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This week’s Thought Row podcast guest is Maurice Quillinan from Ireland. He has studied at the Royal College of Art, London and the Ecole National Superieur de Arts in Paris. Maurice is best known in various countries around the world for his knowledge as a formidable art curator. He has staged art exhibitions in various countries. His own artwork has been widely exhibited and collected internationally.  We discuss his life in Limerick, Ireland as a curator of fine art and how he has managed to curate exhibitions in Ireland and in other countries. Maurice is extremely knowledgeable about curating art and has insightful thoughts and ideas about creativity to share with our listeners. Links for Maurice Quillinan Website: https://www.mauricequillinan.net/ Instagram:  @maurice_quillinan Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/maurice.quillinan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maurice-quillinan-8664a22b/   R: Hi everyone…And here we are…motivating you to live more creatively. I’m Rod Jones I: And I’m Inci Jones…Welcome to the Thought Row podcast. We invite you to subscribe wherever you listen. We are available virtually anywhere you listen to your podcasts.  R: That’s right Inci…I know people that want to think more creatively, will benefit from our weekly show. What are we discussing today?  I: Today we’re going to be discussing curating. Especially art curation. And we have an excellent guest we will be interviewing.  R: This is going to be very interesting . Now how about the quote for the week I: The beautiful thing about learning is nobody can take it away from you. BB King Discuss R: Before we get into our topic today, I thought it would be a good idea to tell people about why we produce the Thought Row podcast.  I: That’s a good idea Rod, let me first start by saying that on the Thought Row podcast we share with you the conversations we have with talented people from all over the world. We speak to real creatives that come from all walks of life, and are the real-life superstars pursuing their creative passions and dreams.  R: That’s right Inci. Also, it’s a place for everyone to learn how to be more creative in everything they do.  I: Our podcast is conversations between Rod and I and our guests. You will learn from their experiences, insights and travels in life. They cover a wide range of topics that I’m sure will be of great interest to anyone that is or wants to be more creative.  R: On with the show…curating…what does that mean to you Inci? I: Well…I know one thing for sure, in virtually all cases…there would not be art exhibitions. Someone has to select the art, organize it, be involved in the hanging and presentation.  I: Curating…what does that mean to you Rod?  R: Well…unfortunately you really covered much of what I would have thought to say. There have been some really famous curators. Many of them started out just curating their own personal collections. A good example would be Peggy Guggenheim. In fact, her collection just about got her disowned from the Guggenheim museum family.  Chat R: Art critics interestingly enough become sudo curators. As they form people’s opinions about a certain artist, then curators gravitate to those artists and build exhibitions.  I: A good example of that would probably be Clement Greenberg. He championed Jackson Pollock as the greatest artist of his generation.  R: That’s a good example. You could argue that between him, Lee Krasner, Peggy Guggenheim they made Jackson Pollock a household name in the art world.  I: Interesting, there are curators that curate performance art. Like Rose Lee Goldberg. And others…it’s not always about paintings. R: What about art dealers? They heavily influence people’s taste in art like Leo Castelli. He helped the contemporary art movement in America. And influenced it to be accepted in Europe.  Chat  I: Is it possible that anybody can become a curator?  R: I suppose so…it really gets down to your taste in art…or for that matter, you can curate a just about any type of collection.  I: I guess it is all about collections and presenting them in a cohesive, educational and innovative new way.  Chat I: I think now would be a good time to speak with our guest today who is Maurice Quillinan. I hope I pronounced his name correctly. He is Irish.  R: Maurice welcome our Talented friend,  welcome to the Thought Row Podcast both Inci and I have been really looking forward to chatting with you.  Maurice ~ It’s good to be with you today. ~ Basically you are saying “Hi” and whatever you are comfortable saying….so people know you are here with us.  I: You are a very creative and talented artist, and we are excited to talk to you about your career as a curator. But before we begin we like to start our show by asking what you had for breakfast. I: You live in a beautiful city in Ireland. Tell us a little bit about where you live.   R: Maurice why don’t you share with our listeners what a curator does.  R: We know when it comes to art you are extremely well educated. Has has that education impacted your curatorial ambitions?  I: When did you decide to curate art exhibitions? Was there one event in particular that inspired you?  R: Do you only curate painting? Or do you delve into other types of art curations?  I: Curating the artworks of artists must cause you to have to deal with many different personalities. Do you find that to be an easy task?  R: We all know that creative people have egos, some express them outwardly more than others. Does that ever influence how you select art pieces for an exhibition.  I: When you are wearing your curator’s hat…how does that influence your own artwork?  R: I think of you more as an artist because that’s what I so often see on your social media posts. And I might say, I can become a bit jealous, you are really quite good! How did you develop your style?  I: We understand that you have organized art exhibitions in other countries. Where were they held, and it seems to me it must have been a logistical nightmare.  R: It’s hard for most people to grasp, but curating an art show is not just about selecting some great works of art. There is a lot of work that goes into it. How do you manage that and still have time to create art for yourself and give precious time to your family?  I: If someone wanted to pursue a career as a curator, what would be your principal advice.  R: What is your philosophy when you approach the selecting and organizing of artworks for a show?  I: What is your workspace like?  R: Do you ever have doubts about what you’re doing creatively?  I: Where do you see yourself in 10 years? R: What do you want to be remembered by?  I: If you could sit on a park bench and chat with anyone from the past, who would it be?  R: Maurice, you shared some interesting thoughts and ideas about art, curating and creativity. We really appreciate you taking the time for this interview with Inci and I.  I: Just letting everyone know…if you want to know more about Maurice we will have links in the show notes and also under the show guest tab on Thought Row podcast.com. So everyone can visit Maurice’s website and learn more about him and be able to connect with him on social media.  R & I: Thanks and goodbye for now Maurice. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Episode 10 -When You’re Multi-Talented This week’s Thought Row podcast guest is Cris Santos. Cris has a Master degree in Linguistics and is a content creator/blogger that writes about travel, fashion and lifestyle. As a former model and lover of the arts, she decided to take control of her life and chase her dreams. In 2017 while taking pictures to create a book trailer for her book One Way Trip, she launched PhotosbyCris Designs. She also represents apparel lines that she helped develop and market. We discuss her life as an entrepreneur and a single mom of twin teenage boys. If you need positive and creative motivation to lift your spirits for the whole week, then tune in, wherever you listen to podcasts. Links for Cris Santos Photos By Cris Magazine: http://www.photosbycris.com.au/ Luna Blue Girl: https://lunabluegirl.com/ Cris Santos Styling: https://www.crissantosstyling.com.au/   Photosbycris Designs https://shopvida.com/collections/cris-a-santos-photosbycris https://www.redbubble.com/shop/photosbycris https://www.zazzle.com/store/photosbycris     R: Hi everyone…And here we are…motivating you to live more creatively. I’m Rod Jones I: And I’m Inci Jones…Welcome to the Thought Row podcast. We invite you to subscribe wherever you listen. We are available virtually anywhere you listen to your podcasts.  