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What Then Must We Do?

79 Episodes

57 minutes | Jun 17, 2022
My Mutual-Aid Vision for the Future, and Fighting Back Against Medical Tyranny - with Susan May
I was interviewed by Susan May, the founder of “RiseUP with Susan May” and the RiseUP community, and creator of the Facebook group “Gather and Get Moving with Susan May”, a "...safe place for medical freedom advocates to connect and be inspired to action."Susan and I talk a little about my own history, and about my experience fighting medical tyranny while in the hospital with our daughter. We also talk about my vision for a Mutual-Aid society and community dedicated to caring for those with special needs. My Freogan Fellowship website is here.
48 minutes | Apr 20, 2022
Can Liberty Dollar Save the World?
I speak with Wayne and Kathy Hicks of Liberty Dollar Financial Association, about Liberty Dollar's history, and its rebirth as a Private Membership Association.If you're looking for solutions to state-controlled money and financial systems, and if you're not entirely sure that Bitcoin (or any cryptocurrency) is the answer, then you need to listen to this episode. Liberty Dollar's new incarnation is truly revolutionary - and it doesn't stop at money and finance.We talk about food security, the Liberty Dollar social network platform, and how the "outside-the-box" nature of LDFA can help to reclaim the economy from the world of crony corporatism. You can find Liberty Dollar Financial Association here. (This is my affiliate link, so if you sign up using this link, I will get a little something.)And LibertyNet, the social-network platform, is here.
89 minutes | Mar 10, 2022
Not Crypto, Not Barter - Could XClave Bux Be the Alternative Currency We Need?
I spoke with Markus Allen, founder of XClave, a few months back, about his radical concept for creating independent private towns, including plans for an independent currency. At the time, I fully intended to post the episode in a timely manner. Then our family decided to move out of California, and the next few months were a frantic blur.Now, nearly 5 months later, this particular episode is more relevant than ever. With governments seizing the bank accounts of those who oppose their actions, and inflation starting to get very very real, we are in need of practical solutions to the problem of state inolvement in money and in financial systems. Could XClave Bux be the answer? Listen to this episode and see what you think.Check out XClave here....and XClave Bux here.
45 minutes | Dec 29, 2021
Can Poetry Save the World? I ask Joyce Beckett, professor of literature for Freogan Fellowship
Joyce Beckett is an Oxford-educated professor of literature who will be teaching a class in English and Irish literature for Freogan Fellowship Learing - the education arm of the private membership association that I recently started.Here, Joyce speaks about the experience of poetry as a bulwark against the cultural and spiritual "colonization" that is the effect of mass media and culture. Most of Freogan Fellowship Learning's classes are designed for teens - however this one is also open to adults. As Joyce says:"Anyone, at any stage of their lives, with an interest in the profound effectof words on the senses will be most welcome."Joyce will also be offering a free sample class on Tuesday, January 4th at 5:00pm Pacific Time. To sign up for that class, or for more information about her full-semester class, visit Freogan Fellowship Learning.
8 minutes | Dec 26, 2021
Christmas in the Darkness / The Rules of Christmas
I've recently started posting on Substack. (You can see my stuff here.) A lot of what I'm posting are articles and blog posts that I wrote many years ago, but that are still (sadly, in many cases) very relevant today.This is one of them. I wrote it at Christmastime five years ago, and it is even more true in today's world. Following my piece is my husband, reading the timeless "Rules of Christmas."Enjoy. And Merry Christmas.
54 minutes | Nov 30, 2021
The PMA Revolution, with the Renegade Nation's Mike Colomb
Mike Colomb and his wife Vanessa have been building their own Private Membership Associations, and are now working to help others build theirs. From sustainable food production to education and healthcare, the Colombs are helping to rebuild the crumbling edifices of state-dominated systems. I talk with Mike about what PMAs are, why they are not subject to statutory law, and how they work.Learn more about Private Membership Associations, and about working with the Colombs, here. Mike and Vanessa's PMA, the Renegade Ranch, is here.And their new venture, The Renegade Nation, is coming soon!
77 minutes | Nov 27, 2021
Constitutional Sheriff David Hathaway
I speak with Sheriff David Hathaway, of Santa Cruz County, Arizona, about accountability in government (or the lack thereof), immigration (his views may not be what you expect), and the power of the sheriff. Learn more about Sheriff Hathaway here.
66 minutes | Oct 30, 2021
In Case You're Not Scared Enough...
UPDATE: A seismologist has replied on my Twitter thread about this episode, and you can see her comments here.  (As I mention in the episode, I had written to four different seismologists before speaking with Brent, asking for their take on what he has to say, but had not received a response from any of them.) I'm guessing there will be some back and forth here for a few days at least, and I'll post my thoughts after that has run its course. --------You may have seen "Canadian Earthquake Researcher" on Twitter, posting about the unusual tectonic "blocking" he is seeing, and what he thinks it means: A massive seismic disruption that will shake the entire world in a way humans have never seen before.But he's just a guy on Twitter, right? He's not even a seismologist, right?Right. But he also has a string of eerily accurate predications spanning the past couple of years.Join me as I speak with Brent Dmitruk, AKA Canadian Earthquake Researcher. You can also find his videos on YouTube, here.Brent's website is here, and you can see his list of predictions here.The USGS earthquake monitoring site is here, EMSC is here, and Tertremo is here.And here is the article about the Japanese research that Brent mentions."Dutchsinse", who he mentions in the interview, is on Twitter here.
