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27 minutes | Jul 27, 2021
S2E11: How I Came To Love Distance Running Ft. Liz Newcomer
We get to talk to Liz Newcomer, the podcaster behind Resiliency in Running. In this episode, she shared: - Her mental health and fitness struggles when she was in high school and how she overcame it - How she came to love distance running - Her tips for runners - Her journey and challenges towards the London Marathon Follow Liz: Instagram: @resiliencyinrunning Website: www.resiliencyinrunning.com Tiktok: @resiliencyinrunning Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6CVL2QD This episode is recorded via Riverside.FM. Click on this link, and get 25% discount for 3 months when you sign up. 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Another shout out once again to our patrons, zesty Gem Zhang, who is an avid listener of the show. Thanks so much, Gem, for listening and supporting me in the show. I'm truly, truly grateful !And Zesties, before we dive right in, please, don't forget to rate and subscribe to the show wherever you listen to your podcasts. I'm mostly active on Instagram. That's @gleefultalkshow, but you can also follow me on Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. If you want to buy me a cup of coffee or two, or are you simply enjoy and would like to support the show, please head down to the episode .Notes to find out how. I've also put a Zestie survey on the episode notes so that I'll get to know you guys better and provide better content in the future. I'll choose one zesty who have filled out the survey to give one month subscription of Blinkist. Make sure to key in your email address on the survey. Blinkist offers key insights from top nonfiction books in a made for mobile format. Learn anytime anywhere. This episode is recorded via Riverside.fm it's by far the best remote podcasting platform I've ever used. My guests and myself included are very impressed with the Riverside recording platform. They keep coming up with awesome features. So don't miss out. If you click on the affiliate link on the episode notes, you will get 25% discount on your first three months of subscription. Just enter the coupon code Mediaboard25 upon checkout. In this episode, we will learn about developing resilience through running and the journey towards the 2020 London marathon our guest. She is someone who shares a positive influence to millennials through her social media and podcasts. Resiliency in running. Please welcome Liz Newcomer. Hi Liz. Welcome to the show. Liz: hi. Thank you for having me glee. Glee: Thank you. And you love running as evidence with your, activities. I'm curious that when did you develop your love for running? Liz: so I've running for probably close to my whole life almost. But I've mostly kind of started through playing sports, growing up. My parents just put me through loads of different sports and I stuck with soccer for quite some time, about 10 years. And I didn't really develop my love for running. I'd say until. Maybe college time. And then I further developed the love for like distance running at the beginning, kind of like right at the end of 2019, beginning of 2020. And that's just kind of progressed ever since Glee: Oh, So you were like a sports person before really doing this distance running. when we talked about earlier you mentioned in your also your IG stories that you've suffered anorexia. Suicidal thoughts and depression. When you were in your teens, if you don't mind sharing your journey and how you got out of it. Liz: Yeah, of course. I think it's definitely hard to put into words. But I think it was a very hard time in my life. And a lot of it was kind of influenced by mean girls. I was bullied and cyber bullied in middle school. So around the time that I was around 13 or 14 and that kind of just carried into. Poor body image and just really influenced how I viewed myself. And that's kind of where I started spiraling into the eating disorder with anorexia and just not being very healthy and my eating tactics. And over-exercising had really bad mental health and just really struggled with depression and anxiety and at some points some really, really low points. I was dealing with suicidal thoughts as well. And so I think it was definitely a hard time in my life and something that really I'd say two things really helped me. So one was definitely therapy. And I think that that was it. was like a therapist that I saw for about two or three years, but she really, really helped me through a lot of stuff. But also my faith. And I, consider myself a Christian and I think just, that was kind of a time as well, where I kind of like came into Christianity and really felt like I was less alone than I was. And so just really praying and I'm kind of having that as well, to motivate me and kind of helped me view myself in a more healthy perspective and then a more positive way really helped. But yeah, I'd say therapy and faith really helps me. Glee: Oh, so this happened when you were doing soccer and all the sports, was it. During that time Liz: Yeah, I was, I was kind of in high school when everything kind of started going downhill and I was playing on the varsity volleyball team as a sophomore in high school. And I was also playing on the soccer team on the junior varsity team. And so I had a lot of good things going for me. Sports wise, but I was just really struggling mentally. And so once the doctor basically diagnosed me as anorexic. I wasn't allowed to play sports or exercise for six months. And so I had to stop all sports, stop all running which was really hard being such an active kid growing up. And so I kind of play soccer now. Very casually and like recreational leagues, but I was quite serious about it growing up and then kind of had to like give it up and had a really hard time trying to get back into it. But yeah, Glee: that would have been really tough because, if you liked it very much, like you were very active and then also struggling with the bullying side, like it's, I imagine it's really, really tough. And when did you decide that you need therapy? Like, was it someone told you or how was the journey. Liz: I think it was more so that someone told me it was in conjunction with a lot of other things. So I was,as soon as I was diagnosed as anorexic, I was seeing a doctor like almost once a week, I was seeing a dietician. So like a nutritionist. And then I was seeing a therapist at one point I tried group therapy and I really didn't like it and it wasn't for me. And so I stuck with seeing my therapist one-on-one and I feel like it was like all these things that were being thrown at me because everyone just wanted me to get better because I had lost quite a bit of weight. At that point Glee: Oh was just trying to do the timeline, so, but then after two or three years, receiving therapy, then in college days you where like you thought that, okay you're better and you have that positive body image. Liz: Yeah. Yeah. I had joined a sorority and it was a group of really great girls and very real genuine girls, I'd say. I think there's a very stereotypical idea that people have of sororities and that just wasn't the sorority that I was a part of. And I think that these women really helped me come out of that. Shell, but I'd put myself in and they really helped me, you know, want to be more vocal about my story. And I think it was within my first or second year of college. I had gone home during Christmas time and I recorded a YouTube video, kind of talking about my recovery and kind of sharing more about all of those struggles. And it was really well received. And a lot of the girls in my sorority really supported me. My last year of college, I ended up kind of doing like, there's this really special? Like It's called preference ceremony. And it's like during your recruitment process, when you're trying to recruit new girls, but it's one of the last days, And I was one of the two senior girls that spoke to lots of different audiences of women that we had gotten throughout the day about my story, struggling with an eating disorder. And so I think, yeah, In college, I definitely developed more of a healthier mindset and definitely went into a much better like recovery and then was able to kind of start my more healthy relationship with running again because it wasn't healthy for so long Glee: And if you would have to tell your younger self, What would you tell her? Liz: Yeah, I was actually doing another podcast interview and they asked like the same thing the other week. And I think my line was. Skinny doesn't mean healthy. And I think for so long when I was anorexic, I just thought, you know, the more I lost weight, the closer I was getting to, like whatever my weight goal was at the time. And I beat just became very obsessive with numbers, whether it was calories or the number on the scale. And. It was something that I, it was like the only thing that mattered to me. And then even when I hit my goal weight, I was expecting some, like, euphoric, amazing feeling and it still wasn't there. And, People telling me , oh, like you look like you've lost weight. And even then I was like, expecting those comments to fulfill me. And those still didn't. And so it was , I was a mounting, everything and all this, hard work I was doing with not eating and over exercising. And I was like waiting for this moment and it never actually came. And I realized that being skinny doesn't mean. You know, it doesn't bring happiness. And it also definitely doesn't mean that you're healthy because I developed a lot of like underlying health issues with my reproductive system and just. My gut and just like how my body like digest food. I think it took a while to get back to normal again. And so, I think it's really hard for younger girls growing up with the media and seeing all these skinny models and wanting to look just like them. But but yeah, I think it's just, you know, just because someone's skinny doesn't mean that they're healthy and you don't need to be skinny to be healthy. You can be like at your weight and you can be eating healthy. You can be exercising regularly and you can be fulfilled with life and happy with your quality of life and you don't need to amount it to being a certain, you know, Jean size or dress size. So, yeah, I think that's what I would tell my younger self. Glee: great. I could actually relate to a bit of your story because I was also in high school. I was also bullied and everything. And, but, you know, I, I grew up in the Philippines, so it's, it's not really common in our country to be diagnosed with, anorexia for for some reason, you know, We are a third world country, but yeah. When you mentioned about it affected your reproductive health, I could totally relate because when I was like super duper exercising, like I didn't have my period for seven months and the doctor thought I was pregnant. I was like, no, I didn't have anything. But Totally get it. Yeah. so, you're currently training for London marathon, which will be happening in October. I if I researched that, right. Yeah, I've seen a lot of. A lot of your stories on Instagram and tiktok that you did also, this running one mile an hour, which is pretty amazing. And how did you sleep? Liz: I didn't. But I've yeah, I, I, I probably got a collective like hour and a half of sleep, but I've been it's the second, like, kind of crazy challenge, if you will. That I been kind of doing to fundraise. For Boston Children's Hospital, because they're like the charity team that I'm running with. And so I feel like I'm trying to come up with different like fundraising ideas, but I keep ending up doing these like crazy challenges because I had done one in March. That's the David Goggins challenge where you run four miles, every four hours for 48 hours. And then this one was a mile an hour for 24 hours. And so I think I just wanted to challenge myself a bit more and see if I could do it. And I did do it, but just, yeah, I did not sleep and I ha I was drinking lots of coffee for 24 hours. But it was a good experience. what I'm finding with those running challenges and the David Goggins challenge was the first like running challenge that I've done, and. it's really good. Interesting to me every time, how much, like, I feel like I grow mentally because I feel like I go into these challenges saying, there's no way I can do this. This is like a crazy challenge. And then I think when you're like deep in the challenge, you. Experience all of this growth and you experience all of this just like mentally you're thinking about, wow, like I'm actually doing it. And you're kind of going past what you originally perceive to be your limit. And I think that that's the issue with. This can be applied to like anything, not just running. I think that so many of us limit ourselves because you think that that's your, glass ceiling of like how high you can go, but then as soon as you overcome it, and as soon as you go further, I think that that's where you start to experience so much more growth. And then you, stop limiting yourself and you start to, expand yourself and want to reach for higher goals. And Higher achievements. Glee: that one hour for 24 hours. So it was a charity event with Boston children. Oh, okay. And so I'm curious if. Did you have to consult a doctor for that particular endeavor cause you were also training for, long distance training. if that would impact. Liz: no. I mean, I probably should have the only person that I was kind of consoling is I have a colleague from my master's program that was in the military here. I think it was, but he used to be in the military and this was a challenge that he had done. And when I was getting advice from him, for my David Goggins challenge, he was saying, oh, I, I've only done this challenge, but it's very similar and he kind of gave me advice. But it's a lot of it has to do with like, making sure that your early morning runs, you're not raising your Is it your blood pressure too much, because then it's like harder for your body to fall asleep, even though you don't actually get that much sleep. Like, there are some points in the challenge where like, I came home from my run and I just like collapsed on my bed and took a really quick power nap that I need. Because I think my body knows that I have to be up again, but just like making sure that when I'm running later at night, like at the early hours that I'm not running. at m y full a hundred percent that maybe it's running at like 70%, just to kind of make sure that I can go home and like rest and like calm my body down. so. That My heart's not like beating a hundred miles a minute from like running really hard. Glee: So after that challenge,. how did you get back to, you know, your normal day-to-day? Did you take a break or are you planning another set of challenges before the big day? Liz: Yeah. What about a day break? But I probably needed more. I realized that for about a week, my running was kind of like a lot slower and it was because my shin splints were a little bit. They just hurt a little bit more, even though I was foam rolling and stretching and things. So I think my legs were just kind of still recovering, even though I was going through my training plan. But only as of like recently, probably on Thursday it felt like the first good run since before the challenge. And so, yeah, I think it's, it's taken a bit of time to recover. But I'm definitely open to more challenges. And I think that anything that I can do to fundraise I think is so worth it. I'm not this isn't a fundraising event, but like next weekend I might be doing a challenge that is in the UK where you do it's called the three peak challenge, You have a team and you go and hike the three highest points in the UK, and then you run down them to get back in the car and drive to the next one. But yeah, I forget where they all are, but it, that, that would just be for fun, but I think I'm always up for kind of like an adventure or a challenge. Glee: Amazing. Amazing. And so you've done a lot of distance running and I heard about this runner's high, which is like a brief deeply relaxing state of euphoria. I heard it's not common, but I don't know if you have experienced it. And how was the experience? Liz: Yeah. I do experience it here and there. And I definitely experienced it during my trail marathon last year, but not until mile 17 and 18, it was like, from that point on that, like I felt it. And then I was able to like really have a strong finish because it was a really tough trail run. But like I think yesterday, even I, went on like a nine mile run and I think just because I've, my body feels. Like more recovered from the challenge and I feel more myself. And I, I just love running in the rain as well. And it was raining a bit yesterday, but I think it's, for me, it's a lot to do with like, feeling. alive and feeling really good running. And I also have a couple of like running playlist that I listened to. I typically listen to like EDM or like house music. And so for me, like that kind of also helps with like the runner's high as well for me. But it's definitely like, it's some point for me, it's always like somewhere where I'm like in the middle. the run or close to the end of the run where I feel it. And it's never like, at the beginning, sometimes it's at the end when I like get home and I finish and it's like, wow, that was a really great run. Sometimes I'll feel it in the shower, like it's after a run and it's just it kinda comes at really random times, but there's not really like a way for you to like, be like, okay, I really want to get a runner's high today. So I'm going to eat this thing or I'm going to drink this thing. Like, it really just comes and goes for me. Glee: Ah, yes. Yes. Thank you for sharing that. Do you have training strategies When you go for a big big run, or how do you protect your knee actually. I like running, but I couldn't do distance running because my knees so bad now, like really I'm too old, but yeah. what could you advise. Liz: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with your shoes actually. And that's something that I used to not really invest in, but that I do now because obviously your joints are really important and what are, what going to carry you for the rest of your life. But I've gone through a couple of different brands of shoes. And I know that Brooks are specifically really good for supporting your bones and your joints, but I'm currently wearing what are they called? Hoka? They're the Hoka carbon X twos. And they're, they're really good because they have quite like a plush. I don't know, under the shoe, It looks like there's like a bunch of height, but it's really just a lot of support. And it's, the shoe is specifically good for like long distance and like races. And so that suits me really well. And it's been a really good pair of shoes for me, but I think also it has a lot to do with like, you know, going through and trying different shoes and seeing what works for you, but it is like such a vital part of running and then like making sure that you switch your shoes. Every, I think it's like 300 miles because you don't want to be wearing the same shoes for like years and years, because it will get worn out. I mean, it's not as supportive anymore, but I'd say shoes are really, really important as well as like making sure that you stretch and like foam roll and make sure your muscles are, you know, actively recovering and having like active recovery days as well. Glee: And do you also pair running with going to the gym or anything? Like strengthening exercises? Liz: Yeah. Last year I was, when I was marathon training. Like you have cross training days so days where you just don't run. And last year I did a lot of like Pilates or like high intensity interval training workout. That I really enjoy. And then this year I'm doing swimming and I used to swim when I was younger. And so it's been really great, but I've also heard that swimming really helps with your breathing when you're running. And so I think it's always good to switch up. Like some parts of your training and making sure that you're not staying stagnant, doing like the same thing all the time. But yeah, I think kind of like shocking your body as well, and mixing it up with your workouts really helps with I think your overall strength and endurance Glee: What is your favorite routine when strengthening exercises? what is your favorite exercise to do other than running to pair it Liz: Yeah. I've been loving swimming lately, but last year I really, enjoy there's a girl on YouTube called Sarah's day and I've been following her for as long as I can remember, but she's a really cool girl from Australia, who's like a fitness YouTuber and she has a couple of different ebook workouts. And so I was following those. Kind of like alongside, I think last year it was a 16 week marathon training plan and then she has two eight week ebook plans. And so I kind of just did that alongside my marathon training, but I think anything with. like burpees and like kind of like jump squats and like, so just like kind of getting your body moving, but it's like almost like active cardio, but like cardio, that's not running. So I really enjoyed that last year Glee: And what are your thoughts on barefoot running? I don't know if it's common, but I heard somewhere before way before, they have that shoe, it's kind of like very thin Liz: Yeah, I've seen those. Glee: What are your thoughts on it? Liz: I don't know. I think it's, it probably depends on like what works for you again. And maybe that works for some people, but I think for me, I, I just find that I need a lot of support for my feet and And yeah, I think it just really depends because I had a friend a few years ago that was wearing some, Nike shoe that was, that didn't have as much support and it was quite thin on the bottom. And she ended up developing like Some sort of an issue. I think it? was like Achilles tendonitis or something, but like something where it probably had to do with the shoe and like just not supporting her enough, but yeah. Again to each their own whatever works for people. Glee: Yeah. And so what is your fuel when you do your run days or stuff? Like if you could share, I think you've shared something on your Tiktok, but yeah. Liz: yeah. Well typically before runs I'm not someone who can like go on a run and just not eat. So for me, it has to be like typically it's a banana with like sometimes it's like rice cake and peanut butter. If it's like a shorter run or if it's a longer run, probably like acacao oats or sweet potato. Always just like carbohydrates before runs. And then again, if it's like a longer run, all that, either carry like electrolytes with me, or I have some like energy gel packs that I'll eat during the run. And kind of just like plan out when I'm going to eat them. Yeah, especially as it gets to anything above 14 miles, I definitely take more than one energy gel pack just to make sure that my body is properly fueled because you can really feel when your body's like lacking nutrients and lacking carbohydrates and energy. So just, I think making sure that you're listening to your body and fueling it properly is really important to be successful in your training, in your running. Glee: Thanks for that advice, Liz. And this might be a very obvious question, but what is the mental skill that runners should have, or should acquire. Liz: I think one of the biggest things with running that I think people may struggle with is that. It's such an individual sport and it's not like, you're not playing in a team or anything. So you're really only relying on yourself for motivation to keep going. And so I think the most important thing is being able to. mentally be ready for longer runs and like runs that may be harder for you. But I just remember, like, even during my marathon last year, there were points where, I mean, this was like on a trail, on a mountain in Oregon. So I was just like, there were many points where there was no one around me, but like sometimes I found myself. Talking out loud to myself and just saying like, come on, come on and keep on going. And like, sometimes you have to just like be your own cheerleader. And like, again, that can totally apply to like anything in life and not just running. But I'm really finding that like in life, in general, as you get older, it's harder to make friends and sometimes you find yourself being on your own a lot more. And so You have to be kind to yourself. You have to be your own cheerleader a lot of the times. And you know, just making sure that you're talking nicely to yourself and that you're not bringing yourself down. Glee: Yes. And so other than running and fitness, what are you most passionate about? Other than this running and fitness? Liz: Yeah. I'd say at the moment I am really passionate about my work actually. And that's something that I feel like a lot of people can't say, but like podcasting is and running or not my day job, but I work in like digital health and I work just with really great people on a really great team It allows me the ability to travel throughout the UK sometimes it's just a really good time. And I think that aside from running, as I'm getting older, I'm learning how important it is to work for a company that has a good work culture, good people, culture. And just have people that actually care about you and not only think of you as just like a worker, but as a human being. And I, really feel like I found that at this company that I'm at now, and they're really great. And I think I'm just really passionate about healthcare as well. I did my undergraduate in public health and then my master's in health management and yeah, just really passionate about healthcare and like patient advocacy and patient centered care. Glee: Great. And some fun questions what is the most repeated song in your current playlist? Liz: Oh, gosh, the most repeated song. I have no idea at the moment. But I can tell you that my like top song on Spotify for 2020, that was like the most played song then was Lose Somebody I think by One Republic. Glee: Lose somebody. I love one Republic, but I think in my head it's like a different song, but yeah. Great. So if you had to teleport to a place right now, what would it be and why? Liz: if I could teleport right now, I would want to teleportprobably to Beijing because my. Grandma lives in a nursing home there on my mom's side and I haven't seen her in years and I've been trying to get over there and then COVID just made it even harder. But I, do call her on Weechat most Sundays and we chat and it gives me a great chance to practice my Mandarin. But yeah, I, I can't wait to go back someday soon and just kind of spend a lot of time in China and. Glee: Oh, great. Great. Thank you so much, Liz for your time and giving your insights here at gleeful talk show, and please invite our Zesties, where they can find you Liz: Yeah. So the podcast is called Resiliency in Running. And you can find it on most, if not all listening platforms. I come out with episodes every Sunday at the moment. And yeah, I'm currently doing a series Glee said around The London marathon and training for the London marathon, but the podcast Instagram is at resiliency in running. And then I'm also doing daily running flogs, which is something I never thought I'd do on Tiktok. And then my account. There is also just at resiliency in running. But yeah, those are kind of all the different social medias, I think. Glee: Thank you Liz, for being on the show. Liz: Thank you so much for having me.