R: That’s right Inci…I know people that want to think more creatively, will benefit from our weekly show. What are we discussing today?  I: Today we’re going to talk about when you are creative in multiple ways…and we’re going to have a special guest who is one of those lucky people that is blessed with talent in so many ways.  R: This is going to be very interesting Inci. Now how about the quote for the week. I: Well because it’s Valentine’s week, this one is kind of special. Here it is: “Love is like a beautiful flower which I may not touch, but whose fragrance makes the garden a place of delight just the same.” — Helen Keller R: That is a beautiful quote from someone who gave and shared courage to millions of people. Discuss – Anne Sullivan R: what about creative people in general? I: When it comes to people who seem to be creative in everything they touch, I guess we all can’t be like Leonardo DaVinci.  R: He is one of the top when it comes to creativity. But I think a lot of that had to do with his scientific mind where he was just curious about everything. Which in itself is total creativity.  Discuss – creative work space I: In today’s world there are people that excel in one creative endeavor only to find that they’re really quite good in other areas.  R: A good example of creativity are novelists. When I was reading about some of their lives, I discovered that quite a few were very accomplished painters.  Discuss – actors that became painters Tony Curtis, Gene Hackman, Anthony Hopkins and Jane Seymour. Johnny Cash – they have an edge. Frank Sinatra getting a cover of a magazine for photography.  Interview questions:  I: Welcome to Thought Row Cris. We have so many questions for you because you have so many facets to your creativity. And our listeners are excited to hear what you have to say.  I: You are very creative and very talented in so many different areas, from content creation, language, travel, fashion, photography and you are even a book author. Plus we need to mention you have been a fashion model. All this is built around Photos by Cris designs – which is your brand.  R: First we wanted to ask you…what did you have for breakfast today?  R: You have managed to become an expert in so many beauty and lifestyle categories. Most people would be happy just to be successful in one. What is your secret to keeping it all in motion?  I: When it comes to clothing, what is your favorite to market and what is your favorite to personally wear? R: You must have a very special ability to market your thoughts, ideas and products. What do you attribute that business talent to?  I: Do you have a health routine that gives you the energy and mental stamina that you need? I: Do you have tips on how you keep yourself looking so radiant?  R: We know you are a single mother with twin boys that are teens now. How do you manage to mom and still attend to all of your businesses?  I: You live in Australia, but you have managed to connect with, and market to people from all over the world. How have you managed this?  R: Tell us about the Luna Blue Girl Shop. I: Everything you do has a luxury look to it. Does that fit into your creative motivation and philosophy?  R: What is your work space like?  I: What do you want to be known for when it comes to a luxury lifestyle that people can achieve?  R: If someone wanted to create the lifestyle you have built for yourself, what would be your #1 suggestion?  I: We know everything you do requires a lot of physical and mental energy. What is your secret to staying motivated?  R: Do you ever have doubts about what you’re doing? I: How do you keep yourself in a positive mindset to keep everything in perspective? R: We understand that you have written several books. When did you find time to accomplish that goal?  I: Where do you see yourself 10 years from now?  R: What do you want to be best remembered by? I: If you could sit on a park bench and chat with anybody from the past…who would it be?  Discuss comment Close interview –  R: It’s been so exciting to chat with you today Cris. I: Just letting everyone know…If you want to know more about Cris…We will have links in the show notes and also under the show guest tab on Thought Row podcast.com – so everyone can visit Cris’s websites and learn more about her and connect with her on social media.  Thanks Cris – Bye   Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Episode 9: The Creative Art of Junk Journaling Todays episode features A.K. Fielding. Angelina discusses Junk Journaling and the creative process plus its use of many creative skills. She shares how it can inspire creativity in your life. A little about A.K. Fielding: She is academically trained in research and writing as an historian, she also a self-taught artist. In recent years, she forged together her love of writing about early American history and art to create works that she hopes will inspire people to study America’s rich past. As an independent historian, she has served as a featured speaker at various engagements to educate people on topics related to early American history. A.K. Fieldings articles can be found in several publications, and my art has been showcased in various exhibitions. She is am currently painting moments in early American history; producing a new line of handmade stationery products; researching, and writing about the early Republic. A.K. Fielding’s upcoming book, Rough Diamond:  The Life & Times of  Colonel William Stephen Hamilton, is a biography of a son of Alexander & Elizabeth Hamilton and will be released June, 2021. Trehan’s Treasures is the name of her studio and represents all her art and writings.   Show Notes:    I: Hi Angelina…welcome to the Thought Row podcast. R: We’re so glad we have the opportunity to chat with you today. I: What did you have for breakfast today?  Discuss R: We know you are very talented in so many areas. You are an artist, an historian, a writer and you create beautiful junk journals. Today we’d like to start out by talking to you about the journals. R:  What exactly is junk journaling  A: Junk Journaling essentially consists of using any and all material that would be deemed “junk” in a journal to create something memorable. So re-using and re-purposing trash and creating something beautiful and interesting to the individual keeping the journal. I: What is the philosophy behind junk journaling A: My philosophy is to preserve items that no one wants anymore. To re-create something wonderful out of “junk.” Because even the junk has some history attached to it. I am hoping to save the piece and thereby its history. R: You are a historian, non-fiction writer and artist which one of your talents has been the most beneficial when you create your journals. A: I would say the combination of being an historian and artist both go hand-in-hand in what I create. My background in history helps me to look for value in objects….that are worth preserving…my artistic side pulls it all together to create something unique and special. I: What materials do you use when you create new journals A: I use vintage fabric, papers, jewelry. I also use paints, inks, craft items such as beads, flowers, vintage doilies and found objects. R: Do you offer your journals for sale?A: Yes, I do. They are available through my secure website:  www.trehanstreasures.com and on e-bay at Trehan’s Treasures. I: How many different materials do you use when creating a journal? A: Depending on the journal I am making…it ranges…Some journals have coffee or tea stained plain paper sheets, others may have decorated paper including hand-painted or sewn with fabric or lace.  