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Episode Credits: Writer and Host: Colton Bernasol Music by Lucas Manning Producer: Lucas Manning Executive Producer: Emanuel Padilla Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses.

Episode Credits: Writer and Host: Colton Bernasol Music by Lucas Manning Producer: Lucas Manning Executive Producer: Emanuel Padilla Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. About Colton Bernasol Colton Bernasol is an editor and writer from Plainfield, Illinois, a Southwest suburb in the Chicagoland area. He graduated from Wheaton College with a BA in Philosophy and Biblical/Theological Studies and from Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary with an MA in Theology and Ethics. He writes at the intersection of religion, society, and culture. Currently, he lives in Chicagoland with his wife Anna. Sign up for his newsletter, Provisional.

Episode Credits: Writer and Host: Colton Bernasol Music by Lucas Manning Producer: Lucas Manning Executive Producer: Emanuel Padilla Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. Episode Copyright 2022 - World Outspoken. All rights reserved. Visit our website terms of use at www.worldoutspoken.com for more information.

Introducing a new mini-series on the Mestizo Podcast called “Navigating Symbolic Devastation.” Many of you submitted questions asking for episodes that deal with deconstruction, church trauma, and the grief and dissonance we feel about Christianity. What happens when the symbols of Christianity become deeply associated with racism, patriarchy, and violence? How do we recover the meaning of Christian symbols, when they’ve been coopted for years, even centuries? We invited Colton Bernasol, essay contributor, theologian, and friend of World Outspoken to help us answer these questions. Over the next weeks, we’ll journey with him as he helps us navigate symbolic devastation. Episode Credits: Writer and Host: Colton Bernasol Music by Lucas Manning Producer: Lucas Manning Executive Producer: Emanuel Padilla Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses.

On this final episode of the season, your hosts answer your questions about the Mestizo church, themes of the season, and tell you what is coming next for the Mestizo Podcast. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Complete the Survey: Use this link to complete the survey and help us learn how we can better serve you. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses.

We sit down with Jeremy and Angelica Barahona to discuss their church plant efforts back home in West Palm Beach, Florida. We talk about why they returned home, chose to plant a new church, and the challenges they’ve faced in planting. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. The Light: Learn more about The Light Church by visiting their website.

On this bonus episode of the Mestizo Podcast, Emanuel sits down with last years Scholars in Residence to discuss their work for the year. They share about who they were listening to and how they were listening to serve. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. Learn more about the SIR: Here is the link to the Scholar in Residence Program.

After writing Rediscipling the White Church, Pastor David W. Swanson has gone on to be an important voice in Christian racial solidarity movements. On this episode, we sit down to talk to him about his vision for rediscipleship, why he prefers brother/sister language over “ally,” and what it means to have fellowship with rediscipled white congregations. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. Reading: Here is the link to the article by Pastor Swanson. About Pastor Swanson David is the founding pastor of New Community Covenant Church, a multiracial congregation on the South Side of Chicago. He also serves as the CEO of New Community Outreach, a non-profit organization working to reduce causes of trauma and raise opportunities for equity. David’s book, Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Discipleship, is available now. Read more from David at his website, dwswanson.com.

We sit down with Dra. Teresa Deglado to talk about the personal dynamics of the diaspora, the family motivations that drove Delgado’s research, and how to recover the links between Island and Barrio. Dra. Delgado tells us why literature was so important to her decolonial theology, and we get into a little Puerto Rican history. Elizabeth and I also share some of our family stories to understand the Puerto Rican colonial condition. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. About Dra. Delgado Teresa Delgado is Dean of St. John's College of Liberal Arts and Sciences at St. John's University. Her more recent publications include Augustine and Social Justice, co-edited with John Doody and Kim Paffenroth (2015), and contributions to Queer Christianities: Lived Religion in Transgressive Forms (2014), Reinterpreting Virtues and Values in the U.S. Public Sphere (2013), and More Than a Monologue: Sexual Diversity and the Catholic Church, Volume 1 (2013). Delgado serves on the Board of Directors for WESPAC Foundation (Westchester Peace Action Coalition) and lives in Mount Vernon, NY with her husband and their four children.

On this episode, we sit down with Dra. Alexia Salvatierra to discuss community development between Californios and recent immigrants, asking questions about how she manages to develop mutuality between the immigrant and citizen. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. About Dra. Salvatierra Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra is the Academic Dean of the Centro Latino and the Assistant Professor of Integral Mission and Global Transformation at Fuller Theological Seminary. She has over 40 years of experience in ministries of community transformation, in the US and internationally. She is the co-author of Faith-Rooted Organizing: Mobilizing the Church in Service to the World and Buried Seeds: Learning from the Vibrant Resilience of Marginalized Christian Communities. Her favorite title is Madrina, given to her by the rising leaders whom she mentors.

