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Tokens with Lee C. Camp
59 minutes | Oct 21, 2021
S4E12: Why Liberalism Failed: Patrick Deneen
What if the seemingly-opposite political forces of Left and Right are really two sides of the same philosophical coin? Patrick Deneen discusses the ways in which the modern West has taken for granted its long-held philosophy of Liberalism, and why this philosophy is starting to show signs of an inevitable failure.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
49 minutes | Oct 14, 2021
S4E11: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream: Ben Cohen
“It has to be the joyful journey for justice,” says Ben Cohen, the world-famous “Ben” in Ben & Jerry’s. In this episode, we hear from Ben how starting an ice cream business has given him the means to do justice with hope and humor.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
58 minutes | Oct 7, 2021
S4E10: Free Cyntoia: Cyntoia Brown Long
A special episode, taped in front of a live audience, in which Cyntoia Brown Long chronicles her experience leading to and within the Tennessee prison system, and the dramatic, at times hard-to-believe nature of the grace and providence which led to her coming-to-faith and ultimate release.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
55 minutes | Sep 30, 2021
S4E9: The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson
The X-CLUB, and the invention of the supposed war between science and faith, with astro-physicist and theologian David Wilkinson of Durham University.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
42 minutes | Sep 23, 2021
S4E8: Hope in the Age of Climate Change: Chris Doran
What does the resurrection of Jesus have to do with climate change? Chris Doran discusses why a rightly-seen eschatological hope should necessarily drive Christians towards climate care.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
46 minutes | Sep 16, 2021
S4E7: Self-Compassion: Kristin Neff
Ever wonder about “everybody getting a trophy” and the cult of self-esteem? Kristin Neff discusses the potential dangers of self-esteem—like bullying and narcissism—and the preferred practice of self-compassion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
53 minutes | Sep 9, 2021
S4E6: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice: Quincy Byrdsong
“Health inequities started with slavery,” says Dr. Quincy Byrdsong in this episode on healthcare inequities. We discuss at length the infamous Tuskegee Syphilis trials, and the persistent issues in healthcare and social justice. We close with a personal conversation about his experience as an African-American man, and how he has emotionally and professionally navigated doing such work.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
51 minutes | Sep 2, 2021
S4E5: Guns, Economics, Public Health: David Hemenway
The US, says Harvard Prof. David Hemenway, does not have a “violence problem” in comparison to other high-income countries in terms of robbery, assault, or burglary. But we have much more homicide and gun-related problems: “A child in the United States is much more likely to be murdered with a firearm than children in these other countries: We are twenty-nine times higher.” From the perspective of public health, what practical helps might there be? Listener discretion is advised.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
48 minutes | Aug 26, 2021
S4E4: Bad Faith—Race and the Rise of the Religious Right: Randall Balmer
Professor of Religion at Dartmouth College Randall Balmer tells of a meeting in Washington, DC that changed the course of his academic career, and set him on an unexpected investigation: the Religious Right’s origins is not to be located in the issue of abortion. Instead, he concludes, the movement began “to defend racial segregation.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
34 minutes | Aug 19, 2021
S4E3: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty: Christian Wiman
Poet Christian Wiman discusses doubt and faith; the role of poetry “when the world is burning”; ways in which being raised in west Texas made him the poet and person he is; how “destitution and abundance are two facets of the one face of God”; along with four poem recitations.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
53 minutes | Aug 12, 2021
S4E2: God and Guns: Chris Hays and Carly Crouch
Not so sure about Christians touting second amendment gun rights? A discussion with the editors of God and Guns: The Bible Against American Gun Culture, who challenge the too-easy pro-gun rhetoric of many American Christians.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
39 minutes | Aug 5, 2021
S4E1: Good Trouble: Ruby Amanfu, Matt Maher, Leigh Nash
“Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble,” said Congressman John Lewis. Leigh Nash and Matt Maher met for a song co-write honoring Lewis’s wisdom, hoping to speak to issues of race in America. Knowing their white perspective was not sufficient for an honest song, some awkwardness and vulnerability led to a request of their third co-writer Ruby Amanfu. That gave rise to their moving song “Good Trouble.” Includes live performance.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
53 minutes | Jun 3, 2021
S3E16: The Making of Biblical Womanhood: Beth Allison Barr
