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The Clemson Dubcast
70 minutes | Sep 22, 2022
Ben Boulware is a business owner. He's married. He's usually asleep by 8 PM. Boulware said even he's surprised that he's all grown up now. He's come a long way from his playing days as a bombastic, freewheeling force of nature for Clemson's football team. "I'm 28," he said. "But I feel like I'm 58." Boulware, co-owner of The Junkyard fitness centers, said it's been an adventure opening a location in downtown Clemson. Boulware is now the voice and face of Clemson's pre-game entrance to Death Valley, as a video booms his commands to the players and fans to give everything they have to sustain the Tigers' reputation for greatness. Boulware remains close with Brent Venables, the most important figure in his playing career. He shares a story from 2014, his sophomore year, when he was upset that the wasn't starting over Tony Steward and he told Venables he was quitting the team. Venables laughed and told him he wasn't going anywhere. Boulware started the next game, and by the end of the year he was contributing a pick-6 in the Tigers' bowl destruction of Oklahoma. Two years later, Boulware was giving a speech at Death Valley as the fans and team celebrated the Tigers' 2016 national championship.
74 minutes | Sep 16, 2022
In addition to his full-time job as a data analyst at Northrup Grumman in Baltimore, Justin Falcinelli is spending considerable time working to affect change as a member of the College Football Players Association. As a member of Clemson's football team from 2015 to 2018, and the starting center on the team that smacked Alabama 44-16 for the national title, Falcinelli has a deep understanding of how big and profitable college football has become. He also believes athletes should have a bigger share of the revenues that are currently being spent on skyrocketing salaries for coaches. The thrust of Falcinelli's efforts is to secure long-term health care for college athletes. In his mind, that's the least that big-time athletics can do for players who often face lifelong health issues after playing a violent game. Falcinelli also looks back to the amazing run he was able to be a part of, when Clemson rose from pretty good to perennially great. In the 2018 CFP semifinal against Notre Dame, Falcinelli suffered what ended up being a serious ankle injury. He pushed through as the Tigers' offensive line protected Trevor Lawrence and allowed for the Tigers to slice apart the Crimson Tide's defense. Falcinelli graduated from Clemson with a degree in management and then earned his MBA.
69 minutes | Sep 9, 2022
Longtime Upstate radio host Mickey Plyler rejoins the podcast to talk about the quarterback situation at Clemson. With DJ Uiagalelei having shown clear progress and Cade Klubnik having brought a spark in his limited duty, what's the right play right now for Clemson's coaching staff? What are the pros and cons of giving Klubnik more prominent action to see what he can do? And how might this play out long-term this season? Plyler has heard plenty on this from listeners to his WCCP show. He gives his take on a crucial juncture in Dabo Swinney's brilliant coaching tenure.
74 minutes | Sep 2, 2022
Dustin Fry is in no hurry to get back into college football coaching. He spends most of his time with his wife and two young boys in the hills of North Carolina. He helps out coaching offensive and defensive line at the local high school near Tryon. He is savoring life, and that's hard to do these days in the coaching profession. Fry was on the support staff at Clemson under Chad Morris, and then he got his big break when Morris landed the SMU job and asked Fry to come with him to Dallas. After three years it was off to Arkansas, where the staff jumped into the deep end of the SEC and thought they'd have time to build something. As it turned out they didn't last two years. Morris was fired after a 2-8 start in his second season. Fry, who's from Summerville and played offensive line at Clemson, became disillusioned with the soul-sucking, non-stop routine of recruiting and preparing for games. "It's become so intense in the profession that even when you win a game you only get to enjoy it for a few hours before you're breaking down film and getting started on the next game," he said. Fry said he was texting just this week with South Carolina assistant Justin Stepp, who he was with under Morris at SMU and Arkansas. "He asked me: 'Do you miss any of this shit?'" Fry said. "There's times I do. I'm not going to sit here and say college football is over for me. But I really enjoy the time I spend with my boys, picking the oldest up from school and being around him for a few hours every day. Just to have a real life -- I've made some good friends up here and it has nothing to do with football. "I've joined the golf club up here and met some great people. It's just awesome because I've never gotten to do anything like that. I've never gotten to be around non-coaching, non-football situations. It has been nice to step back from it for the last few years."