On this bonus episode, we sit down with Jasmine Rodriguez and Micah Bournes to discuss the themes of their songs “Kiss” and “Water.” We talk about the generational resistance to black beauty and respectability politics that shaped family patterns. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. New Music: Listen to Micah Bournes music and poetry here. Listen to more of Jasmine’s music here. About the artists Micah Bournes is a musician and poet from Long Beach, California. His work is full of vulnerable narratives touching on themes of culture, justice, and faith. For over a decade he has toured the world performing and teaching creative writing workshops. Jasmine is a Dominican singer songwriter born in NYC, raised in Michigan and now based out of LA. She was inspired to do music to tell her story through vulnerability, to create spaces for healing and to inspire others to face their fears. 

Whoops! Look like there was an error in the audio. This has been corrected. Thank you to those that pointed this out.Dra. Nancy Bedford’s daughter once asked, “How can I be a good mother if I’m not a theologian?” On this episode, we sit down with Dra. Bedford and discuss motherhood and vocation and how she raised hijas nepantleras. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. New Music: Listen to Audax the Damsel’s original “Beads” and more here.

On this episode, we sit down with Dra. Liz Rios and Rev. Hiram Rios to discuss the dynamics of raising their special needs child, DJ. We discuss parenting and ministry, the role of humor and joy in a culture of erasure, and a theology of disability. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. About the Rios Family Liz Rios has been in ministry for over 32 years serving in various capacities in almost every area of the church including Executive Pastor and Co-Lead Pastor alongside her husband Rev. Hiram Rios. Hiram and Liz officially started in ministry in 1990. They pastored together in a local Florida church and eventually went on to plant their own until they stopped pastoring in 2016. Since then, Rev. Hiram has semi-retired to focus on his family, especially as primary caregiver to his special needs son and as a community minister via the Passion Center, where he hosts a monthly comedy show to bring laughter and joy to their South Florida community. Dr. Liz works as a Talent Acquisition Manager for Urban Strategies and as an adjunct professor and also serves as a Consulting Editor for Outreach Magazine, on the board of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition. In addition, she is a senior consultant for Freedom Road, LLC which coaches, consults, trains and designs experiences to help groups in multiple sectors do justice in just ways. Dr. Rios also serves on the Send Institute's Missiologists Council. Her work and experiences led her to start her own network Passion2Plant to encourage and support Black/Brown church planters committed to planting justice-oriented churches in urban communities right from the start. Hiram and Liz have two children, Samuel Eliu who recently graduated from Southeastern University and works part-time at Passion2Plant as Operations Assistant and Daniel Jeremiah (DJ) their "silent prophet" and special angel who has a number of ailments including epilepsy, cerebral palsy and hydrocephalus due to medical negligence. They met in church as teens and have been together for 34 years, 32 of them happily married.

On this episode, we are joined by Pastor Gail Song Bantum and Dr. Brian Bantum to discuss their new book Choosing Us: Marriage and Mutual Flourishing in a world of Difference. We ask them about death and love, confession and change, and how to read the stars. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: Whether you want a t-shirt, hoodie, baby onesie, journal, mug, or sticker, tenemos un poquito de todo. My favorite is the recently released "Product of Abuela's Prayers" crewneck, celebrating the theology we inherit from nuestras Abuelitas. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. About the Bantums Gail Song Bantum is lead pastor at Quest Church and has created four mentoring groups nationally for women of color leaders. A nationally known speaker on topics of justice, leadership, and mentoring, she has spoken at Why Christian?, Evolving Faith, Christian Community Development Association, and the Proctor Children's Defense Fund Conference, among others. Brian Bantum (PhD, Duke University) writes and speaks on the intersections of identity, race, and gender. He is the Neal F. and Ila A. Fisher Professor of Theology at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, a contributing editor for the Christian Century, and the author of The Death of Race: Building a New Christianity in a Racial World and Redeeming Mulatto: A Theology of Christian Hybridity.

