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With That Being Said

28 Episodes

46 minutes | Jan 28, 2020
It's Always You... Even When It's Them
In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica share about the importance of setting AND communicating your boundaries with others. No relationship is without boundaries, so Esther and Erica discuss how you can communicate your boundaries even when it's difficult, and why they believe boundaries are actually necessary to form meaningful connections.  If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's at 12 PM EST. You can find E+E on both Esther and Erica's Instagrams (linked below). Esther's Instagram: @estherbmft Erica's Instagram: @rosewatertherapy Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word's Instagram: @therapyisnotadirtyword If you have ideas for future episodes, or comments on the show, feel free to reach out to Esther and/or Erica on Instagram or at podcast@therapyisnotadirtyword.com. Thanks for listening!
36 minutes | Jan 14, 2020
Episode with James Bland
In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica talk with special guest James Bland! James is a content creator, film maker, actor, writer, producer, and director. He is the creator, show runner and star of the award winning digital drama, Giants. Esther, Erica and James discuss the stigma around mental health, especially in communities of color, and how James is using his platform in Hollywood to help end it. They also discuss the truth about what mental illness looks like, the importance of being real, and (of course!) Esther and Erica ask James about his experience at the Emmy's! You can find James on Instagram and Twitter: @jrbland You can watch Giants on Issa Rae's Youtube Channel here, or on Cleo TV. You can find Giants on Instagram and Twitter: @giantstheseries Or visit Giant's website here.  If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's at 12 PM EST. You can find E+E on both Esther and Erica's Instagrams (linked below). Esther's Instagram: @estherbmft Erica's Instagram: @rosewatertherapy Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word's Instagram: @therapyisnotadirtyword Links mentioned in the episode: Therapy is Not a Dirty Word Happy Hour Events
66 minutes | Dec 17, 2019
How Long is this Gonna Take?!
In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss how to set realistic expectations for therapy and answer the frequently asked question from clients - "How long is this going to take?" (spoiler: you probably won't like the answer). Esther and Erica also share how things like doing the work between sessions, consistency, and being honest with your therapist can really help move the process along! If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's at 12 PM EST. You can find E+E on both Esther and Erica's Instagrams (linked below). Esther's Instagram: @estherbmft Erica's Instagram: @rosewatertherapy Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word's Instagram: @therapyisnotadirtyword Links mentioned in the episode: Esther's Book: How's Your Heart  
57 minutes | Dec 3, 2019
Technology Won't Save You
On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss the times when technology is actually getting in the way of our relationships with others. Don't worry, this isn't like a lecture from your mom about how your cellphone is going to kill you. Esther and Erica take the stance that in general technology can assist relationships, but the problem is when technology is used to avoid all awkward and uncomfortable conversations. With more and more people struggling with feeling lonely, the answer (shockingly) may actually be more human interaction - even when the conversations are uncomfortable. Listen and laugh as Esther and Erica share their thoughts on some of the new technology that is impeding social skills.  If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's at 12 PM EST. You can find E+E on both Esther and Erica's Instagrams (linked below). Esther's Instagram: @estherbmft Erica's Instagram: @rosewatertherapy Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word's Instagram: @therapyisnotadirtyword Links mentioned in the episode:  Sidewalk Talk LoveSync (the sex button) Kickstarter Uber Quiet Mode The Atlantic - Why Are Young People Are Having So Little Sex?
57 minutes | Nov 5, 2019
Unpopular Opinion About Forgiveness
On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica share their "unpopular" opinion about forgiveness. They dive into the complexities of forgiveness, from the strict dictionary definition definition, to why there seems to be so much value placed on forgiveness. Esther and Erica make the case that forgiveness is a process, and not a destination and sometimes it's choosing between what takes more energy: to hate or to forgive. If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's at 12 PM EST. You can find E+E on both Esther and Erica's Instagrams (linked below). Esther's Instagram: @estherbmft Erica's Instagram: @rosewatertherapy Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word's Instagram: @therapyisnotadirtyword
54 minutes | Apr 30, 2019
Don't Be Listening To Your Lil Instagram Friend
On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss all the internet advice you're reading and need to stop. They'll share examples of: - bad advice they've seen online, and what makes it bad - advice that isn't bad, but isn't good for you And will share tips on how you can evaluate what advice is helpful to you and what advice is not.  Upcoming Events Mentioned: - Viva Vienna (May 25-27th, 2019): more information about the event available at http://vivavienna.org/default.aspx  - Therapy Is Not a Dirty Word Q&A Happy Hour (May 31, 2019): more information and tickets available at  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/therapy-is-not-a-dirty-word-q-a-happy-hour-washington-dc-tickets-51824773292 