73 minutes | Aug 30, 2022
Matt Bockhorst joins the podcast to talk life after football, and working just a short walk of the beach at Isle of Palms. Bockhorst also helps dig into the current developments along Clemson's offensive line, which has received a big boost by freshman Blake Miller showing he's worthy of being a starter at right tackle. Bockhorst revisits the experiment of moving from guard to center a year ago, and recalls when he knew Clemson's offensive line was in trouble against Georgia and Jordan Davis. Bockhorst spent this past spring around the program and gives his take on the new offensive direction under Brandon Streeter. Will freshman Cade Klubnik quickly take over for a faltering DJ Uiagalelei, or will DJ reprise the excellent playmaker everyone saw when he started against Notre Dame and Boston College in 2020? Bockhorst gives his perspective on the quarterback battle that everyone is talking about and thinking about.
79 minutes | Aug 19, 2022
Gary Stokan and Kelly Quinlan
Gary Stokan has been one of the major movers and shakers in college football over the past two-plus decades. As the CEO and president of the Peach Bowl, Stokan has been instrumental in making Atlanta a prominent player in college football. When he was in his 20s, Stokan worked for shoe companies and helped seal sponsorship deals with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. He still kicks himself for letting Michael Jordan get away to a struggling company called Nike. The sneaker business was forever changed when MJ and Nike joined forces. Stokan gives some insight into why Clemson's opener against Georgia Tech will have a capacity of just 45,000 at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. He also shares what it's been like to develop a friendship with Dabo Swinney over the years as Swinney built Clemson from a perennial underachiever, to a really good program, to an elite one. Kelly Quinlan, longtime chronicler of Georgia Tech football, provides a pulse on the Geoff Collins regime and looks back at the mistakes Collins made starting out. The Yellow Jackets have won a total of nine games the past three seasons, and a rigorous 2022 schedule has enhanced the likelihood that this will be Collins' final season on The Flats. Quinlan was close with Paul Johnson during the coach's long tenure at Georgia Tech, and he still communicates with him regularly. Asked if Johnson might be taking some satisfaction in the struggles that followed his departure, Quinlan responded: "I'm sure he's sitting there with a glass of bourbon and puffing on a cigar and getting a chuckle out of this."
79 minutes | Aug 13, 2022
Where Are They Now, Part 2
In a continuation of summer conversations with 30 prominent former players, we catch up with the following: Matt Bockhorst Jim Stuckey Willy Korn Landon Walker Dustin Fry Levon Kirkland Robert Carswell Woody Dantzler Each player is asked the same three basic questions: 1) What are you up to now? 2) What are your thoughts on the state of Clemson's football program? 3) What are your thoughts on the state of college athletics, which is facing major change with the advent of NIL and freer ability to transfer to different schools? These interviews were conducted for The Clemson 30 series of articles that were published at Tigerillustrated.com.
91 minutes | Aug 3, 2022
When Tavaghn Monts decided to return to Clemson in 2019 to complete his degree, he discovered he had a 1.63 grade-point average. This was the fallout he wasn't aware of from 2006, when he left school to try out with the Cleveland Browns. He neglected to drop the courses, and that left him with all F's at the end of the semester. After making the President's List during the 2019 fall semester while commuting to Clemson from Atlanta multiple times a week, he made the Dean's List in the spring of 2020 and then the President's List again in the summer of 2020. In August of 2020, he received his degree in PRTM. And now he works for Clemson as the executive director of Momentum Bike Clubs, a group-mentoring initiative for middle- and high-school students in Greenville and Pickens counties with a mission to transform the lives of young people. Monts, who played defensive back at Clemson in 2001, 2003 and 2004, joins The Dubcast to reflect on his remarkable journey that includes walking five miles to work as a Waffle House manager in Atlanta.
