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64 minutes | Jan 24, 2022
The Renegade Economist on Right Livelihoods
This episode is a guest interview from my friend Karryn Olson, continuing the conversation series on right livelihoods.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/DellaZDuncan.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowSitting down with The Renegade Economist Della Z. Duncan, they discuss what right livelihood can mean and how we can manifest it in the world, in this moment. They also share the structural issues which currently exist, that we can advocate changing in order to create a future that provides more equitable opportunities for everyone to pursue their own vision of a right livelihood. Throughout, Della and Karryn touch on alternative economic models, how many of us use them already in our everyday life, and how to consider implementing the various options, such as the gift economy or time banking, in our lives and communities.Della’s work, including the Upstream Podcast, her retreats, and Livelihood coaching, the last of which is offered on a donation basis, can be found at DellaZDuncan.com.You can find our host for this episode, Karryn Olson, at Regenepreneurs.com. Though I’ll be sharing more conversations from this series with you in the future, until the next of those is out, if you’d like to see what’s coming up from Karryn and her guests, including how you can join a live session, visit:Cultivating Livelihoods In Service to Life: A Conversation Series I’m thankful to Karryn for allowing me to share these conversations and her series with you because her work and life’s passion is on creating a right livelihood and helping others do the same. Whereas I’m interested in sharing the breadth of permaculture and connecting you with the resources you need to live a deep, meaningful life, steeped in permaculture, wherever you find yourself.These connections and our own particular focus, allow me to bring your more than I can on my own. If there is anyone you know who you’d like to have guest host an interview for the podcast, let me know.Until the next time, spend each engaging in the systems and work that delight you, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Related InterviewsKarryn Olson – A Pattern Language for Women in PermacultureCarmen De Jesus – Consent and Our LivelihoodsCharles Eisenstein, Dave Jacke, and Ben Weiss – Right Livelihoods The post The Renegade Economist on Right Livelihoods appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
9 minutes | Jan 11, 2022
State of the Podcast Address
This episode is the annual update looking at the year ahead, including some announcements and insights from behind the scenes.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2022-PodState.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window When it comes to The Permaculture Podcast, I’m trying some different things with the show this year. First, episodes will be the length that they need to be. This arises as there are episodes where the interview closed abruptly and should have had a soft end with a follow-up that picked up again where we left off. Trying to match the long-format The Permaculture Podcast has become known for has resulted in episodes that were longer than they needed to be, diluting the content. While in others a tighter edit would have created a clearer conversation and better served the guest’s message. Second, there are episodes I’ll be releasing that aren’t interviews and don’t fit the longer format. These include responses to your specific requests; conversations with colleagues about particular questions; and the special series documenting Rosemary Morrow’s on permaculture, and impacts on permaculture and the community. And the possibility for a lot more. Third, rather than pushing to get things out on specific days, I’m moving away from a regular release schedule in order to focus on production and projects, releasing and announcing these when they are ready and complete. All of this taken together, I’m expecting to release more content this way, both in the number of episodes and hours of material, than in the past several years, while at a higher standard and level of production. This will not impact the weekly updates and other regular posts for Patrons. Those at the Sprout and higher tiers will receive their ad-free episodes three-days before the public release. These changes also do not impact the live stream schedule. Some of the projects include several online classes this year. They are:Ecological Literacy and Design.The Permaculture Practicum.The One Yard Schoolhouse. Ecological Literacy and Design is a six-week online course to teach you everything you need to know to practice permaculture in your day-to-day life, without taking a permaculture design course. The first Ecological Literacy and Design session starts in June. You can find out more about this class at thepermaculturepodcast.com/ecologicalliteracy The Permaculture Practicum is an eight-week online class for permaculture professionals or those who want to become permaculture professionals. Together, we’ll take a deep dive into a specific, broad area of permaculture such as garden and homestead design, cities and small spaces; or invisible structures. Those are by no means the only possible subject, let me know if I can offer a practicum in an area where you would like to specialize. The Permaculture Practicum begins in September and you can find out more at thepermaculturepodcast.com/practicum Taken together, these two classes represent a complete, 72-hour permaculture design course. Students who take both classes are eligible to receive a Permaculture Design Certificate after review of their final portfolio. I’m also excited to share The One Yard Schoolhouse. This is an enrichment program for homeschooling parents where they’ll learn activities to partake in and share with their children, while receiving homeschooling educational support from me. This allows parents to spend more time with their children, rather than creating course content or curriculum, while their children receive a rich, place-based, permaculture-focused education. The next session of The One Yard Schoolhouse begins on April 1st and is open for enrollment. You can find more detailed information at thepermaculturepodcast.com/schoolhouse I am also organizing an in-person Ecological Literacy and Design retreat from September 7th to the 11th of this year at Earthaven Ecovillage near Asheville, North Carolina. We’re offering an early-registration special until February first where you can save $150 and only need to pay a deposit to sign up. See the complete details and register today at learnfromtravel.com/permaculture The other project is shifting more of my permaculture work towards video. For the last six months or so I’ve been experimenting with that via the listener live streams. Behind the scenes, I’ve been shooting videos around the house and in my community to practice with the equipment since this is a different direction for me personally, though not necessarily permaculture content. I find that specific, listener-driven projects help me to decide what to create, so if there are any videos you’d like me to make to further your permaculture journey, let me know. I’m also planning to get on the road once my family and I feel it’s safe to travel again for the in-person interviews and on-site video tours that were initially in the works for the growing season of 2020 before the pandemic wrecked all of those. I have the first such trip tentatively planned for late Spring of this year, of course with the caveat that may be rescheduled as the world is still in flux. I’ve also made a number of connections with regional regenerative agriculture folks through Future Harvest, and they’ve agreed to site tours later in the year. If there is any person or site you’d like me to visit, anywhere in the world, let me know. I’m happy to add them to my list and see what I can do about getting there. In addition to all of that, I recently updated this website. Here you’ll find a calendar page where you can see at a glance the list of episodes I’m working on over the next several weeks; the dates, times, and subjects for live streams; and any workshops, classes, or events I’m teaching, attending, or otherwise participating with. There is also a new Support the Podcast page where you can see all the ways to assist the podcast in the year ahead. If at any time there is a way I can help you with your permaculture journey by including something on the show, in a live stream, or by offering a specific class or workshop, are always welcome to share your suggestions with me. Until the next time, spend each day engaged in what you love, while taking care of Earth, yourself, and each other. The post State of the Podcast Address appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
47 minutes | Jan 3, 2022
Renard Turner – Land-Based Culture and New Age Agrarianism