55 minutes | Apr 16, 2019
Let's Talk About Sex with Pam Costa
On this episode of "With That Being Said" we chat with sex and relationship coach Pam Costa.  We'll discuss a range of topics related to sex, including the importance of having a community you can talk candidly with about sex (especially for women!), what you can expect in sex therapy, and about open and poly-amorous relationships.   Pam's Website:  www.downtothere.com  Circles: www.downtothere.com/circles   Pam's  TEDx Talk: "Reclaiming Female Sexual Desire"
40 minutes | Apr 2, 2019
Self Care with Jerico Mandybur
On this episode of "With That Being Said" we chat with writer and self-care advocate Jerico Mandybur about how to manage your self-care and reclaim what brings you joy. We also discuss the role of social media in our lives, self-exploration and Tarot.  Jerico's Tarot Book and Deck available NOW -  Neo Tarot: A Fresh Approach to Self-Care, Healing & Empowerment Jerico's Website:  jericomandybur.com  Jerico's Instagram: @jerico.mandybur
64 minutes | Mar 19, 2019
Bad Parents
On this episode of "With That Being Said" Esther and Erica discuss two tragic cases of 'what were the parents thinking?' and discuss why it's not helpful -- and even dangerous -- to view people as wholly bad or good.  *Warning: this episode contains an audio clip about sexual assault that some listeners may find triggering.  Twitter Video:  pic.twitter.com/tQcA4Ogk91  Abducted in Plain Sight: https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864 
73 minutes | Mar 5, 2019
Our Fave TV Couples
 In this episode Esther and Erica share their 3 favorite TV couples - who they think have the ingredients for a successful marriage (with some debate of course). *Spoiler Alert: the shows are linked below so don't click the link if you don't want to know the picks yet!* --The 'Good Enough' Couple --The 'Has The Potential To Go The Distance' Couple --The 'All Time Favorite' Couple
30 minutes | Feb 19, 2019
Getting to know Erica
 As we settle into our second season of the podcast, Esther and Erica finally decide it's time you get to know more about them! Tune in to find out what makes Erica Turner, LMFT really tick.  Here are Erica's most influential books:  The History of Love, Nicole Krauss - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393328627/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_cIlACb4TJ31FH The Unbearable Lightness of Being, Milan Kundera - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0061148520/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_KDlACb8BVSAH6  Becoming Attached, Robert Karen - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0195115015/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_FJlACbD6TRQPE Middlemarch, George Eliot - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1853262374/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_OLlACbB96CYRC
21 minutes | Feb 12, 2019
Who is Esther, really?
As we settle into our second season of the podcast, Esther and Erica finally decide it's time you get to know more about them! Tune in to find out what makes Esther Boykin, LMFT really tick. Here are Esther's 5 most influential books: Slaughter House 5, Kurt Vonnegut - https://amzn.to/2DiJmb2 Temple of My Familiar, Alice Walker - https://amzn.to/2SGLPR2 Their Eyes Were Watching God, Zora Neal Hurston - https://amzn.to/2yMF9IT The Gift of Therapy, Irvin Yalom - https://amzn.to/2QbY9qU The 8 Habits of Love, Ed Bacon - https://amzn.to/2QbY9qU
36 minutes | Oct 31, 2018
I'll Never Retreat
In today's episode Esther and Erica discuss the pros and cons of going on a retreat. Erica makes the case that it's a lot like taking your work on vacation with you and Esther sets out to convince her otherwise... Want to read about the couple who run away from their marriage retreat? Here's the link - https://www.salon.com/2010/05/13/escape_from_marriage_retreat_hell/ And if you haven't watched Couples Retreat, check it out here https://amzn.to/2DcylYD so you can accurately judge Esther's movie tastes once and for all! ;-)
71 minutes | Dec 29, 2017
Jay-Z Is Making Therapist Porn
Nearly every therapist fantasizes about creating a space where men are comfortable to openly discuss their feelings and  relationships. And this fall JAy-Z made all our dreams come true! Tune in to hearEsther and Erica  swoon over the 4:44 video as the men tackle topics like love, infidelity, masculinity, and role modelswith vulnerability, honesty, and insight that would make any therapist proud.
98 minutes | Aug 25, 2017
#9 Adulting is Hard
Today we are joined by 4 smart, funny, and brutally honest college students for a frank discussion on what it means to really become an adult in the modern age.    Show Notes   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Read Esther's pick-  Fascinate: Your 7 Triggers to Persuasion and Captivation by Sally Hogshead Want to get a free report on your 7 triggers?  Visit www.howtofascinate.com and use promo code JOY-EstherB Read Erica's pick-  Modern Romance by Aziz Ansari and Eric Klinenberg   THERAPIST PROBLEMS: Don't forget to go send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS Tag us and use the hashtag #WithThatBeingSaid  Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook  Erica: Twitter | Facebook |Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!}   With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!
