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The Pedestal Podcast
81 minutes | May 8, 2020
Caddyshack (EP32) with Jay Onrait
In this episode, we achieve total consciousness with the 1980 Harold Ramis sports comedy CADDYSHACK. We’re joined by special guest Jay Onrait (SC with Jay and Dan) and after Jay discloses the video store racket he ran back in Boyle, Alberta, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with Chevy Chase’s run as America’s top leading man. We get into why the movie’s loose structure works in its favour, we go deep into the combined brilliance of Rodney Dangerfield and Ted Knight, and Jay wonders if this it the movie that finally made golf cool. We then move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with Mike taking issue with Bill Murray’s affected performance. We all rag on what’s wrong with Danny’s story, Pops wonders why a movie called “Caddyshack” has so little to do with caddies, and Shane takes perhaps his most controversial stance in the podcast’s history: why the movie’s famous fart sound was no good.
65 minutes | May 8, 2020
Sleepless in Seattle (EP31) with Ana Golja
In this episode, we don’t want to be in love, we want to be in love in a movie with the 1993 Nora Ephron romantic comedy SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE. We’re joined by special guest Ana Golja (The Cuban, Degrassi: The Next Class) and after Pops explains why “The Cable Guy” is what first drew him to this movie, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how, despite the title, the movie is truly a cross-country epic. We get into how much we love Hanks, how the side characters all pulled their weight too, and how the movie had some genuinely laugh out loud jokes. We then move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with a massive Meg Ryan debate. We talk about the movie’s very saggy middle, we wonder whether the movie’s mood doesn’t match its plot, and Shane and Pops try to punch up the climactic Empire State scene.
96 minutes | May 8, 2020
The Goonies (EP30)
In this episode, we gotta do the Truffle Shuffle with the 1985 Richard Donner adventure comedy THE GOONIES. After Shane discloses his childhood dream of actually being a Goonie himself, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with debating what made Corey Feldman such a charismatic star. We talk about the beautiful setting of the town itself, why Chunk is the movie’s true breakout character and Pops ponders the differences between Richard Donner and Steven Spielberg’s directing styles. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the movie’s bizarre ending. We debate whether or not nostalgia is the only reason The Goonies remains well regarded, Pops complains about the movie’s annoying "kid" energy, and we go deep into Sean Astin's infamous kiss.
78 minutes | Jan 20, 2020
There's Something About Mary (EP29) with Miguel Rivas
In this episode, some of our best friends don’t know our names with the 1998 Farrelly Brothers comedy THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY. We’re joined by special guest Miguel Rivas (The Beaverton, Baroness Von Sketch Show) and after getting our mind’s blown by learning how much money this movie made at the box office, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with the underrated comedic brilliance of Keith David as Mary’s stepdad. We discuss how effectively the film moves through so many different styles of comedy, Shane defends Diaz as his choice for the movie’s MVP, and we all give it up for the epic “Puffy” dog fight. We then move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with all its troubling gay panic humour. We ponder whether or not the Farrellys Trojan-horsed in offensive jokes, Miguel stands up for both Brett Favre AND Sarah Silverman, and finally we do a deep dive on the infamous hair gel scene.
79 minutes | Jan 13, 2020
The Exorcist (EP28)
In this episode, it’s an excellent day for an exorcism, with the 1973 supernatural horror film THE EXORCIST. After Pops reveals the movie that scared him the most as a kid (Spoiler: Gremlins), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with the movie’s most audacious and outrageous lines. We laud the patience and process it has with its story, talk about how its incredible special effects still hold up, and Shane and Pops argue over what is truly the best scene. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the bizarre and abhorrent British director character. We wonder how long it would actually take to be convinced that someone was possessed, Shane admonishes the priests for not tag-teaming the demon, as we all take issue with “Captain Howdy”.