My guest today is Renard Turner, an independent, African-American, sustainable farmer. Along with his wife, he raises gourmet goats and squab at Vanguard Ranch Natural Gourmet in Virginia. He is also the opening keynote speaker at the upcoming conference, Together We Can, from Future Harvest. I wanted to learn more about Renard and how those experiences inform his upcoming keynote speech, New Age Agrarianism: Growing for a Regenerative, Sustainable, and Equitable Planet.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/RenardTurner.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window The result which follows is a frank conversation about agriculture and the impacts of systemic practices and policies on African-Americans, Indigenous, and People of Color. This includes the issue of land access and the need for each of these communities to have equitable quantities of land if current and future generations will ever have a chance to learn vocational agriculture, at a meaningful scale, from members of their own community. We also touch on how, as these are systemic issues, we aren’t individually at fault for the policies and practices that got us here, but that as we become aware of them we can take action in solidarity towards the liberation of all. Find out more about Renard and his farm at:Vanguard Ranch Natural Gourmet Renard is also the keynote speaker at the upcoming Together We Can Conference, presented by Future Harvest. I’ll be attending this virtual event on Thursday and Friday, January 13th and 14th, 2022. As this is completely online, it is a great way to start the New Year and I look forward to you joining me, Renard, and all the amazing speakers and presenters. Find out more and register to attend today at FutureHarvest.org.Sign-up for the Ecological Literacy RetreatJoin the Podcast Patron Community Stepping away from this interview, I want to reiterate what I said in the opening and that Renard and I touched on throughout our conversation. Systemic forces like those we discussed and how they impact all levels of society can be a lot to take in. Often, we are also, in the deepest meaning of the word, ignorant to these realities for a variety of reasons. Once we give ourselves that grace and become aware of these issues, we can then take meaningful action, to the best of our abilities. If after listening to this interview you would like to learn more, I recommend reading some of the books that changed my perspective. Those include: The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein.White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America by Nancy Isenburg. The following past episodes of the show also, in their own way, expand on various pieces of the conversation with Renard. Jeff Speck – Creating Walkable CitiesBrad Ward – Permaculture and Reforming International Development Permaculture, Land, and Land Access1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access2 – Jesse Frost3 – Sarah Mock4 – Amyrose Foll5 – Reana Kovalcik6 – Improving Land Access7 – Final Thoughts When you are ready to take action, look for your local mutual aid or sustainable agriculture organizations. Through them, you’ll meet folks looking to liberate rather than simply lift up. So, reach out to them for more information and to get involved. I’d also like to hear your thoughts after listening to Renard and his perspective. Leave a comment in the show notes, or get in touch in the usual ways: Call or text: 717-827-6266Email: email@example.comUntil the next time, spend each day making the world a more just, beautiful, and egalitarian world while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other. ResourcesSystematic Land Theft by Jillian Hishaw, Esq. (Book)Jane Elliot – Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes Exercise and Fighting Racism (Video) The post Renard Turner – Land-Based Culture and New Age Agrarianism appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
11 minutes | Dec 5, 2021
Final Thoughts – Permaculture, Land and Land Access. Episode 7
Here we are at Episode Seven, the finale, of the focused exploration of Permaculture, Land, and Land Access, with my final thoughts as a series of ramblings, reflections, and ruminations stemming from the earlier episodes. If you haven’t listened to all of those, or you just found the show and this is your first time tuning in, I recommend going back and checking the preceding six episodes before continuing. You’ll find numbered and ordered links to those in the show notes, along with past episodes of the show related to this series, and a long list of resources. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/6-PLLA-Final-Thoughts.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window JesseFor me, the conversation with Jesse Frost spoke to the realities of what it means to be a farmer on a small site. That you can make this work on a little piece of land, but that it takes training ahead of time and figuring out your particular approach. Knowing where you want to be and how that can impact what you’re going to sell in order to maximize the profits of your labor while tending and building the soil. If you want to follow a similar path to Jesse, you may need to relocate to have access to a piece of land or the right markets. I also appreciate his candor that even though he had years of experience, it still took time to get things right, and he continues to learn and adapt.I also enjoyed the idea of having aspirational goals, such as his example of reducing plastic, or my own of producing an interview of the same caliber and quality as Terri Gross of Fresh Air. We may not be able to attain that at the moment, or ever, but we can still continue to work in that direction.Then there were Jesse’s thoughts on land access. That leasing may be the right option, as well as finding partners and working together. There was a time I was looking at leasing land from a friend’s family to grow on, or there is my friend Erin Harvey of The Kale Yard, who started on a half-acre leased from some people she knew. There was also a time when Wilson Alvarez, now of The Reintegration Project, ran a garden installation and maintenance company where he traded part of his labor for a share of the garden harvest to sell or use at his home.SarahFrom Sarah Mock, the realities she shared into the wealth, resources, and capital available for farmers, farms, and farming was like having the veil ripped-off of my understanding of farming. That the people we call farmers are often not, in reality, the actual farmers, rather it is often the people they hire to work the land for them. Understanding that distinction matters when we get involved with policy or legislation in order to remove the special treatment, as it exists today, for farms. Similarly, her deconstruction of the family farm also shows how farming is a business, with its own risks and rewards.That growing food for people is the least valuable use of land, and there are systemic forces at play that restrict our ability to get on the land. There’s an interview I recorded with Dr. Laura Jackson that is linked below which expands on agriculture as a system and the difficulty of pivoting production, further detailing much of what Sarah shared with us.In Sarah’s thoughts on land access, she reiterated the need to partner with others and look for diverse voices, mentors, and skillsets to work with. This is one of the most important steps I would recommend to anyone who wants to be an entrepreneur, build their permaculture dreams, or live into their agricultural aspirations.Though I’m not a farmer, from my own experience as the producer of this show, there are a ton of skills I don’t have. The show wouldn’t be where it is today without friends, colleagues, volunteers, or freelancers I’ve hired. Even now, as I shift from production to more education, I wouldn’t be considering this move were it not with the current folks who answered my call for help. To them, I’m ever indebted and recommend that you build your team before starting your business.AmyroseI enjoyed Amyrose Foll’s honestly on getting involved with or creating organizations that liberate individuals and communities rather than stifle them. That there are a lot of us involved in this work, so let’s get together and increase our reach, speak more broadly, and show up as we’re able.Speaking to food as freedom and that we’re all in this together, we can free ourselves and others by growing food, in whatever ways we are able. And that Amyrose reminded us that we can grow so much food if we abandoned lawns. Grabbing some quick numbers from The Washington Post, as of 2015 there were 40 million acres of lawns in the United States, alone. Even if we kept a quarter of that for recreation and were to grow imperfectly on the rest, lawns alone could feed more than 100 million people in the United States. Intensively and closer to perfect, the United States could feed everyone within the nation from just that 2% of the country covered in lawns.But even if we cannot grow a quantity of food, we can still reduce food insecurity by volunteering with programs that serve people, like Food Not Bombs, donating money to our local food bank, or placing non-perishable goods in a local little food pantry. If we want to take it further, we could set up a community fridge in our yard, or start a community fridge project in our community as Taylor Scott did.I’ve mentioned this idea of community fridges to a few of my friends in the community, and it seems to have struck the right chord, as they all said it sounded like a fantastic idea for permaculture practitioners to get involved in. So, coming up in a few weeks, I’ll be interviewing Taylor to discuss Community Fridges, her project, and what we can do to get involved or start our own. If you have any questions you’d like me to ask Taylor during that conversation, leave a comment.ReanaI grew up in a family that was larger-than-most, where my maternal grandmother and many of her children, lived through and remembered the crushing poverty of growing up in Appalachia. They had so little for so long, that they weren’t the kind to donate money, but who believed in a generous spirit and to help others with