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98 minutes | a month ago
42.3: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Dean's Funeral to the Bridge Reunion
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine begin their discussion with Dean's funeral, and proceed through to the brothers' reunion at the bridge. Along the way, they discuss everything from the way Sam's life montage invokes S14's "Nightmare Logic" to Dean drinking El Sol beer in heaven as they continue to investigate the many allusions to something being "wrong" with the events of the finale. Their conclusion? Given all that they have uncovered, canon for them ends in E19.Links from discussion:Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanks
76 minutes | 2 months ago
42.2: Deconstructing "Carry On" - The Barn and Dean's Death Scene
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the barn set and its connection to Season 4's "Heaven and Hell" before approaching Dean's death scene and the dialogue between him and Sam. Pulling out key lines of dialogue, they discuss the implications of what each the brothers said. Links from discussion:The Barn Set & "Heaven and Hell": https://twitter.com/NorthernSprw/status/1346493443321831428?s=20Vampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-time
91 minutes | 2 months ago
42.1: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Recap to Vamp Fight
*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine break down the structure and content of "Carry On" in order to analyze why, exactly, the episode didn't work: how it deviates from the trajectory of S15, and how it conflicts with established canon. They also discuss the visual cues scattered throughout the episode that seem to indicate there may be an altered reality of some sort at play throughout the finale.Links from discussion:Corelli Pizza Info: https://naruhearts.tumblr.com/post/173616333026/thedogsled-prairiedust-spnjohnlocked Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanksVampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-time
40 minutes | 3 months ago
41: Announcing "Reclaiming Supernatural"
In this episode of The Fangirl Business, Chrisha and Catherine talk about their upcoming project, "Reclaiming Supernatural," a rewatch with a twist that will start back at season one. They also discuss their next steps, which includes a final deconstruction, analysis, and rejection of the series finale, "Carry On," using a literary lens.
71 minutes | 3 months ago
40: State of the Fandom - Post Finale Edition
*S15E20 SPOILERS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE*Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all-new State of the Fandom (SotF) episode, after a much needed haitus! In this podcast, they discuss this transitional period for the fandom and their own personal journeys post Supernatural's finale, and they hint at what's coming next for The Fandom Business! CONTENT WARNING: While it is not the focus, this episode does touch upon the series finale for Supernatural, and briefly mentions some of the triggers from it.
94 minutes | 5 months ago
39: "Carry On" - Pain, Trauma, and Processing
*S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW*In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative.Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business.CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of abuse, childlessness, ableism, misogyny, queer erasure, suicide, & suicidal ideation.IF YOU NEED SUPPORT:https://www.imalive.org/online/ (offers online chat)Text SHARE to the Crisis Text Line741741 in the USA686868 in Canada85258 in the UK50808 in IrelandIF YOU WANT TO DONATE:The Castiel Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/3037563Dean Winchester Is Love: https://donate.nami.org/fundraiser/3040106The Sam Winchester Project: https://www.togetherwerise.org/fundraise/samwinchesterThe Jack Kline Project: https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campaign/random-acts-10-year-anniversary/MeganCrockerIn honor of Eileen Leahy: https://www.nad.org/donate/The Eileen Leahy Fundraiser: https://www.mightycause.com/story/OfvepfThe Miracle Project: https://secure.aspca.org/team/the-miracle-projectGabriel’s Gift: https://fundraise.actionagainsthunger.org/fundraiser/gabrielsgiftThe Charlie Bradbury Project: https://www.classy.org/fundraiser/3042431Additional Links:Here’s a Buzzfeed article about the finale that Chrisha and Catherine both found helpful: https://www.buzzfeed.com/deirdre-t/supernaturalas-legacy-the-trauma-of-silence-1b17yhc5ye?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharetwitterTwo “fix-it” fics Chrisha and Catherine found helpful are:“Carry On” by Castielslostwings https://archiveofourown.org/works/27648386“Being and Having” by tricia_16 https://archiveofourown.org/works/27678379PS: Catherine here. I say at one point that the CW is generally progressive. We recorded this before I realized just how much hurt the CW has inflicted to other audiences this year, including Riverdale and The 100. I have been so saddened and upset to learn all of this.
112 minutes | 6 months ago
38.2: "Inherit the Earth," "Fanfiction," & Reciprocal Destiel Hopes
*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW*The time has come, wayward friends... our LAST podcast before we know it all! Join Chrisha and Catherine as they discuss all things Destiel in Inherit The Earth, including Cas' loud absence, Dean's self-actualization, and what they believe we may be exploring the exact nature of in Act 2!CONTENT WARNING: This episode delves into theories for Destiel and Cas' endgame, which are HOPEFUL and STILL STAND! We know how hard hope can be, and we know how hard saying goodbye to our show is. Please listen only if and when you feel up to it. We'll be here when you're ready!Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
90 minutes | 6 months ago
38.1: "Inherit the Earth" - From "WTAF?" to "GENIUS!"
*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine's initial reaction to "Inherit the Earth" was very much "WTAF?" However, after some discussion, and some delving into the details, their ultimate take is: "GENIUS!" Come along for the ride as they discuss the penultimate episode and all that's going on just underneath its surface.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
135 minutes | 6 months ago
37.2: "Despair," Destiel, & Dessert - Feelings, Analysis, Hope ... and Pie!
