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The Late Service

43 Episodes

53 minutes | Jul 24, 2018
Episode 43 - Does Representation Matter in Leadership?
This week, Tricia and Steven dive into issues of representation, both in terms of gender and race, and how it affects church leadership. Is it critical for the leadership of your spiritual community to be reflective of the demographic? How does token-ism affect it? Find out why what you may be looking for goes beyond seeing someone who looks like you up on stage behind the pulpit.
43 minutes | Jul 3, 2018
Episode 42 - "It's Warmth that Changes People, Not Being a Blowhard"
After a couple weeks off as Steven traveled, they finally return to talk about everything from the immigration crisis, and how it reflects our modern theology of who's in and who's out of heaven and hell. They also talk about what it looks like actually build something positive in their lives, rather than simply living in reaction to terrible leadership that they've seen before.
57 minutes | Jun 12, 2018
Episode 41 - All of Your Questions, Answered!
This week, Tricia and Steven field questions from Instagram, covering everything from how to navigate changing beliefs in a community that might be resistant, to how to be someone who mends fences in our fractured culture, all the way to what should one consider before marriage.  
49 minutes | May 22, 2018
Episode 40 - Dream Interpretation 101
This week, Tricia and Steven dive into dream interpretation, and some basic steps to begin parsing out what our dreams are trying to say. Are they ourselves? Are they messages from the Lord? Are they prophecies? Are they demonic? Tricia and Steven lay out some practical guidelines to help open us all up to what God might be trying to say to us in our sleep.
50 minutes | May 15, 2018
Episode 39 - There's No Crying In Yoga - How to Honor our Bodies
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about their experiences loving their own physical bodies, and how often we seem to ask ourselves to do almost impossible physical tasks. How do we move away from a spirituality that despises the physical and instead embraces what God has given us? If you're wondering, this episode is for you!
51 minutes | May 9, 2018
Episode 38 - Getting Across the Finish Line
This episode, Tricia and Steven talk about abortion, pro-life vs pro-choice, as well as the strange tactics evangelical churches seem to embrace when it comes to educating their adolescents in the debate.  Then they spend time talking about why resistance seems to get greatest as we get towards the finish line of our goals, and how to overcome it.
55 minutes | May 2, 2018
Episode 37 - Processing Prophetic Words
This week, Tricia and Steven spend their time mostly debriefing about their encounters with a one Jeffrey Fazl, and how he came to Sunday Dinner and rocked their worlds.  They discuss what God spoke through Faz, as well as where they're headed forward.  They also try to dissect, why do some churches expect people to serve as an immediate part of their recovery from addiction or trauma?
50 minutes | Apr 24, 2018
Episode 36 - "You Never Have to Go In Alone"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about the very particular experience in churches of getting called into an office "for a talk."  They discuss how to manage your internal emotions, as well as what steps to take in order to make sure that you feel safe and secure enough to have a productive conversation, as well as what your actual rights are as a church member in these meetings.
43 minutes | Apr 17, 2018
Episode 35 - "The Whole Point of the Kingdom Is to Change Your Mind"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about what it means to actually have our minds changed, and why it's so difficult for us to be convinced that we might have something wrong.  They talk about how having an open mind is actually one of the most important markers of spiritual maturity, and how the more we mature, the more we actually learn just how much we don't know at all.
57 minutes | Apr 10, 2018
Episode 34 - "You Are What You Celebrate"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about the discipline of celebration in their lives, and why it's been difficult for them to do freely.  Also, they discuss why churches and spiritual communities oftentimes neglect this important spiritual discipline, and how to build it into our lives in a more intentional manner.  
56 minutes | Mar 27, 2018
Episode 33 - "Show Me the Person With the Dirt On Their Face, Who Got Out of the Hole, That's Who I Want to Follow"
This week, Tricia and Steven discuss the recent spate of content that seems to be gathering momentum based solely around knocking down certain spiritual enterprises that exist, such as being against missions work or organized churches.  How do we remain committed to the Capital-C Church, while still dealing with very real hurts, pains, and disappointments within lower-case-c churches?  They talk about how to navigate the narrow road in between two worlds, while challenging us to fight for constructive solutions.