33 minutes | Jul 20, 2021
S2E10: How Do We Awaken Our Soulful Power? Feat. Christian de la Huerta
Award-winning author, personal transformation coach and acclaimed TEDx speaker, Christian de la Huerta shares his insights on how we awaken our soulful power and unleash our inner hero on his book entitled Awakening the Soul of Power: How to Live Heroically and Set Yourself Free (Calling All Heroes), now available on Amazon or on your local bookstore. We talked about his beginnings, being an introvert, living in a communist country, to becoming who he is today. He shared his insights: - What does soulful power mean. - What are the power struggles and how do we get out of these instances - How do we stop cheating ourselves and selling out our personal power - What does heroism mean in this day and age - What inspires him, and more! Follow Christian: https://soulfulpower.com/ Grab a copy of the book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Soul-Power-Heroically-Yourself/dp/1735059005/ Zestie shoutout: Thank you Gem Zhang! Thank you for listening and being a patron of the show. I am indeed in awe of your support. Give my regards to your family! Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6CVL2QD Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: - Share to your friends - Share on social media - Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page - Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ANQENUPWKT9JS Transcript: Christian: the worldly power it's always has an agenda. It's always trying to grab something for itself and, and itself, grandizing so it's blowing itself up to seem bigger than it is. Where's that, that authentic power, the power that's inside of us, the soulful power. It doesn't need to prove anything to anybody. Glee: Hey, Zesties, welcome to the Gleeful Talk Show where we share zesty stories to cultivate the happiness and hero within. 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How do we cultivate happiness and hero within well as Zesties, we are privileged to be speaking with an award winning author, personal transformation coach for 30 years, and acclaimed speaker who has shared his message of awakening our soulful power to many settings, including the Ted X stage, his book Awakening the Soul of P ower has gained the praises of likes of multiple Grammy award-winning singer. Gloria Estefan, please. Welcome Christian de la Huerta. Hi Christian. Welcome to the show. Christian: hi, Glee. Thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity. Glee: Thank you, Christian, for coming on the show and yes, you have this, this, a long list of accolade s and all these inspirational messages that you are giving to the whole world. But I'm very curious to know what life experiences did you have that led you to who you are today? Christian: wow. What a, what a, what a big question. Thank you. You know, a couple of them that I, think have impacted who I am was, you know, I was born in Cuba, so I lived in a, in a communist country for the first 10 years of my life, which, which is interesting that I'm writing about. Personal empowerment, because for, your Zesties these who are listening here, and most of them realize that in a communist regime, in a totalitarian dictatorial country, the state pretty much owns you and decides everything, what you do and owns all your property and everything. And also I was raised in a very Catholic family, which is another power structure. That's power over. It's very hierarchical where you're pretty much told what to believe in what's right. And what's wrong. And the only access you have to the sacred is through the intermediary of the church or, or a priest. So, you know, be that as it may, it's interesting that. I am writing about personal empowerment and what it means to live a heroic life. And, one of the messages of my book is that that no matter what, environment we come out of, no matter what our past traumas that we can always figure out a way to step into our power. I was painfully painfully shy as a teenager to, the degree that. I was a good student when you know, which is one of the benefits of having been raised in a communist country is that we had a TV, but there was nothing worth watching the programming. Wasn't good. It was mostly government propaganda, some old American movies from, the fifties or whatever it was, you know, w when I grew up in Cuba and. Oh, I was a good student. So I developed a lifelong love affair with books. And when we came to the states in high school, I had pretty much all A's, you know, like the highest grades, except for my last year of high school of secondary school. I got one B, which was enough to knock me out of the top. Slot and it, I didn't do this intentionally, but looking back on it, I know that I subconsciously sabotage my grade point average so that I wouldn't have to get up in front of a room of hundreds and hundreds of people and deliver the valedictorian speech at that point in my life, there is no way there's absolutely no way that, that that I could have done that. And I know that you personally really appreciate this story. As a fellow introvert and, and, and the point of the story is really the only reason that I, share it is because these days, and I speak all over the world, I've spoken on the TEDx stage. I've spoken at many, many universities and churches and conferences. And so that I know that there is a way that we can overcome our fears and transcend whatever obstacles we have allowed to hold us back from, being all of who we are. Glee: yeah, actually when we first connected with each other, I was a bit, scared actually, because I'm an introvert, I'm nobody and stuff. And then, this award winning author and TEDx. Speaker, will be on the show. So I was very scared at the same time, but then when I read your book and when I was emailing you in all of these things, I can really resonate with the book And you have this very calming demeanor, I would say to that. It makes, people talk to you be calm I feel so. Yeah. And Christian: And I want to ask you a favor, Glee never, ever, ever, ever, ever do. Do do, would you ever use that phrase? I am nobody. Ever again. Right. Because, because that just isn't true. We, we are, all of us were magnificent creations. We are really were miracles of creation. It's just that we have allowed conditioning and, misunderstandings about who we are. You know, like we, we misheard things as, as children or maybe our parents said something in a moment of overwhelm or they react that and said something to us the wrong way. And we. Misunderstood that we took that on as if there were something wrong with us or maybe our parents got separated or they got divorced. And as little minds that didn't know any better, we took that on as if it was our fault. Like how could daddy leave, , how could daddy leave us and. didn't he love us. And what does that say about me that am I not worthy of being loved? And we make all these big conclusions about who we are that had nothing to do with us. There were just nothing but misunderstandings of young minds that didn't know any better and the immense human potential that everyone has. Every one of us, no matter what, no matter where, where we live, no matter what we do That inherent value has nothing to do with that. And, and that's part of the reason that I wrote this book is to help each and every one of us get through those misunderstandings from, childhood and step into our power. And, and thank you. Thank you for your courage in doing this. Glee: Thank you so much, Christian and yes, the awakening, the soul of power. So what is the soul of power or what the soulful power mean to you? Christian: Yeah, good question. You know, most of us have an ambivalent relationship with power. We're conflicted about it. Part of a part of us wants it. Part of us is afraid of it. And if I've spoken to many people that as we get deeper and deeper into what's going on with that. We fear that, if we really stepped into all of our potential, if we really stepped into, into our power, that other people wouldn't be able to, like us, wouldn't be able to accept us and that we made end up alone. We also fear that we might abuse that we might cause harm. And no wonder we have to do is turn on the news on any given day and witnessed at least one abuse of power and oftentimes many more than that. We've also been. Conditioned to believe that power is a bad thing. You know, we've, we've heard quotes like power corrupts, absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. But what they didn't tell us about that quote from Lord Acton is that he was speaking specifically about political power. Not. Personal power. And then add to that mix. The fact that we've been conditioned to fear the emotions, we hate conflict. We avoid confrontation. We've labeled the emotional weakness. When the emotions are in weakness, the emotional is, are not good. They're not bad. They're not strength. They're not weakness. They're just energy. like everything else where it used to be spiritual teaching that everything is energy. Now we know from quantum physics, that it's true. That means the body, the emotions, everything is energy. Energy can not be destroyed so we can only suppress it. We can only like stuff it. And so when you add all that up together, what happens is that we, end up giving our power away our innate. Inherent power. No one can give to us. No one can take it away. We are the only ones who can give it away. And the sad part is that we give our power away for, sad reasons. For lame reasons, we settle for less. We, say yes. When inside we feel, no, we play small for an illusion of security. For a false sense of acceptance and for crumbs for morsels of pseudo love, because it's not even authentic love that we're settling for it. Glee: Yeah, that's really true. Like when you say. You said about like, you just want to be small. I really had those moments, like even now, like I'm an adult and even when I was a child, so there are moments that, I struggled, whether oh do I really want to, like when I started the podcast, I wanted a podcast art that is very subtle, not, eye-catching because I don't want to be seen, but I don't, I want to send a message, but then I realized that it's not really, me. Like I'm a simple person, but how having a colourful art or something doesn't really mean that. there's a lot of things that went through my head. That's why I changed my branding and all that stuff, because initially I do not want to be seen, but now I have like colorful logos and stuff. So I have those kinds of power struggles. So how do we get out of these kind of instances? Christian: and that's another example Glee because when I was researching you and your, podcasts, I couldn't find a photograph about you. And now that I see you on this podcast interview, you're beautiful. You're beautiful. So, so what are you doing? Hiding you cut it out. Like, and I totally get it. I totally, I was, I was that way too. And the thing is that we've been. Confused. We been conditioned to believe that to be. All of who we are to like really shine that, that is arrogance. And when we think about it, here's a way to reframe that there isn't anybody out there who has the same genetics who has the same set of experiences that make us who we are that make us a unique, like we're one of a kind. There isn't anybody in this universe or any other universe that has those, genetics and experiences. So if we don't give full expression to that, to that human potential, nobody else is going to do it, and nobody else is going to do that anywhere. So, so when I think about that, when I think about the times in which we live, from my perspective, it's all hands on deck. the planet will be fine. It might take a few million years, but life will continue in some form. Even you can say the consciousness will continue as it finds itself to, evolve. And, you know, maybe it turns out to be a conscious, enlightened cockroach planet. Who knows. Whether we make it, that's the question, because it's just now that we're beginning to witness whatever it is that we have unleashed on the environment. So when we look at it from that perspective, and we think about. The potential that each one of us has, like any one of us has the slightest suspicion that we have worked to do that we have a work to do as teachers, as healers, as activists for change like you're doing through your podcast is like, how, dare we play small? So it's like, to me, that's the arrogance, in these times, it's what we're being called to do is to, shine our breath, our light, as bright as possible. So that we can be that, beacon in the darkness and the fog and that somebody will, at some point might hear something that comes out of our mouth, or they may hear some message through your podcast. That's going to be just what that person needed to hear that then is going to take them on that journey of really realizing their potential. Glee: it's very inspirational. And the thing is that as you said, like, we tend to be, playing small and it's like cheating ourselves. Right. It's like yeah. And, you talk a lot about personal power, especially in this book, Not other kinds of power, like political power and such. So how do we not sell out of our personal power? Like when we tend to succumb to those instances that we cheat ourselves, how do we maybe come out from drowning? Christian: yeah. Beautiful, beautiful question. And so a couple of things that come to mind, one of them is understanding. we started to talk about that there are different kinds of power and that there is a way that we can step into our power. That doesn't require that we push anybody down because that's the problem with these hierarchical power over organizations and structures, know, they require for. Somebody to be on top and somebody to push somebody down. so that's why good-hearted people don't want to do that. We don't want to abuse other, we don't want to abuse power. We don't want to be corrupted by power. So. Those are the reasons that we tend to give our power away, but it's important to realize that there is a way that we can step into our power, that doesn't require that we push anybody down, that we step on them, that we control them by fear or by force or domination that we push anybody down and put our need to their neck so that we prop ourselves up in fear, powerful and feel powerful. There's the way that we can step into our power. That is congruent with the good people that we are. And, and so that's the whole, message of the book, like the realizing that there's a difference between worldly power, how the world relates to power and spiritual power or soulful power. some of the differences, for example, worldly power. We tend to associate power with people who have, money, who are famous, who are part of some kind of organizational hierarchy, whether it's corporate ladder or some kind of religious hierarchy or organizational structure. But the thing about those powers is that they're all outside of us. They're external. So they're. Here today, gone tomorrow. Whereas the other kind of power that I'm talking about is inside us. Nobody can give it to us. Nobody can take it away. As we were saying before, we are the only ones who can give it away and that we give it away for all the wrong reasons. One, you know, the worldly power it's, it's always has an agenda. It's always trying to grab something for itself and, and itself, grandizing so it's blowing itself up to seem bigger than it is. Where's that, that authentic power, the power that's inside of us, the soulful power. It doesn't need to prove anything to anybody. It just is humble and it's about service. It's about making a difference. So think of a Gandhi. Or a Gandalf, from the Lord of the rings and they're simple monastic robes their, sandaled feet, you would never know how much power they hold until it's necessary until it's called for. And when we think about it, Gandhi brought the British empire to its knees. when it was at its highest point, In terms of global influence on global reach without ever shooting a gun or landing a single punch, talk about power. That's the power that brings about global change and shifts to the power structure in terms of an empire. And that's the kind of power that each of us has access to that gets inside of us. Glee: beautiful. Really beautiful. And when I hear the word power, it's like equate to being like a hero. So, what is heroism for you in this day And age? Christian: Yeah. And that's a beautiful question. Because I'm also an unlikely person. There'll be speaking about what heroism is because I was so painfully shy. And that's this book is the first of a series of three books. The title of the series is calling all heroes because I think we're all being called to step into what that means. what living heroically means in the 21st century. And, up until recently, most of us, when we thought of the word hero, we thought of, you know, superhero with a, with a Cape, a Superman or wonder woman or maybe we thought about. You know, first responders, warriors, firefighters, that kind of thing. COVID ironically has expanded the way that we think about what heroism is. So now we include in that word, we include in that category are our healthcare practitioners are our doctors, our nurses, our respiratory therapists who literally put their lives at risk to take care of the rest of us. And continued to do so in these times of, the global pandemic and then maybe we even included there grocery store clerks or delivery people who also placed their lives at risk in order to keep the rest of us fed and provided for. And so what about the rest of us though? We're like, what does that mean for us to live heroically? And so. That's what the, the series is about. Like, how do we step into, heroism? maybe we don't have a horse hitch tot side. Maybe we don't have the armors. Maybe we're not fighting demons except the ones inside our own heads. and that's what this book is about. What does it mean to, look at our own fears? Like the traumas that we have all overcome to be willing to look inside and to ask the difficult questions, like why do we do the things we do? Why do we get stuck in these patterns of behavior? In what situations do we give our power away? What are the patterns do we tend to give our power away in, romantic, intimate sexual relationships? Or maybe do we tend to give our power away in relationship to authority figures, parents, bosses cops Military officers, coaches religious figures and, asking those questions are hard or, you know, asking questions, like why do we get into these patterns of relationships that sometimes feel like we're in the same boring movie? But just with a different actor with a different lead actor, but, but the thing kind of relationship the patterns. and so at some point we have to get honest and we have to get courageous and we have to realize that there is only one common denominator in every one of those relationships and in every one of those power struggles and in every one of those conflicts that we get and it's us. And so having the courage to look inside. And to understand why we do the things we do and understand what triggers it, what triggers us. It's it's hard work and it's nothing short of heroic. And it is so worthwhile because the possibility, what becomes possible is freedom. And so that we can have the kind of relationships that we really long for, and we can have a life filled with meaning and purpose and a sense of personal empowerment. So it's yes. It's tough work. Yes. It requires work to go within and it becomes empowering. Everything becomes possible. We can have the lives of our dreams when we're willing to do that. Glee: yes, very good. Because it needs for us to be aware of ourselves so that we can question those things. Is that. you, you mentioned because sometimes we can't even question ourselves because we're not aware of it, right. Christian: it's like, being afraid of speaking in public because of stuff that happened when I was a kid, know, because of ways that I was raised things that we were conditioned by. And so whatever the trauma was is not, and it's not to minimize anybody's trauma. We've all had to deal with stuff that shouldn't have happened. And that sucked But here's the thing if we're, if we're on a journey of personal empowerment, as long as we're holding somebody outside of us or some system outside of us, responsible for our state of being. Right. if only mom hadn't done this, or dad had been that way, if it had only been for that teacher, whatever they said to us when we were kid or the minister or society or sexism or racism or homophobia, if it only wasn't for that. Then I would be happy, then I would be in my power. Then it would, then I would have meaning and purpose. We just gave our power away. Right. We're holding something outside of us, responsible for how, for our lives. That's completely disempowering and it's not to minimize. Anything that happened. And it's not to deny that there are systems that are inherently unfair and that some of the systems in the world are stacked against some people. So it's not to minimize any of that is not to deny any of that. But it's to say that if we want to step into our power, we've got to own that we have a choice. Right that it sucked or things that happened that sucked and that we can count on life, continuing to throw curve balls our way, right. Things that we just didn't see coming. And things that may not be, even be fair. So, as long as we can say, you know what, that sucked, I wish that hadn't happened. And how will I be in response to that? What am I going to do about that now? Right. That completely reframes everything and allows us to reclaim our power in every single situation. Glee: yeah, it's truly taking ownership of your life and your actions, right? Yeah. It's very beautiful message. Christian: That's it. You just, you just reframe it as no matter what happened. get to decide how we show up in response to yeah. Glee: Yeah. I'm very curious. what inspires Christian de la Huerta the most. Christian: since I was a kid, I've always had a sense of mission. Like I always knew that I was here to, help others, to make a difference, to serve the sacred, you know, which at different points in my life looked differently when I was a kid and I was raised in that very Catholic environment. I thought I wanted to be a priest. And. You know, realized in my teenage years that that religion didn't have room for me. And so I had to find different ways of expressing that desire to make a difference to, to serve humanity, to serve the sacred, to serve the universe. And, know, there's one of my favorite quotes and I'm rephrasing it. It's from Einstein you can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness in which it was created. So when I look at the world that we live in and all the problems that we face that sometimes feel like impossible. And when I think about. how are we ever going to dig ourselves out of this hole that we have collectively dug ourselves into? You know, and how do we even begin to talk to, somebody like from a different culture, a different. Religion, how do we connect with a terrorist that doesn't even think I'm human? how do we begin to, deal with the environmental crisis that we're just now beginning to witness the, effects of. And so when I think about all that, I just think, you know what, it's the only way out. It's, a spiritual revolution. a revolution in consciousness, a leap in evolution in terms of consciousness. And so when I think about that, I think. what can I possibly do? Me personally? And I think, you know what, the only thing that I can do, because like, what am I going to do about the environment by myself? It's not much, but what I can do is continue to heal myself and wake myself up and to help as many others do the same. And that's what we can all do. Glee: Oh, thank you so much, Christian, for all that you do. It's very inspiring. I'm very excited for the next twoseries of the book. When is it coming? Christian: This first one is out then the next one is on relationships specifically. So like the first one is how does a hero step into power in a way that that is congruent with who we are that is not about abuse or hierarchy or, power over, like how do we do power in a different way that's power with and, so. The next book is on relationships. Like how does, how does a hero do relationships consciously? How do we approach them in a different way? And, how do we do them in a way that they can work, that they can actually work. That one is probably going to come out in this, around Valentine's of 2022, Valentine's day, 2022. And the third book is up about life purpose. Like, how do we really step into what we've come here to do at a mission level at a soul level? And how do we stop playing small and hiding our light under a bushel? And so that'll be the year after that. Glee: Great. And I love the sequencing actually, because it it's like knowing yourself first and then, you know, like relationships with others. And the next one is like the bigger picture. That's how I see it. So it's very good. Christian: You nailed it. That's exactly the it's exactly what the progression as I see it too. Glee: Great. And I have some, a few fun questions before we wrap up, but not really seriousness, are you ready? Christian: I'm ready. Glee: Okay, great. Okay. So if you could have an unlimited storage of one thing, what would it be? Christian: Oh my God. Okay. Yeah, I guess it would be love, huh? that ultimately what we all long for and what we all are like once he cut through all the BS that's, what's inside each of us and that's what changes the world and not a Hallmarky, you know, airy fairy kind of love, but love is as fierce and the most powerful force in the universe. Glee: I try to make it fun, but I think everything about you is just very so deep, but I love it. I love it very much. Christian: I forgot. It was a fun question. Glee: yeah, most of the time, actually, I tell the guests like, oh, I have a fun question for you, but it turns out the answers are really, really deep, which really is resonating with everyone as well. And especially with my audience. Christian: Go Zesties! teeth. Glee: Yeah. And other than writing and inspiring people, what are you most passionate about? Christian: I think what we were talking about before about. Making a difference. And you know, I am so humbled that the work that I do, like my retreats, my, coaching, my virtual coaching programs my braiding that it actually makes a difference in real human lives. And I'm glad that I don't have to choose between my soul level mission, my work and having sex, but if I had to choose, I'm very clear of that. There's no question that I would choose my purpose because to me, that is what gives me my deepest, meaning my deepest satisfaction. Glee: Awesome. And you mentioned about your coaching. This is not part of the fun question, but I just got me curious that what is the most heartwarming message that you've received with your trainees or your mentees in your program? Christian: oh my God. What a, what a beautiful question. And what a difficult one, because there's so many Glee: know. Christian: so many, but here's, here's one that always touches my heart. Here's a woman who was in her fifties. Like a really, high-powered brilliant, brilliant executive like vice president of a, of a multinational corporation at the highest, highest levels. And yet in her personal life. She had never had a, real meaningful, loving relationship. Of course she'd been had many relationships, but not the, kind of relationship that, she really long for where she could be met by a partner by somebody who was really going to see her and both respect her. Honor her and also challenge each other to be the best that they could be. And so she did a couple of retreats with me, probably two or three retreats in on the third retreat. She had those realization because of some childhood trauma that she had seen herself trapped in this room and realized. That she had always given the power away to, to this abuser and realized that she was the only one who could let herself out. And in this breathwork session, in the middle of this retreat, she opened the door out of this room and let herself out. And so that was the culmination of, many healing opportunities that led to that moment. and that's what I mean by heroism. Like for her to get to that point, she'd had to like remember stuff that wasn't fun to remember. That was really difficult to remember. She'd had to face herself, she had to face her fears, but it was so worth it because. Like two days later, she was having lunch with a friend, after she had that liberating experience where she set herself free and let herself out of this room. And she was having lunch with a friend and the friend said, Oh, yeah. You know what? I don't know why. I hadn't thought of this, but there's this guy that you need to meet this friend I need to meet. I think you guys are gonna like each other long story short, last year in the middle of the pandemic you know, they, they came down and it was just a very small wedding and we had all been tested. They married them and it was like just the two of them. And went out her sister and her brother. And that was it. and so she found like the, the relationship of her life, like her life partner, and now they're, you know, they live together beautiful house on a beautiful lake up in a beautiful private lake. And so, so that's, what's available to any of us when we're willing to do this difficult work of this heroic work, it is so worthwhile. Glee: wow. That was a very heartwarming, like it's like happily ever after. Christian: Yeah, Glee: Yeah. Christian: well, and of course, no, no, no, there is no perfect relationship and of course relationships require work. But it is so worthwhile. So happily ever after, but not in those, you know, Hallmarky, uh, Glee: A fairy tale. Christian: In that, in that Disney princess sort of way, it's like, it's Glee: Yes, Christian: a different way. It's like we all got to empower ourselves and nobody can do it for us. And, and there's difficult work that that's heroic work, that we're talking about this willingness to face ourselves and face our inner demons. And to look at these difficult patterns and ask ourselves the difficult questions. Why do we do the things we do? And why do we get stuck in these patterns of behavior of self-sabotage? And why do we get stuck in these power struggles? There is an answer and there is a way out, no matter what happened. And no matter what happens. So for all the Zesties out there, thank you for, being willing to look inside and, to do the work, the heroic work of empowering ourselves and freeing ourselves. Glee: thank you, Christian. And please invite the Zesties. Where can they find the book and where can they find you? Christian: Yeah. And thank you glee for having me on the show and thank you for you, your heroic work christian_de_la_huerta-2021-6-13__6-59-36: I Christian: know whether there's to be introverted. And I know the, the courage that it must have taken for you to take on this does facilitating a podcast in you doing that and you stepping into, and you overwriting your fear. And and saying yes to the call of your soul to take this project done. You're making a difference lives are being changed. So thank you so much for that. And in terms of where to find the book, they can find it on Amazon. They can find it at a local bookstore. They just need to order it. And in terms of getting in touch with me they can go to my website. SoulfulPower.com. And from there they can access my different social media. And any of the zesty is out there listening. If they get on my email list and it's easy to unsubscribe, if it doesn't work for you, but just for getting on my email list. Now, if they go to my website they'll get. A sample chapter from the books, they get a taste of it. They get some power practices, which are designed to apply the teachings to our lives, to integrate them because we don't need more information. You know, we're all on information overload, what we need is transformation. And that's what their teachings are designed to do to apply them to our own situations, to our own lives. And then they'll also get a guided meditation and a teaching about trust which is what. What we're all longing for too, in these, times of dramatic change and chaos and uncertainty. Glee: Oh, great. Thank you so much, Christian, for being in the show and thank you for all the work that you do. Christian: Thank you.