50 minutes | Aug 25, 2017
#10 It Takes a Village with Sequoia Blodgett
Today we are joined by entrepreneur Sequoia Blodgett, star of ABC Family's StartUp U and founder of 7AM Life. Check out episodes of StartUp U online be sure to visit www.7am.life.  You can also follow Sequoia on Twitter and Instagram. Show Notes   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Read Erica's pick-  Ghettoized by Jill Leovy   THERAPIST PROBLEMS: Interested in the article Esther mentioned about swearing?  Here it is... 5 Reasons I Don’t Give An Eff About Swearing In Front Of My Kids by Kate Levkoff (@nursingcursing) Don't forget to go send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS Tag us and use the hashtag #WithThatBeingSaid  Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook  Erica: Twitter | Facebook |Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!}   With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!
71 minutes | Aug 18, 2017
#11 Your Therapist is Anxious with Jodi Aman
  Today we are joined by Jodi Aman, therapist and author of You 1, Anxiety 0: win your freedom back from fear and panic. Don't forget to follow her on Twitter and Instagram for more tips and encouragement to embrace what you feel on your journey to emotional freedom.   Show Notes   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Watch Esther's pick- {can't see the Sidewalk Talk video? click here.}   Watch Erica's pick - {can't see the empathy video? Click Here}   THERAPIST PROBLEMS: We want to hear your thoughts! Leave your feedback on this week's therapist problems in the comments. Don't forget to go send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS Tag us and use the hashtag #WithThatBeingSaid  Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook  Erica: Twitter | Facebook |Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!}   With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!
76 minutes | Aug 11, 2017
#12 Get Your Life with Mo Seetubtim
Today we are joined by Mo Seetubtim, founder of the blog Brandmentalist and creator of The Happiness Planner. Mo's passion for living with intention and passion is inspiring and the complex relationship with her parents bring a refreshing perspective to what could've been just another pretty blog.  Don't miss her beautiful and thoughtful messages- follow her on Twitter and Instagram. Show Notes   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Listen to Erica's pick-  Reply All podcast - Episode #64: On the Inside   THERAPIST PROBLEMS: In this episode we talk about the complexities of ending therapy.  Do you have a story about terminating therapy?  Who decided it was time to take a break? Was it a permanent thing or did you go back again later?  We want to hear your thoughts! Don't forget to go send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS Tag us and use the hashtag #WithThatBeingSaid  Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook  Erica: Twitter | Facebook |Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!}   With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!
58 minutes | Aug 4, 2017
#13 Alone in the Burbs with Traci Ruble
  Today we are joined by Traci Ruble of Psyched in San Francisco and the founder/director of Sidewalk Talk. Traci is one of those rare people who I (Esther) immediately clicked with on seemingly every level- basically she rocks.  Tune in as Erica gently pulls us out of our mutual suburban angst with some spot on insights on life in the city.  We will also talk about the joys of listening - on the street and in our offices! Be sure you follow her on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Show Notes   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Read Erica's picks-  What's Not Yours is Not Yours by Helen Oyeyemi   THERAPIST PROBLEMS: We want to hear your thoughts! Don't forget to send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS Tag us and use the hashtag #WithThatBeingSaid  Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook  Erica: Twitter | Facebook |Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!}   With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!
64 minutes | Jul 21, 2017
#8 Black People Really Do Go To Therapy with Minaa B
Today we are joined by Minaa B. of RespectYourStruggle.com.  Minaa is a on a mission and the first day of Black History month is the perfect time for us to share it.  As therapists, black women, and human beings in general we admire her courage in sharing her personal struggle and love how she has used it to give voice to so many others.  Tune in now as we talk about how #TherapyIsNotADirtyWord and why talking about our struggle is the first step to overcoming it. LISTEN NOW   SHOW NOTES Be sure to visit RespectYourStruggle.com to see fresh new site and pick up your super cute RSY tee today!.  You can also find Minaa on Twitter and Instagram.   RLW {Read Listen Watch}: This American Life was Erica's RLW for today and while the entire podcast is wonderful we are particularly sharing episode #567.  A powerful, disturbing, and incredibly insightful glimpse at what it's like inside of an abusive relationship.  The statistics related to abusive relationships, including among teens, is frightening but as we discussed with Minaa, the first step to making changes is understanding what the real struggle is. And as a special bonus... I also have a RLW today!  The Pocket Therapist by Therese Borchard is one of my favorite books to give and read.  Every chapter is short but packed with the best of the best advice she's gotten from varied experiences in therapy.  Perfect when you are having a rough day, whether you're in therapy or not. THERAPIST PROBLEMS: Today we talked about our real and perceived duty to be ambassadors for therapists everywhere.  One of the biggest obstacles for many people who are hesitant to try therapy is the misconceptions of who and what therapists are like. Listen in as we discuss how we work to find balance between being a non-judgmental listening ear and maintaining good boundaries. Don't forget to go send us your questions and suggestions for THERAPIST PROBLEMS #WithThatBeingSaid Esther: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Erica: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram {<--look.. Erica's on Instagram now!!!} With That Being Said, don't forget to 
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