53 minutes | Sep 20, 2022

Episode 512: “Changing How We Talk About Suicide and Care For Our Friends and Ourselves” with Shelby Rowe

How we talk about, approach, and care for suicide is a pretty big deal. Suicide is a tragic and intense topic, and it’s also a very real and human-centered topic. That’s why we want to explore the ways in which we can reframe and change how we address it in a more compassionate sense—and how we, on a person-to-person level, can care for ourselves, friends, and loved ones who might be thinking about or considering suicide. So today, we have the honor of hearing and learning from suicide prevention expert Shelby Rowe. Shelby will walk us through everything we mentioned and she’ll also touch on why the suicide rate is notably higher for different communities of people—specifically BIPOC communities. 


Shelby Rowe is an award-winning artist, mother of three sons, suicide attempt survivor, and director of one of the nation’s largest federally funded suicide prevention projects. She is the recipient of the 2021 American Association of Suicidology Transforming Lived Experience Award and the 2016 Chickasaw Nation Dynamic Woman of the Year. Ms. Rowe has been a leader in the suicide prevention movement at the local, state, and national levels since 2007.


This episode is a part of our You Are Not a Burden campaign in honor of September being Suicide Prevention Month. You can learn more about the campaign by going to youarenotaburden.com. 

Show Notes (Links of ours and guests):


Download a transcript of this episode at twloha.com/podcast.


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Visit our FIND HELP page of mental health resources at twloha.com/find-help/.


Get connected for free, 24/7 to a trained crisis counselor via Crisis Text Line by texting TWLOHA to 741741.


Connect with our team by emailing podcast@twloha.com.


Learn more about the podcast and previous episodes at twloha.com/podcast.

Download TWLOHA’s daily-use self-care app, The Hopeful, at twloha.com/thehopeful/

Learn about and connect with Shelby Rowe by going to https://www.shelbyrrowe.com/.


Read Dr. Joiner’s theory on suicide at https://twloha.com/blog/talking-about-suicide/ or Youarenotaburden.com.


Watch Insecure on HBO by visiting https://www.hbo.com/insecure


Watch Reservation Dogs on Hulu at https://press.hulu.com/shows/reservation-dogs/


Watch Rutherford Falls on Peacock by going to https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/rutherford-falls




This episode of the TWLOHA podcast was hosted by Chad Moses and produced by Rebecca Ebert. Music assistance was provided by James Likeness and Ben Tichenor. 

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