R: How does journaling help with people that are under a lot of stress. A: Journaling is a great way to de-stress. It allows the person their own personal and private space to express whatever they are feeling or going through. They can paint, sketch, write, take photos and do just about anything in their journal to express what they are going through…thereby enabling themselves to be free of the stressful experiences in their lives.  Junk journaling offers people an opportunity to explore their own inward experiences and project them outwards in a positive, productive, and creative way. R: Is junk journaling just for women? A: Junk journaling is for anyone who wants to use a creative way to express themselves.  I: If we started to build a journal today what materials would I need. A: For the simplest journal, you would need paper for sheets inside the journal…either fabric, or cardboard and paper for the front and back cover. A needle and some thread to bind the journal. That would be sufficient to get a journal that you could add to as you begin working in it. R: Do you consider journaling to be an art form, and can you picture a day when you see a museum exhibit. A: I do feel journaling is an art form because it is a mode of expressing oneself creatively. There are museums in the US that have held exhibitions that showcased journals. In journaling you are only limited by your own imagination. Artists have used journals forever. Junk journals are no different. An artist can use a junk journal (I do) to jot down ideas whether by writing about them or sketching ideas out. These journals are made up of things people may consider junk but they can actually be quite beautiful and worthy of a show of their own. I: Junk journals have themes and if so what are they based on. A: Again, junk journals, as with any other creative art form can be anything you want them to be. So I can have a junk journal that is full of ideas for my next series of paintings. Another junk journal could be simply a journal where I put in everything in my favorite color.  Themes vary based on the person who is making the journal. R: What is the preparation process for making a beautiful journal? A: I begin with coffee or tea staining the interior papers. Sometimes I have used other methods of staining paper including avocados, vegetables, flowers or paint. Once these sheets are ready, I choose fabric for the cover and co-ordinate it with the thread to bind the journal together. I then select other papers and items that I will include in the junk journal. These are all inserted during and after the journal is prepared. R: What goes on inside your mind or what do you think about when you’re making a journal? A: I begin with an idea. For instance, I could choose a nature theme. Then I gather all my materials that fit that idea or theme. Once I have my materials together, I start to put the journal together. Sometimes I work through the idea from the beginning to the end with what I have gathered together. Other times I may add or subtract from my stack depending on how the journal is progressing. My ideas come from my own memories or it may be something that inspired me – a quote, a scene in nature, a painting. I: What do people think about when they see one of your journals, what do you want them to see and feel. A: I have had all sorts of reactions from people. Mostly they admire the journals they see. Many have expressed a sense of joy at seeing me using a vintage fabric on the cover of one of my journals. Or they may see a tag inside the journal that I made using vintage paper – which brings back cherished memories for them. It is crucial to me in all my work – art, writing or journal making to get people to embrace history…so when I get this kind of response where someone makes a connection with one of my journals because it brought back a wonderful memory to them…then I feel that I did my job well. R: Building each Journal is a very tactile process. Do you think it improves eye hand coordination? A: Absolutely. I use a sewing machine in some cases but I also hand sew my journals. Not only do you need to be able to handle a needle and thread when making journals but you also need to have an eye for what looks both aesthetically pleasing and is practically sound and makes the journal a sturdy purchase. I: When it comes to your creative life what do you want to be best known for? A: An historian and an artist. R: You are very talented in so many avenues… What impact does journaling have on your creative disciplines? A: I personally love journals and use them both as a writer and an artist. The journal making actually is simply an extension of what I was already doing for myself. Making journals allows me to keep things in balance. When I need a break from writing or painting, I make journals and vice versa. Having a journal has been part of my life since I was young. I make these journals so that others may have a similar experience of joy that I feel when I am working in my journal. I: Give us an example of a day in the life of Angelina Fielding. A: I love to paint in natural light. So, if it is a good sunny day, I will paint most of that day until the sun goes down. Once the sun is down, I come up for air long enough to take care of things I need to do (chores, errands, logistical work for Trehan’s Treasures…then it is back to work…most of the night I work on my book or articles. I don’t sleep much…4 hours is a good night for me…there are more nights when I am up working than sleeping. R: Thank you for joining us today you have been a most insightful guest and we know that creative people will benefit from the thoughts and ideas you’ve shared.  I: Thank you Angelina  Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

This episode features Gene Sasse. Gene shares his experiences as the Founder and Director of the Sasse Museum of Art and the road to making the Southern California museum a success, all the while he operates his  successful commercial photography business. If you need positive and creative motivation to lift your spirits for the whole week. Sasse Museum of Art Website: https://sasseartmuseum.org/  Blog: https://sasseartmuseum.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sasseartmuseum/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SasseMuseumofArt/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sasseartmuseum/   R: And here are…motivating you to live more creatively. I’m Rod Jones I: And I’m Inci Jones…Welcome to the Thought Row podcast. Let’s start with a motivational quote.  R: What do you have for us today Inci?  I: This quote was given to us by our guest today. And it’s a good one! Quote: Don’t say you don’t have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Hellen Keller, Pasteur, Michelangelo, Mother Teresa, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson and Albert Einstein. ~ H. Jackson Brown Jr.  R: Discuss the quote. I: Today we’re going to talk about art museums.  R: And there’s no shortage of great art museums around the world. What is your favorite art museum? What is your favorite art museum in the United States?  I: Well…my favorite museum is the Musee de Orsay in Paris.  Discuss I: What is your favorite museum Rod?  R: I’m not sure I know how to pronounce it…it’s in Zurich and I remember we had to walk thru neighborhoods to get to it. And unfortunately they were robbed some years later after our visit. They lost hundreds of millions of dollars in fine art.  R: My favorite museum in the United States is the Huntington Library. And I especially like the literature and they have an original copy of Audubon’s book with incredible illustrations on birds.  