118 minutes | Oct 3, 2021
How to arm your teen against the Brave New World? I talk with Ernie Hancock about Freogan Fellowship Learning
I was on "Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" last week, talking about my new venture: The Freogan Fellowship Ministry. (It's the first interview here, although you might want to stay on for the second one  with Dave Ridley, about the New Hampshire secession bill!)We talk about the mission of Freogan Fellowship (rebuilding the foundations of civilization for free men and women), the origins of the word "Freogan", and our first project: Freogan Fellowship Learning, and the classes for teens that we'll be offering later this month:"Propaganda and the Personal" - This course will explore propaganda, politics, and the personal, with a focus on the 20th Century up to the present moment. We will examine some of the key players, the ideologies, and the techniques that have led us to the current crisis, as well as what our part in it has been and could be.  "Our Common-Law Foundations" - This course will utilize the Socratic method to explore the roots of the modern western legal system. We will be using outside sources, and students should expect lots of real-time conversation. There will be some reading to be done outside of class, as well as some thinking.  Beginning in the spring, we will also offer courses in literature, history, and economics.Parents can get more details, and sign up for classes here....sign up before October 10th to get the Early Bird rate!
60 minutes | Sep 14, 2021
Jeff Tucker on the launch of the Brownstone Institute - and the racist history of infectious-disease fearmongering
In this episode, I speak with long-time liberty hero and entrepreneur Jeff Tucker, about his launching of the Brownstone Institute in response to the worldwide authoritarian response to Covid-19, and why the Institute's efforts are so needed now.We also talk about one of the primary - but little talked about - driving forces behind racial segregation and the eugenics movement: Fear of infectious disease, and the belief that those of "inferior" races were more likely to be disease vectors than were those of "superior" genetic makeup. You can read Jeff's piece on that here....and his book on the lockdowns is here.The book we discuss in this episode is "The Great Covid Panic: What Happened, Why, and What To Do Next", and can be found here.Sunetra Gupta's book is here.I mentioned FreedomCells - you can learn more about them here.You can visit - and support - the Brownstone Institute, here.
70 minutes | Sep 8, 2021
Jeremy Hammond's "The War on Informed Consent: The Persecution of Dr. Paul Thomas by the Oregon Medical Board"
Only days after publishing a study comparing long-term health outcomes of vaccinated children to those of unvaccinated children, Dr. Paul Thomas had his medical license suspended by the Oregon Medical Board.  Jeremy Hammond's latest book tells Dr. Thomas' story, but is really about much more: Hammond builds the context within which the persecution of Dr. Thomas arose, and in doing so, tells the story of today's health freedom movement. Anyone who wonders where that movement sprung from, or why thousands of parents around the world are so passionate in defending their right to choose what medical treatments their children are given, should start with this book.Jeremy's book, "The War on Informed Consent: The Persecution of Dr. Paul Thomas by the Oregon Medical Board", can be found here.You can find Jeremy's writing, and support his work, here.And my interview with Dr. Thomas from last December is here.
52 minutes | Sep 1, 2021
Revolutionizing Healthcare - with Dr. Keith Smith
Dr. Keith Smith, of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma,  is one of the heroes of the free-market healthcare reform movement. In this episode, we talk about what's really behind the dysfunction of this industry - and what can be done about it.See ReasonTV's 2012 piece on the Surgery Center of Oklahoma.The site Dr. Smith mentions for finding direct primary care providers is DPCFrontier.comAnd this is the site for the Free Market Medical Association.
62 minutes | Jul 22, 2021
Kevin McKernan on the Dr. David Martin video and how patent law really impacts research
By now you've probably seen the video where Reiner Fuellmich speaks with Dr. David Martin about his examination of patent records, which he says show that there is nothing "novel" about SARS-Cov-2, and that the genetic components that purportedly make it "novel" were in fact patented many years ago.Kevin McKernan, CSO of Medicinal Genomics, knows quite a lot about genetic science and  he also knows a thing or two about patent law -  in particular the patent law around genetic research. So today, I asked him for his take on what Dr. Martin said in that video, and in his accompanying dossier.In this episode, we hit some of the major points from Dr. Martin's presentation, and Kevin points out a few places where he thinks Dr. Martin gets it wrong. There's a lot more to dig into here though, and Kevin suggests a future conversation with himself and Dr. Martin - I'll keep everyone posted about that.We also talk about the legitimacy of patent law, and intellectual property itself, and about whether patent protection helps medical research to flourish, or serves to stifle it. The transcript of the video with Dr. Martin can be found here.Kevin's Twitter thread on some of the issues we discussed can be found here. And you can follow Kevin on Twitter here.
56 minutes | Jul 11, 2021
Remember when Dr. Colleen Huber was kicked off of Twitter?