On this episode, we welcome you back to the show, introduce the theme for the new season, “the dynamics between us,” and forecast some of what’s coming in the season. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Merch: You can now support the show and represent la Iglesia Mestiza. Check out our New merch store by visiting our store. Courses: Want to take courses that prepare you to face the challenges of doing ministry in the hyphen? Visit learn.worldoutspoken.com today and enroll in one of our newest courses. Special Offer: Don’t forget that as a listener of The Mestizo Podcast, you can get 30% off + free US shipping when you shop at InterVarsity Press and use the promo code: MESTIZO.

What would it look like if a church was planted with the expressed purpose of reaching bi-cultural, 2nd and 3rd generation Latinos? What would some of the initial challenges be? How would a pastoral team tackle them? On this bonus episode, we introduce you to World Outspoken’s newest podcast, La Ventanita. Pull up a seat with Jeremy Barahona and Joshua Suh to hear about the process of church planting on the south end of West Palm Beach… as it’s happening. La Ventanita Podcast gives you a behind the scenes look as Jeremy and his team launch The Light WPB, a church deeply committed to the neighborhood. Expect talk about everything from the Bible, hip-hop, and Latinidad. The episode you are about to hear gets into the honest struggle of church plant fundraising. For more episodes like this one, subscribe to La Ventanita on your favorite podcast app. And don’t forget the Mestizo Podcast returns this March 2022 with lo Bueno como siempre. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Purchase Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity Don’t forget that as a listener of The Mestizo Podcast, you can get 30% off + free US shipping when you use the promo code: MESTIZO. Don’t wait. Get a great deal on a great book, today.

On this episode, we switch things up, sitting down with 2x Dove Award Winner, Tu Premios Música Urbana winner, and co-owner of No Apologies Music, Jacob Cardec, known as Cardec Drums.  We sit down with Cardec to discuss his vision of bridging the English speaking hip hop world con la musica Cristiana Urbana. He shares his earliest experiences with the church, how he manages the tension of being between world, and the future of No Apologies Music. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Follow Cardec Drums on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cardecdrums/ Follow No Apologies Music: https://www.instagram.com/noapologiesmusic/ Purchase Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity Don’t forget that as a listener of The Mestizo Podcast, you can get 30% off + free US shipping when you use the promo code: MESTIZO. Don’t wait. Get a great deal on a great book, today. You can also register here to join Dr. Robert Chao Romero on THURSDAY, FEB 3 (2PM ET / 1 PM CT / 11 AM PT) for a webinar titled Developing Christian Leaders with Seminary Now. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page.

Today we introduce you to one of World Outspoken’s other amazing podcasts, Mixed Take. On this podcast Robert Rivera and Donielle Alicea discuss how the mixing of cultures and heritages in the US - influence film, television, and other forms of media and entertainment. On this episode, Doni and Robert interview actor and singer Jennifer Hudson and director Liesl Tommy on their film RESPECT. Doni and Robert also have interviews with actor, singer, and fellow Boricua, Robin De Jesus, actor Jimmy Gonzalez, and other episodes dealing with the ways the media landscape is changing. Check out Mixed Take on your favorite podcast app for more episodes like the one you’re about to hear. Oh and… If you haven’t heard of the book Brown Church, you’ll want to get yourself a copy today. Robert Chao Romero, the son of a Mexican father and a Chinese immigrant mother, explores the history and theology the “Brown Church.” Romero considers how for five hundred years, Latina/o culture and identity have been shaped by their challenges to religious, socioeconomic, and political status quo, and takes readers through this history of activism and faith in the Latina/o church. Brown Church appeals to the vision for redemption, which includes not only heavenly promises but also the transformation of our lives and the world. Get your copy today at ivpress.com. And as a listener of The Mestizo Podcast, you can get 30% off + free US shipping when you use the promo code: MESTIZO. Don’t wait. Get a great deal on a great book, today.

On this bonus episode, we hear from our sister and madrina, Elizabeth Conde-Frazier about her newest book, Atando Cabos: Latinx Contributions to Theological Education. We discuss the loose ends she explores, the importance of respect, and what we can all learn about how education is changing from the margins. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Learn more about the The 2021 Justo and Catherine Gonzalez Lecture Series here. Purchase Atando Cabos en Español here. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page.

A special season ending episode of el Mestizo Podcast, the show for the mixed people of the mixed church. On this episode, your hosts answer your questions about the Mestizo church, themes of the season, and tell you what is coming next for the Mestizo Podcast. Support the Mestizo Podcast by giving today. Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Leave us a message at 312-725-2995. Leave us a 30 second voicemail with your name, city, y pregunta and we’ll discuss it on the last episode of the season. You can also submit a question using the form on this page. Curious about Emanuel’s rapper days? Listen to Legacia today.