your time, skills, and labor. That, paired with growing up in one of the historic peace churches, left an impression on me to aid whoever I can, whenever I’m able, through direct action and activism.Hearing Reana dive into our conversation and talk about that along with mutual aid was another refreshing reminder that we have a number of adjacent allies in the world. As she shared from all the mutual aid organizations she’s partnered with, we can likely find opportunities in our own area. As a permaculture practitioner, go ahead and hop onto your favorite search engine and type mutual aid and where you live into the search bar. Find those folks in your area you can collaborate with.If you are a person of faith, does your house of worship have any food outreach programs you can get involved with?Similarly, as Reana shared if we can’t find something, what about starting our own? Can we partner with our local farmer’s market, or an event, or even our corner bar or pub, to setup a table and raise awareness of food access and food insecurity? By being out there and engaged, we encourage and inspire others to get involved.To extend our reach, whether or not the DSA is your party of choice, political action is required if we’re going to move forward on any of this, and it takes more than showing up and voting to make it happen. If you are in the United States, lobby against anything egregious you see in the Farm Bill. Run for office. Protest. Write letters to your elected officials. Support candidates who align with your goals, or the opponents of candidates who don’t.Together, we are legion, and our voices will be heard. Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046If you’d like to connect with any of these guests and continue the conversation:You can find Jesse at RoughDraftFarmstead.com. His work on caring for soil, with business partners Jackson and Josh is at NoTillGrowers.com, and his book, The Living Soil Handbook is at Chelsea Green Publishing, chelseagreen.com. Sarah is at sarakhmock.com or on Twitter @sarah_k_mock. Her book, Farm (and Other F Words) is at Bookshop.org.Amyrose is at VirginiaFreeFarm.org. Virginia Free Farm is also @virginiafreefarm on Instagram or VAFreeFarm on Twitter. Reana, Slow Food DC and Share a Seed are at SlowfoodDC.org.And so, as we draw this series to a close, my final thoughts.The first is to work your net. Whatever you do, wherever you are, consider who you already know and what they do. From there, look at what you want to do next and see if anyone on your list could help you or we be open to collaborating. Reach out, let them know what you’re doing, that you were thinking about them and what they’re up to, and if there is any way you might work together.The second is to persist. For as long as your work and efforts serve you and your community, keep showing up. You’ll make a world of difference if you do.Now that this series is complete, I’d like to know your thoughts about this approach to addressing a single subject through a variety of perspectives and voices. You can leave a comment in the show notes, or contact me directly.Email: firstname.lastname@example.orgCall or text: 717-827-6266.Next up is a guest interview from my friend Karryn Olson, as part of her work exploring right livelihoods, in a conversation with the Renegade Economist, Della Z. Duncan.Until then, spend each day applying your permaculture knowledge to your unique and wonderful life, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Listen to the other episodes in the series1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access2 – Jesse Frost3 – Sarah Mock4 – Amyrose Foll5 – Reana Kovalcik6 – Improving Land AccessRelated InterviewsErin Harvey – Starting a Small Scale FarmDr. Laura Jackson – Modern Agriculture SystemsZev Friedman – Co-Operate WNC, Mutual Aid, and the Scale of CollaborationAdditional ResourcesPeople, Organizations, and ProgramsComfort Farms (Facebook)Common Good City FarmCommunity Roots GardenCultivate the CityDemocratic Socialists of AmericaFarmer Veteran Coalition / Homegrown by HeroesFields 4 ValorFood Not BombsFRESHFARMFuture Harvest – Chesapeake Alliance for Sustainable AgricultureKyanite Pantry (LinkTree)Miriam’s KitchenMLK Urban Agriculture CenterMount Pleasant Library FriendsOAK – Organic Association of KentuckyPASA Sustainable AgriculturePeter Scott, found of Fields 4 Valor Farms (LinkedIn)Plantita Power (Facebook)Stag Vets, Inc.Richmond Food JusticeRichmond Indigenous Society (Facebook) (Instagram) (Twitter)Veterans Healing FarmVirginia Fresh MatchWangari GardensDirect Action and Mutual AidDirect Action (Wiki)Mutual Aid (Organization Theory) (Wiki)So You Want to Get Involved in Mutual Aid? (Article)How to create a mutual aid network (Article)Mutual Aid Disaster ReliefMutual Aid Hub Nonviolent ActionGandhism (Wiki)Anarcho-pacifism (Wiki) Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 The post Final Thoughts – Permaculture, Land and Land Access. Episode 7 appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
27 minutes | Nov 27, 2021
Improving Land Access – Permaculture, Land and Land Access. Episode 6
In this episode, we hear from each of the guests in the Permaculture, Land and Land Access series, as they address the question: What can we do to improve land access, particularly for those who want to grow food for people? We’ll hear from each of them in the order they appeared in the series so far, beginning with Jesse Frost, followed by Sarah Mock and Amyrose Foll, and ending with Reana Kovalcik. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/5-PLLA-Land-Access.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowWhat do you think of their answers to the question about improving land access? Whose response do you resonate most with? How would you answer this question? Let me know. Leave a comment in the show notes. Send an email to: email@example.com Or get in touch by sending a text or calling: 717-827-6266. Up next is the last episode in the Permaculture, Land and Land Access series, with my final thoughts. Until then, spend each day working to improve land access for those who want to grow food, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046Listen to the other episodes in the series1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access2 – Jesse Frost3 – Sarah Mock4 – Amyrose Foll5 – Reana Kovalcik The post Improving Land Access – Permaculture, Land and Land Access. Episode 6 appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
22 minutes | Nov 22, 2021
Reana Kovalcik – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 5.
In this episode, Reana Kovalcik and I discuss direct action and mutual aid to get seeds into the hands of people who want to grow food. Using that same overlay, to find and connect with local allies and organizations to spread the message and amplify our impact. Throughout, she uses her work with Slow Food and the program she started, Share a Seed, as effective, on-the-ground models to inspire and encourage you in your next steps for local change. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/4-PLLA-Reana-Kovalcik.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window Reana, Share a Seed and Slow Food D.C. are at SlowFoodDC.org. This conversation with Reana ends the individual interviews in the series. In the next episode you’ll hear from each of the guests again as they share their thoughts and insights on what we can do to improve land access for those who want to grow food. Until then, spend each day working to get seeds and food where they’re needed while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other. Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046Listen to the other episodes in the series1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access2 – Jesse Frost3 – Sarah Mock4 – Amyrose Foll The post Reana Kovalcik – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 5. appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
29 minutes | Nov 18, 2021
Amyrose Foll – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 4.
Continuing the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access, in this interview I’m joined by Amyrose Foll, of Virginia Free Farm. Amyrose shares how she and the team at VFF use the farm as an incubator of ideas that empower individuals and organizations to get food and gardens into communities. She also discusses: How growing food is a liberating experience for everyone. Ways to find land to grow on. And, some organizations working with gardening and growing as therapy.Throughout you’ll hear her thoughts on what we can do to make a difference, right now, where we are.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/3-PLLA-Amyrose-Foll.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowYou can find Amyrose and Virginia Free Farm are at: VirginiaFreeFarm.org Next in this series is Reana Kovalcik of Share a Seed and Slow Food D.C., as we look at seed swapping and mutual aid as acts of community outreach and empowerment. Until then, spend each day expanding your impact as a seed saver, grower, or activist, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Join the Podcast Patron Community on Patreon. Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046Listen to the other episodes in the series1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access2 – Jesse Frost3 – Sarah Mock The post Amyrose Foll – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 4. appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
32 minutes | Nov 12, 2021
Jesse Frost – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 2.