No, you probably don't. And that's part of what is so insidious about this information purge: So much of it happens without anyone even noticing.Dr. Huber had been posting information about things like mask harm, the damage done by lockdowns, and evidence for effective treatments for Covid-19 - including some of her own research. In 2021, all of this is heresy. And so, back in April, she was "permanently suspended" from Twitter.We talk about her suspension, and about some of the information that got her suspended. A note: I apologize for the choppiness of the audio in some spots. We had some connection problems, and while I've edited out the worst ones, there are still some brief choppy spots. You can find Dr. Huber's research and writing on masks, lockdowns, and related topics, here. And you  can find Dr. Huber's books on Amazon. Her book "The Defeat of COVID: 500+ medical studies show what works & what doesn't" is here.      
62 minutes | May 15, 2021
Externalities: Is Carrying Germs an Act of Aggression? With Don Boudreaux
Don Boudreaux is the perfect person to address the "you don't have a right to infect others" argument. Don is a professor of economics (among many other accomplishments), and he also has a law degree. So he has quite a lot to say about the nature of "externalities", both from an economic perspective and one grounded in law, and in common-law principles in particular.We also address the question of whether the perpetrators of the devastating lockdowns and other restrictions should be held accountable for the harm they have done via something similar to the Nuremberg trials.And in the end, I think I even manage to cheer him up a little regarding humanity's prospects for the future. Don writes about externalities here....and you can find more of his writings here, or on Cafe Hayek where he blogs regularly.Some of the LA fireworks videos we talk about are posted here.
75 minutes | Apr 27, 2021
What Roger Koops Learned When he Audited the CDC
As director of quality assurance, Roger Koops interacted closely with the FDA for many years. I speak with him in this episode about his experiences, the nature of that agency and about how the regulatory landscape has expanded and become more burdensome over time. He also tells about the time he was tasked with auditing the CDC, what that experience taught him, and what – if anything – that agency is good for.We also discuss the problem of professional myopia in the world of science, and the implications that has for the rest of us.Roger Koops is a contributing author for AIER, and is also a retired scientist, with a PhD in chemistry and over 25 years in the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries. He has authored or co-authored several papers on pharmaceutical technology and chemistry.I spoke with Roger last month about why he doesn't plan to get the Covid-19 vaccine.
77 minutes | Apr 20, 2021
What Gene Epstein would tell Jordan Peterson about Austrian Economics
Recently, Jordan Peterson asked who he should have as a guest on his show to talk about Austrian economics, and Gene Epstein's name came up. In this episode, I ask Gene what he would say to Dr. Peterson, or to anyone looking to understand what Austrian economics is all about, what sets it apart from other schools, and why its insights are so important right now.Gene is the former Barrons economics and books editor, and now hosts the Soho Forum. I spoke with him last month about where he thinks the economy is headed and what individuals can do to protect themselves, here.The Soho Forum can be found here.And if you'd like to learn more about Austrian economics, there is no better place to start than the Mises Institute. I spoke with Mises Institute President, Jeff Deist last December, about whether it might be time for America to break up. 
63 minutes | Apr 13, 2021
The Tenth Amendment Center's Michael Boldin: How do we do this?
I start off asking Michael Boldin, of the Tenth Amendment Center, how we can use the principle of nullification to put an end to the lockdown insanity and create free societies... and we end up talking about everything from the legal foundations of nullification, how crappy most sheriffs are on constitutional rights, Freedom Cells, Vermin Supreme, and how very very important mutual aid is.I even tell the story of my grandmother's experience with her amazing care home, provided by her mutual-aid society, and how the state has worked to shut these down across the country.Michael works tirelessly for the Tenth Amendment Center.The book I mentioned is "From Mutual Aid to the Welfare State", and you can find it here.This Cato publication has some good stuff on mutual aid too, including an essay on the book above.The Fully Informed Jury Association is here.The Institute for Justice is here.You can learn more about Freedom Cells here and here.Read about the battle of Tinhorn Flats here.And of course the Vermin Supreme Institute can be found here.
58 minutes | Apr 11, 2021
Todd Seavey on Secession and Open Borders
In which long-time libertarian writer and friend Todd Seavey does his best to offend those on both left and right on two hot-button issues that might actually unite people if only they would think about them in the right way - and predicts that the real revolution will be driven by picnics. We also end up spending a lot of time grumbling about how old we've suddenly gotten. I spoke with Todd last August, about immigration restrictions. You can see that episode here.Todd's article "Secession and Open Borders: Why not both?" is here.His book, "Libertarianism for Beginners" is here. And you can find Todd on Twitter. 
85 minutes | Mar 30, 2021
Unbreaking Science with Dr. James Lyons Weiler
How broken are the systems that evaluate scientific research, and what can be done to fix them? I talk with Dr. James Lyons Weiler about these questions, and about his own contributions to independent research - including his analysis of VAERS data for deaths and anaphylaxis following vaccination for Covid-19, and his participation in the international Nucleaic Acid Amplification Testing Evaluation Consortium (NAATEC), which will evaluate the efficacy of PCR testing for Covid-19.Dr. Weiler's website is here.His Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge is here, and you can read about the NAATEC project here.You can support Dr. Weiler's work here, or here.
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