90 minutes | Jul 28, 2022
Thomas Austin, Mike Reed, Mickey Conn
The raw audio from three assistant coaches' recent visits with the media in advance of the 2022 football season. Thomas Austin is in his first year as Clemson's offensive line coach, replacing longtime coach Robbie Caldwell. He gives insight into the pecking order at right guard after veteran Will Putnam moved to center and solidified that position. Mike Reed, entering his tenth year at Clemson, gives progress reports on Jeadyn Lukus, Nate Wiggins and others in a group that lost Andrew Booth and Mario Goodrich from last year's team. Mickey Conn, elevated to co-defensive coordinator after the departure of Brent Venables, raves about the speed and versatility of not just this safeties group but the defense across the board. Clemson begins preseason camp Aug. 5.
60 minutes | Jul 22, 2022
Wes Goodwin, Lemanski Hall
Clemson's first-year defensive coordinator reflects on his building anticipation of filling the expansive shoes of Brent Venables. "A lot of excitement, waking up at 4 AM and just a lot of things are running through your mind," Wes Goodwin said. To outsiders, Goodwin was an obscure name on Clemson's staff until Dabo Swinney made the unconventional move to promote him in the wake of Venables' departure for Oklahoma. Lemanski Hall welcomes back a load of talent to his defensive end room, but he knows it's likely that he'll lose four guys after this season. Included is Myles Murphy, who will have an opportunity to turn pro early if he has the monster season that's being forecast by Hall and others. The Tigers begin preseason camp on Aug. 5.
92 minutes | Jul 20, 2022
C.J. Spiller, Brandon Streeter, Nick Eason
The raw, uncut audio from the three assistant coaches' visits with the media earlier this week. Spiller is entering his second year as Clemson's running backs coach and acknowledges that last year brought a steep learning curve for him as he tries to adjust to new terminology and coaching running backs he didn't recruit. Streeter, promoted to offensive coordinator after the departure of Tony Elliott to Virginia, discusses the offseason progress of DJ Uiagalelei. Eason, a Clemson alum, has brightened every room he's been in since joining Dabo Swinney's staff to replace Todd Bates. That includes this week, when he started off his media session by saying this: "Wait a second and let me sit down and fix my shirt so my man boobs look a little better." Dabo Swinney is preparing for his 14th full season as Clemson's head coach. The Tigers begin preseason camp Aug. 5.
70 minutes | Jul 8, 2022
Bryson Carter has attended 205 straight Clemson football games. That includes the 2020 season when he traveled to Notre Dame, Wake Forest and Virginia Tech and sat outside the football stadiums listening to those games via radio. At the age of 15, Carter was diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa. The rare genetic disorder brings a breakdown and loss of cells in the retina. Carter lost all his vision when he was a student at Clemson and he stopped attending school. In 2007, he began a streak of following the Tigers that he plans to extend to 206 games when the Tigers play at Georgia Tech to open the 2022 season. He has followed Clemson via planes, trains, buses and automobiles. He took a bus to Phoenix in the 2016 season when the Tigers faced Ohio State in the playoff semifinal. He has developed many lasting relationships during these travels with people who noticed him and offered to help him. He has spoken to Clemson's football team at the request of Dabo Swinney. He has spoken to Clemson's Tiger Band at the request of band director Mark Spede. At every home game, people on The Hill part when they see him making his way to his spot next to the band. For Bryson, the Tiger Band and PA announcer Dale Gilbert paint the picture of what he cannot see unfolding on the field. He lives in Anderson with his girlfriend Tara, who works at Clemson.
57 minutes | Jul 1, 2022
Where are they now, Part 1
We catch up with some prominent names of Clemson's football past to update on what they're up to, their thoughts on the state of the Tigers' program under Dabo Swinney, and their opinion on a college athletics landscape that has been transformed by NIL and the transfer portal. In Part 1, we share our conversations with Jeff Francouer, Dalton Freeman, Tye Hill, Willie Simmons, Airese Currie and Billy Davis. The interviews were conducted during the spring for The Clemson 30 series at Tigerillustrated.com.