39 minutes | Jul 13, 2021
S2E9: Trese Anime vs Comics and Filipino Mythology Ft. Ray Donn Lim
A simulcast episode with Nerdy Fangirl Podcast, where Ray and I talk about Trese, a Filipino animated series adapted from a comic book illustrated by Kajo Baldisimo and writer Bujette Tan. Ray is a fellow otaku from Cebu, who is currently based in Auckland, New Zealand. We shared our thoughts on the animated series, whilst Ray provided depth and background about the comic book, Filipino mythology, more particularly, the story of the creation based on Cebuano mythology. Stay tuned at the end of the episode where he shares his recommended Filipino authors and their works. This episode is recorded via Riverside.FM. It's a very cool platform designed for podcasters and creators. Get 25% off on your first 3 months of subscription through this link and key in the coupon code Mediaboard25 upon checkout. 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And so today we are going to talk about a Filipino animation series adapted from a comic book series, entitled Trese, which is now available on Netflix . So I haven't read the comics yet, but I'm glad to be talking today with my guest slash co-host, who has read the comics and watch the anime as well. He is currently based in New Zealand, but which is also from my hometown Cebu. Please welcome Ray Don Lim. Hi Ray. Welcome to the show. Ray: Hi glee. Glad to be here. Glee: Great. Thank you for being on the show and yes. So Trese before anything else? We'll try not to be, talking a lot of spoilers. So would that Zesties these will still, we will still like to watch it, but can you talk about what, in a nutshell, on a nutshell, what Trese is about. Ray: So Trese is actually a mid two thousands comics that was created by sir Butch and Bellissimo. It's basically action detective story that revolves around Philippine mythology. The main character is Alexandra Trese. She is the I believe the Babaylan-Lakambini . Basically she keeps a balance between the human world and the world of the the spirit world, basically in the Philippines. So the anime is a little bit more action oriented than the comics. Let the guys out there know, but it's beautiful. It's something that we could call our own. And it's something that I on a personal note wish could be a little, could be more mainstream, internationally. Glee: Great. so you've mentioned about Babaylan-Lakambini, and I know you are also fascinated about Filipino mythology. So for for the benefit of our Zesties, So what is buh-bye land beanie or, I mean, these words might be separate on their own. I think? Ray: Yep. So ,Lakambini, I'm not entirely sure. But Babaylan that basically priestess or yeah, priestess in our old times and I might be wrong, but to the best of my knowledge Babaylans can only be women and you know, they are our connection to the gods. So. Yes while our pre-colonial times in the Philippines of men did ruleas Datus, but our women also had very prominent roles. They were basically our connection to the gods. So Trese here is kind of like that connection, I would say to, to the spirit to the gods, especially if you. Read some of the comics or spin-off comics on Trese and definitely also our protector. so. Lakambini. Like I said, I'm not entirely sure. I'll have to Google that, but to the best of my knowledge as well, it might be about warriors or whatnot. Glee: so, Trese, is you know, like a detective, but has in the modern times, but it's like also in touch with the spirit world. As we mentioned, mythic logical creatures that was, that was shown there. So if you could share also to us, what were the, your favorite mythical creature and why you are fascinated with it? Ray: Yeah. So I would say like, well, outside of the anime and thecomics my favorite mythological creature it would be the Encanto. I was tempted to think about Aswangs, to be honest, because that is definitely what we have on the mainstream. But with, with Encantos, they're basically our. Filipino elves. They are beautiful noted as, in fact gorgeous. And they're very good with illusion and deceptive magic, you know, making you believe some somewhere else. And there are, and here's the caveat than that. There are persistent stories about them even to the modern age, especially if you go into the more rural parts of the Philippines. So that's why I could say I have some sort of favoritism over them and some sort of curiosity. You know if you've worked in the Philippines. Yeah. Yep. Glee: Yeah. Yeah. But because interests, I'm not sure where, which one is Encantos. Is that the, the women, the white women with that with Maliksi? Was Ray: you could Glee: They were not really introduced. Right. Ray: So, um, Glee: there. Right. Ray: Oh, yeah. So the way they are wind spirits and I, yeah. So depending on who you ask, They some might be more Puritan and say that they're Anitos which is, really our, our sort of are sort of equivalent to something ethereal or or spiritual, you know? Glee: Okay. Okay. Interesting. So outside Trese you were already fascinated with Filipino mythology back when you were like, how old. Ray: Let's just say. Probably in my early teens, like I won't deny the of fact that my, that I've read more about Greek gods and maybe a bit number of other foreign foreign inspired, I would say mythology, but. With regard to Filipino mythology, apart from the fact that we discuss it back in our schools when we were younger. I was just fascinated when I went to the library and read a bit about them, read about our creation, myths, both firstly, the Tagalog creation myths, which is more famous. It was about Bathala and a giant snake that he had to kill. And then I, of course being the proud Cebuano, I know that I am, I tried to see if we, as Cebuanos or Visayans had our own creation myth.. And lo and behold, we actually do. And one character in that myth actually appears in a Trese comic spinoff. Now I won't spoil much of it. We can discuss that a bit of that later, but yeah, so that's, I, I just really love reading about stories like this fiction and whatnot and the connection. That it provides to a pre Spanish past. So for the listeners out there, we in the Philippines do learn a lot about our history when, Spain took over our country. But prior to that, not many as known and whenever we have that opportunity or I have that opportunity to learn more about it through these stories. It's fantastic. And I really love it. Glee: it's good that you mentioned because you know for me, I really haven't tried to read most of them in the libraries. Were they, were they even there in the libraries? Like I haven't noticed, I only would like read like Nancy drew or something, so it's quite embarrassing, but. Ray: No, there is nothing embarrassing about reading and expanding your knowledge and enjoying life through books. Thing with me is I gravitate towards those and it reflects on the kind of anime or shows that I watch, which is why I'm very, I'm very interested in the Marvel cinematic universe. Thor and, you know, trying to see the gods and whatnot, and in our own Filipino setting. I love that Trese anime. I love the Trese comics and I love other books done by our authors. When I have the chance to read them, of course, we can definitely discuss further about these authors or their books rather, but just to name, drop a few books like by David Hontiveros they, the thing with David's books is that he tries to steer away from the mainstream. And then you, and once you do your own private research, you realize, well, some of these creatures are actually present in Butuan or Bicol those outside of Metro Manila, and it's amazing that way. So these are just some of the sample. Glee: Great. so can we go back to about the Visayan creation, because I'm not entirely across this topic, so if you could share it to us, what do you maybe read that? You know, at least we would be more appreciative of our creation story. Ray: Okay. No worries. So just a little bit of background or as well for, for our listeners. Glee and I are from a region called the Visayas , which is south of the Capitol. The Philippines is very diverse. Culturally, if you, if you search that on and our creation myths differs, I would say from the creation myth that most people who might know of. So in the Visayas who our Supreme God is Kaptan rather than, uh Bathala. So Kaptan in it's all power of course created the heavens And then funny thing with this one is. The thing with our myths is that it's very much the same as I would say Western myths we're in our gods are not perfect. Sometimes they're not even immortal. You can have them killed or they can die naturally. And this is what happened in our Visayan myths, where in, I believe a Kaptan's grandchildren decided that. We're powerful or powerful bastards. Sorry for the language. We'll let's go take, take on our grandpa. Of course, grandpa being the old powerful God decided to teach them a lesson and kill them. Funny way to teach grandchildren a lesson. So his grandchildren became the land became the moon, became the sun. In fact it was even noted that the one that became the. The land was the one who led to rebellion. And this is also the interesting part is how we show through our myths that even these gods, again are not perfect. They might even be as human as us because he accidentallykills his innocent granddaughter who was looking for her brothers. And. Kaptan shot her with, I believe a lightning bolt. She shattered into a million pieces. And when he finally calms down and regrets, what he did he turns her bodies or the shattered pieces of her bodies into our stars. See, so I see that. So it's like, wow, it's amazing how we are able to come up with these kinds of stories, you Glee: Yeah. Yeah. And you mentioned that there are some similarities with Western mythology. It's just fascinating to me that, before there's no internet. They do not know about the land outside the Philippines and how. Similar or maybe like, there are similarities in a way, which is like, Ray: Yep. I suppose it's just my own thinking that we turn into the divine, those that we are not too familiar with or those that we see that we cannot reach like the sun in many cultures, we see that as we see them as gods. If I'm not mistaken, Bathala uses lightning bolts. And you know, who's a very famous God who uses lightning bolts. So that's how we see things that make us, that keep us in awe that keep us in fear. We see them as gods in the olden days right now, of course we have science, but there's always that beauty of that mysticism and that connection that it gives us to our past, you know, so that's why I enjoy those. Glee: Yeah. Yeah. It's very fascinating. it's good that you have discovered them because it's not mainstream, you know, like looking at Filipino mythology. And so was this in the libraries before. Ray: I would say yes. I'm not one of those, to be honest, I'm not one of those guys who during recess would, would grab a basketball and shoot some hoops. Like any self-respecting Filipino, I suppose. I do enjoy the NBA watching, my favorite teams win. But then I always found myself in the library, reading about our stories. Always tried to find books that cater to that. And I know it's not Filipino, but Harry Potter made me want to take up writing, So I'm one of those guys who love the fictional world. And I won't lie, maybe because sometimes the real world is not always too good, you know? Glee: Yeah. Yeah. I can really, really relate to that. Ray: Exactly. So there is that. any with books, they say you can go visit the world. I'm going to elevate that argument and say with books, you can see beyond the world that you see in your eyes, So again, it just fascinates me and I continue to be fascinated as, as I move along with my life. Glee: Great. So going deep dive into Trese. what are your thoughts Trese's character?. Maybe thoughts on Trese herself as a character in the comic and the anime. Ray: Okay. So Trese as a character. Let's just put it out there for me. It was a really good thing that she's, she's there to represent us all. I would say she's, a great ambassador to our stories and whatnot. And here's something that I've also read with regard to Trese's history. Now, sir, Butch and Kadjo. When they created a TruSeq character, she was originally supposed to be male. And I suppose a lot of people didn't know that, but then I believe it was Sir Butch who, who said. Hey, why don't we make her female? Because if we keep her male, she'll just be like any other action star. And, you know, I think that's also good that we as Filipinos, I suppose, as a callback to our older times where we've, where we do view women at such prominence, we give prominence to the woman right now in the modern world saying that yes, our women are great. Yes. Our women can also kick. alien butts or rather demon butt at this, at this point. Right. So I think that's it. Yeah. Glee: And what I like about in our culture in general is, you know, like Western cultures have really patriarchal society. I mean, we have that one, but the women is not like far behind, I feel. I feel that Filipino women are are strong, or stronger. Ray: Yep. On that point, I don't know if this is real or might be apocryphal, but friends of mine, really good friends of mine who shared, you could say the same passion of reading about our history or whatnot did say that our martial arts Arnis, and it's. Pre-colonial form was also used by our women and a reason why a few, not many people would try to raid us is because when they do and they step into the house, our women would just beat them up. So I don't know if that's true, but I wouldn't be surprised either granting the kind of strength our women have shown throughout the generations. Glee: Yeah. Yeah. Great. And for Trese Trese in itself in the comics and anime, are they depicted differently or what, or what are your thoughts? Ray: No, actually, they're virtually the same, you know? So she strong-willed shifts your strict bossing slash "Ate" to really, really rambunctious younger brothers or this case. the kambals, the twins. I know they're Demi gods and whatnot, but you see that there's this brother, sister dynamics. And as somebody who's. The middle child with an older sister. I know how fun it can be to just mess with the "Ate". And you can feel that sometimes with the kambals and you've got the Trese who just like, you know what, I'm busy and God, I don't want to deal with you guys, but you're my brothers. I love you. I have no choice, but to love. So I love that. I love that, that it's still there and the anime, you know, Glee: Hmm. And What about the anime voice acting? I know this has um, this has really garnered some mixed opinions. I feel with netizens, but of course this is our, just our thoughts. So do not bash us guys, but yeah. So what are your thoughts? Ray: Okay. So first and foremost I will really claim that Tagalog is not my first language. It is a national language. Yes. I can speak it. I grew up in the Philippines, but like most like already, like many Cebuanos knows our Tagalog is not up to par. I would say, so I favored watching the episodes in English and the thing, but the English ones, I think they Did pretty well in representing it. It was, I would say, it wasn't as great. I should add. It should be, it was serviceable. I like the part where the characters do not sound American. In many cases they do sound Filipino, especially side characters, like captain Guerrero and Lieutenant Tapia with Alex. I know she was done by a Canadian Filipino. Who, who is well-versed in Filipino as well. I think she may have grew up here. Glee: Did she? Ray: I, from the, I'm not sure Did she move to Canada at 19? Glee: sure as well, but yeah. Okay. Please go on. Ray: no, no worries. And yeah, so I think she represented it still very well still serviceable, but with regard to the Tagalog dub, I have seen the comments and I have watched at least one episode just to compare now. the honest truth is that Liza Sobrano the voice actress it felt quite monotonous, her delivery, you know, it didn't have that, the kind of a range emotional range that could have help the, anime. And yes, I know I just watch one episode, but apparently those who watch the full shebang felt the same way as well. Now, again, for me, From a marketing perspective, I get where the producers were coming from. Yes. As an audience member, I wish theyactually got professional voice actors, but see especially for our listeners out of the Philippines Liza Soberano is one of our, I would say one of our premier TV, actresses currently, and for her to have been brought in on a marketing perspective would really generate a lot of buzz would really get people, especially those, not familiar with the comics to, to come in and have a look. Sadly, it didn't work out as, as good as people might've hoped for, but at least it got the word out there. Do I think changes should be made in the next season if we're getting a next season a season two then yes, I do hope. I think we could definitely improve it on, that point, but again, this is nothing against Liza. Uh, Maybe it's a new venture for her, right. What are your thoughts on that one though? Glee: Yeah. So with what you said that the English version Had some Filipino English or the accent might be, I felt not really. They felt, I felt like who was that captain Guerero or I know Anton, the father of Trese, he sounded like Nico Bolzico for me. Ray: Oh? Glee: Nico. Do you know Nico Bolzico? Ray: No, I'm sorry. Glee: he's not an actor. He is the husband of Solenn Heussaf and so he is not Filipino at all. Like he's Argentinian, but is residing in the Philippines. So he speaks kind of like that. So like maybe like Ray: Latin Glee: Latin American, so, yeah. Yeah. So most of them, I feel that they are more Latin American, which Cause a lot of Filipinos, really are well versed in English. Right. And we have a certain accent English accent as well. I was wondering why they didn't get like maybe professional Filipino voice actors who speak English, English. That's what was running through my mind. Do you have any other thoughts? Ray: Yeah. So like I mentioned earlier again, maybe it was just to generate buzz as well. And now that you mention it, maybe Captan Guerero does have that. I would say Spanish twang partially, but I do still stand by saying that it does have, or they did attempt to give it a Filipino flair because. Filipino or Tagalog, Tagalog English accent. You can really hear it. And to that point of again, voice professional voice actors, I get where they're coming from there. We're just trying to market this and try to make it as international as possible. And if you deliver a movie and say it's an English, and then with really thick Tagalog English accent, it might fall flat. You know? So from a marketing perspective, again, I, I get where they were coming. Glee: Okay. Yeah, I get what you mean on that one then, but anyway, but also with my thoughts on, of course Liza Soberano , I didn't actually know. I didn't know anything about Trese,to be honest, anything at all, then it just showed up in my Netflix, you know, recommendations. And then when I saw some, some Instagram posts that, oh, it's actually Filipino, then I started it, but I started it in English as well. And I didn't know that there was a Tagalog version then when I switched to Tagalog then yes. Again, I was disappointed to the point that, yeah, I prefer English as well with listening on English and the thing with their Tagalog, subtitles is also different with what they are saying. So it's like, it doesn't reconcile. So, hard though. I was trying to, you know, love that the tagalog version and it's also, the subtitles were wrong or, I mean, not, not the same with what they were saying. And also about yeah. Liza. I actually, if I would hear it, I wouldn't think that it was Liza Soberano on the mic, which is I mean, kudos to her that she was able to, really do it. Like make a difference with what her normal thing, how was she normally says the Tagalog or something, but still, I agree with being monotonous in a way. And even, my husband was who doesn't speak the Tagalog at all. you know he heard it and he said like, what, what is that? Acting voice, acting like it's so... It's so dry. Like he was like commenting, like he doesn't know at all anything about it, but he, I was mentioning to him about like, oh, this is Soberano. I know. And she's very popular in the Philippines and whatnot. So, but still, he was even like an outsider who is not Filipino, Ray: Yep. Glee: that it's kind of monotonous and It's just, I feel there's a really big difference. Like maybe it's because it's our first time first time, delivering this to international audience. But if you compare it like series, like game of Thrones, where actors we're not, really popular. Like only few actors were popular there. I think like maybe Cersei or Tyrion. But most of them were not, really, very famous, but then that's how they started. But how Filipinos do it or it's the other way around? I know that's just what I feel, but maybe it's because they wanted it to be marketable in the international audience, which I think again is. Countering it, I feel because if we want to market it into an international audience with the word international, they don't knowLiza Soberano. I know. I don't know. That's just my thoughts, but yeah. Ray: Yup. I get where you're coming from and that's, those are actually pretty good points, but we also have to consider that apart from the international audience, we are also marketing it to our fellow Filipinos and they're trying to get it on a wider demographic. Now, if you're trying to get everyone on board, then that's where that name recall really helps. And. I'll be honest the sad to say sometimes yes, Filipinos do tend to defend to the high heavens our own talent to the detriment of something that could work far more internationally. You know, so yes, there is that point, but I also, we also have to look at it from. Again, from a marketing perspective And of course from a budget perspective, you mentioned game of Thrones. How many millions of dollars can be funneled into that to get people like umTyrion Lannister, Cersei say the actors through those to come in, we don't have that kind of budget. I think so, Glee: know what I know, what I mean is like, I'm not, not the, the famous ones, but people the Arya and Harrington, they weren't really household names at that time. So, but yeah, I get, I really get what you mean as well that, for a business point of view marketing point of view. Then it would make sense to have, I mean, Liza Soberano course she is a very pretty face. So having that version again, but again, but again, she's not full Filipino again and again. So I would have preferred someone. I don't know, the not bash me Zesties or anyone who's listening to this, but I would prefer someone let's say maybe still a household name, like Kathryn Bernardo or someone who is like really Filipino. Ray: Yeah. Glee: I don't know if, if we want this to be, I mean, it's not that Liza is less Filipino than we are, but I know you get, you know what I mean? Ray: I know, I know what you mean. I really do, but also yeah, Kathryn Bernardo, she also does have some name recall. I'll be honest. I don't watch our teleseryes again. I do avoid them. I do avoid them. Um, And I'm not really into drama, but I, again, I get where you're coming from on that end. Maybe it's yes, let's be honest here. Maybe it's because Liza does have a prettier face and I have seen her try to look like Trese and look, as far as looks are concerned, she does nail it. She really does. And you know, if it was a live action and she presented herself as a, an Alexandra Trese that way. Yeah. she can do it. Definitely. Glee: So who is your favorite character in Trese? Ray: So. I would point out just three. Just to, show you why. So, Amie and Hannah of course. I would say from my perspective, are my favorites, the reason being I'm a guy, so. Listeners, please deal with it. like with most guys, I do tend to be attracted to, to go pretty women and I like it and they're wind spirits they're actually, and if I'm going to be more technical, they're actually, have the ability to make things go really fast. And you've seen that in the anime, in the comics they present it that really well as well. So from that end, I do like, I do like that. The other one I would say is Talabugsao the God of destruction. Those who let's say family and friends who know me know for my pension, for liking action flicks or, or fantasy anime. And if anything, they presented Talabugsao really well, violent, strong, all powerful that even the main character truly would have a hard time beating. And I can actually make the argument, especially for those who who've watched the anime. Try not to spoil this, but the way they beat Talabugsao showed just what they needed to do. Just to be well, to get one up on somebody who is virtually indestructible, right. Because he is destruction itself. Right. So I would say that's why Amie and Hannah for it's the guy thing. If I'm going to be serious radon, then it's a Talabugsao. Glee: Okay. Do you, you mentioned three, so, the wind spirits are two. Okay. Okay. For me, I think I like Captan Guerrero actually at first I thought like, I was like, so skeptical about him. Maybe at first, oh, okay. He's a good guy, but maybe he's not really a good guy because he's too much of a good police. But yeah, actually on the sixth episode, the whole I'm trying not to spoil that much, but I thought he was actually the bad guy. Ray: Yes, Glee: Like, like he will turn into the bad guy. Ray: I understand it because if you look at a lot of stories, a lot of anime, especially if you, you mentioned earlier game of Thrones, though, those kinds of twists exists. And let me tell you right now, if you are a reader of the comics, you will see a huge twist. One particular character that I think worked out well in the anime that you were saying, just to give you a clue, you're going to go and say really he's a villain in the anime the clues there. Guys support our local people, read the comics. All right. Glee: Yeah. Yeah. Great. Thank you for that. And so any major differences that you can see with the anime and comics? Ray: Hmm. So