R: What is your favorite museum here in the U.S.? I: My favorite is the Hammer in West L.A. I really enjoy the layout, and I particularly like their little room down stairs with new artists exhibiting. Always so fresh and exciting to see what is there.  Discuss R: One of the reasons…and there are many, why museums are a wonderful place to look at original art. You lose everything when you try and look at a piece of art on a computer or mobile device.  I: I completely agree with you Rod. I know for me, I derive a tremendous amount pleasure looking at an original piece of art. Especially if I have the luxury of visually exploring it by myself.  Discuss – spiritual connection R: I know when Inci & I photograph our art to post on our websites and social media, we have to do a little bit of tweaking to try and get the best rendition to be seen online. It never fully translates.  I: I personally have always been able to feel a great deal of energy when viewing a painting in person. Probably the one that hit me deeply was the self portrait of Van Gogh at the Musee de Orsay in Paris.  Discuss I: There is a relatively new museum in Southern California that is in its seventh year. It’s called the Sasse Museum of Art.  R: That’s the museum that was founded by Gene Sasse.  I: Who we are delighted to have as our guest today.  R: Hi Gene…welcome to Thought Row podcast.  I: Hi Gene…good to have you here today…we always like to start out with a tough question…so here you go. What did you have for breakfast this morning?  (a few mins of casual conversation before we start the interview) R: You have been managing dual careers, one as a commercial photographer and the second as the Founder and Director of the Sasse Museum of Art. How do those two work together?  I: As a commercial photographer you have had to deal with many different client personalities. How has that prepared you for dealing with the personalities of artists?  R: We understand that you have been a commercial photographer your whole adult life. Then you decided to build an art museum.Why did you decide to do this? Why did you decide to do this? In retrospect, do you think that was a good decision? I: Running an art museum would be considered by most like running any business. But what you do you think has been your greatest challenge? R: We’ve learned that you have recently made the decision to include artists from around the world in your exhibitions and art talks. Was this always part of your plan for the Sasse Museum of Art?  I: Besides the constraints of curating shows from artists in different time zones, how have you managed to make that work for you?  I: Has your online presence been a productive tool?  R: People have been referring to the Sasse Museum of Art as the Sasse. It’s very catchy. What are your thoughts on that particular take on the museum’s name? R: Like all museums, I know you have probably had to address the capital needs to keep the museum open. If someone wanted to start an art museum today, what would be your #1 recommendation?  I: How many pieces of art do you have in your permanent collection? And are they all paintings, or do you have photography and sculptural pieces.  I: What is the most prized piece of art the Sasse museum has in its collection?  R: This may be a bit personal but, running an art museum and continuing your occupation as a commercial photographer, do you find it difficult to manage both? And how does it impact your social life?  I: We are sure you have ambitions for the Sasse Museum of Art. Could you share with us your top 3 goals for 2021?  R: If you had to build an art museum again, what would be the #1 thing you would avoid? I: It’s obvious to us and everyone that has had the opportunity to meet with you or work with you that you are passionate when it comes to exhibiting creativity. Over the last several years what would you consider to be your greatest personal reward? R: Thank you so much Gene for your time today. Very insightful.  I: We hope that everyone has the opportunity to ultimately visit the Sasse Museum.  R: But if you can’t you can visit it at: Sasse Art Museum.Org  I: We will post all of the museum’s contact information in show notes. R: Thanks again Gene. Bye for now.  Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Episode 7: Art Community, Family & Friends    R: And here we are… motivating you to live more creatively. I’m Rod Jones    I: And I’m Inci Jones…  Welcome to the Thought Row podcast. Let’s start with a motivational quote.   R: What do you have for us today Inci?    Quote: There are friends, there’s family, and then there are friends that become family.   Discuss –    R: It’s always interesting the relationships we develop once we pursue any creative discipline.    Discuss   I: It seems like our creative lives start out very young, and they can be nurtured by a parent or they can be stifled by a well-meaning parent.    Discuss   R: Historically some of the most talented people in the world did not receive any kind of support from their families.    Discuss   I: It’s not unusual for creative people to seek out other creative people for support.    R: What about mentors? People may deny it, but almost everyone has had at least one mentor, even if it was a grade school teacher that taught you the joys of finger painting.    Discuss   R: All too often, our creative endeavors are a solo performance. We live within ourselves.   Discuss   I: This is where group creative activities can be helpful to feel less isolated and form friendships that are mutually beneficial and satisfying.    Discuss   R: There was a reason why all of the artists that became extremely well-known in the mid-century had a lot to do with them battling each other at the Cedar Tavern in NY and I’m sure a lot of alcohol consumption made for some pretty spirited debates.   Discuss   I: It’s funny how alcohol can loosen up people and voicing their opinions when it comes to their form of creativity.    Discuss   R: When it comes to great composers like Mozart he wasn’t afraid to party. But also gave him an opportunity to network.   Discuss   I: What about artist co-ops? Where a bunch of artists open a gallery or even set up a paint shop?    Discuss   R: Personally I have not enjoyed hanging out with other artists. I do like chatting with writers. They seem to be more interesting, and if nothing else, it’s fun to listen to their vocabulary.    R: The great conductor Arthur Fiedler who conducted the Boston Pops for 50 years, did not like hanging out with musicians. He found them boring and he would prefer to go over to a local fire station and hang out with firemen.    Discuss   Sonia Interview   I: Well our guest today is VERY involved in her local artist community. And she was lucky enough to have a very supporting family.    R: Tell everyone who our guest is today Inci.   I: Her name is Sonia Bublaitis and she lives in the England.    R: Hi Sonia welcome to the Thought Row podcast. Both Inci & I are very pleased to have you as one of our guests.    I: Hi Sonia, it’s good to have you on the show today. How are you doing?    R: We really want to ask a tough question in the beginning…what did you have for breakfast today?    I: I have to admit, Rod had never really pronounced your last name correctly. I know it as Sonia Bublaitis…I have to ask though, what is the heritage of your last name?    R: Since we are a global community…what city in the UK do you reside?    I: You seem to have a lot of artist friends that are close by…have you in the past painted with any of them or created art with them?    R: How has the art community helped to support you in your creative process?   I: Do you feel that it is important for artists to connect with other artists?    R: When did you first have the ambition to be an artist?    I: You seem to be very active in your creative community. Tell us about what you like and dislike about going to the various local art groups.    R: What do you attribute to your goal in creating the artistic style?   I: What do you want to be best known for?    R: We met you on social media and have had the opportunity to see posts about your art. Has social media been a good platform for you?    R: I know you created art with your mom and we were familiar with the art of her’s that you shared on social media. What kind of creative relationship did you have with her?    I: You have not only been very knowledgeable but you’re such a warm and friendly person to chat with.    I: We are so glad you were able to be on this podcast with us.    R: It was a real pleasure Sonia…looking forward to speaking with you again.   I: She definitely was a great guest and had some good thoughts on how you can incorporate a community into your art process. And how having a supportive cadre of creative friends is important and vital in your life.    R: Next week we’re going to have a surprise guest so stay tuned I know you’ll enjoy what they have to say.  Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