This conversation continues the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access as Jesse Frost joins me to share his experiences as a small-scale farmer. This includes: Where he sells. What he grows. Insights into market gardening, or French intensive, methods. How he’s working towards reducing plastic around the farm. Whether or not you need to mechanize with a walk-behind tractor. And the use of living paths. We close by touching on his thoughts on farming on the small side in cities and how to reframe our mindset and the crops we choose to the resources and space available.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/1-PLLA-Jesse-Frost.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window We’ll hear more from Jesse in Episode 6 of Permaculture, Land, and Land Access, where he shares his thoughts on making land more accessible. You can find Jesse and Hannah’s farm at RoughDraftFarmstead.com. His book, The Living Soil Handbook, is from Chelsea Green Publishing, at ChelseaGreen.com. His work on No-Till Growing, with working partners Jackson and Josh, is at NoTillGrowers.com. Up next in this series is Sarah K. Mock. She shares the realities of large-scale, commodity agriculture, and the impacts of policy on farming and the value of land. We’ll hear from Jesse again in Permaculture, Land, and Land Access Episode Six, where he shares his thoughts on making land more accessible. Until then, spend each day increasing soil fertility and scaling to the space you’re in while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Get you copies of Rosemary Morrow’s Books at:The Permaculture Principles US WebstoreThe Permaculture Principles AUS WebstoreDonate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 The post Jesse Frost – Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 2. appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
12 minutes | Nov 8, 2021
Permaculture, Land, and Land Access
This episode starts the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. I wanted to explore this topic because I’m currently landless and the opportunity to buy land or purchase a house with enough space for a garden, shrinks each year as the price goes up and the size of plots goes down. Living in an apartment in a city, there are plenty of parks and green spaces, but accessing a community garden or place to grow can require a car, years on a waitlist, or both. When an affordable place comes, it may require relocating away from friends and family, or be hours from the viable markets needed to sell on-farm products, requiring regular long-distance commutes to town and the associated added expenses of transportation, fuel, maintenance, and time.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/PLLA.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowFrom my conversations with listeners over the years, I know many of you are in a similar situation, so here is a series on what we can do, without land, to practice permaculture where we are, in our homes and among smaller green spaces, while supporting growers in cities and periurban places.If you do own land where you farm or practice permaculture, there’s a lot for you to learn as well.Listen to understand how to care for the ground beneath your feet in the interview with Jesse Frost. Sarah K. Mock dives into the systemic problems at play that limit profitability in agriculture. Learn about how farmers give back to their communities and support food access with Amyrose Foll, while in the final interview, Reana Kovalcik shares how to get food, plants, and seeds where they’re needed through community partnerships and mutual aid.In addition to those four interviews and this introduction, in episode six of this seven-part series, you’ll hear each of those guests address the question of how to improve land access for people who want to grow food where people live. Episode eight, similar to this beginning, serves as the bookend, with my final thoughts on this series and what we learned, as well as a large section of resources and organizations to explore and connect with if you’d like to take your journey of land, agriculture, and access, further. This series runs through the month of November.Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 As you’ll be hearing from Jesse, Sarah, Amyrose, and Reana, in the weeks ahead, here is a bit of their biography and background, and my interest in having them join me.Jesse Frost’s interest in farming began in the late 2000s because of wine. He was working in a wine shop in NYC that specializes in small-scale, artisanal, certified-organic, biodynamic wineries. After visiting some of those farms around the world he returned to his home state of Kentucky to start his life as a farmer with a two-year on-farm internship. He and his wife, Hannah Crabtree, now live in central Kentucky and farm using no-till practices on certified organic soil with a focus on intensive methods.I discovered Jesse because of his recently released book The Living Soil Handbook from Chelsea Green Publishing. Learning more about him and his practices, I discovered that, though he’s worked on farms of a variety of sizes, his current farm, Rough Draft Farmstead, is under five acres in production, something more attainable for those of us in and around cities, and for us to hear about the experiences of someone who farms on the smaller-scale in a suburban location, rather than a rural setting, and who makes their on-farm living by selling to farmer’s markets. What Jesse spoke to during our interview, particularly his answer to the question on land access, opened up my thoughts on Landcare and growing food into the broader perspective which this series became.Sarah K. Mock is an agricultural journalist and the author of Farm (and Other F Words). Sarah grew up on a small family farm in Wyoming while participating in 4H and FHA, and began her personal foray into agriculture at the age of 13 when she wanted her own dairy goat operation. Her father said he would loan her the money if she wrote a business plan.In speaking with dairy goat farmers and reading all the books in the library on farming, homesteading, and goats, available, when Sarah started putting the numbers down on the page for her plan, something didn’t add up. Knowing she was only responsible for the goats and their overhead, not rent or facilities, she couldn’t find a way to make her operation profitable. This experience drew Sarah deeper into her appreciation for the agricultural lifestyle while also recognizing there was an economic mystery at play that didn’t make sense.Leaving college, Sarah spent several years searching for the solution to this conundrum of farm profitability before turning to journalism as the way to work and be paid to find answers to big these problems. Starting out with a national news organization covering Congress, the White House, and USDA as an agriculture and rural issues reporter, she went freelance in 2019.I began following Sarah on Twitter after seeing people quote-tweet her comments on a series of articles from Chris Newman of Sylvanaqua Farms on race and land access in America. Those posts and her tweets since show a perspective that cares for agriculture and farmers, but not for the myths or everyday narratives we see on the news or hear repeated by politicians and pundits. Her interview gives us the factual realities about farmers farming on a large scale, how that is supported by government policy while eschewing small-scale, regenerative, or permaculture practices, and what we can do to start changing the system.Amyrose Foll grew up in the woods of Western Pennsylvania foraging and hunting with her father while surrounded by a mother and grandmother who gardened intensively and traded with other community gardeners for what they didn’t have, which inspired her love of plants and growing things. Her farm came about as a legacy of love to cultivate, preserve, and distribute rare and indigenous seed varieties to tribal entities and reservations, and to garden programs, in Virginia and across the United States, so these cultivars would not be lost to climate change. Those beginnings grew into a permutation that now encompasses urban agriculture, food justice, mutual aid, and community fridges. Her farm, Virginia Free Farm, is a nonprofit with the mission to deliver free nutritious, responsibly produced healthy food to their neighbors in need. She started out distributing food because they had too much and needed to do something with the surplus. They now feed around 500 people directly from the farm, which has inspired a movement in central Virginia that gives food to Food Not Bombs and unhoused communities in the area, while supporting a dozen community gardens, food sovereignty gardens at several Virginia indigenous tribes, as well as working on legislation at the state level for equal access to food for BIPOC communities, urban areas, and food deserts.This isn’t just giving food away, but also sharing the knowledge, supplies, and resources so that communities and individual families build resilience. When I learned about all of this direct action in practice, in a way that cares for Earth, cares for people, and creates a surplus to return to the community, I had to interview Amyrose, who I discovered as this series was coming together, and she was a perfect fit.Reana Kovalcik has been in the food and farm world for a decade working in communications and policy. While working for a school food