with the anime, I did feel that it was more action oriented versus that of the comics not to say the comics didn't have its action. In fact, the books that had Talabugsao so had a lot of, of, of action thing with the. comics though, is that it highlights more of Trese detective skills rather than her fighting skills. Also in the comics, Trese uses implements to cast her spells rather than just you know, casting it in thin air. She used less magic and fighting and more with her physical combat, I would say. Let's see what other differences again, there are some crackers with some twists. Just to let you know, Hank the bartender in the diabolical, in the comics? He definitely wouldn't try to dress up to impress a girl. No, he he's not like that. So that's one, that's one thing maybe be with the art style? Well, I would say because in the comics it's really trying, it's say more Filipino. In fact Alexandra Trese looks more Chinese Filipino into comics. And the anime, I get it, that she is drawn that way because we are trying to reach a wider audience. And secondly it's marketed as an anime, right. And in anime wider eyes mean I would say friendlier has a friendlier tone, whereas a smaller eyes is a little bit more shows a little bit more hostility. Glee: Mm. Yes. Yes. And good. That you've mentioned that because I wanted to say as well, the costume of Trese, if this was set in the Philippines, it would be too warm. Ray: Right, right. So I've never thought about it that way, but from Glee: Okay. Ray: Yeah, from my research, she would say, or just soft reading. Sir Budj and Sir Kadjo, did decide that Trese is to wear that kind of trench coat with that kind of Chinese style buttons or whatnot. I know it might seem a bit too hot, but again, it does look cool. So maybe that's the Glee: Yeah, it is. It is cool. It is cool. It's just, I'm just trying to be nitpicky here. So yeah. And then also I feel that since I haven't really read the comics. How big the eyes or something. But when I saw Trese as someone who has not read, the comics has no clue and is Filipino. I feel that she's not Filipino looking. That's what I felt when I first saw it. So, and she's also lighter skinned than everyone else there. I feel Ray: Right. That's you could say that, that Glee: I'm nitpicking. So. Ray: No, that's all right. I mean personally, I don't know. I guess I look at Filipinos and we're a mix from dark skin to really light skin that you can't believe that they're, that they're Filipinos. So for me, the way Trese was depicted could be viewed as the modern Filipino. Like, can you truly say that? Right now, as, as a Filipina, you're a hundred percent Filipino, very few can say that. Personally me I'm, I'm Chinese Filipino looking at you I'm I'm thinking already she has Chinese blood, or might even have a bit of Spanish, you Glee: Yeah, my great grandma is Spanish. So. Ray: there we go. So see, there's already that mixture. And Alex, I do feel that she is a bit on the. Upper strata in terms of a class. So definitely if you notice, if you, if you look at the stereotype upperclassmen in the Philippines, they're usually fair skin, usually. All right. So I think that they were trying to and with a house, like what Trese had, you can definitely see that she's part of upper strata, you know? So Glee: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Great, great point there. Yeah. I totally agree. So it's just like try and find a nitpick, take something, you know. Also. was, it explained in the comics about being six child of the sixth child. And because I felt that Trese is 13. Why not 13th child of the 13th child? Ray: Okay. So my mistake so to be honest, it wasn't explained what the mysticism is there on being a six child of a six child is, or maybe it was, and I just forgot about it, Glee: Or maybe a theory. What is your theory? Ray: There have been. Western stories about a seventh child of a seventh child. If I'm not mistaken, there was even a movie about that. And there's some mysticism, there's some story behind that. And I think we might have been bringing that here because certainly I haven't heard about our mythology talking about our six child of a six child. Maybe we just borrowed that element from outside. Glee: Because I was thinking like, oh, her surname is Theresa. Why not 13th child of the 13th child. Yeah. Ray: Good. Yeah. I know now that I, now that I think of it, well, why not? Right. Glee: Right. And so what are your overall thoughts on this? Ray: Yep. So my overall thoughts is that it's an amazing anime, especially if you're a fan of Filipino mythology. Yes. It's, it's not perfect. I will admit to that, but for a first time for a fully Filipino story, it does represent us well. And I really do hope that it translate to more sales for, out for Sir Budj and Sir Kadjo's Trese books. And of course, other books as well, we do have other great authors who do represent us nicely in that, space. And. I do hope it, it revitalizes that interest in ourselves, our interest in our own culture. Now as a Filipino living in New Zealand, I get to see firsthand how the, Maori, the local people of New Zealand are very connected to their past are very connected to who they are. And I feel that in the Philippines, we've somehow lost a lot of that connection. Our stories our myths connect us back to that past, connect us back to the greatness that was, you know, not to say that we're not great Philippines, they're doing very well where we are Australia, New Glee: Hmm. Ray: and wherever. But again things that are our own things that we can be proud of, things that we can look back and pass on to the next generation. These are things that that are valuable and Trese again, I'm hoping, and our authors I'm hoping could revitalize, you know, that interest. Glee: And then what mythology authors or Filipino authors that you could recommend to our Zesties? Ray: Right. So I have prepared a bit of a list, but I'll Glee: Great. We're excited. Ray: Yep. So you might want to have a look at the works of Mervin Ignatio. He's a writer for Sky World. It is actually set in a still in the Trese universe. It's a spinoff, but it goes to a different track. You can think of it. That's another universe, So it's like, you know how in Marvel, they have multiple universes? you can consider it that way now. There's David Hontiveros . And he does have quite a few stories like Parman, Craving, Seroks and Takod. Now thing with this is his books are written. He has a unique style of writing, which sometimes does not work for me, but the kind of stories he presents are. Not your typical bash the enemy in the head kind of thing. There's actually a, he tries to go beyond the common themes and he tries to present stories outside of the mainstream Filipino stories that we know of Craving. For example, is a story about a woman who's part owl that's set in the Philippines. There's Karen. Another author that I, I did like her, her book called Nearmyth. She's Karen Francisco. So it's like a post-apocalyptic Philippines where our mythological creatures have taken over there's. Another one, Eliza, Victoria. And of course here's something that I dredged up from my closet over there. And one of the books that I actually brought from the Philippines, it's called the A Time for Dragons. It's an anthology of Philippine draconic fiction. So it's a good way to introduce yourselves to our Filipino authors at the same time it's dragons and who doesn't like dragons, you know, and a lot of it is set in Philippine setting. Glee: Hmm. Yeah. Great. Thank you for it that Ray. And where can we find, like on the internet these books Ray: In the internet to be fair. I think Lord Google provides. Glee: uh, Ray: a quick Google search would say would really show that a lot of this books that I, mentioned or, authors that I mentioned. You can go to, if you're in the Philippines, you can go to a national bookstore. You can go to other big chain bookstores and just go to the Filipino fiction section. And to be fair, a lot of this books are in English. So if you're like me, you struggle with, you struggle with Tagalog. Then you can get the English versions. If you like to like Tagalog stories, we actually do have good ones. And there was actually one book that I didn't mention. It's called Tabi Po and it was done by Mervin Monzo. And it's like this. Imagine Noli Me Tangere , that's one of a, that's a Filipino book done by our national hero, but the setting it, but a lot of the characters are actually mythological creatures or to be fair, no one character is in an Aswang. There we go. Glee: Great. Thank you for, yeah. your insights for you. And it was really a very enjoyable conversation. I felt like I'm the, you know, like I'm bad cop, good cop kind of conversation. Yeah. would you like to promote anything where can I are Zesties find you? Ray: For starters, I'm just your regular Joe. So I don't have any sort of platforms or whatnot. I've just lived life accordingly, but I'm in Auckland, New Zealand. Basically you'll find me on Facebook. Just search my name, Ray Donn Masangkay Lim, if you're not talk about these stuff or just have a. Conversation. I'm cool with it. But I will promote again, our authors I'll promote that book. I just shown a time for dragons Trese. I will promote that to the high heavens. Again, these are our stories. These are this is our past, this is who we are as Filipinos. And for your international audience, have a look at what we have to offer. See the similarities that we have to the rest of the world. And you will see that world. Kind of close, in on just how similar All of us can be. Right. Glee: Okay. Great. Thank you so much Ray Ray: thank you as well.
33 minutes | Jul 6, 2021
S2E8: Reiki and Holistic Health Ft. Tania Ahkin
Tania Ahkin, a certified holistic health practitioner and hormone coach shares her journey towards holistic health. She shares: - How she became vegan to being plant based - An overview of Reiki - What it means to be mindful - Her tips on how to be holistically healthy, and more! Follow Tania on www.instagram.com/taniaahkin Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6CVL2QD Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: 1. Share to your friends 2. Share on social media 3. Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page 4. Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ANQENUPWKT9JS Transcript: Tania: So Reiki is a universal life force And I know this sounds like really, we re you know, kind of what, what is this? But quantum physics have, discovered that we are energy Glee: Hey Zesties!Welcome to the Gleeful Talk SHow where we share zesty stories to cultivate the happiness. And here within, in this episode, we are going to talk all about holistic health and Reiki. Our guest for today is a certified holistic health practitioner and hormonal coach who incorporates Reiki in the practice of holistic health. She is passionate about inspiring people to live a healthier lifestyle. Please welcome Tanya Alkin. Hi, Tanya. Welcome to the show. Tania: Hi glee. Thank you. Thanks so much for having me. Glee: Thank you for coming in the show and yeah, holistic health. can you talk about what holistic health means? Tania: Yeah, of course. So holistic health is looking at the whole picture of the person. So not only their body, but their mind and their spirit, because that's what we are. We are try beings, mind, body, and spirit. And so we combine those three aspects into the healing modality, as well as a few other things like detox strategies, just simply because of the chemical world we live in. You know, soul work as well. We incorporate functional and herbal medicine to help support the body even further. So yeah, things like that movement, obviously, because yeah. We're not meant to be so sedentary. Glee: Oh, yeah. Great. And when did you start your holistic health journey? Tania: Yeah. So basically I guess I've always been into the natural way of doing things. I haven't always been, you know, clean eating and looking after myself. No, definitely not. But but yeah, you know, it's always been a part of me to do things the natural way first if I can. And so when I had my first daughter, she was around 18 months old and I decided to Really look at the chemicals that were in food, especially packaged food. That that's what I was kind of focusing on. Anything with numbers in them, anything with names that I had no idea what it was. I started to eliminate from my diet and that also included things that I put on my body as well. Like bath and beauty products. Also things like cleaning products, I just. I got rid of it all and I replaced it with natural cleaner and greener products. And so after doing that and feeling like I was ready for the next step in my health journey, I started noticing that there were a lot of people going vegan. And I was really curious as to why, because, you know, we're always taught. We get our calcium from dairy and we get our iron from, meat and, and I thought, well, how can they go vegan and still be healthy? You know? And I looked into it. I literally typed into Google, like, why is everyone going be that's me? Well, like, you know, obviously there was the animal cruelty aspect of veganism which I think we all kind of know that part, but, but yeah, there was also all these health benefits. I was very skeptical about that, but but you know what, I took it in any way and tried to keep an open mind and yeah, the more I started researching into it, the more I thought, oh, I'm really interested in this. Like, it's really sparked my curiosity. And one day I made like a lamb in a sauce for dinner. And I went to go sit down and eat it. And have you ever seen that episode from the Simpsons where Lisa turns vegetarian? Glee: I'm not sure, but I think I saw some episodes before of the Simpsons, but maybe not that specific episode, so yeah. Please enlighten us. Tania: Yeah. So, so um, so yeah, Lisa turns vegetarian. You know, on her plate is like this, this piece of meat. And, in her mind, the piece of meat turns into a little lamb and it's, I think it says something, but I can't remember what the little lamb says. And so that was me at my dinner table looking down, and I just saw the animal that I was about to eat. And I just. I just couldn't do it. You know, it was literally just like that. I can't do it anymore. So I thought, okay I'm trying this out now. So I started off with, you know, a one week challenge that became two weeks. And then after that it became a month and I was like, all right, like, I think I'm doing this now, you know? But yeah, in that time, my symptoms sort of were all over the place. Again, and, I was doubting whether those health benefits were true, but then once, everything settled because I literally changed my diet overnight, you know? Yeah. I started to notice the health benefits. Like my skin got clearer and my bloating reduced. And my period pain pretty much just went away where I used to be buckle down on the, couch with heat pack on, one day, every month. And My energy. That was another huge one as well. My energy increased and I was always very tired and I had been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome as a child. Yeah, I did. I started to notice these amazing benefits. And so I just kept doing the research and studying and reading book after book and on health and wellness spirituality as well as personal development. And and then, mentor, I guess you could say, or someone that I resonated with at the time. Had come out with a coaching certification program and I thought, oh, okay. Not sure if I want to do health coaching, but I love health. And I'm just, you know, devouring as much information as they can. And I just, just want to take it all in, you know? so I thought, okay, well I'll go for it. And yeah, that's where it all started. And I'm still sort of doing the same thing. I still devour, you know all this kind of health, wellness information. Then yeah, just keep going with it. And now I get to see clients and inform them about, you know, how to eat and how to look after yourself in a different sort of way. Glee: When you first realized that you wanted to do this holistic health kind of thing, did you converted right away or was it such a long and tedious process for you to do it? Tania: It actually was easy for me because like you mentioned the part that part that really drove me was the animal welfare, So, when you have something like that backing you up, I think it's really easy to do something. Cause it's almost like you're not just doing it for yourself, but you're doing it for something else as well. That means a lot to you. So. Yeah, to be honest, like no, it, it wasn't difficult for me at all. It was difficult in the way. I was, you know wondering, and very overwhelmed about what to cook each night and what to have to eat, you know, every other day. and things like my cooking skills had to develop in a different way, had to bring out flavor and food in a different way than you would when you rely on animal products, because animal products do have a lot of flavor. So and I'm very into cooking as well. Yeah, that kind of that was a really good challenge. I mean, I loved it, but it was very overwhelming because I did literally changed so much overnight, but yeah, personally I found it really easy with my clients. I don't do it that way because that's the fastest way for people to go, oh, too hard. Can't do it. Not, not doing it anymore. Yeah. And then completely stop everything. And you know, for me, like I choose not to eat animals, not only for health, but also for yeah, animal welfare, but I don't put that on my clients. And I don't judge people either for their choices, like my husband isn't vegan and that doesn't cause any problems for us. So because we respect each other and that's what I try to do with my clients to respect their decision. And also you can still A healthy person and live a healthy lifestyle. If you have a little bit of animal protein at night, for example, like it depends what kind, but but yeah, you know, you don't need to quit that altogether. Glee: Thank you for bringing that up because I think that's, what's maybe some of the misconception, right. Because you know, like, oh, I have to quit it right away. Or if my, maybe my girlfriend is vegan and you know, it may cause some issues . So I'm curious, how do you do it in your household? Tania: Yep. So my husband loves the way I cook. And so he's happy to eat this way at home. And the kids as well, like they're very little, so they don't really get much of it at this stage. Yeah. But yes. My husband eats the way that we all eat at home. And then when he's out, he, he can choose. But he often finds himself choosing something with more plants anyway, because he feels better. He can now feel the difference between when he eats a heavier meal that's full of animal products, which is high in fat too, when he eats, predominantly plant-based. Yeah. Feels like he's got more energy and stuff. So That's how we work Glee: Also with vegan, just so that I'm also across this, cause there's a vegetarian and there's there is vegan, right? So what's the difference between the two. Tania: Yep. So vegan is all animal products. So that, that includes like the flesh the dairy, the eggs even honey. So I don't even, honey. Yeah. I don't call myself vegan because I used to, and that's how I started, but I don't anymore because now I do consume honey. So I call myself plant-based but you know, it's just a label it's I don't really like using them, but it's sometimes It's easier for people to understand, like what you're saying when you just label it and then they kind of know, but yeah, that's veganism and then veganism is also to take it a step further where you don't wear wool or purchasing any products or anything from an animal like leather which is from cow. So it's you know, it spreads out. Yeah. To that as well. Whereas vegetarian is only animal flesh. You don't consume and you still have dairy and eggs. And then there's so many labels. Then there's people that just eat fish, but don't eat. Animal other animal flesh, but still eat dairy and eggs. So it's very, there's so many things pescatarian. Yeah, yeah, Glee: I don't know if you've seen it, but I, I didn't see the whole episode, but there's this Seaspiracy episode documentary in Netflix, about eating all just fish or sea products and how it's not good for the environment. So I haven't seen that documentary, but there was something like that. And there's this, episode or documentary in Netflix about veganism, as well know if you have seen it? Tania: Is that the one about like it's targeted at men? Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that one. Yeah. I forgot what it's called, but yeah, I have seen that one. Glee: Yes, I've seen it, but it's just so hard for me to go vegan, but I still care about enemas or give your own, but it's just hard to do all vegan. Tania: We, we all care about animals, you know, that's how, how we are. We all are. It's. you're ready to take that step or not. Or, some people have blocks in the way that, that doesn't allow that to happen and that's okay. We're all on our own journey and there's no right or wrong. It's just how you feel, want to live your life. Glee: Yeah, thank you for opening that up because yeah, it's good that, people are not judging each other on whether they are vegan or not or something. And about the household, so you, they cook like only olive oil on your, on your dishes? Tania: Yeah. But I actually don't use oils. Very rarely do I. Yeah. Do I cook with oils? Not at all now. Maybe I might put some in baking, but not really. I always try. Get like the healthiest version of something that I can, so, yeah. W one of the things that I love to do actually, and to challenge myself with is to get those, unhealthy kind of recipes and make them into really healthy ones. So I hardly ever use oil anymore. Oh yeah. Thank you. Like as in, do you mean if a recipe normally uses oil and then okay. Yeah, probably cakes. I find like a lot of baking, you know, in cakes, they, they have oil in them to kind of yeah. Make them taste better, I guess. But yeah, I try not to use, it. Glee: So, and in cakes, so we don't use swing sweetener at all, right. Or Stevie or something. Tania: Yeah, just use a natural sugar. So either coconut sugar, bananas, maple syrup I don't really use honey in baking. Those are the three ones I use for sweeteners. Yeah. Glee: Interesting. Tania: Yeah. So it's really easy once you know how to replace, what to replace, what with, you know? Glee: You've mentioned earlier that the holistic health includes the spirit. What does a spiritual person mean to you? Tania: Well, I believe that we're all spiritual because we all have a spirit, but I sort of, I know what you're what you're saying with your question. So I guess I would say awareness and open-mindedness and yeah, I think those are the two main ones, Glee: So personally, how do you practice the awareness and mindfulness? Perhaps you could give some tips for our Zesties? Tania: Yeah, sure. So one of my favorite ones that I've been doing is to choose your state of being before you go somewhere. Do something. So normally we're always on autopilot and that's how we create our lives through our subconscious, throughout the, you know, through the autopilot way. And but instead when you decide that you're going to choose how you want to show up, you start to consciously create your life. And and that's sort of how I, practice. A lot of my spiritual practices is not really just sitting in meditation, going like home and trying to silence my mind. That's that doesn't really work for me. And so I try to find other ways to include mindfulness into my day. So that's sort of how I go about it. Glee: Yeah. How do you typically go about your day or what's your typical day? Like. Tania: Yeah. So, well now we're in lockdown, so it's changed again. So it's, yeah, it's it's a bit up and down, but yeah, at the moment in lockdown, it's a bit easier because I'm just at home, so I can really look after myself a bit better. So I try to wake up a little bit earlier before my girls, but that normally doesn't really happen. I'm trying to get into that routine though. And I always start my day with kind of checking in with spirit, I guess, and starting off that way, I'm setting my intentions for the day. So choosing my state of being I do that and I try to think ahead about what I've got planned and try. choose how I want to show up that day. And then yeah, if my girls haven't woken up yet, I'll either do one of the medical medium meditation's he is a really well known in the health and wellness space and he's got some meditations out that really help with different ones, like with emotional struggles, cleansing and clearing the body. So, yeah. Sometimes I do one of his meditations or or yeah, I'll do some self Reiki as well. So I'll yeah, Reiki myself pretty much depends what I feel like and how much time I have after that my eldest daughter gets herself ready, so that's all good. I get my little one ready. For the day and then get their breakfast. And while I'm doing that, I have a big jar of lemon water. And so I drink one liter of lemon water before anything. And yeah, and then while they're eating, I start to make my celery juice. So that's also another leader of celery juice on an empty stomach. So before I. Consume anything. I take my supplements and then yeah, often like my girls will want me to play with them or, you know, they'll want some attention from me. So we'll go and do that. and then, yeah, I try to do some yoga at home hop in the shower after that have some breakfast, which is always I always do a morning cleanse. So pretty much always anyway, there's a very few times that I don't, but I, consume blended watermelon or that's when it's, not that fresh now that it's winter here. It's not as nice, so I kind of just blend it up and then it still tastes good. Of watermelon or smoothies or just, yeah. Persimmons are in season at the moment and they're one of my favorite fruits. Yeah. Do you know the persimmon? Yeah. But I think I haven't eaten. I'm not sure. Or maybe I've eaten, but . Wasn't memorable for me, I guess I'm obsessed with them. So I literally have been buying them by the box and just, you