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ConvertKit founder and CEO, Nathan Barry, returned to the podcast this week and joined host Darrell Vesterfelt to talk about how he got his start, the competitive advantage of email marketing, and the future of email. Rainmaker.FM is Brought to You By Discover why more than 80,000 companies in 135 countries choose WP Engine for managed WordPress hosting. Start getting more from your site today! Nathan Barry founded his company to help founders, creators, and digital marketers serve their audiences better with email … and earn a living doing it. ConvertKit is an “email marketing company for creators” that offers its users powerful segmentation and automation tools without a lot of resources to implement. In this week’s episode Darrell and Nathan dig into email marketing from beginner to advanced, including: Nathan’s early views on digital marketing and why his core values haven’t changed How to build your audience (the right way) Why “Teach everything you know,” and “Work in public,” are still Nathan’s mottos The right time to build a product or sell something to your email list Why email is still the central hub for building your business And best practices for cleaning your list Listen to Copyblogger FM: Content Marketing, Copywriting, Freelance Writing, and Social Media Marketing below ... Download MP3 Subscribe by RSS Subscribe in iTunes The Show Notes Copyblogger.com Nathan’s Website Nathan on Twitter ConverKit The Future Belongs to Creators [Podcast] Resources Mentioned: Article: The ladders of wealth creation: a step-by-step roadmap to building wealth Article: Endure long enough to get noticed Article: Be Everywhere: Building a Profitable BRAND by Thinking Outside the Blog by Pat Flynn Darrell on Twitter Tim on Twitter