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I talk with friend and filmmaker Drew Sandoval. I met Drew in film school back in 1999. We talk about his career as a set dresser on commercials and television pilots. Drew talks about working with Michael Bay and Paul Anderson on commercials.

Filmmaking stud John Hess is back for one final round. We talk about what its like to work with John, we give our thoughts on crowd begging...funding on kickstarter and indie go go the red camera also veers its ugly head back in. John talks about his next film and what his potential dream project is.

John and I are still going at it. We talk about his website www.filmmakeriq.com. Which is a great resource for filmmakers he operates with Dennis Quaid. John vents about kids with red camera rage who talk camera masturbation but can't spin a story to save their lives. We also talk about our love of 80s music, Peter Jackson, Steven Speilberg. John was one of the handful of people who saw War Horse!

My friend Kurt and I discuss philosophy and politics. Religious organization are required to pay for contraceptives in their workers health care plans according to Obama's healthcare law. Religious leaders are urging cilvil disobedience is this morally justified? We tackle that and the Susan Komen / Planned Parenthood debacle.