  Thought Row Episode 6: Vanity of Art    R: Hi everybody…welcome to the Thought Row podcast. We start our podcast with a quote from Inci. What is our quote for the day.   I: Okay here is our quote for the day. Quote: The art of a people is a true mirror to their minds – J. Nehru   R: Today we are going to talk about the Vanity of art. You may think it’s vain to be vain.    I: I can just imagine the Mona Lisa in the privacy of her boudoir, “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the most famous woman of all.” And no one would be surprised if the mirror responded to the lovely Mona, “Of course you are my dear, and you may always be!”   R: Famous works of art share one thing in common, they have all earned the right to project vanity.  R: These works of art constantly receive praise, not only from those who have the honor to stand before them, but think about all of the written histories outlining how they were made and by whom.   I: If you were the actual painting created by Leonardo da Vinci of the Mona Lisa, and you were hanging in the Louvre in Paris, and every day the museum was open, you would be looking out over a sea of humanity, lobbying for a perfect position to capture you and them in a selfie.    R: Now there you may find some social media vanity of the infamous; “I was there, see here’s proof for all my friends and followers to see.” R: Both Inci and I had the good fortune to see the Mona Lisa at the Louvre. Two things stood out, one – it’s a very small painting, albeit an excellent one. Secondly, although we got there early, the crowds grew significantly.  R: And then the picture taking…it seems like everyone in the world wants a photograph of them in front of the Mona Lisa. Which in some respects is kind of sad, because there is a huge amount of spectacular art throughout the Louvre.    I: I also remember when Rod & I stood in front of the statue of David created by Michelangelo, located in the Accademia Gallery of Florence. Now there is some vanity proudly on display. It overpowers all mere mortals and can be the source of much envy.  I: There’s only one way to photograph this monolithic man and that is straight up… If you’re lucky when you create a selfie, you will capture your head and most of his torso, it’s hard to get back far enough to do much else.   R: Rod comment – You don’t really realize just what a great chunk of marble he carved out a tower of a man.    I: The artist to create these masterful works of art have the most vain-ish thoughts once they complete the work, especially as they witness much profound admiration. I: Of course it’s well-deserved, if you stand before the Pieta in St. Peter’s Basilica Vatican City, you may lose your breath. It’s beyond astonishing and hard to believe one man created it with a chisel and a mallet.   R: It’s pretty amazing the Vatican has one of the largest collections of art in the world.  I: Now let’s fast forward a few hundred years and you have contemporary artists…   R: Like Jackson Pollock…and his famous work entitled, Number 1 (Lavender Mist). The colors alone reeked of vanity, but not so much for the artist, he was a tortured man, experiencing the highest highs and the lowest lows.  R: When he was featured in Life magazine he basked in the glory. That issue featured a cover photo of Betty Parsons, who was an early promoter of Abstract Expressionism.  R: It gave the readers, especially struggling artists, something to envy, with every desire to be in total possession of their own creative vanity.   I: And…You may be thinking that we skipped over Vincent van Gogh or perhaps even Picasso or the artist that demonstrated vanity in its highest form: Rembrandt, the one who painted a portrait of himself nearly every year of his life.  I:Was that vanity or was he just being a good documentarian for future art critics to discuss?   R: Rod comments – If anything you have the opportunity to watch him age.    I: Okay, so Vincent van Gogh was a famous artist and arguably one of the best, although Cezanne is considered to be one of the greatest, and he didn’t have to fiddle with bandaging his right ear. R: It’s hard to say what the real truth was regarding Van Gogh and his partially severed ear. Rumor has it there was a woman involved.  I: Whatever caused it, it made him even more famous, so much so he even created a painting with his head bandaged.    R: I put a male artist and a woman artist at the top of the vanity tree, and I’m sure there will be plenty of, “Oh yeah’s,” in these two prominent artists …they are Pablo Picasso and Georgia O’Keefe. Both creatively notorious, and both were not shy about their successes.  R: One used her vanity to keep her sister from ever becoming an artist. The other used his notoriety to keep the mother of two of his children Claude and Paloma from ever having the art world shine its lights on her.  R: But later in her life Françoise Gilot became a highly respected artist, by the way I had the opportunity to meet with her some years ago when she was married to Jonas Salk, the guy who helped save the world from the devastating disease of polio.   I: The vanities in the art world have no shortcomings.  I: Vanity is a free agent and can possess an actual painting itself, and the artist that created it.  I: At the top of that vanity triad,  just maybe the collector, the one that can spend millions on works of art at auction.   R: Every artist is vain, they may not be quick to acknowledge that; after all it does take a lot of courage and skill to create a pleasing work of art, no matter what the medium.  R:When the creator is sequestered in the studio and no one is there to read their mind, you can be sure that there are a myriad of thoughts of self aggrandizement.  R: Or as I like to say in the privacy of my own studio “Delusions of grandeur.”   I: My thoughts jump all over the place…(ad lib).    I: The vanity of art, it was, it is, and it always will be… A mission is to motivate; and judging from all of the great art, and the great artists that created those works, we must give a pronounced amount of vanity to the collectors, that have the wherewithal to collect it and the palaces to showcase, the vanity of art seems to be doing a pretty good job of it.   R: We all have the capacity to be vain about something in our lives, you may be accused of having an overinflated ego, but psychologists tell us this may be healthy, and it builds self-esteem.  R: The vanity of art builds self-esteem for the creators, and that is unquestionably worth the price of admission to the museum’s of vanity.    R: What do you think Inci?  I: Ad lib about thoughts… I:  What do you think Rod  R: (ad lib) & finish up…   I: Let us know your thoughts about the vanity of art. Do you think you’re vain? Do you think it’s necessary to be vain as an artist? Is being vain negative?    R: It’s going to be interesting to read the feedback on this one. Cause for all practical purposes, the word vanity has a bad connotation.  R: What are for next week’s podcast Inci?  