organization in New York City, in 2010 she was pulled into Slow Food NYC on the work there on the Child Nutrition Reauthorization, a legislative package that funds nutrition programs, and later joined the Slow Food NYC policy committee. She relocated to Washington D.C. five or so years ago to work for the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition on Federal Farm Policy, while continuing her work with Slow Food at the national level and on the local level with Slow Food D.C., where she is the Vice-Chair and Governor. Reana also started the Share a Seed program at the beginning of the pandemic, something we talk more about in her interview.It was through Share a Seed that I found Reana and reached out to her to talk about that program as another practical approach to get involved in our local community, without needing land or to grow food. Our conversation, which does talk about that as well as the role of the Slow Food movement in food and food access, also continues the thread of mutual aid and how we, each of us, can work directly to increase food security and create food justice.I’ll include links to each of the guests, their projects, and related resources in the show notes for their individual episodes, and recap all of that in episode seven. Until the next time, spend each day considering how you came to the land where you currently reside, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other. The post Permaculture, Land, and Land Access appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
13 minutes | Nov 5, 2021
Lobelia Commons – Earthbound Farmer’s Almanac
If you’ve been listening to this podcast since near the beginning, you may remember shorter episodes that introduced an idea or topic. This episode, and others you’ll hear like it, irregularly in the future, is a call back to the days of those perma-bytes. With so many amazing people and organizations doing good work in the world, I want to be able to share more of them with you.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/EBFA.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowSo, today, I’m joined by Hadley of Lobelia Commons, a mutual aid organization in Louisiana, to hear about how they connect people with food through dozens and dozens of small, local, initiatives. Hadley is also here to tell us about the Earthbound Farmers Almanac, a farmer’s almanac for the Anthropocene, with an invitation for you to get involved by submitting an article, recipe, story, or poem to the 2022 edition.Listen to this conversation with Hadley to learn more about the organization and what they’re looking for submissions, and I’ll join you again after. I’d like to give a thank you to Hadley for agreeing to join me so we could get this out to you quickly so you could join in and submit your pieces. As was mentioned you can submit your piece for the Earthbound Farmers Almanac via email to:firstname.lastname@example.orgFind Lobelia CommonsOn TwitterOn InstagramListen to Partisan Gardens: Earthbound Farmer’s AlmanacRead Earthbound Farmer’s Almanac (PDF)Purchase Earthbound Farmer’s Almanac I’m looking to produce more of these shorter episodes throughout the year, as they make sense. If you know of a person or organization which you think would be a good fit for a quick discussion like this, please let me know.Until the next time, write that article, put that poem down on the page, tell your story, and share it with others, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 The post Lobelia Commons – Earthbound Farmer’s Almanac appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
45 minutes | Oct 25, 2021
Vicki Hird – Rebugging the Planet
We know that pesticides have an outsized impact on insects in the environment, particularly when broad-spectrum chemicals are used, killing nearly all the invertebrates they touch. If you’ve read a warning label on these, or many of the other garden, yard, or farm sprays available, you’ll find cautions about keeping the contents of the container out of waterways or away from amphibians.But what about the other harms of human impacts? Like the destruction of habitat. The ever-increasing noise of industry. The lights that fill the sky with brightness throughout the night.And once we’re aware of this mess, what can we do to start repairing the damage?https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/VickHird.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowTo look at these problems and find solutions, I’m joined by Vicki Hird, author of Rebugging the Planet. In addition to sharing a wide overview of the harms to insects in the modern age, we also dive into ways we can make a difference in our homes, across the green spaces near us, in our communities, and how to tackle the systemic problems, in order to care for the microfauna of the soil, water, and air.Vicki Hird, who you can find at rebuggingtheplanet.org. While you’re there, I also recommend clicking on the menu for Photos of Urban Bugs, to see dozens of pictures of insects from her garden. Her book, Rebugging the Planet, is available from Chelsea Green Publishing. I’ll include links to all of those, and more, in the show notes. Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalVenmo: @permaculturepodcast Or drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 As with every interview, there’s so much to take away or comment on from this conversation, whether that’s the impact of fashion and clothing on the environment or the policies which subsidize commodity crops, making junk food overly cheap, while keeping fresh organic food out of the hands of many. As my children reconnected me with insects and inspired a newfound love of bugs, and my own work on changing ourselves to change the world, I’d like to speak to that as my closing thoughts.When we look at all the animals and insects in the world, many can be considered charismatic, especially the megafauna like pandas or polar bears. We’re drawn to them when we see them, including some of the smaller ones like a brightly colored and contrasted Monarch butterfly or the bumbling flight of a bee. But we also need to fall in love with the creepy-crawlies which don’t always inspire love at first sight.Watching my children fearlessly interact with creatures that made me uncomfortable to touch or, in the case of spiders, even to be near, made me wonder why I had those aversions. Though I never discovered the source of my discomfort, stopping to ask where those fears came from was the first step in my reformation.The next was to get out in the grass and garden to look for all the insects I could find making their way across the ground or crouched on plants. With my camera in hand, I took close-up pictures of everything I could, especially spiders. Then, sitting at my desk, pulling those images up on a large screen so that each creature stood perched before me larger than life, seeing if I could identify them. In doing this, giving a name to what I once avoided and beginning a relationship with each one.I encourage you to do something similar to connect with the life inhabiting your unique little piece of the world. Whether with a camera, sketchbook, or field guide, spend some time with all the beautiful bugs you can find.Those, however, are just my thoughts. I invite you to share your observations or questions with me, whether you want to talk about this episode or any of the others in the archives. Leave a comment below.From here, there is no new episode next week as I’m off to celebrate my birthday on October 31st. If you’d like to get in touch, I will still be available by direct message here on Patreon, or by phone, text, or email. The show will return with a new episode on November 8th.Until we meet again, make decisions each day that help to rebug the planet, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.ResourcesVicki Hird – Rebugging the Planet WebsitePhotos of Urban BugsRebugging the Planet at Chelsea Green Publishing Flight Behavior by Barbara KingsolverSilent Summer by Dave Goulson Xerces SocietyNational Audobon SocietyWorld Wildlife FundConservation InternationalRelated Interview on InsectsBeesRelated Interviews on Citizen ScienceMycology and Citizen ScienceThe Citizen Scientist The post Vicki Hird – Rebugging the Planet appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
52 minutes | Oct 18, 2021
Shantree Kacera – The Living Centre