know yeah. Mano mailing on that. So so yeah, either, yeah. Have a a fruit based breakfast. Glee: That's what I wanted to say as well. Like all the things you've mentioned you've done before breakfast was like all fruits and veggies, like celery. Tania: Yeah. So that's sort of what I do. that's kind of, how my morning routine looks and then the day can kind of go anywhere, really? Whether we have to go out or yeah. Or play with my girls homeschooling at the moment. So help my daughter with that. And then yeah, normally, yeah, I'll make a simple lunch for them and I just kind of eat whatever, really, if I feel like making lunch, I really, if I don't, I just eat fruit all day. Glee: I just wanted to ask as well. You mentioned Reiki. So what is Reiki and how does it work? Tania: Yeah, sure. So Reiki is a universal life force And I know this sounds like really, we re you know, kind of what, what is this? But quantum physics have, discovered that we are energy that we're like, I don't know what the amount is, but it's like 99 point something percent energy. So I like to think of Reiki as the highest form of, of energy, which is love and So. the practitioner will channel that, that highest, pure energy into their body and through their hands. And then we use our intuition and intention to place our hands on or near the recipient's body down the chakras and you know, other areas of the body. To Promote healing in whatever way. The recipient needs and whatever way that spirit thinks that the recipient needs healing. Glee: All right. I heard about this lineage in Reiki, correct me if I'm wrong. Like, is it like passed down from the master, to the students or something like that? Tania: Yeah, it is. So Dr. Usui was the creator and originator of Reiki. And so that's pretty much who I studied. I studied his teachings through my teacher and then it kind of just goes up the ladder to Dr. Usui again, that's pretty much what the lineage is. Glee: Right. And so you mentioned that the Reiki treatment is given through the hands. Is it only through the hands or maybe? I don't know, like other forms as well. Tania: Yeah, I mean, I, I was taught the Usui method, like we mentioned and that's through hands. It's also using symbols as well, which are sacred and very powerful symbols. different symbols have different things that they do, like powering up or transcending time emotional balance. So it depends what we pick up on as well, intuitively what the recipient is needing. Then we can send through that as well. And that can just give it, give that energy, that loving energy boost. Glee: And how does it feel like, for example, if you do self Reiki, how do you feel afterwards? If you could share with us? Tania: So I guess it kind of depends on everyone. And I've had a few Reiki sessions myself you know, before studying it as well. And yeah, each time was a little bit different for me as well, but generally you find people feel more relaxed yeah. Stress just melts. And lighter, like a sense of just feeling like, you know, just this heavy load, just being, you know, taken off you. Which feels really weird. Like the first time I had it done a few years ago I think she used a different method with Reiki, so it wasn't what I've been taught, but I was thinking, why is she doing, you know, Like, oh, this doesn't seem right. And this is weird and this is probably like a waste of time and money. And then I, I left there and it was like, I just had this spring in my step and I was like, I feel like something's just being taken off me. So yeah. It's I know it's a very kind of yeah, like I said, a ruru kind of topic. Like that, but but it works, you know, really works. Glee: Yeah. I think someone just have to experience it because we just described it and like, I haven't done any Reiki sessions, but you know, like someone would just really need to experience it to say what it feels like. Tania: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It is something like that. Yeah. The open-mindedness to kind of give something like that ago, because yeah. It is really different to what, we're used to hearing. Glee: can it also be administered through online or it needs to be like really physically in the presence of the teacher, because right now I know there's social distancing in lockdown and it's quite hard to do it. Tania: Yeah, no, we can do Reiki. We call it distant Reiki. You're absent Reiki, right? So there's, there's a couple of ways you can do that too. You can literally do it. Like I could be, you know, giving you Reiki now, like over our call or you can go about your day and I can set time as the practitioner to send it to you while you're just going about your day. That's not really the way I like to do it because often people. If you're not sensitive to energy and you haven't had it before, you wouldn't even know that it's happened and then you'll miss it. And you'll be like, oh, this was like a waste. So yeah, I'd rather kind of set up, like I would another session and have the recipient, lie down like you would in person and, go through it in real time. Glee: What was the most heartwarming comment that you've received from your clients? Tania: Yeah, one client, she was really struggling with, stress and having that knot in your stomach and just tension all over the body and not being able to kind of move through that on her own. And and yet after our session she said she just, she felt that knot just melt away you know, her shoulders had you know, had relaxed the pain in her hips had gone. And yeah, she just felt a lot more relaxed and calm and not stressed anymore. So that was a really nice one because sometimes it doesn't work that way. Like if you've got a lot of stuff going on, I've found if you're like very heavy with emotional baggage at that time sometimes like you can, yeah, definitely go through waves of feeling really good and then dropping again and feeling really good and then getting really tired. And that can go on for a while. Normally, you know, people do feel. They're best afterwards with a few like dips in energy and mood. And that only lasts a few days, but yeah, if you are carrying a lot and it's really heavy stuff, I have found that it can take a bit longer and you can have a stronger kind of cleansing you know, detoxing sort of effects. Glee: Is it like the teacher passes on the loving energy to the student or the practitioner passes on their energy to the recipient. Tania: Yes, but not, they're not the practitioner's energy. It's, it's like pure energy from spirit, from source, from the universe, from God, from the light, whatever you want to call it. It's. Yeah. So the, the practitioner is not the one that's getting drained and using her or his energy. And it's not like that. No, we channel that energy. So we just become a vessel for it. Glee: Yeah, that's great. Cause at first I was perplexed on how the energy gets being passed on. But thank you for clearing that up. I just have a quick question about balancing hormones, because I know you're also a hormone coach. So how do you incorporate like, or any best practices for fertility preparation? Tania: Yes. Yeah. So I guess using those key components that, I mentioned a little bit about before, along with others that I think I didn't mention like food as medicine as well. Yeah. Supplements. Yeah. So we use all that in helping the woman balance, hormonally, but there's a lot of mindset stuff that comes with preconception and fertility. So we would use things like that tools that we have there. And then, women that are suffering from things like PCOS and endometriosis and you know, fibroids and, and yeah. Infertility as well. They're feeling like their body is broken. it's really sad and they feel like their body has given up on them. And the thing I guess, that I really want to say about that is that think about like, would your body ever do that to you? Like, would it ever go against you and try to harm you? Like when you really break it down and think about that? The answer is no, like your body would never do that. Yeah. It wants to live, you know, it's a living thing and it's always trying to do the very best it can for you. And so if there's something going on, if you have symptoms and conditions, it's not your body's fault, it's not your body attacking itself or your genes. It's, environment. It's, something else that's going on. That's really, what I try to do is get to the root cause of what is going on hormonally so we can not put band-aids over it and try and mask it, but instead, use the holistic methods to try and heal naturally. Glee: And so it could go on for like how many months of preparation. Tania: I mean, a lot of people say, you know, minimum three months, three to six months, but, I like to say as soon as you can, if you know that you've always wanted to have a baby or one day then I would start as soon as you can because everybody heals in a different timeframe and it also depends on how much damage has been done and what your toxin load is. As to how long it will take. If you've been on the pill and things like that. So yeah. I really just like to just say, yeah, as soon as you can, if you feel ready to take that step, then yeah. Let's do it, you know, Glee: And it just got me thinking when you mentioned about the pill. So just a curious question. So as much as possible we shouldn't take, or we shouldn't use the pill because it's not natural. Is it something like that? Tania: Yeah. So anything, any prescription medication that you take always come with side effects? Always. Yeah. So actually the pill doesn't give you a real period. It's it's a fake one. And the hormones that are in the pill. Yeah. Overriding your body's natural rhythm. So everything kind of just gets muddled up. And yeah, for some people like myself, when I came off the pill, it was fine. Like I went back to having a normal period you know, every month straight away, but that's not the case for a lot of women as well. Like they can go a year or more without it. The pill is pretty much just masked that those symptoms that were happening before, but because they might've been on the pill for so long their body has become burdened with toxins and, just from that other things as well which then their symptoms, they get off the pill and their symptoms are a whole lot worse and they're like, oh, what's happened. But it's because it's been hidden for so long. Glee: Yeah. Even like me when I was like a bit of long ago when I didn't come to Australia yet. So I was using pills because I was so stressed and I didn't have, my period just didn't come for like some, several months. So I went on pills and it really got me depressed. Like I feel that it has contributed more to my stress levels for some reason. Like I easily get sad and my mood is. Always down. So So I could attest to that pill situation. Tania: I think most women can, if you know, because we kind of just stay on it. Don't we, we just, yeah. Glee: 'Cause you know know is recommended by the doctor and you just want it to be there. You know, like you just want the quick way and you know, going on holidays, you don't want it, your period, all that kind of stuff. Tania: Yeah. And that's the reality and, you know that's how society has made us think that, you know, we have to hide it. It's shameful thing, but that's a whole another story, you know? Yeah. Glee: Yeah. So before we wrap up, what are your top tips on the journey to becoming holistically healthy? Tania: Yeah. So I'm eating an abundance of live foods and drinking an abundance of live water. What else following your intuition? That's another one and following and doing what it says, like going for it. So not just yeah, not just kind of listening, but also following. Yeah. Yeah. And trusting it because that, the brave part that takes, that takes a lot of bravery sometimes. And then, yeah, like I mentioned before, I think choosing your state of being so setting intentions before you do anything. And seeing what happens with that. Glee: Great. So I have some few fun questions for you before we wrap up. So are you ready? All right. What superhero or villain would make the best therapist for you? What do you think? Tania: Oh, I would say for here is out there they all kinds of about violence aren't they? Which is something that I'm not into. They all kind of fight, which it's not really my thing. Glee: Have a lead character on the movie or a TV character. Tania: Ah, okay. That would be the best therapist. the first thing that sort of came to mind was yeah, Frozen 2 you know Elsa from frozen. Yeah. Like I don't, I don't know if she'd make a good therapist, but maybe she would because in the second one, you know, she goes through this journey of finding herself and she does, lives out her destiny, if you want to call it or her calling her true, path, you know, she lives that out. And so. Yeah, I think, I think that would make a good therapist because of sort of Been there and done that and then can then now kind of help someone else follow their path too. Glee: Awesome. And another one, what mythical creature would improve the world the most? If it existed. I'm coming up with very odd questions, but Tania: a mythical creature. Okay. Well, the thing is, there's a lot of mythical creatures that I believe are real, so it kind of eliminates a lot in your head. Let's let's think. Maybe angels. They're very powerful. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't call them mythical Glee: And so where can our zest, these find you? Tania: Oh, thank you. So Yeah, my Instagram handle is @tonyaahkin, T a N I A A H K I N. And I share my recipes there because I love cooking. And like we said, I like making those unhealthy versions of dishes healthier. And so you don't feel like you're missing out, you know, I've also got a free recipe ebook that you can download there too. Yeah, that's where you'll find me. My email is just email@example.com. Glee: Okay. Great. Great. Thank you so much, Tanya, for gracing the show. It was so wonderful to have you. Tania: Oh, thank you, Glee. Thanks so much for having me. It was really nice. I like your fun questions at the end. They were good. I have questions, but anyway, it's to spice things up. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, no, it's great.
28 minutes | Jun 29, 2021
S2E7: Have You Dated Someone From A Different Culture? Ft. Lawin
Relationship topics are fascinating and entertaining at the same time. This episode circles around the topic of interracial dating, where Lawin of Pop Your Cultural Cherry, speaks about his thoughts and experiences around this topic. We'll hear about: - How he met his partner - Did he had pre-dispositions about dating someone from a different culture - How did they manage to harmonize any cultural differences to make the relationship work - and more! Follow Pop Your Cultural Cherry: www.instagram.com/popyourculturalcherry https://www.facebook.com/popyourculturalcherry/ Available on all major podcasting platforms Do you have interesting stories about how you met your partner? Contact the show at firstname.lastname@example.org or send me a DM on the following social accounts: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: - Share to your friends - Share on social media - Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page - Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ANQENUPWKT9JS Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6CVL2QD Transcript: Lawin: Cause I know people in the Philippines also. Who also are like this. I don't think it's a matter of race or where you're from. It's just Filipino guys are just better in hiding it. Glee: hey Zesties! Welcome to the Gleeful Talk Show where we share the stories to cultivate the happiness and hero with it. This episode is just a general chat about dating, particularly with someone from a different culture. There are several layers to this topic and it sits close to my heart because I'm married to someone from a different culture. So I am curious about what others' experiences are, and I might be sharing some of my experience , in other upcoming episodes soon. My guest for today is a fellow podcaster who is currently based in Germany and runs the podcast. Pop your cultural cherry, which aims to give its listeners a unique perspective of life in Europe with an Asian or Filipino twist, please welcome Lawin. Hi, Lawin welcome to the show. Lawin: Hello. Thank you for having me. Glee: Thank you. I know that you're currently in Germany and you have found your love life there. So today we would dig in a little bit more on your love life and your insights to share for Zesties. And of course, feel free to ask some of the things that you'd like to know as well Lawin: Okay. Glee: so may I ask where and how did you meet. Lawin: Yeah. So 2017 I started to do my masters, my MBA in the Netherlands. It was in a small city near the German border called Maastricht. It is one of the most popular students cities in, in Netherlands and Netherlands is not a big country and they have maybe like, I don't know, a dozen students cities, and I was in one of them, which was close to the German border. Probably four months, four or five months after I started, I met my current girlfriend Jenny she at the time was working in that city. So. What happened was I was a student, but she was working for a German company, but in the Netherlands. So the company that she was working for is a very big like automobile company, a German automobile company, which is nothing special because there are dozens of German, automobile companies. But she was living there for. A couple of months already. And basically what happened was as I was studying. And she was working, there were, there are a couple of events that happened in the city. So these events are actually international organizations. Have these sponsor, these events, and one of these organizations is called InterNations. I don't know if you're familiar with that, Glee: I am familiar with it. Yeah. Lawin: Yeah. there's a lot of InterNations chapters or branches all over the world in different cities. So I attended this Internations event and She also attended the same international has been, it was both of our first times to attend an InterNations event. I went to the InterNations event because I was a student there, I didn't really get to interact with a lot of people who. Like in the workforce, in the labor force, people who are working. So I thought it would be a good way to network. At that time I was also single. So, you know, maybe meet some interesting people as well, meet some interesting girls. And that's what kind of happened then there's so at that time she was also single, so it was a good probably like a good, a good match. So, in the beginning I was talking to different people and then I met her we spoken. Yeah. Eventually we kind of clicked and then I got her number and then one thing led to another and yeah, this is how our stories kind of started. Glee: Mm. Interesting. So, did you kind of court her in the traditional Filipino way? Lawin: Okay. Actually, no, I never follow this traditional Filipino way of courting. Every, since I was young, I've not had that many, that many girlfriends, but I also grew up in a very liberal house So yeah, also, also the people around me never had this kind of way of courting girls like the traditional Filipino way of, you know what's the traditional Filipino way, like really being super romantic, going through a lot of phases of dating, meeting the parents before, you know, you actually get serious. that's not how I've stated in the past. And yeah, also because you're in the new country, I was, we're not in the Philippines. We were in we were both in, foreign countries to ours. And I thought that, you know, I would kind of see how, you know, people do it in Europe because it's obviously very different from how people would do it in the Philippines. And I just decided to. Be very open and liberal about it. So to see kind of where it goes, how it goes without really setting for myself, like, oh, we must go through X number of dates before you know, we can get serious or whatever. Or I should get to know her parents before, we have our relationship or whatever, because we're both actually we're the same age. So we were both what, 27 at that time or something 28. So. I think when you reach a certain age and also at the same time, you're both live in living in foreign countries. It kind of makes sense already not to be so traditional in that sense. Glee: Yeah. Yeah did she know some Filipinos before you or some friends Lawin: Yeah. Actually. Yes. And no. So in general, like in this part of Europe, there's not a lot of Filipino people. There's not a big Filipino community. She had one neighbor who was from the Philippines. So actually I've met them already. So she knew one person, but they didn't really have any relationship. She didn't have any friends. She had like zero contact with other Filipino people. So I was more or less the first kind of Really got to know. Glee: before, did you have any like hesitations about dating outside Filipino nationalities? Lawin: Okay. Actually, no, because I think my first girlfriend was not Filipino, so, so she was, she was an ex-pat living in Japan, so she was actually my first girlfriend and I think I was 22 maybe. And. So basically my history of dating has pretty much been very international to that sense. I haven't had, as I mentioned, I didn't have a lot of girlfriends, but I've gone on dates with a lot of people from different countries. Personally, I find this more interesting also, because if you're from Manila, you did somebody from, and then obviously I've also had a good friend from Manila and dated other people from Manila. There's always like Manila is a very. Small place, always some connections is people kind of think the same way you have the same aspirations you have the same culture. Probably because you're from Cebu, it might be a bit different, but I mean, probably if you dated somebody from Cebu, you'd have the same kind of idea that, you know, the circles are always like integrated somehow. And I don't know if, for me to some extent. It's nice. Cause it's, it's comfortable for you, but at the same time, it's not that exciting. So I've always, also kind of liked to date outside of, of the Filipino race. Glee: interesting because me, so I've only dated. a non- Filipino, which is my husband now because I had some hesitations before, so, and I grew up in a conservative household and although I have aunts. who have married non Filipino men. So they're now living in one is in Vienna and one is in the us as well. but I didn't really thought about dating a non Filipino guy for some reason. Lawin: Why? Why is there any, what's the hesitation about? Is it something to do? Is it just because they're different or? Glee: I, I think I had this stereotype and twisted thinking before, you know, like in the movies, you know, the white men are, not that faithful in the Hollywood movies. Lawin: Okay. Glee: So I feel like you shouldn't watch too much Hollywood movies because you will have a different or twisted thinking. So. So that's what I felt before in some people who dated. ex-pats who are in the Philippines and then they, they different Filipinos, right. The men and, they, date different women. So I heard some not so good stories. So that was, that formed my initial Yeah. Lawin: but I think to some extent, yes, because that's what you see in the movies. But I think Filipino guys are just better in hiding it. Cause I know people in the Philippines also. Who also are like this. I don't think it's a matter of race or where you're from. It's just, I think Filipino guys are better at hiding it. Then you see it nowadays, like in, you know, in Filipino drama on TV. Like also like guys also, obviously, also not just guys, but also girls. So it's, I think it's the same anywhere. Glee: Yeah, I totally agree with that. That it really doesn't depend on the nationality or culture, but it depends on the person. It's just that at that time, I wasn't really exposed. I was just in Cebu for the whole. years of my life. And then I moved to Dubai afterwards. then the whole thinking just, you know, changed. But yeah, that was like weird. Lawin: Yeah, can understand. Glee: So you didn't have any like pre predispositions of foreign nationalities and no changes on your perceptions before, because you know, you've dated different nationalities already, even when you were like in your early twenties. Lawin: Yeah. So while I was in the Philippines. I've gone on dates with people from other nationalities, but they were mostly also Asian. And I think like Asian to Asian, the differences is not so big, but obviously Asian to European, the difference is it's quite big and it's still, I can still see it, but honestly, I'm the type of person who likes experiencing different things more than comfortable things. So I like, I like it. That me and my girlfriend, they're very different from each other. But in terms of predisposition towards, I don't know, German people or European women, like I actually did not have any. Predisposition. So I came into, you know, Europe without really having any bias or prejudice. So I always have an, had a, like an open mind about things. Obviously you hear from media, from watching movies that, you know, It might be possible that they're not as hygienic as Filipino people, but obviously that would also depend from person to person. I think there's some truth to it. But obviously it's not everybody is like that. I don't know. I dunno if I couldn't see like the average Filipino person or the average Filipino girl is more hygienic. Like, I dunno, they take more care of themselves in terms of hygiene or appearance or whatever. I don't know if, if that's correct thing to say, but from my observation, it, it could be very Possible, but obviously again, case to case basis. But besides that also I had this idea that they're very open-minded, which I like, because I'm obviously, I'm also very open-minded as I come from a like liberal background. And so I was always open to whoever, I had no idea that, oh, I should date a certain person from a certain race because this race has X features that I like, or because most people from this area are like this. No, I just, well, whoever