I: Next week our topic will be: Art community and what are the pros & cons of hanging around fellow artists.  R: I believe we are also going to have a special guest, her name is?  I: We’re going to be interviewing an England based artist Sonia Bubilitis. Who is not only talented, but she is active in her community of fellow artists.  R: I’m looking forward to this…I am familiar with Sonia’s art and I know she’s an exceptionally kind person.  I: If you’re into creativity and you’d like to know more about how to thrive in a community environment you’ll find this podcast insightful and interesting.  Thank you for tuning into our podcast. Remember to subscribe to the Thought Row Podcast where ever you listen to podcast. So it’s bye for now from Rod and me…have a great day.   Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Episode 5: Creative Chaos  R: Hi everyone…welcome to the Thought Row podcast. As you know we start the podcast with an inspirational quote. So what do you have for us today Inci? Quote of the Day: Imagination is more important than knowledge – Albert Einstein  Discussion on quote of the day R: Tell our listeners about the topic for today.  I: Our topic today is Creative Chaos…and we are going to share with you some positive thoughts and ideas on what you can do about it. I know you have some thoughts about this Rod…why don’t you start out? R: Creative chaos is no stranger to any of us. Worry, stress, anxiety, and a whole host of other robbers of our peace and contentment are constantly running in the background, especially when we’re trying to be creative.  R: What are your thoughts about Creative Chaos? I know you recently made a blog post entitled Heart of a Muse…does it shed light on today’s topic.  I: One of the main points that I think exemplifies Creative Chaos is how we all seem to come up with tasks that are not always pleasant, but somehow seem to be important enough to interfere with pursuing our creative projects.  R: It seems like everyone shares the burden of things we want to do versus the things that we should or ought to do.  I: I feel like this really applies to women more so than men. I know men always put work and business first, so they can provide for their families. But women always seem to have the responsibility of taking care of all the things that are time robbers. Anywhere from cooking to doing the laundry. And let’s don’t forget keeping our homes tidy.  R: Well, one major consideration for women is that a lot of them work or have businesses to run. And I suspect in most homes the burden of maintaining the household ends up more on the shoulders of women. Which greatly impacts their ability to think and be creative within anything considered to be artistic.  R: I have a question for you…When do you think this Creative Chaos that affects all of our creative lives starts?  I: Theologians suggest it may have happened around the time someone took a bite out of an apple, in a garden long ago. We may never know for sure when creative chaos started, but there’s one thing absolutely sure, creative chaos is alive and well and impacts all of us.  R: Somehow I always had the impression that it had something to do with man giving up one of his ribs.  I: Really? There would be no man…if it wasn’t for us women.  R: Ok…you win. Either way this Creative Chaos that everyone experiences impacts people that try their best to be creative. But when you think about it, the whole universe is in a constant state of chaos. But somehow it manages to bring life to the planets or at least to our planet, which set the stage for men and women to become artistically creative.  I: As man has evolved he has shown signs from the earliest man to today that we are all creative in something. Whoever those people were that painted the cave walls in Liseaux, France and other locations arguably were excellent artists and they apparently knew their subjects well.  R: I think that’s why you and I both become uncomfortable when we hear people say that they’re not creative. Granted…it may be difficult to be creative all the time when our lives are chaotic. But the reality is that everyone is creative. Just look at someone you know who makes the best chocolate cake or apple pie. Not only is it delicious and made with love, but it oozes creativity.  I: Talk about Creative Chaos…and how it impacts everyone’s creativity…I have to say what’s been going on around the world with the pandemic has devastated a lot of people’s ambitions to be creative. It’s almost impossible to shift your thinking into positive thoughts to channel your creativity.  R: It’s truly unfortunate that so many venues where people go to be inspired creatively like museums and concerts and others are shut down. You can’t even realistically hang out with fellow creatives.  I: I guess it’s forced many people to look to the Internet for their creative feedback.  R: Yes, and reading books. Book sales are up, which in my way of thinking is probably better to read than sitting around watching TV.  I: Listening to music for me is inspiring and meditative and helps relieve stress. It seems like after I relax with good music or listen to a meditation, I’m all charged up and head to my studio to paint.  R: Does it work for you? It doesn’t always work for me…listening to music when you are painting or for that matter writing. I know some people swear by it. But I generally like to be immersed in my own thoughts.  I: I like to wear my headset. I mix paints and onto the canvas they go. I know you and I listen to different types of music. But for me I like to listen to Pop, Jazz, Turkish music, classical, all kinds of music really.  R: As you know, I lean towards classical music, when I do listen to music when painting. When I’m writing I like it quiet. Although, there seems to be a squirrel that comes up to the window and for some reason is fascinated by me sitting there writing.  I: You’re lucky…occasionally a raven sits outside my window while I am busily writing. And of course he has to blurt out his loud cawing which shows me he wants me to pay attention to him and get my face out of the computer. And you know what? He always succeeds.  R: Let’s trade…I will give you two squirrels for one raven.  R: Our imaginations can create or disperse creativity. It may be a normal state for some, but creativity does not like chaos. And it certainly doesn’t function well when the mind is filled with anxiety.  I: Anxiety…everyone becomes anxious. It can last a few minutes or it can last a week or more. It’s very unfortunate and a huge robber of creativity. Not to mention it steals joy and quite frankly it makes people not much fun to be around.  R: Anxieties’ closest cousin is worry. Those two seem to hang out together. Ralph Waldo Emerson has a quote I particularly like, “ A man is but the product of his thoughts.”. Which simply means that if you’re thinking about negative stuff, it’s pretty hard for positive creative thoughts to come to surface.  I: I think Rod you and I seem to be the most creative when we are feeling happy and not worried or have anxiety. But realistically that’s not always the case. I wish for everyone that they can learn how to push away all that creative chaos and focus on being creative in everything they do. It’s actually a lot of fun and very rewarding.  I: I’ve seen and I’ve read about people that thrive on creative chaos. It somehow brings out the best ideas in them. Like some song writers that have to go through angst to write a love song or certain painters or writers that create out of their suffering.  R: It seems to me…that some artistic mediums will function better without chaos. A perfect example of this is…if you are a glass blower or your firing pottery in a kiln or you working at a foundry pouring a sculpture…you definitely cannot survive by thinking negatively, you have to concentrate on what you are doing so you don’t get hurt. But, so many artistic endeavors allow negative thoughts to flow in. Those artists, like you pointed out, Inci thrive on chaos. But they generally don’t have to worry about getting burnt by a hot blazing furnace.  