We can expect change to occur continuously throughout our lives. We’re likely to call several places home. Friends will come and go. We’ll move between jobs multiple times and likely even switch career paths.As permaculture practitioners, in the landscape, we play with change. Slowing succession in some places of our design, advancing it in others, to arrest or encourage this process on a timeline that matches what we want within any given zone. But how do we change as people and plan the succession of an organization, and the land it inhabits, through time? https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/Shantree.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowTo examine this question, I’m joined by Shantree Kacera, founder of The Living Centre, an eco-spiritual learning space and demonstration situated on fifty acres near London, Ontario, Canada. In our conversation, Shantree shares his personal transformation and continual recreation over four decades as a farmer, herbalist, and teacher, as well as how the site changed from a small herb farm to a site that has drawn thousands of visitors from dozens of countries. We also touch on how he and his wife and partner Lorraine are planning for the next generation of participants on the land, and for the future succession of The Living Centre. Find Shantree and The Living Centre at: TheLivingCentre.com There is a quote from Bill Mollison, which I’ve shared at least once before on the show, in my interview with Geoff Christou, author of Utopia: A Permaculture Vision, which states:When we design, we are always building for future floods, future fires, future droughts, and planting a tree a few inches tall that will be future forest giants, throw future shadows. Future populations will need future soils and forest resources, shelter, security. So somebody needs to range ahead in time, scout out the next century. We are not daydreaming. We are time scouts.I see this vision and planning to respond to change as vital if we are ever going to “design out the designer” and ensure that the designs we lay down in our lifetime can continue without our management or influence.Part of that comes through the classes I teach so we can get deep with ourselves, our stories, and our practices. My goal with students is to develop a grounded, rich understanding of what matters to us and create a cohesive vision and narrative that flows and grows with us throughout our lifetime. Another piece is to have conversations like this one on the podcast in the months ahead. Through the stories of Shantree and other guests, we can learn different ways to adapt to the changes we’ll face throughout life, and how to plan so our work carries on for generations after our hands have left the soil and our words are lost to the winds of time.If you would like to continue the conversation and expand on these ideas of planning for the succession of projects and organizations, I ask you to get involved. Check out what Shantree and Lorraine are doing via their website and, if you’re near London, Ontario, Canada, go take a workshop or propose your own project to become an ecosystem participant.Send me your questions so I can include them in a future episode. If there’s something you’d like answered on-air, there are at least ten other people listening, right now, who would like to hear the answer.And, if you know someone involved in succession planning at any level from the personal to the systemic, send me their information so I can see if they’d be a good fit for this ongoing, occasional exploration of long-time horizons.Whether you have questions or would like to suggest a guest, the best way to reach me is by email: email@example.comI look forward to hearing from you.From here, the next episode is an interview with Vicki Hird to discuss what we can do to reverse the bug-pocalypse and rebug the planet. Until then, spend each day planning for success, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Resources The Living CentreThe Living Centre on FacebookThe Living Centre on Instagram Learn More about The Living Centre Crowdfunding Campaign: https://chuffed.org/project/thelivingcentreDonate to The Permaculture Podcast Fall CampaignOnline: via PayPalOr with Venmo: @permaculturepodcastOr drop something in the mail:The Permaculture Podcastc/o Scott Mann210 E. Fairfax St. #300Falls Church, VA 22046 The post Shantree Kacera – The Living Centre appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
43 minutes | Oct 11, 2021
Gigi Berardi – FoodWISE
Food. Something we think about regularly. Whether that’s what we’re having for our next meal; trying to remember the contents of our cabinets or refrigerator; or what we need to buy on our next trip to the grocery store. As permaculture practitioners, these thoughts are also likely to include what we’ll be harvesting from our garden; searching for a local source from a producer we can meet face to face; or reading labels to find the indicators of where something comes from and how it was produced.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/GigiBerardi.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window Each of us are likely to have our own way to ask and answer questions related to whether or not the food systems we participate in and the food we take into our bodies are the right ones for us, our particular circumstances, and the planet. What if there was a uniform method, however, to ask and answer these questions? Something we could use in our own lives, which is also easy to share with others. A way to examine, consider, and discuss our food choices, whether the scale is personal or planetary, and covers the range from policy to production to purchase. This kind of model forms the conversation for this episode, as I sit down with Gigi Berardi to discuss FoodWISE, the system she’s developed and writes about in her recently released book of the same name. In a conversation where I share my own complex relationship with food, Gigi talks about the passion for food that led her to write the book, her sources of inspiration, additional resources you might find helpful, and how to keep ourselves informed and up-to-date on the latest food and agriculture science and research. If you eat food, you’ll want to listen to this interview. Click here to find out more about Gigi, her book, and additional resources I wanted to interview Gigi and have this conversation because the foodWISE model reminds me of the ethics and principles of permaculture. The initial concept is quick to pick up and easy to teach. It provides a consistent way to talk with others about our interests, concerns, and how to resolve them. As a model and not a prescription, it is adaptable to a wide variety of situations. And, it allows room for us to make choices that best suit the resources we individually have available whether we need to find food at a farmer’s market, convenience store, or in our own backyard. I’ll definitely be sharing this with others in my personal life, so we can look and talk about our food choices more deeply. What do you think about FoodWISE? Will you be picking up a copy of Gigi’s book? Are there other models, oriented around food or otherwise, which you use to navigate the many complex decisions we face every day? From here, the next interview is a conversation with Shantree Kacera of The Living Centre, an eco-spiritual site located near London, Ontario, Canada. He joins me to share the ways he’s reinvented himself and The Living Centre over four decades engaged in ecological education and outreach, and how he’s planning for the succession of the location and organization. Until then, spend each day making WISE food choices that take care of Earth, your self, and each other. The post Gigi Berardi – FoodWISE appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
41 minutes | Sep 27, 2021
Wake Up, Grow Up, Clean Up, Show Up
Today’s interview is a casual and relaxed conversation, as I sit down with my co-host, David Bilbrey, and turn the mic towards him to discuss what brought him to permaculture and the ideas that influence how he sees the world. We touch on the work of Ken Wilber and Integral Theory, what community can mean in an internet-connected age, how podcasts make the world smaller as we hear from people we might not encounter otherwise, and the importance of sitting down to listen to a conversation between two people.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/DavidBilbrey.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowDavid’s website, which includes the interviews he recorded for The Permaculture Podcast, is ecothinkit.com. We’re looking to have David turn the mic towards me sometime in the future. If you have any questions you’d like David to include in that conversation or ones you’d like me to ask him, leave a comment.Until the next time, show up every day while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Join the Podcast Patreon CommunitySchedule a MeanderingMore Information on Integral TheoryKen Wilber – Integral Theory (Wiki)Spiral Dynamics (Wiki)Integral Recovery (Website)Integral Recovery by John Dupuy (Book – GoodReads)Developmental Politics by Steve McIntosh (Book – GoodReads)Post Progressive (Website)Integral Life (Website)Crowdocracy (Book – GoodReads)Integral Theory PodcastThe Daily EvolverEveryone is Right – Integral Life (iTunes)Everyone is Right – Integral Life (Google Play)Also Mentioned:Doxacon – Faith and Fandom Convention (Online Conference) The post Wake Up, Grow Up, Clean Up, Show Up appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
62 minutes | Sep 20, 2021
Carmen De Jesus – Consent and Our Livelihoods