107 minutes | Jan 6, 2020
Se7en (EP27) with Kelleth Cuthbert
In this episode, we’re no messiah, we’re a movie of the week, with the 1995 David Fincher crime thriller SE7EN. We’re joined by special guest, Golden Globes Water Girl Kelleth Cuthbert (Bold and the Beautiful, Inside Edition) and after Kelleth compares notes with Pops on what life is like as a tall person, we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with Morgan Freeman’s masterful performance. We argue over when Brad Pitt was at his hottest, Kelleth does her best impression of the famous “What’s in the Box” scene, and Pops dives into the movie’s deep hatred of city life. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the Great Spacey Debate. We question whether or not the opening title sequence is stuck in the 90s, Shane describes why a barber would make the perfect criminal and Mike asks the question that fans of Se7en have pondered for years: who do you prefer on Frasier, Roz or Daphne?
92 minutes | Dec 9, 2019
The Princess Bride (EP26) with Jordan Claire Robbins
In this episode, you killed our father so prepare to die with the 1987 Rob Reiner fantasy adventure classic THE PRINCESS BRIDE. We’re joined by special guest Jordan Claire Robbins (The Umbrella Academy, Supernatural) and begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how much we loved Fred Savage and his grandfather. Pops gushes over Andre the Giant (and reveals his secret passion for professional wrestling) and Shane does a reading of Inigo Montoya’s climatic scene that brings the house down. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the one scene that is so disastrous it was like it came from another movie. We go deep into “The Buttercup Problem” and Jordan takes major issue with Wesley’s mask.
98 minutes | Dec 2, 2019
The Breakfast Club (EP25) with Cynthia Loyst
In our 25th episode, we mess with the bull and get the horns with the 1985 John Hughes teen comedy/drama THE BREAKFAST CLUB. We’re joined by special guest Cynthia Loyst (The Social, Author of “Find Your Pleasure: The Art of Living a More Joyful Life”) and begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how realistically it portrayed its teenage characters. We debate which of them each of us relate to the most, Cynthia goes into how much of the comedy still holds up, and Pops talks about why some of themes hit home so personally. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the ridiculous choreographed dance scenes, we discuss why Bender’s behaviour would never be tolerated in a movie today, and we go deep on how much we all were disappointed by Allison’s makeover.
70 minutes | Nov 25, 2019
The Big Lebowski (EP24) with Max Kerman
In this episode, we really tie the room together with the 1998 Coen Brothers crime comedy THE BIG LEBOWSKI. We’re joined by Arkells frontman and fellow "Mike on Much" host Max Kerman, and begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how much Max likes all the swearing in the movie. We get into all the classic quotable lines, the legendary characters (especially Jesus), and Max gives a big thumbs to all the Jewish humour throughout. We move onto the case for knocking it off the pedestal with how episodic the whole thing sometimes feels, how annoying we all found Julianne Moore, and Shane and Pops argue over whether or not the Coens can pull off absurdist comedy.
76 minutes | Nov 18, 2019
Jerry Maguire (EP23) with Matt Unsworth
In this episode, you had us at hello with the 1996 Cameron Crowe romantic dramatic comedy JERRY MAGUIRE. We are joined once again by Matt Unsworth (Heist Podcast) and after touching on Crowe’s hot streak up to that point (3:11) and his fascination with becoming the next Billy Wilder (14:12), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how young Jonathan Lipnicki may have stolen the show (19:01). We talk about Cuba Gooding Jr’s Oscar winning performance (25:36), we debate whether or not Cush’s dad was a racist (31:58), and get into why the “had me at hello” scene holds up even better than we all remembered (37:52). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with whether or not Dorothy was too much of an idealized female character (48:41). Mike does the math on Jerry’s wild flight times (53:39), we break down why this movie is sometimes not as smart as it thinks it is (1:01:34), and Pops mounts a defense against the film’s attack on jazz (1:11:06).