88 minutes | Jun 24, 2022
After spending six seasons at Clemson and making a name for himself as a key figure in the player-empowerment movement, Darien Rencher now looks ahead to what's next. He's not yet giving up his dream of playing professionally, but he has an eye toward the future and he has a number of opportunities from the connections he's made already through his energetic networking. In the run-up to Pro Day, he spent a bunch of money living in Miami and training among some of the draft's premier prospects. He said the NIL money he earned while at Clemson funded that endeavor, and he has no regrets because the relationships he built will be fruitful long into the future. Rencher looks back at the summer of 2020 two years ago and the lessons learned as he took the lead amid racial unrest and then amid calls to cancel the season because of the COVID threat. In December of 2020 he was named the recipient of the Disney Spirit Award, presented annually to college football's most inspirational player, coach, team or figure. Rencher loves Dabo Swinney and thinks he's often misunderstood by hot-take artists from afar, but he's not in total lockstep with his former head coach on matters of NIL and the transfer portal. He has complex, nuanced opinions on the state of college athletics and where it's all headed. "It's like we're trying to put a plane together while we're flying it," he said. Rencher said he hopes to land in the media world as a TV football analyst.
95 minutes | Jun 17, 2022
Ray Ray McElrathbey
The "happily ever after" theme does not apply to Ray Ray McElrathbey in the two years after his story was chronicled in the Disney movie Safety. McElrathbey became immersed in stock-market investing and is now trying to recoup losses amid the significant economic downturn of 2022. He started his own shipping company but has been hit hard figuratively by the rising fuel prices, and literally last month when a truck he was driving careened off a back road in New Mexico and down a ravine. He was hospitalized, the truck was totaled, and he later rented a car and drove home to Atlanta. He considers himself lucky to be alive. McElrathbey, who took custody of his younger brother Fahmarr while at Clemson in 2006, is deeply conflicted about what was gained from the movie and what was lost. He said he was so eager to have his story chronicled by Disney that he quickly signed up without much consideration of compensation, and he regrets that his little brother doesn't have more to show for it. "Fahmarr trusted me to handle everything, and I didn't do it in the best way possible. I should have gotten us a better deal." While the movie's chronicling of Ray Ray and Fahmarr brought feel-good vibes, the depictions of his mother and father were much different. His mother had to deal with being defined as a junkie. She continues to battle drug addiction, Ray Ray says. "The movie ended with a picture of me, Fahmarr and my mother, and we were happy. But that was after the credits, and most people don't sit through the credits," Ray Ray says. "She's more than just an addict. Not that I blame Disney for that; it's just that I was so giddy and excited about doing a movie that I didn't think about any ramifications about what it was like for my mom to be portrayed like that. I thought it was just all good no matter how it went down." His father, who died of heart failure at age 54 two years before the movie aired, was cast as a deadbeat dead from the beginning in 2006 when Oprah Winfrey and other national voices descended on Clemson to chronicle the story. Ray Ray was largely responsible for those portrayals, and he now punishes himself for not having more perspective and wisdom about a father who was much more loving and redeeming than he believed years ago. The recent accident in New Mexico brought a revelation in Ray Ray: His real calling might be spending the rest of his life sharing his story, and doing more to help children in need. Probably the foremost lesson Ray Ray is now experiencing in his mid-30s: Severe childhood trauma takes decades to sort out and resolve. And resolution most certainly isn't achieved with a Disney movie.
74 minutes | Jun 9, 2022
Former Clemson quarterback Patrick Sapp joins the podcast to talk what it's like to be sending his son Josh to Clemson to play tight end for the Tigers. Patrick shares what he learned of Cade Klubnik during the recruiting process, which provided a window into the personalities of Klubnik and the rest of the 2022 class. Sapp gives his thoughts on the wild times in college athletics with NIL and the transfer portal bringing controversy and questions about whether it'll ever look remotely the same again. Sapp spent years soliciting major gifts for Clemson, so he has keen insight into the current challenge of IPTAY trying to deal with the presence of TigerImpact and other independent NIL collectives that are also asking donors for money.