Today’s episode is a collaboration with my friend, Karryn Olson. She’s currently hosting a series of conversations exploring what work could look, feel like, and give rise to, if our efforts were dedicated to collective thriving and evolution.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/WheelOfConsent.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window During these times with Karryn and her guests, we’ll hear them explore visions of what the world could look like if we dedicated more of the hours of our day towards work in service to life. And what it could mean—to us, our communities, and the world—if we earned our living through this work. Join the Podcast Patreon CommunityDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser via VenmoOr online using PayPalFind the guest for this episode, Carmen Leilani DeJesus at museyouneedmost.me and on Instagram @consentisapractice. You can find our host for this episode, Karryn Olson, at Regenepreneurs.com and additional resources from her session with Carmen at Regenepreneurs.com/dejesus. I’m collaborating with Karryn to share more conversations from this series with you in the future on The Permaculture Podcast. If you’d like to see what’s coming up from Karryn and her guests, including joining in on an upcoming live session via this link: Cultivating Livelihoods In Service to Life: A Conversation SeriesKarryn’s next session is on Wednesday, October 6th, at 8 pm Eastern with the folks from the Meaningful Work Project. In hearing what Karryn was working on, I wanted to share these conversations with you on The Permaculture Podcast, because the specific interviews and themes of the overall series speak to the growing dissonance I’ve experienced myself and heard from listeners between trying to make our way through the world while staying true to your values and the ethics of permaculture, while trading one’s work energy for dollars that are earned through practices that seem extractive, meaningless, or, in the words and title of the book by the late David Graber, like a bullshit job. And as if that weren’t enough, we’re navigating all this while feeling, in our bones and in our souls, the impacts of growing climate disruption, increasing wealth inequality, continual social injustice, ongoing pandemic chaos, and the myriad of other social and environmental ills all around us. To help us with this, Karryn is speaking with numerous guests across a variety of disciplines to explore topics that move our individual mindset and shift our cultural paradigms. Some of those include: Right livelihoods.Collective liberation.Regenerative entrepreneurship.Social innovation.Decolonizing our concepts of “work.”And the importance of embracing pleasure and grief. Listened to individually or taken together, it is Karryn and I’s desire to revitalize you and your work as we, all of us, stand together and cross the thresholds of our time. Until we meet again, spend your days ranting about your needs and wants, meditating on whether you are saying yes willingly or out of a sense of obligation, and considering what work feels like in your body, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other. The post Carmen De Jesus – Consent and Our Livelihoods appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
39 minutes | Sep 13, 2021
Scott Gallant – Tropical Permaculture in Costa Rica
Our individual permaculture practices are rooted in the teachers we learn with. In the books we read to expand our knowledge. In the videos we watch on YouTube to answer a particular question. Or the documentaries we find on Netflix that give us a sense of connection to the larger world. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/TropicalPermaculture-1.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New Window Our practices are also grounded in the hyper-local. In the bioregion where we tend the soil and care for plants and animals. Among the communities, people, and cultures we come from and where we find ourselves at this moment.As someone from the United States living in Central America, my guest today, Scott Gallant, shares his experiences in these different regions and how his location in the world influences his approach to design, universal lessons, and specific solutions. We also talk about the cultural and economic differences between Costa Rica and the United States, and adapting to our local conditions.Join the Podcast Patreon CommunityDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser via VenmoOr online using PayPal Find Scott and his design work at Porvenirdesign.com. The design project he mentioned working on is Finca Luna Nueva Lodge. And he’s part of a Permaculture Design Course in Costa Rica from November 13th to the 26th, 202 at Finca Luna Nueva and Brave Earth Community Permaculture Design Course I would like to encourage anyone who is able to travel and visit permaculture sites within their own bioregion and elsewhere, including Scott’s invitation to head to Costa Rica. If you haven’t seen permaculture on the ground in a variety of contexts, it can be different from what we might imagine, especially as the techniques move away from the conditions in Australia that started the movement or the often discussed temperate climate food forest. Permaculture is, as Scott shared, different in all the places where it’s practiced as it spreads across the world. I’ve often joked at times, though I still believe the core idea to be true, that if you wanted to you could create a permaculture design that looks like a Victorian tea garden. By applying our ethics, principles, strategies, and techniques to that form, the results can function within the ecosystem. By imagining designs like that and being exposed to what people are doing and the practices they’re engaging in, the plants they use to fill out their design, and then how they incorporate it all together, we can be inspired and filled with ideas to take back to where we’re from and radically transform our ideas of what permaculture looks like in our landscapes and in our communities. The post Scott Gallant – Tropical Permaculture in Costa Rica appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
43 minutes | Sep 5, 2021
Anna Urbanek – Herbalist’s Primer
My longest-running hobby—one I’ve participated in since I was a child, long before discovering permaculture—is playing tabletop roleplaying games. Perhaps the most well-known of those that you’ve heard of, or played yourself, is Dungeons and Dragons. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/HerbalistsPrimer.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowGrowing up hearing my family members tell stories, I experienced how they drew you in and spun a yarn, but it was at the gaming table where I learned to create collaborative tales with others and engage in oral storytelling of my own. This is also where I found my voice and how to engage others in conversation. Though the technical skills for podcasting came from experiences as a radio DJ in college and later working in Information Technology during my 20s, The Permaculture Podcast and hundreds of interviews in the archives wouldn’t exist without this lifelong love of developing characters, rolling dice, and experiencing imaginative adventures.Join the Podcast Patreon CommunityDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser via VenmoOr online using PayPalWhen not working on the show, I play role-playing games with my friends or have conversations about those types of games on Twitter. It was there that I found and began to follow the work of today’s guest, Anna Urbanek. She is the author of Herbalist’s Primer, a book designed as a gaming supplement, with a broad appeal not only to gamers but to anyone interested in plants, gardening, magic, or folklore. We explore those subjects, and more in the interview. Kickstarter: Herbalist’s Primer Anna’s Twitter: 2xproficiency Anna’s Website: DoubleProficiency.com This was a fun interview for me and I’m super enthusiastic about Herbalist’s Primer. The book draws together these different interests into one place and invites people who might only know one or two of these areas to explore so many more. And it reminds me of something I heard many years ago about how to bring more people into permaculture. The reply, which I believe came from David Holmgren though I am not certain at the moment, was that we approach people that are already looking over the fence. Maybe they don’t want the whole design but would love to learn to compost, save rainwater, or organize in their community. Reaching out to them and sharing books like Herbalist’s Primer is one approach to blending what we love so much with the desires of others. From here, the next interview is a conversation with Scott Gallant about Permaculture in the Global Tropics. Until the next time, spend your days playing games, telling stories, and taking care of Earth, your self, and each other. The post Anna Urbanek – Herbalist’s Primer appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
57 minutes | Aug 22, 2021
David Dodd – Disasters and Resilience