95 minutes | Nov 11, 2019
Billy Madison (EP22)
In this episode, we are the smartest men alive with the 1995 Adam Sandler comedy BILLY MADISON. After discussing the hits and misses of the Sandman’s early career (7:01), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with a celebration of this movie’s bizarre absurdist style (15:46). We discuss why Eric is one of the all-time great comedy villains (23:11), how Sandler is actually a secret perfectionist (31:21), and Shane explains why the “Sloppy Joes” scene transformed him (41:57). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with Billy’s “assault brutha” (52:02). Shane argues that this movie contributed to a lot of childhood bullying (56:04), Pops compares the movie to “Succession” in its depictions of extreme wealth (1:03:27), and we debate whether or not O’Doyle actually ruled (1:19:30).
84 minutes | Nov 4, 2019
The Matrix (EP21)
In this episode, we know kung fu with the 1999 cyberpunk sci fi classic THE MATRIX. After we all reminisce about our high school band experiences (10:23), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with how the movie kicks off with such a big bang (14:55). We debate about the fine balance between the movie’s slick action and grand philosophies (24:10), Shane wonders if Cypher was an incel (36:58), and Mike asks us all if we recognize AI as a real life form (44:30). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with how the rules of the matrix seemed wildly inconsistent throughout the movie (54.04). Pops complains about the pointlessness of the Oracle (56:17), Shane rips on Keanu’s reading of “Déjà vu” (1:01:10), and we all ruminate over Carrie-Anne Moss’s career post-Matrix (1:13:48).
76 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
Titanic (EP20) with Chloe Wilde
In the final episode of season two, we jump if you jump with the 1997 James Cameron romantic epic TITANIC. We’re joined by special guest Chloe Wilde (eTalk, Healthy is Hot Podcast) who first recounts why seeing this movie with her mom traumatized her as a kid (6:10). We then begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with some love for Kathy Bates and Victor Garber (14:54) and James Horner’s celebrated score (17:46). We talk about how the special effects were ahead of their time (25:31), we all fawn over Leo (33:29), and Shane explains why he loves it when a loser turns out to be the cool guy (37:53). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with all the problems we had with Rose both young (41:22) and old (45:58). We dive deep into the “door” debate (52:42), and Chloe gripes about Billy Zane’s aggressively one note performance (1:03:57).
75 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
Napoleon Dynamite (EP19)
In this episode, we make all of your wildest dreams come true with the 2004 indie cult comedy NAPOLEON DYNAMITE After Pops defends seeing it NINE times in movie theatres (4:52), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with a discussion about comedy auteurs and if Jared Hess is truly one of them (16:15). We talk about why Kip rules (22:37), Pops posits that there’s a lot more plot going on than meets the eye (30:40), and Shane votes for Pedro as his favorite character (35:08). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with all the hacky impressions it spawned (48:55), we examine why “Rex Kwan Do” feels like it belongs in an entirely different movie (55:19), and then talk about the creepy turn the film took with Uncle Rico (1:06:18).
76 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
He Got Game (EP18)
In this episode, we cross you to the left and take you back to the right with the 1998 Spike Lee joint HE GOT GAME. After both Shane and Mike disclose the legitimate cameos they have in two other massive basketball movies (8:04), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with Shane’s big reveal of what he now thinks of Ray Allen’s performance (11:54). We get into Spike Lee’s unique style as a director (25:13), why the story may be more sci-fi than sports (31:04), and discuss the legendary one on one game between Allen and Denzel (37:52). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with the bewildering hooker subplot (53:21), how many of the secondary characters constantly drag the movie down (58:23), and Pops has a major beef with the orchestral music choices (1:04:48).