I: We all mess up creatively, which in itself guarantees chaos. You may be working on a painting and all of a sudden you realize…it’s not working. Or..like you like to say Rod, you’re baking a cake and it doesn’t rise. You have a matzo cake. LOL…No doubt people that are writers may have it a little easier, they can be anxious and frustrated, but they can always hit the delete button and clean up their expressive expletives rather quickly.  R: Let’s talk about thoughtful creative chaos. Which I happen to think is a real thing. But like everything else in our creative lives it can be turned into a tool for good hearted freshness, pushing away imaginative staleness. When we’re not creative, but our mind starts giving us a hard time because we are not living, acting or being creative. But the mere fact that we are uncomfortable, at least forces us to come up with strategies to get back into the game of creativity.  I: You know what Rod I’ve discovered that creative chaos is sharable. I can be feeling at the top of my game and having all these beautiful imaginative thoughts only to have someone rain on my parade with their anxieties and now I have a tendency to become a party to their anxiety.  R: You wouldn’t be referring to me…are you? I know that I can have emotional ups and downs and I am not always good at keeping them to myself. If nothing else you know me well enough to pick up on the fact that I’m being anxious and stressed.  I: Yes, but I do the same to you. But that doesn’t seem to bother me as much as when someone outside of our immediate family decides to unload. In fact, you can even pick it up pretty intensely on FB. A bad comment or somebody’s gripe session can really bring you down. R: Inci and I are very careful what we allow into our lives. Negative people are not welcome. It’s not that we are trying to be uncaring or mean. But neither one of us have ever been able to solve their problems, especially because for all practical purposes they really don’t want them solved.  I: That’s exactly right… outside influences from other people can really impact a person’s creative output. But nothing is worse than getting sucked into the news… it probably the #1 source of agitation for many people these days.  R: Negativity doesn’t elevate anyone. And it is certainly disastrous when it occupies a creative mind. You will never totally remove it completely from your thoughts. In fact, psychologists say it’s wired into our brains as a protective mechanism. Think about when you are walking through the jungle and you hear a panther growling in the bushes near you. I can assure you that you will be stressed and have a lot of anxiety which is your cue to get the heck out of there. This is one time when you are lucky to act on those anxious stressful feelings.  I: Look at your own creative chaos, but do not be too judgemental of yourself, because that in itself brings on more negativity. Chaos in the right hands give birth to creativity in all of its beauty and glorious outcomes. After all, the beautiful planet we thrive on was the genesis of a massive amount of chaos. And don’t know about you, but I can’t think of a better place to be creative.  R: Like the opening line in the book “Tale of Two Cities” by Dickens, “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.” But let’s all try and make the worst of times the staging ground for the best of times. We all have choices and we all have ups and downs, but give yourself absolute permission to be happy and creative.  I: This was very timely and interesting to discuss and I hope that you were able to pick up something helpful. Let us know what you think about creative chaos on our website at ThoughtRowPodcast.com on the contact form tab. We will try and share some of your thoughts. I: Next week we are going to discuss Vanity of Art, which is something that every creative person deals with. From the costume and set designers at the Metropolitan Opera or La Scala – if you wish, to a chef creating a souffle with just the right timing and presentation. Vanity has such an interesting connotation is it a positive or negative? We’ll be discussing this on our next podcast.  R: This is going to be an interesting topic. Think about likes on social media…how does that affect you?  Thank you for tuning into our podcast. Remember to subscribe to the Thought Row Podcast where ever you listen to podcast. So it’s bye for now from Rod and me…have a great day.       Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Podcast Episode 4: A Conversation with CM Curtis Best Selling Amazon Author on his success story and advice to upcoming writers and authors.  Topics that are discussed:  Inci : Thought Row listeners today we have a formidable writer CM Curtis. He has published 11 fiction novels and 5 of them have been #1 bestsellers on Amazon. Others have managed to reach the #2 spot. And I want to add…I am currently reading on Kindle “The Three Lives of David Kelly”, which we will discuss later. Rod: Thank you for being with us, do you mind if Inci and I call you Craig? We know that you write under the pen name of CM Curtis.  We have a really tough question to start off with for you… I know our listeners will want to know. What did you have for breakfast today?  What is your favorite topic to write about?   What was the very first book that you published?  The Three Lives of David Kelly is a book that I am currently reading…and it is so emotional and insightful on the human-ness of how we perceive our lives and how our lives affect others. Craig, were there any real life stories that inspired you.  Every writer has advice for other writers, and I know you are developing a course for writers. What would be your best advice for new writers… and can you give that to us in three words or less. I know your wife was your chief transcriber, could you tell us how that worked for you?  Considering your favorite writing genre, what really got you in the frame of mind to become a writer. How much research do you do prior to the start of a book?   How much background research do you do on your characters that you write about?  You said you like writing Western novels, can you imagine the day when one of those or one of your other books are turned into a movie? Who is your favorite Western author? Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Episode 3: 20 Thoughts and Ideas to Help You Stay in a Creative Frame of Mind All Day Long   Quote of the Week:    Energy is the key to creativity, energy is the key to life – William Shatner   20 Suggestions on how you can spark creativity:   I: Today as promised, Rod and I are going to give you 20 suggestions on how you can spark your creativity everyday.    R:  Just going over these has helped me to re-think some of the good habits and bad habits that I’ve picked up. Inci what is the first one on our list?   The value of making your bed every morning.   A good night’s sleep is not only good for your health, but is good for your brain, and gives you the opportunity to dream more creatively.   While we’re still in the bedroom, nighttime distractions can sabotage healthy sleep and productive dream states. It’s best not to have a TV in your bedroom or at least shut it off two hours before you get in bed.   Mobile phones have changed everything when it comes to how we communicate and they certainly can be used for personal security. But again, to encourage the best possible sleep, you may want to take your mobile phone and put it outside your bedroom but nearby if there’s an emergency you’ll still be able to hear it. Mobile phones on your nightstand give off energy all night long and because they are such an extension of everything we do your mind somehow manages to maintain a connection even while you or it is sleeping.   