I meet and if they're a nice person, if we can get along, it doesn't really matter. So people should be able to love whoever they want and be with every, with whoever they want. And obviously there will be predispositions built because of watching too many movies, listening to too many people. But I think part of the enjoyment of the whole process is just getting to know, you know, different people. Glee: Yes. I totally agree with that. And let's say for example, Person who was just like in the city, like I was before. So they don't form that wide horizon in themselves. And then, and then if you watch these movies, then you have like this type of thinking. So it's, which is like also not too wide. Right. So, and with the hygiene as well, I also heard about that that maybe because of the weather as. Lawin: Yeah. Glee: It's very cold, but yeah. Good thing as well, that it is person to person. So I'm glad that my husband is hygienic. So, Lawin: Yeah. Glee: so and then also me, I have some predispositions before, like what I've mentioned earlier and also I'm so lazy in trying Like, I feel that if I speak in English in a relationship, like I couldn't express myself that much. That was my thinking before, but I didn't try that. Yeah, that was my initial concern that, oh, if I will be in a relationship, I have to speak English all the time, Lawin: Yeah. Glee: but we're thinking, right. But I think some of the Filipinos also have that same thinking. So, but like when you are in the relationship or when you love that person, you, you tend to be more open, as you said, said, and you tend to of course do that much effort in order to communicate with them. Yeah. Well for you, obviously, if you love that person, obviously you have already, the certain understanding and words is just one way of communicating, but there's so many other ways to communicate with your partner, but at the same time, you could also learn Hungarian or you can teach your husband Bisaya. So Yeah. He, he, he has learned some words as well, but Hungarian language is quite hard to. Lawin: I heard it's one of the hardest languages in the world, I think, or in Europe at least Glee: Yeah, it's quite hard. So, and he said that, oh, just don't learn Hungarian. Like nobody speaks Hungarian in Australia, Lawin: Yeah. Glee: That's a difficulty because when you know, meeting the parents, so when I met his mother, it was hard. Cause I need a translator. Lawin: Yeah. You need him all the Glee: Yeah. Yeah. And how about you? So how did your family felt when they met Jenny Lawin: Yeah. So 2009 December, when you went back after the Philippines for Christmas she was with me and she obviously she met. my family. The thing is the good thing is that my girlfriend actually speaks very fluent English, so they didn't have any problems communicating. And at the same time, my family, everyone can speak English to a very high level. So. Well, there wasn't any problems in terms of communication. And I think also my mom really like my family liked her. She's a nice person and knows how to adapt to different situations. So honestly there was no issues there and she also, she also liked her stay. And actually most of the time that we were in the Philippines, we were just in my mom's place. We didn't actually do a lot of sightseeing. Like I kind of feel bad for her because I brought it to a few places, but not enough because I also wanted to catch up with a lot of my friends and family. But yeah. Yeah, she, she enjoyed it and people liked her. I didn't get any, you know, racist comments or whatever that, oh, why are you dating somebody? Who's not Filipino and. Could be possible that, that that happens in some very conservative, traditional families. But for us it was it's good. And at the same time I had the same experience when I was with her family. So although only one person in her whole family can speak English. Besides her that I'm slowly learning German. My German is not so bad, so It's getting better and better communication. But I think so far, her family likes me. They give me, they've been giving me a lot of presents. So I think that's a positive sign if they give you some presence every now and then. So yeah, Glee: Nice. And so do you speak German in your household with Lawin: her, no, no, because. When we met, we only spoke English because we were both not living in Germany. And it was just like, it was just fate. That kind of led me to work in Germany. So actually I moved back to Germany before she moved back to Germany. So for some time we were living in separate countries but just across the border. So it's, it's a bit strange to, to imagine, but it's not so far from each other, but in different countries. learned German because I got the job here. But because we met in the Netherlands and we started our relationship in English, we kind of just continued in that, that direction. Glee: Hmm. Lawin: yeah, I mean, my also her English is way better than my German and I don't think I'll ever catch up to her level of English with my level of German. So until I catch up, probably we would, would not switch to German, but when, when we're with her family or some friends, even just outside the apartment, because in public, you have to speak kind of German with the people outside. So then, then we do speak German. Glee: So speaking of communication, so what were for you, the differences in communicating or the communication style? Lawin: Yeah. So you know, these like languages of love. Glee: Yes. Lawin: Have you ever, have you ever taken this test? Glee: Yeah. Lawin: I think she's a very gifts person and I'm a very time, time Glee: Mm. Lawin: So we have very different love languages, but I don't think. For me that matters. Like I said, like, I really like differences. So the more different you are, I think the more interesting our relationship. But Yeah. in terms of communication. Yeah, we're very open to each other. And I think as long as you can keep, you can be open to each other and you'll have less and less problems. Glee: And how did you harmonize the differences? As you mentioned, you liked the differences. So how did you , because sometimes, you know, it might be a miscommunication. So how were you able to harmonize. Lawin: right. I think the first step is always to have like an open mind. So whenever you're with anybody, regardless, if they share the same beliefs of you or not, Obviously the people who don't share the same beliefs with you, you'd always have some kind of conflict, but you should always like have an open mind. So I try never to really impose some things on her, even though, you know, in the Philippines, this is the way it should be. But. I never tried to impose that. And I just tried to learn why know, your partner or other people do things that, that a specific way, that's not the same as, you know, you were taught or that, you know and it's just. Being, and having an open mind and trying not to impose anything on other people try to learn also like why people do things in certain ways. And, and honestly, you might be shocked that there might, they might have actually a point and the way that they, they do things. Glee: Mm. So it's really just understanding where you differ and you, work from there because if we don't understand that difference, then it's like, we are perplexed right. Like why? Like we cannot accept it because we don't understand. Lawin: Yeah, exactly. I think first step is always, admitting that we are different and then trying to understand why we are different and then maybe looking at, these differences. Does it really make sense to do things one specific way or does it make sense to do things separate ways? And I think there could be a merit also in doing things differently, just because, your family or your parents or your society told you it's a specific way. I mean, there's so many different ways of doing it that, you know, maybe it just wasn't considered before and you might actually learn something new or you might even adapt that other person's beliefs or that person's way of doing things. So one thing that really upsets me in Europe is actually when you go out on to restaurants or, at home, when you have food. People actually throw a lot of food away. Like, Glee: Yeah. Lawin: They don't maximise, like, for example, there's some left over the, throw it away and you go to a restaurant normally in the Philippines, if there's something left over, you take it home. Right. You ask if you can take it to them here, it's quite normal to just have them throw it away. And this is something that I really fight for it like no. We ordered, we should finish it. Or if we have the scan of food, we should make sure that we cook it before it expires or not, never waste, never waste food. And obviously, in the beginning they don't understand this concept so much. Until, you know, you, you take them to the Philippines and they realize. Oh yeah. It's because there's a lot of people who don't actually have food and, by making sure. We don't have so much waste then maybe our society can like produce just enough, you know, and, and enough for us and, you know, and offer for everybody. And not because there's waste, just having the idea of having waste. There's such a, you know, in Filipino families, your mom will always get mad at you dad. Like, no, you should finish all your food before you leave the table. So these kinds of things. Yeah. Obviously this is one idea. That's really, I think there's only one right. Answer to that. It's not having waste, but at the same time, you know, when I came here, you, you notice that there's a very different way of viewing this. It's not like she fought me or people from here fought me over my belief, but it's just that we had very different beliefs. And that's one thing that I tried to impose on her is try to be more careful with, you know, with food. Glee: I could relate to that as well, because I have the same thinking, you know, because Philippines. Lawin: Yeah. Glee: Right. So my husband always says, don't make yourself too fat if you cannot really eat it. cause you know, women, we always like, oh, I'm getting too fat. I'm getting I'm gaining weight. And then, and then he always says that then why you eat The food that you can't even take anymore. And then that you, brings the on more weight. So that's his thinking about the food. If you cannot eat it all, then don't eat it because otherwise it will be bad for you. so what are your top tips for interracial couples? Lawin: Oh, wow. Okay. Top tip, obviously open mind, just having an open mind, as I already mentioned try not to think a certain way is correct and just, you know, be open to learning something new always, and that would make your relationship more exciting. I think this is true for any relationship, not just for interracial couples, but don't, don't try to adapt yourself too much to that. Person's like, so you might, for example I might be in Germany. I might try to be as German as I can. Just because I know that's, that would make my, my girlfriend more comfortable. But honestly, like you should just be yourself. Don't forget to be yourself. And I think that's, you know, that's the reason they're with you because you're different. It's probably not because I look Filipino, but they act like a German person, but they're with you because you're a very different person and probably that's, that's what they like about you. So I see a lot of people, you know, who come here and they. No, of course, it's nice to get the culture, but always try to maintain, you know, your identity and your true personality. And I think that, you shouldn't forget about that. So that's something I do. although I am trying to learn the language I'm getting. To know the culture better, but at the same time, I'll never kind of change myself and I have to be more like more German. That's not, that's not going to happen. So I think for relationships, those are important points. I'd say another important point also is to maintain kind of, well, for me, this is important. I don't know how you find it, but It's also important for you to make sure that your partner also gets included in your culture. So even though for example, you're you're in Australia. But your husband has his own thing with his friends on WhatsApp or his own thing with his family, you know, little and little by little try to involve the person with the, with what's happening. So actually, Same thing with my, girlfriend when we have, when I have some zoom events even though it's sometimes in Tagalog or in Filipino, I still invite her so that she, she can feel that like she's part of that thing of that thing. So I think that small things that, that could help Yeah. strengthened the relationship. Also try to teach her a little bit of Tagalog, but it's hard. Glee: yes, like retaining your individuality. So it's really, I mean, not only interracial couples, as you've said, I certainly with that because some people might lose themselves in the relationship. Right. And then that becomes toxic and all. And also if I may add, it's Springs on the same way as like the communication. So emphasize that there is a difference, but do not assume that they know the difference and then like, do not suffer in silence. Like, we're different than I'm not telling that person that there is a difference so do not suffer in silence. And for me, I think the person on equal grounds. This, this is for me because, you know, I didn't date any other non Filipinos. at first I was very like shy, I would think that because of the, maybe the colonial mentality so that's why I succumbed to the ways of that mentality. but if we remain as we are, like, we will be the same person as they would have liked us in the first one. Yeah, exactly. so before we wrap up this episode, so I have some few questions unrelated to the topic. are you ready? Lawin: Go ahead. Glee: So if you could be in a movie, what would it be? Lawin: If I could be in the movie, what would it be? That's hard. Glee: Really Lawin: if I could be in the movie,I'd pick all right. Series or a TV series, let's say. No, let me pick a movie. I know a movie, I know a movie. I just thought about it right now. Slumdog millionaire, Slumdog millionaire, because I have a lot of life experiences that I think are very exciting and very life changing. that, if I had to join like a game show, hopefully those questions are some of the things that I've experienced in my life. And I could answer. would be cool movie with and that I'd be rich in the end. Glee: Yeah. Nice. Lawin: that's the most important part. Glee: Yeah. Yes, exactly. So next what was your favorite TV show when you were growing up? Lawin: What, okay. Favorite TV show. I I'd say I have two favorite TV shows growing up. One is anime slam dunk slam dunk, because I used to play basketball when I was, in grade school, in high school. because the main kind of the Sakuragi is not very Talented, but through hard work, he became like a good player. So I always thought that I'm not that good. I'm just maybe if I work hard enough, I'll be very good. But I ended up being that very good, just like enough to be in the school team, but not more than that. And then another show that I really loved growing up? Has has something to do as well with with, with basketball is one tree hill. You watched One Tree Hill? Glee: Uh, Yeah, I noticed didn't watch Lawin: it series, but yeah, I'd say more Slam Dunk growing up. Glee: Ah, nice. So next Would you rather walk around with a salad for a head or a broccoli for arms? Lawin: Wow. Salad for a head probably. If I had broccoli as arms, there are a lot of things in life I won't be able to do, but if I have salad as a head, I can still do some sports. And, and because, because in general, I think a lot of girls like being healthy, they like salad, therefore with a face as a salad, like I'd still be attractive to some girls. Glee: Nice. Lawin: Okay. Glee: Nice one nice one. So, all right. So where can our Zesties is fin Lawin: Yeah. So I have a podcast glee mentioned in the beginning called Pop Your Cultural Cherry. So I'm on Spotify, apple podcasts, Google podcasts, and all the other like main podcasts streaming platforms. I also have an Instagram and a Facebook page. You can just search me, Pop Your Cultural Cherry the name's quite unique. And if you'd search it, I'm the only one. My show is the only one gonna show up. So, yeah. Glee: Okay. Great. Thank you so much for coming in on the show, Lawin and more power to podcasts. Lawin: thank you, Glee. You too. Glee: Thank you. 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37 minutes | Jun 22, 2021
S2E6: Decluttering for Calmness of the Mind, Body and Soul Ft. Louise Hopkin
Such a fun, enjoyable and informative conversation with Louise Hopkin, a professional home organiser based in Canada shares her expertise on: - why do accumulate so much clutter? - how to achieve calmness in our lives through decluttering our own space - how to avoid fuzzy brain - how do we tell our parents to give new homes for their old stuff when the time comes - and so much more! This episode is recorded via Riverside.FM Offer: Get 25% discount when you join. 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So please, don't forget to click on the link on the episode notes and use the coupon code Mediaboard25 upon checkout. Today we explore why we accumulate so many objects in our homes that sometimes we don't need and how we can manage and let go of these things. Our guest is a professional home organizer who has been helping people for five years, decluttering their homes. To provide calmness and balance of the mind, spirit and soul. She is originally from New Zealand and now living in Canada with her family, she loves to learn and find ways to make life simple and enjoy the moment. Please. Welcome Louise Hopkin. Hi Louise. Welcome to the show. Louise: Hi. Glee Thank you so much for having me here. I'm really excited to talk about my favorite subject. Glee: thank you for being on the show as well. And you run Space Reclaimers currently. What inspired you to build it in the first place? Louise: That's a really great question. And it's taken me a long time to kind of answer that , when I fell into it, I was looking for a business, not specifically, or home organizing. And I was looking around, I was like, I knew I needed to do something for myself being an entrepreneur. And I found home organizing. And I'm like, is that really a thing? Like, I hadn't really heard of it before. And so I looked into it more and I was like, that sounds great. And. I, decided to start my own business instead because I wanted to do things my way. And I just had a little twist on it. But the funny thing was like, I'm not a naturally organized person. And so for quite a while, I was like, why am I doing this? Like what, why am I pulled to this? And, and it was really intriguing. And it finally came to me the more I was working with clients, right. They. We're attached to their stuff. And I could see that there was so many more layers to it. So once I got to those layers, I was like, ah, this is what I'm drawn to is helping people understand, you know, the psychology part of it, the triggers and helping them release. So that's when it really clicked. And I really switched up and the start of creating my programs and coaching and now that's my passion and I love it. It's just, it's really exciting. And I love seeing people release that weight. It's like a weight. Right. And they can feel it being lifted from them. Glee: That's interesting. could relate to in a way that It's not naturally within you. Like for me, podcasting or talking is not actually natural for me because I'm an introvert. When you started looking at home organizing, was there some point in your life that when it just clicked, like when you started looking at it intently, Louise: yeah, for sure. So when I started doing it and I was working with friends and, you know, getting to know the system. And kind of how it works. And that's when I was like, okay, this is what I like to do. And, and part of me is I really love to help people and that's always something I've wanted to do as well. I didn't know exactly what capacity that would be. And then I found that this really worked for me because I'm very empathetic with people and, and understand and, and get people to open up. So that's when it really clicked. And I'm like, this covers. Everything that I really love about. And that I've been looking for in a career for the last, gosh, I don't know how many years now, a long time. Glee: Okay. You've mentioned about attachment and like the psychology in the things that we acquire. Why do you think a lot of us have this emotional attachment to these things? Louise: well, you know, things? are really their symbol sometimes of the time in our life. So, you know, if you go traveling and you buy all those souvenirs, And you get those little knickknacks and you're like, Oh, this every time I'm going to see it, this is going to remind me of this memory and this place. And, you just keep buying them, buying them. And then when you get home, unfortunately, sometimes they just get packed away and it's like, they're collecting dust. And you're like, Whoa, I still remember that trip that I had in that great time I had with friends and family. But we, when we touch things, that memory comes back really, it comes back so strong and then it's like, Oh, but if I get rid of that, then the memory's gone. So it's trying to make that connection that the memory is still in you, it's not in this stuff, which is really hard for a lot of us. Right. So, Yeah. Glee: I haven't really thought about that. Like when you told me now, I realize that, Oh yeah, it is. It does. And Do you think, aside from that, is there something that culture related, have you worked with other clients in Canada or somewhere else that they might have different leaning on things on why they, they do it? Louise: Yeah, for sure. It, there is different cultures. Does that will do that. because gift giving is a huge thing and it's a respectful thing and it's, we need to keep hold of these items and I haven't come across it a whole lot, but I can see it in some homes. Sometimes it's the culture of what they're being, brought up and right. Their home, the style of their home. It can be if they've come from A place or a country or a time where things were really hard to come by, then you tend to really treasure everything you have. And now you have access to so much stuff because we have online shopping. Things are really affordable now. Right. You know, you have, I won't mention any names, but like, you know, the big. Websites that you can buy cheap things. So there can be that culture and that background that really leads us to holding on to items because if you've paid really good money for it? and it's what if I need it, Glee: yeah. The what is Louise: thinking. But what if it's huge or yeah, totally is. It's like, and there's good. Cause when it comes to the, what if there's I talk about rules and guidelines for that? If you have something in your life, but what if I need it someday? A really good rule I say is the 20:20 rule. And I don't know if you've heard the minimalists actually do this one. And so what it is, if it's under $20 and if you can drive. Don't have to drive more than 20 miles or Ks for it. Then you can let it go easily because it's easily replaced. It's not wasteful way of thinking. It's more like helping you release easier and quicker, if that makes sense. So having these little rules and guidelines, it really helps with that psychology part of it. Right when you're letting go. Glee: I'm curious, like for example I have something very sentimental value. Like I can't let go of it. Is there some thing that, Oh, it's fine that you don't let go of it. Is there some kind of like soft rule? Louise: Yeah, for sure. There is totally, if it's all taking up. A lot of real estate in your home, you know, if it's not causing anxiety. And if you perhaps like the piece, sometimes we don't always necessarily like the piece when it's sentimental, but it still has that attachment to it. Right. So, what I like to say is let's have a, it's either a number game or a space game. So if you have some sentimental items and say, you have one box full of them, right. So you could have a tote that has your sentimental items in there. That's fine. Right? We're not talking about getting rid of them. Everything. That means something to you, but what we're talking about is creating those boundaries. So when you have those boundaries, then it doesn't go over it. If it's a sentimental item. Is it a, like if it's a large piece, is it large Glee: Let's say large. Yeah. Yeah. Louise: Large. Okay, cool. So if it's a large piece of, we're making this up, so look at on the fly. So if it's a piece of furniture, right. And you're looking at it and it's taking out real estate, then what I suggest is a couple of different things. You can, take photos of it, which I know a lot of people say, but do you ever really go back to that photo and then actually try sell that piece or donate if this is, if you don't like the piece, but another way you could do it is ask family members. And say, is anybody else interested in this? So I've had some clients that will actually do an auction in their home. So this is, this is kind of like maybe older clients and they're trying to rehome their stuff. So they'll have their family come in and do an auction, which is kind of fun because then everybody gets to pick the piece. They like, another way I talk about is repurposing it. So if you're okay with having it, like if it's a piece of furniture that can be chopped up, which sounds a bit drastic, But you can have it remade into something else. Right. And then you still have that sentimental item. It could be made into a picture frame. like I thinking of a metal holder, like if you have kids and stuff and you can put your metals on there. There's quite a few different things. You can repurpose it. So that's another way of doing it or repaint it and put new handles on it. So there's a few things, right? Glee: good that you mentioned. Cause yeah, I wouldn't have really thought about it. And you've mentioned also about like family matters. I'm curious to know how, like for me, I am a Filipino