*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*At last... pie! Come join Chrisha and Catherine in their most joyous podcast episode to date, as they squee and sob their way through Destiel going CANON! Beyond the squee, they process their feelings about the ship and what it means for them and for queer representation. And because they can't help themselves, they delve into possible theories for the last two episodes, including the excitement and fear of having hope.CONTENT WARNING: This episode delves into theories for Destiel and Cas' endgame, which are HOPEFUL and STILL STAND! We know how hard hope can be, and we know how hard saying goodbye to our show is. Please listen only if and when you feel up to it. We'll be here when you're ready!Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
71 minutes | 6 months ago
37.1: "Despair" - Context, Guest Stars, TFW2.0, and....Kale!
*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*In this episode of highly delicious and nutritious kale-like content, Chrisha and Catherine start their discussion of Despair, including real world context, guest stars, Dean's dramatic change after the departure of Chuck, Dad!Sam, the parallels between Sam and Jack, Sam's leadership, and Jack's maturity. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
49 minutes | 6 months ago
36.2: "Unity," Humans, Seraphs, and Free Will (and our very last subtext episode!)
*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW*In this episode (the last one before the subtext became the text!), Chrisha and Catherine discuss the parallels between Adam and Seraphina and Dean and Cas and consider the implications of Chuck's revelations about Amara and Castiel from a shipping perspective.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
102 minutes | 6 months ago
36.1: "Unity," Dean's Rage, Sam's Vulnerability, and Cas' Free Will
*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW*In another supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine begin the work of analyzing "Unity." In an excellently crafted episode that generated a lot of big feelings, they hone in on Dean's rage, Sam's vulnerability, and Cas' free will. Additionally, they discuss the nuanced way in which Amara was portrayed in this episode: building toward a redemption arc, which was interrupted by Chuck's abuse and manipulation. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
34 minutes | 6 months ago
34.2: "Drag Me Away (From You)", Musical Subtext, and Dean's Sexuality
*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW*In this mini shipping episode about "Drag Me Away (From You)", Chrisha and Catherine delve into music choices, prayer in Supernatural, the mirroring of Dean and Travis, and Dean's continued lack of sexual interest in female characters this season.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music credits: The Ink Spots, "If I Didn't Care"
19 minutes | 6 months ago
35: "Despair" and DESTIELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine could not contain their excitement about DESTIEL GOING FREAKING CANON in "Despair" and literally started recording this within 15 minutes of the episode ending on the East Coast. Come listen to them screech, sob, and celebrate Castiel telling Dean that HE LOVES HIM, and share their love for the endurance of a ship that refused to quit. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
94 minutes | 6 months ago
34.1 "Drag Me Away (From You)", Childhood Trauma, & Characterization Choices
*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW*It's another supersized podcast from Chrisha and Catherine! In it, they discuss the hits and misses of "Drag Me Away (From You)", including the troubling depiction of therapy, characterization choices, and the way that the episode depicted early childhood trauma and its impact on Dean's current behavior. They also cheer for Sam. Like, a lot. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
55 minutes | 6 months ago
33.2: "Gimme Shelter", Shipping, and End Game Musings
*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter"'s shipping elements, focusing in on Dean and Cas' parenting, that photo Cas used to summon the crossroads demon, and the problematic nature of Amara and Dean's past "relationship." They go on to muse about the series finale and what the effects may be for viewers past and present should the ship go/not go canon in a big way.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music credits: Taylor Swift, "I Did Something Bad"; "End Game"
96 minutes | 6 months ago
33.1: The Dark Side of Humanity & Gifts from Deities in "Gimme Shelter"
*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW*In this supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter," which was split between a lot of cuteness and a lot of heavy content. They squee over Cas' return and all the adorable moments in which Jack emulates his dads, but then turn to more serious topics: the way in which the episode explores the dark side of humanity, the price of "gifts" from deities, and Jack's secret. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
80 minutes | 6 months ago
32: Theories - The Mystery of the Garden; Free Will; the Beginning and the End
*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*In this episode (recorded just before the end of hiatus), Chrisha and Catherine look back at elements that have been laid down in previous seasons as they theorize about what may come in the final few episodes of Supernatural. With the relevance of the Garden fresh on their minds from "Destiny's Child," they start their discussion back in Season 9 with Gadreel, the Garden's failed guardian, and examine the mystery of what exactly happened in the world's first Paradise. They end by comparing discussing the parallels between the book of Revelation and Cas' prediction of a new Paradise, brought about by Jack. In between, they discuss heroes and villains, the role of Lucifer, parallels, and an ending tied to healing from trauma. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW
87 minutes | 7 months ago
31: Cuteness, Torture, and Parenting in "Last Holiday"
*S15E14 SPOILERS BELOW*They've survived their very last (and longest!) Hellatus, and Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all new, super-sized podcast about "Last Holiday!" They have an honest conversation about missing Cas, squee about all the cuteness from this episode, discuss the problematic ways in which torture and its repercussions were addressed and overlooked, and discuss the healing that is underway in the parent-child relationship between Dean and Jack.Special guest appearance: Gabriel the cat, adding purring to the ambienceSupernatural audio clip credits: The CW
69 minutes | 7 months ago
30: "Galaxy Brain" and "Destiny's Child" ... Shipping Edition
*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*Join Chrisha and Catherine for a 2-for-1 shipping special, as they delve into the Destiel subtext of both Galaxy Brain AND Destiny's Child! From porn jokes to clinking glasses to toddler co-parenting to intricate religious symbolism, our show (and this podcast!) has it all! “Galaxy Brain” and “Destiny’s Child” audio clip credits: The CW
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