69 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
Big Fish (EP17)
In our final Personal Pedestal episode of season 2, we’re living in a fairy tale with the 2003 Tim Burton fantasy comedy BIG FISH. Mike explains why this movie is on his own personal pedestal, and what it was like to try and hold back his tears watching it alone in a movie theatre (6:10). After a deep dive into our thoughts on Tim Burton’s career (11:45), we begin the case for putting it on the pedestal with the movie’s theory that stories are meant to be more about feelings than facts (20:43). We get into Albert Finney’s show-stopping “Crow” joke (33:15), and why the ending might be the greatest of all time (41:50). We move on to the case for keeping it off the pedestal with Ewan McGregor’s bizarre accent work (44:53). We debate the harshness of Billy Cruddup’s performance (49:18), how the love story may not have aged that well (54:55), and Mike speculates if this movie has the ultimate storytelling “cheat code” built into it (1:04:21).
83 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
In our second Personal Pedestal episode, we’re your number one fan with the 1990 adaptation of the Stephen King horror novel MISERY. Pops explains why this movie is on his own personal pedestal, and how he’s been a devout Stephen King superfan since childhood (2:56). We then begin the case for putting it on the pedestal with the tour de force performance of Kathy Bates (8:37). We talk about the iconic sledgehammer scene (15:33), the prescience this film had on the rise of toxic fandom (30:17), and Mike makes the argument that Annie Wilkes is just a very effective creative director (46:36). We move on to the case for keeping it off the pedestal with the general “TV Movie” quality of the film (51:36), the myriad problems we all had with the ending (1:03:51), and we fiercely debate whether or not Wilkes uses a racial slur (1:07:37). Finally Mike wonders if the movie tips too far into being just “suffer porn” (1:11:07).
67 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
The Rules of Attraction (EP15)
In our first ever Personal Pedestal episode, we’re emotional vampires with the 2002 Roger Avary black comedy THE RULES OF ATTRACTION. Shane explains why this movie is on his own personal pedestal, and why it made him think Roger Avary was a superior director to Quentin Tarantino (8:36). We then begin the case for putting it on the pedestal with the kinds of risks Avary took that we had never seen before (13:42). We gush over the famous “movie within a movie” euro trip scene (15:53), debate whether or not the dark satire does more damage than good (31:20), and if Paul was the breakout character (42:09). We move on to the case for keeping it off the pedestal with Van Der Beek feeling very miscast (51:13), how everything has a “student film” quality (54:17), and why in retrospect Shane found so much of this movie very annoying (58:42).
82 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (EP14)
In this episode, we need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle with the 1991 Arnold Schwarzenegger action blockbuster TERMINATOR 2: JUDGEMENT DAY. After Pops divulges all the different ways this movie traumatized him in his youth (7:13), we begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with discussing what makes James Cameron such a prolific director (12:01). We debate how “sexy” Arnold is in this movie (17:30), how the special effects are still mind blowing (32:12), and whether or not Linda Hamilton actually stole the show (45:41). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with all the problems with the biker bar scene (52:15), Mike points out a very cringe worthy T-1000 line (1:01:01), and we discuss the inherent paradoxes that exist in any story about time travel (1:16:03).
64 minutes | Jul 8, 2019
Ghost (EP13) with Matt Unsworth
In this episode, we’re hungry for your touch with the 1990 Patrick Swayze romantic thriller GHOST. We’re joined by our very first guest, Hollywood screenwriter Matt Unsworth (Happy Together, Heist Podcast) as we first recollect how scary the demons were for us as kids (7:22). We then begin the case for keeping it on the pedestal with all things Whoopi (12:14). We all debate whether it’s worth going crazy for Swayze (18:09), Mike praises the logic of the supernatural plot (28:23), and Unsworth explains why he loves the ending and its possible larger ramifications (38:12). We move on to the case for knocking it off the pedestal with how tonally disjointed it feels throughout (41:06), Pops gets pissed about the rules of being a ghost (44:50), and we wonder if this entire movie runs only on star power (49:45). Finally, after a historic deadlock, Mike on Much co-host and Arkells front man Max Kerman drops in to cast the deciding vote (1:03:22).
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