89 minutes | May 27, 2022
Several years ago, Chad Carson and his family moved to Ecuador without making any plans beyond a three-day Airbnb rental. They ended up living there for 17 months. Now they are preparing for a move to Spain for a year. Carson played football at Clemson from 1998 to 2001 but has carved out life and leadership that is totally separate from the sport that defined him in college and high school. Carson's success in the real-estate business has allowed him, his wife and two children the flexibility to explore the world. It's also granted him the time to pursue his passion of making Clemson's transportation infrastructure inclusive of more than just automobiles. Carson joins the podcast to talk about his life in football and after football, and he offers his reflections on the rapid changes in college athletics. "I'm not saying that getting a scholarship and an education is not valuable -- it really is. But I think college football has always been a pro sport. We were treated like pro athletes all along. It's a business, and you get pushed hard by coaches who are saying 'sink or swim' because their jobs are on the line, and they're facing the pressure of getting paid millions of dollars. It's a pro sport that happens to be on a college campus. In my mind there has always, always been a disjunction there -- coaches making millions of bucks, players making nothing. It didn't sit right with me, particularly knowing that a few of those really big-time players were generating a lot of that revenue. It never seemed equitable to me."
91 minutes | May 23, 2022
After spending 17 years turning Clemson's major-gifts operation from basically nothing into a national force, Bobby Couch decided to leave IPTAY and preside over the Tigers' NIL collective. As the executive director of TigerImpact, Couch reflects on what went into his move to this new endeavor and how he is wrapping his arms around the fast-moving world of NIL. Couch says what makes this initiative special is its emphasis on charity; recently Will Shipley took the $10,000 check he received from NIL and immediately donated it to a Charlotte-area hospital. Couch also reminisces about developing a close relationship with Dabo Swinney through weekday pickup basketball games on campus otherwise known as the NTBA (Noontime Basketball Association). Couch spent years as the NTBA's commissioner, organizing the daily games that involved many prominent names who are now head coaches elsewhere. Couch remembers Brent Venables crashing into him and leaving him with a black eye that he had to explain a couple days later when he spoke in front of a group of boosters before a Clemson football game.
81 minutes | May 5, 2022
Jack Leggett still hasn't gotten over the events that led to his firing in 2015 after 22 seasons at Clemson. He also can't reconcile Clemson's lack of recognition for the long run of success achieved under his watch. "It's like they've tried to erase what we did there," he said. It's been almost seven years, but the wounds are still fresh for the 68-year-old Leggett as he recalls the final year of his tenure that ended abruptly when then-AD Dan Radakovich told him it was over. Leggett said he received 600 text messages from all over after the parting, including from every head coach in the ACC and prominent baseball people all across the state of South Carolina. One figurehead who didn't reach out was Ray Tanner. Leggett suggests Radakovich consulted with his AD counterpart at South Carolina before making the move to fire Leggett and hire current coach Monte Lee. Leggett, who lives in Greenville, spends an hour-plus with the The Dubcast to share what he's up to now. It includes watching a lot of college baseball, including the program he used to coach.
71 minutes | Apr 1, 2022
Richard Gooch has served the Clemson community for more than two decades as a member of the city police department. In January he suffered a heart attack, his second in 12 years, and almost lost his life. A week later, he lost his father to suicide. Gooch joins the podcast to spread awareness about taking care of yourself, and about trying to spot the signs of severe depression in loved ones. "I hope it helps someone," he said. "I messed up the first 47 years of my life, and now I have to earn the rest of it. I hope this can help someone, touch someone, and change somebody's life for the better." Gooch lives in Clemson with his wife and 10-year-old daughter. He is the lieutenant of investigations and support services for the City of Clemson Police Department.
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