living in Australia, but even before in the Philippines, my parents really love collecting stuff because of the culture as well. And how am I able to tell them that, or maybe try to start a conversation with them on like, mom, dad, just can, can you just let go of these stuff and you know, how do I, how do I initiate, these conversations? Louise: Yeah. You know, that's a really tricky one and a lot of us struggle with it. Right. Because we don't really like to think about what happens to mom and dad eventually happens to all of us. Right. But it's a sub Yeah. it does. That's one thing we can be sure of in life, I guess. So. And it's, it's not a fun subject and I totally get that. But what happens is a lot of the times we're left with our parents stuff. And if you're saying your parents like to collect stuff because of their culture, and it can be just. How our parents are as well. Then you have to think about your going to be the one that needs to not clean up the house, but, you know, deal with your stuff when you're dealing with mourning and and other things, right. Are you going to have to go there and pack up their home? Find a home for everything. Are you going to feel guilty getting rid of this stuff? That sounds a bit harsh, but you know what I mean, dealing with it. So what I suggest is really start the conversation now, and that could be tough. And, and you know, for some times they may change the subject. They you know, say, I don't want to talk about that right now. But just keep it, which, you know, I get it. Cause they're like, eh, that's not something I really want to think about. Some are open, some are not, but just keep being really gentle and really mindful and don't come out them as a, um, really. Yeah, basically. Yeah. You know what I'm trying to like, come in right. Really aggressive, right. Just say, right, we're going to get rid of this and they'll be like, Whoa. No. So, so what I suggest is coming in gentle conversations like mum and dad, you have some great stuff here. I really want to find a great home for them. I don't have room for them in my home. What can we do? And then you can actually start it's a little bit harder. Are you parents doing in the Glee: Yeah, they are still in the Philippines. Louise: right. So it's a little bit different, but you could start working together with them even over virtually. Let's find a home for things. Let's start asking the family and do it together as a project. And so then they can see their stuff going to a really great home and they feel good about it. And another one could be to donations that they, they really are passionate about. Go to donation centers. So they know they're helping someone with their stuff, but really start the gentle conversation. Don't be aggressive about it. And start with words like mum and dad, like I said, do you have great stuff? I love it. I just don't have room for it. But if you have brothers and sisters as well, talk to them and see amongst yourselves, what you want, Glee: Hmm, Louise: do the old Glee: like Louise: claim. I want that. Glee: wants it. I feel that. Yeah. I think it's very good that you mentioned that. um, to start with saying that these are the, your stuff are really great because I think, for us kids, We just bluntly say that, Oh, it's not useful anymore. Like you say, it's the bad things right away. So I guess that's why. Louise: Yeah. And it's the emotions you've got to watch out for. Right. Cause we all love our stuff, what we have, it's our stuff. And it's what we're attached to. It's what we're passionate about. And if someone comes at us and said, you know what, you got too much stuff. I don't want it. Let's just get rid of it. It's like, Whoa. Glee: Yeah, yeah, Louise: we get that. Think of it and being in their shoes. Right? yeah. It's a tough one, but it's start slowly. Glee: And one of the things that also you're passionate about the decluttering part that provides calmness in our lives. So how does it, integrate with this, calm in our lives? just by decluttering our homes. Louise: with clutter, some of us really, we don't stop and think about the actual effects it has on us. So we kind of know it has some sort of effect, right. We walk past something and we're like, Oh, wow. That kind of sends a message to the brain. I, to deal with that. And you walk past it five times before you do anything with it, maybe more than that. So then you have brain clutter when you have so much stuff. So, what we need to do is create a system, like keep it regularly, actually maintain it with our habits and routines. And when you see you have too much stuff, there's a lot of triggers that cause us to have too much stuff. So going a little deeper. I know this is kind of deeper in the question, but I have the acronym the top six reasons why we collect clutter, which is reason and retail therapy emotions. Assigned time. S for sentimental over overwhelming and can't say no. So what you need to do is really look into this and discover the triggers of why we're holding onto clutter, because clutter affects us in our health, our finances, and it robs us of our time. Right. So, you imagine when a well. we're not leaving our homes as much lately, but you know, when you're rushing out the door and you're trying to find your keys, you're trying to get the kids ready for school. And they've got backpacks and lunches, and you're just like the stress level goes up so high. You'll leave the house and perhaps you're heading to work or you go into business, then you're really now have all this adrenaline rush. And you're just feeling really, really stressed. Then you come home. And the house is chaos. So what's the first thought your first thought is like, ah, I gotta do all this. And then it just starts again. Right. Whereas our home, I feel, and what I believe is that it should be our sanctuary don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's always going to be a hundred percent perfect. Cause mine definitely is not. But we need to keep on top of it. So we're not feeling like we have fuzzy brain. I call it fuzzy brain, you know, when you can't focus and you're like, I've got to do this? I've got to do that. And there's so much going on in our lives that when we can have calm in our lives, we allow for abundance. We allow for creativity. There's just so much that comes in and you can actually focus and spend time with your family and really listen to them and really not be thinking about, I've got to do that pile of dishes over there. I've got to pick up all that stuff over there. So it really affects us in so many ways. And our health. We sometimes make, not so good health choices because we, don't enjoy being in our home. Right. Or we don't like cooking. So we don't, make good meals because we're just not really feeling comfortable or we do a lot of takeaway. It heightens our anxiety can cause depression. I know I'm kind of bringing the conversation down, but you know, there's all these things that we need to think of that clutter really does have a hold of us. really a lot of, scientists now are actually studying it and it's becoming a real thing, I guess you call it right. there's a lot of studies happening all over America about it now. Glee: thank you for, going deeper into that question. And I have like a very funny article that I came across with, which is also related to a study, but like on the different spectrum. So it's an article from Independent.co.uk that you, I, when I was like searching for anything about decluttering, it just came up and then it said that intelligent people tend to be messy. So apparently this study in the university of Minnesota that suggests the link between geniuses and their intelligence. So. this is just a fun take. So what is your take on it? Louise: I love that. I think that's really funny and, and I know intelligent people will be like wow, that's probably me. Um, there, there are so. Glee: I'm, messy, you know? Like, and something like um, I in Stein's table was also like messy. I don't know. Like maybe it's just because it's Einstein. Not because he's, um, messy. That's why he's a genius or something. Louise: It's really funny , Einstein, cause I've actually used a couple of his quotes and I can't remember off the top, but he talks about clutter and probably because he's, you know, the brain is like going constantly, so they have everything. But one really interesting thing is you can seem messy to other people. But you can know exactly where everything Glee: Ah, Louise: different. So they might have piles of papers. And then you say, can you grab me that report? And you're like, yeah, sure. Here it is. You know what I mean? So it's, everybody's so different. So I really liked that take on it actually. But Yeah. Einstein, what he was actually well-known for like his clutter and he actually quoted about it quite a Glee: Hmm, Louise: you said that. Glee: it was, it was, it was, so funny that, people, when they see these types of articles in the internet, You know, we tend to Oh, I'm also like this one, I'm like this one because it said, you know, so what, it's a, it's a funny, it's a funny thing, but I guess, I mean, it's, as you said, it's, everybody's different and My messy is not other people's messy. As long as maybe people are hygienic or something. Louise: Yeah. Yeah. There's a difference between that. Hey, if you've ever seen like the hoarder shows and stuff like that, there are interesting, there's, there's a different kind of perspective in there too, but yeah, being cleans kind of actually, and I'll admit myself, I don't like cleaning. I'm an organizer, but I don't like cleaning. Glee: uh, me, I'm the opposite. Um, actually I'm very messy, but I like cleaning. Like I'm so bacteria freak, I really like cleaning, but it's just messy. Like the messy, like the arranging, the arranging part is difficult for me. Louise: Right. And that's where it's really good, because I guess being maybe in the opposite, I might housecleaning. I could leave it. I'm like, I mean, I don't, but it's like, it's not my favorite thing. Getting rid of clutter and sorting it, love it where people kind of do think I'm a little weird that way, but that's Okay. Glee: Ah, yeah. Well, that's very interesting. And at least now like, Oh, it's not really, it's not always like, the same as you mentioned, but yeah, very Louise: Well, and, and now that you say that, we also talk about organizing to our processing modalities, so don't get to, but you know how we have the eight modalities, so processing to that as Glee: eight modalities. Louise: So If you are creative, if you are kinesthetic, kinesthetic, um, if you're an audio person, if you're visual. So it really, that really plays a big part into it too, which I find really intriguing as well. And that's what I help people with too, because just a quick example, if you have your home office and say, if you're a visual person, like if you put things away, You forget about it. And that's actually a big, a lot of us, right? It's like, I put this away, I make it look pretty. And then you're like, Oh, I forgotten where, what I have. But if you have an office where you can organize it, you have open shelves, but make it look pretty, then you feel better because you can see it cause you're visual. But then somebody asked that could drive them a little crazy because they're like, that's going to annoy me seeing all that stuff. I need it hidden away. So you see that like, How it affects us that way too. So yeah, I just thought I'd throw them. Glee: that's good. That's good though. Thank you for mentioning that. what is your advice on the first step that we need to do to change the mindset of accumulating clutter or being disorganised? Louise: Yeah, for sure. Great question. it can be a, loaded question, but the first thing I always say is let's really look at why we're holding onto clutter, where it comes from, you know, the acronym I suggested is it because when, you're triggered, emotionally, do you go shopping? Is it sentimental your hope. Right. Ah, God, you busted. You're like, yep. That's me. So, and then, you know, so what we do is we switch that mindset. Okay. I feel triggered. I actually don't really need anything, but let's go for, coffee with a friend or let's find something else. When you notice that trigger happening. But just to really be aware of that and get to the root cause of why you're collecting and can't let go, but just sort of on another way, how you can do it is, commit to it. And make it like an actual priority, which I know a lot of us don't we kind of go, I'll do it later. And you know, it's, it's not important, but you know, if you, you know, when you're cleaning it, like you're doing your house cleaning, how good that feels. So now we need to change that projection to having less stuff and not being messy and saying, I want that feeling of, you know, how good that feels when I put stuff away. But then it's also having a place for everything as well. and that makes it easier. But if we were to go back to just sort of say, how are you going to start to declutter? What I would suggest for people is get a spot in your home that you can kind of leave boxes. So grab some boxes that you can do the categories donate, keep sell, trash. And then have that set up and then go through the areas, like do them in small, tiny tasks is what I call them. I don't know if you've seen, like some say, pull everything out all at once. Like pull your whole closet at it all at once. And then that just gets overwhelming and you won't finish Glee: Some TV shows. I think Louise: do. Glee: I think I Louise: Yeah. I'm trying not to name names, but, but you know, there's other, Yeah, Glee: But it's okay. It's okay. Louise: yeah, So, so, you know, and that's one way of doing it, which, it's great. And you get to see it, but who has six to eight hours to go through the closet and put it back? Not me. I don't. And I don't actually, I know I said I like decluttering, but I don't like it for six or eight hours a day. Right. That's Glee: Yeah. Louise: So, so Yeah. so what I suggest is get boxes, totes, anything, put them in an area of your home. That's not going to cause any issues, but commit to it, put it in your calendar and say by the end of the week or two weeks, I'm going to have my closet done. And just spend 10 minutes, 15 minutes every night, going through your closet. And what you'll always find is actually it's a really big knock on effect. Go through the simple things first. So things that you know, that you can get rid of quite easily and then work your way up to the harder items. You know, the items you're keeping because. Just in case I can fit into them again one day just in case. Right. Then you're kind of like, you're really ready to let go. Cause you're making that decision, but that's kind of how to do it really quickly. And, because people sometimes say start with the hard things first, but if you start with the hard things, you're not going to continue on. Right. Because you don't feel good about yeah. So that would be my suggestion for people. Glee: Oh, Thank you. so much for that advice. I remembered something that, I'm looking at some, Instagram, you know, photos and, you know, decluttering is like a thing now as well, especially in the Philippines and, most of the home organizers, they, buy more stuff to organize their homes. like, labeling and stuff. what is your take on it? Louise: Yeah. I'm a little different from that. So I actually, it's a great question too, because, when I talk about like the three top mistakes, the one of the top mistakes is thinking you need more organizing products and you really don't. Right. You know, maybe occasionally you might need a little bin or something to put things in, but when I help people, they have so much organizing stuff. They're like, but I don't know what to do with it, and I don't know how to use it. And then what happens is when they declutter, they don't need it. And it's like, okay. I didn't need that to buy that new shelving or, you know, so it's really interesting. So it's a good question. But we just think we're hiding it. Is what's happening as like, if I could just hide it, then it'll be fine. But then when it's behind those doors or in those bins, can you remember what's there? Do you know really? Do you need it? So it's really going into those questions and be more, more mindful of it really, instead of just putting a bandaid on the problem, that's what I call it. Glee: I'm glad that you, you have the same sentiment or something, or your same style, because actually I tried like just looking at Instagram, all people are buying this some very nice canister where I can put my, like coffee or tea and these things. of course they look very aesthetic and then I tried it, but I think it just works differently for other people. It's not like, you know, one style fits all because I tried buying it to put the cereals and stuff. And then in the end, When I bought another couple of cereals or after, you know, several groceries, I didn't put it back. Louise: Oh, no, but, and that's a habit you don't know until you try it. Right. And, but we see so much social media and it's like, okay, but that that's got to be, if they're doing it, then I'm doing it too. Right. That's gotta be the right way. So yeah. I think it's a really good take. And another thing is I really encourage not to have things on your countertops. Maybe a couple of things, but I'm really big at not having that. And a couple of reasons is because it keeps the room decluttered, but it's also quick for cleaning, you know, like you don't want to have to be picking up things all the time and it's, you know, it's kind of the end. Like I told you, I don't like cleaning. So I'm like, if I can do it quick, then I'm happy, but Yeah. that's good that you tried, but you know, Glee: Yeah, it just didn't work out for me, but yeah. So that's why, I guess, I guess that's where the home organizers come in, because they would need to understand the personality of the person. Not like just me, like, Oh, looking at Instagram, it's very aesthetic. I buy these canisters shelves, whatever do labeling, but you know, like without, without really consulting. Louise: Yeah, it, it totally right. And we all do there's, you know, there's a lot of organizers and like you said, it's becoming a really big thing now. And we all have different styles and I'm not like minimalist, but I'm like, let's just have less stuff. And, and like I said, I'm not a naturally organized person, but what helps me get organized is having less stuff. So that's why I want people to realize that because we've become kind of a materialistic. Without actually realizing it. I think because we have so much, we have easy access to stuff. Like I said, it's so affordable. We can go online it's just, it's really easy to get, but we've kind of forgotten that, you know, when you end up, some people will have. 10 potato peelers. They have, all these different things in their kitchen. They have all these gadgets. Right. And it's really funny cause I'm like, Whoa, I have a knife. I don't need to get all those little gadgets. I can cut things here. I'm thinking of like a strawberry huller if I need to say that word right. Or, you know, an avocado slicer or an egg slicer, I'm like, but I can do that with a knife. Why do I need, so, you know, it's great if people use them, but half the time they don't. So it's kind of changing that mindset. Right. And it's like, I've had my pots and pans for like 16 years and I've had, which sounds relate, but they're still really good quality. And, you know, I keep my things for a really long time. So, I think buying good quality stuff too helps as well. Right. Glee: Yeah, totally agree with that. it's just changing the mindset, as you mentioned, because let's say, you know, you see these cheap things in, on the internet, like, Oh, let me just buy this, but I have a very good pan though, but it's too heavy for me. forgot the name Lecreause or something like the French Louise: Oh, okay. Glee: Level or something, but it's so hard to clean Louise: But he keep it though. Glee: anyway, So, before we wrap things up, I wanted to ask you some fun questions, unrelated to decluttering. aside from your profession, what are you most passionate about? Louise: that's a very good question. I am passionate about, camping. I love being outdoors, and living in Canada right now. Cause I'm from New Zealand originally. And living in Canada Alourmonths are like three months of the year. We have summer. It's quite different. So I've loved being out in nature and just like having that campfire and, and it was funny. Cause growing up, I never used to like it. I always wanted to go stay in a hotel, because we did it all the time, but now I'm like me and my son and my husband. We love it. Just hearing the water yeah, that's, that's what I'm and we're going next weekend. So super excited. Yeah, Glee: Oh, Oh, enjoy, enjoy. me, I'm, on to the more of the city's life, but, but I noticed like a lot of Australians and Kiwis, they prefer nature, I think, but maybe because of the very good, natural resources here as well. So it's easier to hike the, things that you can access. Louise: Yeah. definitely. And in Calgary where I'm, you know, I'm close to BAMF, which is really famous mountains and Lake Louise, ah, it's appropriately named right. It's called Lake Louise. Um, So yeah, we have easy access to it, so it's amazing. And it just clears the mind. Huh? Not, Not, bringing it back to clutter. Glee: Yeah. Nice. Nice. And so if you had to delete all but three apps from your smartphone, which one would you keep? Louise: Oh, am I allowed to keep? Netflix? I would have to keep Netflix. That's my, I, I w that's an app, right? Yeah. I'm like, I am. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm searching. I'm like thinking was that through the website, but I'd have to keep that one. And I would have to keep calm, which is a meditating app, because that really helps me and. Ooh. I like this question. Now I have to like, look at my phone. you know what, I would get rid of my social media. I'm going to have to say that. Sorry, social media. But I would keep, you don't what? And it's funny cause I have triple J the Australian radio station. Yeah. So they're from Sydney, the Australian radio station. I actually have that app on my phone and I listened to that all the time. So yeah, because music, I love that music. So I would have, that's a good Glee: Oh, okay. Okay, great. Ah, that's nice. one last fun question, if you're going to sail around the world, what's the name of your boat? Louise: Oh, Oh, that is awesome. I love that. I thought you were going to ask me what would be my destination now. I'm like, Ooh, I have to think about that. Well, I'm not very creative with that. Can I go with something like, freedom that's what comes to my mind. Glee: Okay. Then it's Louise: we'll go with that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Glee: Great. what are your top tip for our Zesties when decluttering their homes? Louise: Yeah. So top tips is a, make it a priority. Really set it as a, a necessity in your life. If you're wanting to create that space in your life and your home, I would put it in your calendar because if you don't schedule it, it's like an appointment. Right. Then you won't do it. So schedule it in like an appointment. And another really great tip is to change that mindset, to know that you can really live with that stuff. And another really cool one I just was thinking of, I would pack, I don't know if you've heard of the minimalist. I did the packing party, but I would pack things away. Have you heard it that one Glee: Hmm. No, I haven't. I heard about the minimalists, but I'm not really in depth. Louise: Yeah. So what they did was, one of them actually packed up their whole house. And they were still living there. And what, I'm not suggesting you do this, but what, but what they do, it was as he needed stuff, he pulled it out and then he realized he didn't open half of those boxes. So sometimes you could do that is just actually pack some things away that you're undecided about and see if you actually really do miss it. And I think that's a really good way to kind of change that mindset. It's like, well, I didn't use it in six months. I don't need it. So I think that's a really good tip and that way, and I was thinking of one more final tip. I think I did mention it before, start with the easy things first. think of it as layers. And just saying, I'm going to go with the easy one that I'm going to see how this feels, and then I'm going to go onto the next thing, but don't feel bad if you go back and forth to the item, because I've had clients that will actually take a week to, declutter something. So don't, don't push it. It's a process. And I think that's a really big thing thinking of it as a process, rather than if it's done straight away, if you're really struggling with things. Glee: Thank you so much for your tips. they're quick to remember and I think it would resonate to a lot of, especially me. Louise: excellent. Glee: And then, so where can our zesty find you? Louise: Yeah, sure. So I'm on Instagram as the Space Reclaimers. I have my website, thespacereclaimers.ca, and then I have a Facebook group and it's a private group. So it'sWho Loves to Organize. So with that group, it's great. Cause we do some workshops. We do some tips and strategies. And really help you learn how to let go of stuff and declutter and, and try and do it in 15 minutes a day. So it doesn't feel like a full-time job. Right. So, yeah. and I think that's probably the best places to find me where I hang out. Glee: Oh, thank you so much, Louise, for this wonderful and enjoyable conversation, I've really learned a lot and I'm sure our Zesties have resonated with your tips and our stories as well. Louise: That's awesome. Thank you, so much for having me. It's been a pleasure to speak with you and I really enjoyed it. Thank you, Glee: Hey, Zesties, hope you learned and had fun with today's episode. I'm curious to know which part of the house you'd like to declutter, or if you're like me, who's struggling in that area then which space do you least like to declutter? Let me know in the comments or feedback, stay tuned for next week's episodes.