Conservative American Christianity insists we must not let the wider culture determine what we do, and yet we see that happening precisely in the patriarchy that characterizes much of American Christianity. So argues Dr. Barr, in her critique of the subordination of women in the church. Plus live satire from Tokens Show’s own Brother Preacher, aka Greg Lee. This and more, all playing off Dr. Barr’s book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
61 minutes | May 27, 2021
S3E15: Thou Shalt Not be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
Eugene Cho is a Korean-born immigrant to the United States and now activist and author. We discuss his moving and distressing childhood experiences at age six; his journey to Christianity; and how both those realities have given him insight and possibilities for service to the world, as well as put him at odds with both the right and the left in America.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
62 minutes | May 20, 2021
S3E14: The Soul of Shame: Curt Thompson
Psychiatrist Curt Thompson joins Lee to discuss his book The Soul of Shame. They discuss the mechanism of shame, how it impedes joy, connection, creativity and human flourishing; and how vulnerability subverts shame. Don’t just listen to this one. Take notes, and try it… But it’s not for the faint of heart.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
53 minutes | May 13, 2021
S3E13: Fear, Home and the Asian-American Experience: Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu
In light of the recent rise of anti-Asian-American hostility and violence, we interview Dr. Karen Korematsu, daughter of famed civil-rights activist Fred Korematsu, the namesake of the infamous 1944 Supreme Court Case Korematsu v. United States. Mr. Korematsu, a Japanese-American and American citizen, refused to comply with President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s executive order which would have forced his re-location to an American “concentration camp.” In addition, we talk to Korean-born activist Eugene Cho, on his moving experiences as an American immigrant. Plus, live musical performances by Buddy Greene and the Most Outstanding Horeb Mountain Boys.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
61 minutes | May 6, 2021
S3E12: The Gravity of Joy: Angela Williams Gorrell (with Miroslav Volf)
An interview with Angela Williams Gorrell, Professor of Practical Theology at Baylor University, and author of a new book entitled The Gravity of Joy: A Story of Being Lost and Found. Angela recounts her own experiences with the sudden, tragic, and nearly simultaneous losses of three family members; how America’s current crisis of despair can be traced and understood through suicide and addiction rates; and the surprising ways in which gateways to joy can be found in the midst of deep grief; plus, additional commentary from Angela’s former boss at Yale, Miroslav Volf, on the connection between joy and sorrow.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
62 minutes | Apr 29, 2021
S3E11: Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Du Mez
An interview with Kristin Du Mez, Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University and author of a provocative new book entitled Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation. In light of the fact that 81% of white evangelicals supposedly voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 election, many have tried to make sense of how “family values voters” could have supported Trump. Du Mez, in contrast, claims that this support of Trump was not in contradiction to, but consistent with, the deeper values of American evangelical Christianity. Regardless of your politics, you will not find this an episode that leaves you without some emotion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
57 minutes | Apr 22, 2021
S3E10: “The most polarized issue in the United States”: Katharine Hayhoe
An interview with Katharine Hayhoe, one of the leading climate scientists in the United States, and author of a soon-to-be-released book entitled Saving Us: A Climate Scientist’s Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World. Katharine and Lee discuss the supposed dichotomy between evangelical Christianity and climate science; the truth about some common climate change myths; and how Katharine, as an evangelical Christian herself, receives hate mail and death threats on an almost daily basis, and yet sees Christians as the perfect people to care about stewarding their responsibility to look after creation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
57 minutes | Apr 15, 2021
S3E9: The Collapse of the Biosphere: Peter Harris
An interview with Peter Harris, Anglican clergyman and founder of the highly esteemed Christian conservation non-profit A Rocha International. Peter and Lee discuss why the political polarization of the climate crisis in the United States is more an accident of history than a theological necessity; the ways in which fundamental Christian orthodoxy supports ecological conservation; and how, the preservation, or decimation, of much of the biosphere is dependent upon the choices of evangelical Christians.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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