A note on the content for today’s episode. The interview which follows is a discussion of disasters and their impacts, including food insecurity, personal injury, and suicide. Listener discretion is advised.How do we prepare ourselves for disasters, whether natural or manmade, such as a seasonal storm, global pandemic, economic collapse, or political upheaval?https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/DavidDodd.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowThis question forms the basis for co-host David Bilbrey’s interview with David Dodd. Mr. Dodd is the founder of International Sustainable Resilience Center, a non-profit focused on helping communities recover from disasters and build the capacity necessary to prepare for and withstand these disruptions in the future.Join the Podcast Patreon CommunityDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser via VenmoOr online using PayPalSpecializing in economic development and drawing from his experiences in Louisiana, Japan, Mexico, and Puerto Rico, David begins by sharing ways to achieve resilience throughout a local region by investing in small businesses, growing individual entrepreneurship, and creating continuity plans. The conversation then shifts in a more personal direction as he provides an intimate look at several transformative experiences from his own life and his perspective on the four steps to take to move our individual lives and communities towards resilience. Throughout, he shares stories and anecdotes that weave all these lessons together.Find David Dodd’s work with the International Sustainable Resilience Center at isrc-ppp.org.When I first sat down to edit this episode, I wasn’t sure where this conversation with the heavy initial focus on economic development would fit into the catalog of The Permaculture Podcast. Though I take a broad view on what it means to practice these ethics and principles in our individual lives and society and focus less on the landscape during interviews in order to expand the community discussion of what permaculture can look like beyond that space, there was quite a bit of this interview which initially sounded like it was steeped in the world of business as usual.As I listened to David talk about the kind of work he’s engaged in, however, the way these systems move resources and knowledge, from government to small business, from the national to the regional and local level, began to make sense and made me think of Chapter 14 of Bill Mollison’s Designers’ Manual. That chapter highlights many different ways to look at permaculture outside the garden or homestead and remains a reminder from one of permaculture’s co-founders, of all the pieces of our society that need the application of our beloved design. So far, however, we’ve only begun to scratch the surface. Knowing what David and the International Sustainable Resilience Center, and other related organizations, are doing provides us an opportunity to engage with these allies and ensure people, communities, and Earth are considered and planned for in all of their actions.If you know of or work with communities, companies, or non-profits that apply permaculture to their practice of inculcating resiliency, I’d like to learn more about them. Leave a comment below.Until the next time, explore what you find most sustaining to your well-being and participate in the activities that build you personal and community resilience, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.Related InterviewsCommunity Development Finance with Bill SommersZev Friedman on Co-Operate WNC, Mutual Aid, and the Scale of CollaborationDesigning for Disasters: Understanding and Mitigating Wildfires | Matt FidlerEmergency Management and Disaster Preparedness (Chris Gilmour)Designing for Disasters with Natural Building (Olive Goshey)ResourcesInternational Sustainable Resilience CenterDoughnut Economics The post David Dodd – Disasters and Resilience appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
45 minutes | Aug 16, 2021
Eric Puro – Chaga and Medicinal Mushrooms
In this episode, I’m joined by my friend Eric Puro as we catch up on what he’s been doing since we last saw each other in 2016. Quite a bit has changed since then, as he’s now living in Finland running a biotech company that cultivates chaga fungi, manages forests holistically, and explores the nutritional qualities, health benefits, and medicinal properties of mushrooms.https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/Chaga.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser OnlineJoin The Permaculture Podcast Patreon CommunityThough he’s now in the for-profit world, he continues to bring the spirit of permaculture and connection to all of this work.Find Eric and his biotech work at KaapaBiotech.com. Their line of single-species extracts, including chaga, lion’s mane, reishi, and shiitake, at KaapaHealth.com. Their work on mushroom cultivation in Finland is at NordicMushrooms.com and forest management at KaapaForest.fi.Below are my other interviews with Eric, including our first time together, talking about The Poosh all those years ago, as well as round-table, community conversations recorded when I visited Eric and friends while he was still in Kentucky. In the episode Community and Traditions, Eric facilitated the conversation when I stepped away to call my children, so you can hear him in the host seat for bit.Though they’re all different from the interview today, I’m sure you’ll like those glimpses into the history of the show and hearing more about Eric’s worldview and philosophy about connection to place through engagement. Long before I went off to university to study computer science and worked as a radio DJ, the skills and experiences that lead me to create this show, I wanted to be a medical doctor who incorporated holistic health, clinical herbalism, and plant-based options into my practice. As a teenager, I attended classes and workshops, grew a small herbarium, made tinctures and extracts, and read whatever I could get my hands-on when it came to plants as medicine. Unable to find a program that I felt fit this particular path at that time, it was the mid-90s after all, I went in a different direction. Still, I continue to hold a broad whole-person approach to how we can create, sustain, and promote our health and well-being.Now, in addition to working regularly with my doctor on preventative medicine and to resolve acute issues, with the ongoing research that shows the benefits of fungi for human health, part of my wellness plan includes incorporating mushrooms into my diet. As we closed out the interview, I’d like to continue the conversation with Eric to go further into the world of medicinal mushrooms and see if something like an extract or tincture is right for my overall goals.If you’re using mushrooms in your life for food or medicine, or have a question you’d like included in a follow-up interview with Eric about Medicinal or Psychedelic mushrooms, let me know. Leave a comment below or get in touch in the usual ways. Until the next time our paths cross, spend each day caring for your health, while taking care of Earth, yourself, and each other.Related InterviewsCommunity and Traditions (Where Eric takes over the duties as host.)Community BuildingWe Can All Be BuildersNatural Building and The POOSH The post Eric Puro – Chaga and Medicinal Mushrooms appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
71 minutes | Aug 7, 2021
David Holmgren’s Design Journey (Part 2)
In today’s interview, Dan Palmer of Making Permaculture Stronger, and David Holmgren continue their conversation about David’s design journey. In this episode they discuss founding Holmgren Design in the 1980s, David’s work as a professional designer and how that influenced his thoughts on permaculture over time, and the ideas that lead to his authoring Permaculture Principles and Pathways Beyond Sustainability and RetroSuburbia. Throughout, they share more about how David’s knowledge and understanding of reading the landscape developed. https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/DesignJourney-Part2.mp3Click here to download the episode. | Open Player in New WindowDonate to the Summer to Fall Fundraiser OnlineJoin The Permaculture Podcast Patreon CommunityAs I share this interview with you, if you’d like to learn how to read the landscape, David and Dan are working on a film to demonstrate and teach you David’s methods of Reading Landscapes. To complete this film, they’re looking to raise $35,000. As this podcast comes out, in early August, they’re at over $15,000 raised, with less than a month to go.I see this video and the knowledge presented as vital if we’re going to implement permaculture and regenerative agriculture on a broad scale, which is one of the reasons I personally supported this effort.You can find and back this effort at readinglandscape.orgFind out more about the development of David’s demonstration site and other work at melliodora.com. You can dive deep into his principles and pick up many of his books, including RetroSuburbia and the revised edition of Permaculture: Principles and Pathways at permacultureprinciples.com.Dan is at makingpermaculturestronger.net.After speaking with hundreds of guests over the years, and trading thousands of emails and phone calls with listeners to the show, every person I’ve been in contact with shared a unique story of how they discovered permaculture, learned design and then implemented these ideas in their lives and in the landscape. I found it interesting in these interviews between Dan and David, that, even as a co-originator of permaculture, David’s journey changed and developed so much over time, from those earliest days with Bill and developing the concepts that became permaculture, to deepening his design understanding in conversations and mentorship with Haikai Tane, the decades as a professional designer at Holmgren Design, and the implementation at his mother’s property and at Melliodora.Wherever we begin, and however our path changes, as students and teachers, advocates and practitioners of permaculture, we can work together to create a world of verdant abundance. From here, the next episode is a conversation with my old friend Eric Puro who updates us on how he’s transitioned from natural building to biotech, growing 10s of thousands of kilos of chaga mushrooms in the forests of Finland.Until the next time our paths cross, spend each day exploring your design path, while taking care of Earth, yourself, and each other.Related InterviewsDavid Holmgren – RetroSuburbiaRevising Permaculture with David HolmgrenDavid Holmgren on Permaculture The post David Holmgren’s Design Journey (Part 2) appeared first on The Permaculture Podcast.
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