43 minutes | Jun 15, 2021
S2E5: Understanding Ourselves and Others Through the Four Temperament Theory Ft. Khen Rose Tapdasan
Do you want to understand yourself and others? Why do others react differently than we expected? Our guest, a Certified Public Accountant in the Philippines and entrepreneur shares about the book she've read called Personality Plus by Florence Littauer. We talked about the four personality types namely the Popular Sanguine, the Powerful Choleric, the Peaceful Phlegmatic and the Perfect Melancholy. Learn more about the combinations and how do we interact harmoniously with other personality types. The types are not used for labelling, but a way to provide some context into our our colourful personalities. Follow Khen: https://www.instagram.com/khentapdasan Zestie shoutout: Gerson Velmonte, thanks for the coffee! Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! : https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6CVL2QD Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! : https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=ANQENUPWKT9JS Fundraising for my dad: https://gofund.me/65aac4af Excerpt transcript: Khen: Yeah. Actually I'm this personality type temperament theory. I've got that in the book personality plus from Florence Littauer she's an American author and have been studying personality for 25 plus years already. And I'm really, amazed with this book because. It has comprised all the behaviors for me to know more about people. So the four personality types, according to her and to the book is that we have sanguine when we call them popular sanguine. When we have the perfect melancholy, the powerful choleric and the peaceful phlegmatic. So there are two impairments and according to Florence she said that every person has inborn temperament. So these are our raw material. This is who we are, but , we are harnessed and being changed through circumstances, experiences, and environment. That's why we create different personality types. So there will be combination of the fourth temperament that makes sense. People unique and becomes who they are. So that's basically the personality equip the environment theory. Glee: Oh, all right. So there are adjectives before the temperamental. could you take us through what comprises, why they are described that way? Khen: I believe Florence need that name to describe every personality. So for example, a sanguine when Florence, the author made it called popular because sanguine, when personality are really very enthusiastic. They are popular because they become life of the party. So, as we go along, as we thought through with each personality, maybe you would be thinking who are those people? So I'll just share some of the characteristics of sanguinebites. So they are expressly active and they're really loved people. They get their power when they have a lot of people around them, they are outgoing and. Mostly they're good in telling stories because they are fun. they're inspiring and charming. And probably they're also good on stage because they're really lost people. So, especially when you are outside they're really good in speaking. Also sanguine wins, have memory for callers. So for example, even if it's very basic work like cooking popcorn, they make it more enjoyable. They make people happy and also sanguine twins are like a child. They are wide eyed and very curious, creative and colorful. Also sanguine greens are really cannot say no. So these are the negative things of sanguine Wednesday. You cannot say no, because we are people pleasers. So they want to be people around them and it be in the end, they could not say no, they're always saying yes, even if they don't can handle every appointment that they said yes to. And because of their. Fun, and expressive personality. They make friends easily, but feel your true friends because they forget. So, aside from popular sanguine when they have opposite. So the opposite of a sanguine good person out of the, or the melancholic. So melancholy colleagues actually Are the thinker. So, if this outfit is the Fokker, the "Melan" colleagues are the thinker and the planner because I'm built are these organized, but melancholic, they are organized. There is a story about melancholy in the book that there was this guy who actually go to the office and he could not start working with us even. Aligning all their, all his pencils in the desk. So that's how organized he is. And melancholic are analytical people. They love to analyze. They will love to see graphs and charts. They want to study on their own and they are also neat and diabetic. Most of the colleagues. We really need them to be very serious and purposeful. And the perfect term for melancholia is, or they are perfectionist. They have ideal standards, but also very emotional because they are compassionate and the are, have deep concern with others. And also "Melan" colleagues are the geniuses of the world. So, the best example of that Florence sampled in the book is Michael Angelo, the painter in the Sistine chapel. If you could imagine Michael Angelou finish that. The painting for four years in chief Suzanne chocolate, because he wanted it to be perfect. So that's there are intellectual and also they are detailed, conscious once straight to the point and they six ideal mate. So that's perfect. My lung colleagues and another personality are the corollary. So. This is another sanguine. When is an extrovert outspoken? Now I'm calling are introverts and Kolarik is another extrovert. Personality. So cholerics are the leaders of the world. They are born leaders. So mostly they get their way the are compulsive and strong-willed. So if you've met people, like they really wanted to have their way, they want to have to do their own way. So they are polarity, they're decisive and cholerics are goal oriented people. So they always wanted to do things their own way and finish it, even if they are not being sensitive or B, because they are focused on the result. So that's one of the downside of being a corollary because different gaps to be sensitive is they want the goals to be done no matter what, whatever it takes. And of course if Neyland are also loves to work, cholerics also loves the work, but they delegate it so they know how to delegate work. And usually they're good in debate. so, sometimes it's scary to find a corollary because they can be very strong. there's also the other personality, which is the exact opposite of cholerics. They are the phlegmatic. So. when they say from the word beast, what very new wanted to make everything peace. So they come the crowd. they have low key personality. So sometimes you see like MAPICS at the back of the background that just listening and observing phelgmatics has many friends because you can never go wrong with the phlegmatics. They're really friendly, easy going and easy to get along with because they both argue. They just always say yes and Black are good listeners. So they listen to you. If you want to, someone to talk to, you can go to Aflac. They're also patients with you and very happy. Yeah. Just easy going. And it has administrative ability. So one of the example that we can give to like Malbecs are the like negotiators or there's a, there is this book I've also read. About hostage negotiators. So these are flat MAPICS because they know how to come and reconcile equal. So that's basically the temperaments and they are opposites and similar. Glee: I think that even though these types of tests, there are different personality tests out there and. We cannot really label a person for a specific trait, but of course, this just helps us to understand people more, not labeling them, but understanding them. So aside from that, so can you take us through, like, what are the benefits of understanding these personality types as we go through life? Khen: Yeah. I actually, I agree with you when you said D that yeah, instead of changing them, we should understand them. So, basically that's the purpose of the book and the book says understanding yourself. So that you can also understand the others. So the benefit of knowing your personality types is really knowing that you are unique, that we are unique in each of each person is unique. It's combination of your personality is unique. And knowing your strengths, your weaknesses, and who you really are, could really make you understand yourself more. And there is this dating from John Maxwell his his one of the. Well known best-selling author and speaker. He said that successful people work hard in knowing themselves. If you know who you really are, then you know how to become the best of who you are and, you know, your inner selves improve your personalities. And by doing that, you will also understand and get along with others very well. Probably that's one of the basic benefits that this book gave me personally with my own story, knowing myself I actually took that's 11, 10 or 11 years ago. Yeah. I've read the book when 30 11, so that's 10 years and I tested myself. And it's, it went that I have sanguine wind. And culinary combination. So, but there are not really far like, we have sanguine wind for 16 points and 15 points for clarity. So knowing that I understood that, Hey I want that to go out. I wanted to meet people. That's why I sometimes have a lot of friends and I have a lot of. Appointments troffers or meeting people. And sometimes I could not meet all of them because I, I understood that saying yes, so that I will please people, but I am not that committed in, in my, yes. So. That made me understand that. That's why I could not say no because I'm a people pleaser and I could not relapse because I'm not Teleric I always wanted to be goal oriented. So that's what happened to me. And at the same time, it made me analyze and understand people. Not same as me because. Before, of course you B I understood that. If I'm right and if you want also to confirm that you're the other side of me, you're the introvert, the "Melan" and the Phleg personality. Yes. Glee: Yeah. I'm totally am like, even, I think I took that test before, but I forgot what the combination was, but melancholia is the perfect description for me. So. Khen: Yeah. Yeah. I also agree. So this more, I thought that I should be like you, right? Cause sometimes when we always eat something we don't have. Right. So, it made me realize, knowing the book that I should not copy any other personality and I should be also understand others because they are different for me. And we could leverage each other's strengths. So. Yeah. So that's really one of the benefits. Of this book and thank you for her affirming that my guess is right. Glee: Yeah, I took the test years ago. I think that was when we were talking about it as well, but I forgot the combination, but I'm very sure I'm melancholic. If we're going to take the test today, let's say we've took the test 10 years ago. Do you know if there's a possibility that. The personalities changed or the combination Khen: changes? that's a very good question. My answer is yes, and even the book said that because of our personality though, we have our inborn environments, but we are changed according to our experience, our environment. And sometimes we undergo masks of survival. The book tells us that. For example, if for us, we are a contents, right? So if I am a when, and my work is on that content, so sometimes I copy other personalities so that I could be now land because I contents are really, should be detail oriented. So in the end, probably you will also change your personality. When you took the test, it might change, but you then given a circumstance like an emergency, your true personality will really reveal. If I must sanguine when in my role in that area and I'm becoming Nehlen because of my work, but when I'm given an urgent path, I'll be astounding. I'll go back to on my original personality, but we can change. And the goal actually of the book is really to balance your personalities, according to your environment, according the people you deal with. Glee: so it's like , you can adapt to a certain trait. Or temp paramount based on the circumstance. However, when an emergency situation arises. So your actual, or your raw material will prevail if you could help us, cite some examples of popular figures. About which one is melancholic or which one is sanguine, if you could share. Khen: Yeah, sure. One of the popular, sanguine wins are it's a Filipina. Okay. Yeah, sure. Okay. So if you're really popular sanguine good examples for Philip for Filipino actors is Alex guns. I got number one, YouTube here in the, and so as you can see, she talks too much and, but she's fun in a way, right? The opposite courtesy. There is the melancholic. So Tony is narcotic. That's why they're very opposite. I know their "Melan"s as what I've mentioned, way back is Michael Angelo. So the pain was seen third another example for For me, I must sanguine good. My sister is a "Melan". So you are a "Melan". And famous personality for cholerics? Probably there are the president. Some of the people I've known having cleric personality is one of my friends here in the Philippines. So, he is he's really caloric. He's a lawyer. And I could see that he knows he's waiting. cholerics also Are you goal oriented? he actually have a goal and he wants it his way. And if you could also search one of example is Louis Carrillo his seamless leader and speaker in our community and he used to be an air traffic controller. So that's how he. He said that his hundred percent goal Eric and phlegmatic is one of my present day hero because I love this guy he's really so spoken, his name is Mike Wilson. So he's actually the founder of CCG international. The one that, that I am connected with. his powerful phlegmatic, he wanted to do a work and they just lays around. So that's how phlegmatic are, but you know what. So like MAPICS can also be coloring in a way they have this iron wheel personality, if they wanted to. That's why sometimes you should be also careful with black MAPICS because if they want something to happen, they are really focused and they wanted it to finish fast so that they could rest. Yeah.
40 minutes | Jun 8, 2021
S2E4 Mental Fitness and Taming the Inner Critic Ft. Amy Yip
We get to talk with Amy Yip, a Mental Fitness and Life Transformation Coach based in the US. She was in the corporate world for 16 years, and decided to quit her job at Google on 2020 to start pursue her dream of volunteering at Ghana, Africa. One of her greatest learnings on her life journey so far is that: Your mindset, NOT your circumstance, makes all the difference in your happiness and success. Mental Fitness helped her find the courage to pursue her dreams then pivot her dreams during COVID, which ultimately led her to where she is today with a thriving coaching practice while embracing the digital nomad life. She is passionate about bringing this to the world. To help others strengthen their mental fitness. To shift from surviving to thriving. To find their passions, author their own life story, let go of what they think they should be doing and follow their hearts. In this episode, we talked about: - Mental fitness - The saboteurs that cause all your stress, anxiety, self-doubt, frustration, regret, shame, guilt, and unhappiness. - Tips to develop mental fitness - Bonus for women Zesties: The dilemma of having babies or not, and what society tells us and many more! Connect with Amy: https://amyyipcoaching.com/ Zestie Shoutout: Gerson Velmonte, thanks for supporting the show! Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better!
43 minutes | Jun 1, 2021
S2E3: Inside The Life of An Indie Artist Ft. Kersly Potter
Kersly Potter, an independent singer-songwriter from Cebu, Philippines. Being her vulnerable self in this interview, Kersly shares her innermost thoughts and emotions about her life being an indie artist. Catch Kersley Potter on Spotify, Apple Music and on other music platforms. Instagram: @kerslypotteristic Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better!
37 minutes | May 25, 2021
S2E2: Introduction to Pickleball with the Australian Open Champions Ft. Sueme & Deborah
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42 minutes | May 18, 2021
S2E1: Spiritual Healing Through Visual Meditation Ft. Tor Njamo
Welcome to the New Season! In this episode, we are joined by Tor Njamo, a spiritual development and well-being coach. We'll learn about the different ways to harness intuition and develop our overall spiritual well-being. We talked about: Visual Meditation Past life regression Crystal healing Tarot reading Connect with Tor: Instagram: instagram.com/tornjamo Website: www.tornjamo.com Podcast: The Spiritual Link Featured Podcast: The Boringtastic Podcast Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better! Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a coffee or two!
10 minutes | May 11, 2021
S2B1: Why I changed from Vanilla Zest to Gleeful Talk Show?
Fundraiser link for the hospitalisation of my Father who is currently in the Philippines, please click below. All your help is extremely appreciated! ------ But the show must go on. -------- Glee shares the changes, lessons learned and what's ahead of her podcasting journey. Special thanks to Zesties who stuck around after all this time. Welcome to the new Zesties as well! Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two! Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better!
1 minutes | May 7, 2021
Welcome to the Gleeful Talk Show
Fundraiser Link for my Father's Hospitalisation in the Philippines: Fundraiser: Help Us Save Our Father ------ But, the show must go on ------- New season, new name, more exciting episodes! Re-branding to Gleeful Talkshow helps this podcast resonate better with #Zesties. Thank you for all the old and new #Zesties who have listened through my journey of creating this podcast. Join the zesty community on: Instagram: instagram.com/gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Visit us: www.gleefultalkshow.com Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee a cup of coffee or two :) Zestie survey: I'd like to know you better!
26 minutes | May 4, 2021
S1:EP19 Dubai: As Told by an Expat and a Local
Ramadan Kareem Zesties! Featuring Maha Musabeh of The Link Show, this episode shares some of what Dubai has to offer. There's certainly a lot, so this is definitely just a glimpse of it. The Host, Glee, lived and worked in Dubai as an OFW (Overseas Filipino Worker) for around 3 years, and she shares some of the exciting things that she has experienced in Dubai - especially the food! Maha, a Dubai local, shares her beloved city to the Zesties who haven't been there. She also debunked some of the old myths still lingering around. But for sure, this isn't lying around anymore these days - we certainly hope so! Follow The Link Show: Instagram Spotify Anchor Hope you enjoyed this episode! Got feedback? Or want to be share your story at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Vanilla Zest has now re-branded to Gleeful Talkshow. Please connect through the following channels: Website: www.gleefultalkshow.com Instagram: @gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two! Thank you for your support!
44 minutes | Apr 27, 2021
S1:EP18 The Road to Womanpreneurship: A 'Tableya Kisses' Story Ft. Geezelle
This episode explores the story of a budding Womanpreneur in the Philippines named Geezelle, and her passion to cultivate and revive the Filipino culture of drinking Sikwate (hot chocolate drink) using Tableya (local 100% dark cocoa). She shares what sparked her into venturing into business, the struggles of a small, budding, local business and her tips for our Zesties who'd like to start their own. We also briefly talked about our opinions on the Philippine agriculture and the educational system that only prepares students for the Corporate world. We hope to bring insight to our #Zesties both in the Philippines and around the world through this inspiring and entertaining conversation. Follow Geezelle on: Website: Geemiz.com IG: @tableyakisses FB: fb.com/tableyakisses Enjoyed the episode? Or Not? Let me know! Want to be share your story at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Vanilla Zest has now re-branded to Gleeful Talkshow. Please connect through the following channels: Website: www.gleefultalkshow.com Instagram: @gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two! Thank you for your support!
35 minutes | Apr 20, 2021
S1:EP17 The Creative Process to the Olfactory Senses Ft. Bryan fr. Elemento
Featuring Bryan, the co-founder and creative genius behind ElemntoPH, we delve into the mind of a creative, the process of doing a creative work, and even trying out a personality test called My Creative Type , plus so much more! I encourage our #Zesty community to try out this personality test and tag us on our Instagram! Follow Elemento at: Instagram: @elemntoph Shop: www.shopelemento.com Facebook: fb.com/elemntoph Enjoyed the episode? Or Not? Let me know! Want to be share your story at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Vanilla Zest has now re-branded to Gleeful Talkshow. Please connect through the following channels: Website: www.gleefultalkshow.com Instagram: @gleefultalkshow Facebook: fb.com/gleefultalkshow Ways to support Gleeful Talkshow: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two! Thank you for your support!
30 minutes | Apr 13, 2021
S1:EP16 Travelling in the 'New Normal' Ft. Katarina
How is it travelling in the 'New Normal'? Our guest, Katarina answers one of our #Zesties' questions. Enjoyed the episode? Or Not? Let me know! Want to be share your experience at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Email: firstname.lastname@example.org IG: @vanillazestpodcast Facebook: fb.com/vanillazestpodcast Website: www.vanillazestpodcast.com Ways to support Vanilla Zest: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two! Thank you for your support!
24 minutes | Apr 6, 2021
S1:EP15 The Astra Zeneca Vaccination Experience Ft. Menelyn
Menelyn, a highly skilled nurse with over 10 years of experience in both Philippines and Saudi Arabia, including experience in Infection Control, shares her experience on the after-effects of the Astra Zeneca Vaccine. In Australia, both Pfizer and Astra Zeneca are available. More information on The Australian Department of Health. In the Philippines, the vaccines are available through the COVAX facility. This is co-led by Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, the World Health Organisation (WHO), and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), working in partnership with UNICEF as well as the World Bank, civil society organisations, manufacturers and others. More information on the vaccines available at the Philippine Department of Health. There are news about clotting experiences of other recipients on the vaccine. Vanilla Zest Podcast and our Guest does not claim anything regarding this news, but only aims to share their personal experience and opinions about the vaccine. Please consult your country's Department of Health and your doctor.
41 minutes | Mar 30, 2021
S1:EP14 The Beauty of an Empowered Woman Ft. Jona of Backpacking with a Book
Vanilla Zest Podcast proudly presents... an exclusive talk with Jona of Backpackingwithabook.com. Jona is an accomplished author, writer, poet, essayist and speaker, who maintains a travel column on TV5’s Interaksyon.com, and writes for Rappler and Sun Star Cebu’s travel section. She has also won numerous awards, including First Prize 2013, Palanca Awards (Cebuano Short Story Category) and 2013, Sinulog Writing Contest (Poetry and Personal Essay Category), and has spoken to prestigious platforms including TedxUSanCarlos Talk. In this episode, we talk about what an empowered woman is for her, plus a lot of TMIs. We touched on topics about social injustices, race and gender pay gaps, to beauty pageants. Follow Jona: Website: Backpackingwithabook.com Instagram: @backpackingwithabook and @homehums Enjoyed the episode? Or Not? Let me know! Want to be share your experience at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Email: email@example.com IG: @vanillazestpodcast Facebook: fb.com/vanillazestpodcast Website: www.vanillazestpodcast.com Ways to support Vanilla Zest: Share to your friends Share on social media Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two!
17 minutes | Mar 23, 2021
S1:EP13 The Power Hour for A Night Owl Like Me
Sharing my own experience and readings about how to manage procrastination (tendencies). Have you read the book entitled The Power Hour by Adrienne Herbert? I've shared some insights from the book as well as my own take on "the power hour" for a nocturnal person like me. Happy listening! :) Enjoyed the episode? Or Not? Let me know! Want to be share your experience at Vanilla Zest? You’re very much welcome to do so! :) Any topics you’d like to feature on the show? Please reach out! Email: firstname.lastname@example.org IG: @vanillazestpodcast Facebook: fb.com/vanillazestpodcast Website: www.vanillazestpodcast.com Ways to support Vanilla Zest: 1. Share to your friends 2. Share on social media 3. Leave a rating on podcasting platforms and Facebook page 4. Buy Glee and her guest(s) a coffee or two!
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