58 minutes | Mar 20, 2018
Episode 32 - "What Would It Look Like If You Played It Big?"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about what it would look like to play it big in our lives.  So often, we play things smaller than we ought to, out of fear or anxiety, but what would it look like to have things be properly aligned to allow ourselves to take the risks we need?  They also talk about what it looks like to sometimes allow certain parts of our lives to downsize in order to let the right things grow.
62 minutes | Mar 13, 2018
Episode 31 - "The Miracles Confirm the Message"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about the difficulties of leading a community today.  From being called a "cult leader," to how to encourage people to get involved, they discuss facing challenges, as well as how to pursue what seems to be the greatest miracle of all these days: getting people to look beyond themselves, for a greater good.
69 minutes | Mar 6, 2018
Episode 30 - "Everyone Deals With Pain Differently"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about saying goodbye and processing recent loss in their community.  How do you grieve in a healthy way, and how can we be there for others in their grief as well?  They discuss the myriad of ways to be a good friend in the midst of loss, as well as discuss the strangeness of hearing a pastor of a large church say a racially-insensitive remark to Steven in front of Tricia.
52 minutes | Feb 27, 2018
Episode 29 - "We Are Always Doing the Social Calculus, but One Type of Person Generally Is Not"
This episode, Tricia and Steven get into a troublesome passage in a book on marriage that ignites a far-ranging conversation that delves into oppression, empathy, and the hit movie Black Panther.  They discuss why 1 Corinthians 7 gets so commonly misused in particular types of church cultures, and what to do about it if you find yourself in a context that seems to use passages selectively and oppressively.  
51 minutes | Feb 20, 2018
Episode 28 - "Every time I Stare Down the Dark Place, and Don't Blink, I Have Been Happy With What Is On the Other Side"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about what it means to push through the moments in our lives where we feel like we have nothing left to give.  They discuss what it's looked like in their own lives, what's gotten them through, and why those moments are actually vital to living a full life.  You don't want to miss this episode!
61 minutes | Feb 13, 2018
Episode 27 - "If You Really Want to Understand Community, You Have to Be In a Place Where You Are Actually Checking In With a Community"
This week, Tricia and Steven talk about vulnerability, and how to actually show up and be part of a community.  Some of the deepest issues facing the church today stem from disconnection, so Tricia and Steven talk about how to foster true connection in the context of smaller gatherings and actually allow ourselves to be seen for who we are.
52 minutes | Feb 6, 2018
Episode 26 - "I Feel Like If You Wage Peace While Someone Is Waging War At You, That's Winning In Life"
This week, Tricia and Steven dissect what it means to be at peace while everything is shifting and changing around you.  Is peace possible when you are also trying to pursue your dreams? They also discuss recent events as it seems God is accelerating things around each of their lives, and what it means to come to terms with God making things actually happen.
57 minutes | Jan 30, 2018
Episode 25 - "What Happens in This Pastoral Story of Church that Almost All Pastors Get Freaked Out if People Have Any Control?"
This week, Tricia and Steven dive into what kind of church will serve people well moving forward into 2018 - ones that are driving change, transformation, and connection.  They also talk about what kind of leadership is required in these types of churches and share stories of their own experiences leading and shepherding others.
60 minutes | Jan 23, 2018
Episode 24 - "The Definition of Righteousness Isn't Perfect Behavior, But That You Can Get Your Ass Whooped Sometimes and Get Up Off the Mat"
This week's episode, Tricia and Steven talk about how to deal with the not-so-great parts of ourselves. How do we come to a place of acceptance, where we can differentiate between ourselves and our actions? How do we see that which we formerly saw as sinful parts of ourselves as opportunities for growth? 
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