Light exercise seems to do the best. Just going for a walk a couple of times a day in the fresh air will help to relaxes and nourishes your mind and a side benefit – increases blood white count which increases your body’s immunity.   While we’re talking about staying healthy, a nutritious diet is a must.   Put Garbage in and you will get garbage out. Everything you eat, drink or even the medications you take can impact your overall creativity. And of course legal or illegal stimulants may give you a feeling of self-awareness for a short period of time, but continued use can be devastating to true originality in your creative thinking.   Meditation, just about every great thinker or creative person understands the power of meditation, but you don’t have to put yourself in some yoga or Zen position to meditate. Albert Einstein would simply go sit in a comfortable chair in a quiet room and listen to his thoughts while his mind was drifting he came up with the most profound theories and equations. Another well-known inventive thinker would just swim underwater in a long pool with a snorkel on he also managed to pipe in classical music that he could hear underwater. He attributed this form of meditation to all of the great inventions that he gave to the world. Just find a quiet spot and sit and listen.   Walking, it’s not only a low but healthy impact exercise it really revitalizes your well-being especially if you can walk and you can experience nature. You can find nature by just looking at trees and the birds that often hang out there. Listening to nature it’s truly a symphony that will calm you down and help you connect or reconnect to your creativity. When you are having your walk, pick up a leaf or a rock or if your by the beach a seashell. Hold it very closely and explore every little nook and cranny. You can even smell it or taste it, if it’s clean.    Be prepared for creative ideas, they can virtually show up anytime anywhere you can be one of the millions of straphangers jammed into a train car and all of a sudden the brilliant creative idea you been thinking about pops into your head with all the answers you’ve been looking for. Carrying a small notepad or maybe better yet a voice recorder or maybe even better, a voice recorder app on your phone. If it’s safe, immediately talk your idea, or write it down I can assure you you will not remember it the way it was originally served up to you.   Nothing can get inside your head unless you invite it. Watching the news can be the worst thing you can do to maintain an open creative mind. Yes we all want to know what’s going on but if there’s anything real important you’ll hear about it. If you insist on watching the news, pick a time that won’t interfere with you getting a good night sleep and trying to keep it to a minimum. New cycles are constantly being updated and almost all of it is just a rehash of the same message you don’t need that floating around inside your head.   Negative people. We all know a bunch of them try to avoid them, even the ones you know have good intentions in their heart. Negativity creates negativity and the innocent creative mind can become easily overwhelmed and lose the innocence of creative thoughts.   You are responsible for who you are on the inside and on the outside. It doesn’t do you much good if you’re wearing beautiful clothes and you’re manicured perfectly, but inside your thoughts are in shambles. Dress for success inside your mind first, then you can pull on the adornments.    Remember you literally become what you think about all day long. So try and keep an easy-going nonjudgmental personality that will make you feel better and those around you.   Some fun things you can do to keep your mind creatively agile. I have a set of wooden blocks. I take out a half a dozen of them and leave them where I have to pass them frequently during the day. I take those few blocks and make different shapes out of them. I’m amazed at how interesting they become. If they look really good I’ll leave them in all their splendor to admire throughout the day or sometimes for a whole week. The blocks are colorful so I found I can even make these designs not only in the shapes but take advantage of how the colors layout. It’s great fun and you pretty much have to focus creatively.   We read recently that Alex Trebek use crayons when he was doing his jeopardy show. Crayons is something every creative person should own and when you’re feeling stressed out grab a piece of paper and just play it’s extremely relaxing and fun to do.    Being stressed out, challenges creativity and it can become most debilitating. There’s no magic here for when you feel stressed, but try to find a repetitive task that is easy to do that also refocuses your mind. Sometimes just sitting down and reading recipes in a cookbook can do the trick. If nothing else some of those recipes may cause you to want to create them for yourself.   Water, most people do not drink enough water throughout the day and that can make you sluggish, sleepy. and dulls the senses. Not a good place when you want your mind to be thinking creatively.   Being and staying creative in your mind is just a bunch of simple daily steps some work better than others on any given day but if you don’t overwhelm yourself and let the creative muse flow through you you will always end the day with a peaceful heart and the knowledge that tomorrow will bring fresh new thinking and ideas.   Compete only with yourself. If you are always worrying about what other people are doing and if it’s better than what you can do that will kill your creative energy. It doesn’t matter what others are doing, good, bad or indifferent. To your own self be true, think in terms of your own thoughts. Believe me originality of creativity is born within and with the right amount of nourishing it will give you many years of service.   R: There you have it…this is our top 20 ways to stay creative. I: And just for fun…try a few this week and see if it doesn’t make you feel less stressed and more creative. We will have a pdf for you to download and print so you can pick 5 or so to start out with…then next week add a couple of more.   R: Thank all of you for tuning in today…what are we going to feature next week Inci?   I: Our next episode is going to be something that many of us can relate to and that’s Creative Chaos. How stress is affecting our creativity.    Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Thought Row Podcast Episode 2: Living in the Creative Moment Topics that are discussed:  Creativity does not come “on time.” Doing creativity with a full-time job. Lunchtime creativity Writing a book on your phone Making notes and retaining your “Great Ideas.”  When you look back on “brilliant ideas” and they seem not so brilliant. Being judgemental of your creativity. Does social media like Instagram and Facebook affect your creativity? Do you ever go blank when you try to summon your creativity? How to loosen your thoughts and creativity. Trying different techniques. Too much pressure for perfection with your creativity. Creative anxiety.  Helping others…sharing what you’ve learned. Great composers and artist mentors. The buddy system for creativity. No such thing as “bad” when it comes to creativity. Finding time to create. Are the stresses of the world taking precedence over your creativity? Process vs Outcome Reminiscing instead of looking at the current situation.  Competing with yourself.  Strategies for finding time to create. Inci and Rod’s bad habits. Taking baby steps. Warm ups for creatives.   Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email

Episode 1: Entrepreneurial Creativity Rod & Inci discuss dreams and their impact on creativity. Distractions we all face with social media. The vanity of social media. Entrepreneurial life, Entrepreneurial families Interview with Rose Bishay – How she became an entrepreneur. And the process she went through in developing and selling These Hands Lotion Mask. Her … Continue reading Thought Row Podcast Episode 1: Entrepreneurial Creativity →