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Come along on a roadtrip to the Isle of Man with Jenny and Kloe! We take the ferry across the water, stay in an eco-friendly yurt village, and tour the island’s heritage sites: we go behind the scenes with the Manx National Heritage conservators and enjoy the local sites. Special thanks to Chris Weeks and Emma Le Cornu for inviting us over! (Varied audio quality ahead, folks.) 00:00:55 Exploring the ferry and eating waffles on deck 00:02:13 Arriving in the eco village 00:04:50 Breakfast time! 00:05:31 Manx Museum 00:14:52 They found us! 00:23:30 Climate change 00:24:57 Sites to see on the island 00:29:24 Back in the conservation studio 00:48:26 Meeting Peggy 01:00:15 Snooping around the museum store 01:05:35 Exploring the archival side 01:14:00 Jenny spots a mysterious box 01:17:25 Peeking in the textiles store 01:18:57 Castletown in the rain 01:21:15 Cregneash village 01:25:00 Day out in Peel with Emma 01:29:27 Summing up our Saturday by the fire 01:30:35 Checking out 01:32:13 Laxey, big wheels and going under ground 01:39:47 Grove Museum of Victorian Life 01:50:38 Afternoon tea in Bride and a failed beach visit 01:53:39 Milntown Estate and Gardens 02:02:13 Back to the ferry Show Notes: - The ferry: https://www.steam-packet.com/ourvessels/ben-my-chree - Where Jenny and Kloe stayed: https://www.sabasglenyurt.com/ - Manx Museum: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/manx-museum/ - Conservation of the giant deer skeleton: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/conservation-of-the-giant-deer-skeleton/ - Illiam Dhone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiam_Dhone - Manx cat breed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_cat - Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/ - Culture Vannin: https://culturevannin.im/ - Learn Manx Gaelic: https://www.learnmanx.com/ - Isle of Man TT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT - Conservation of the Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/news-2-2 - Wild wallabies: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-10-13/the-mystery-of-the-wild-wallabies-living-on-the-isle-of-man - IMuseum: https://www.imuseum.im/ - Vida La Fierce: https://bearworldmag.com/anthony-meets-miss-vida-la-fierce/ - Zenzie Tinker Conservation: https://www.zenzietinker.co.uk/ - Archibald Knox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Knox_(designer) - Peggy on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_of_Castletown - Peggy on Manx Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/news-2/ - Peggy’s paint analysis: https://www.lincolnconservation.co.uk/projects/the-18th-century-sailing-yacht-peggy/ - Inergen fire suppression system: https://www.firesuppression.co.uk/inergen.aspx - Thermoskyships: https://www.airshipsonline.com/sheds/Jurby.htm - Cregneash: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/cregneash/ - Peel castle: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/peel-castle/ - Viking longboat races: https://www.visitiom.co.uk/events/world-championships/world-championship-viking-longboat-races/ - House of Manannan: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/house-of-manannan/ - Davison’s ice cream: https://davisons.co.im/ - Trams: https://manxelectricrailway.co.uk/current-timetable/ - Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/laxey-wheel/ - Grove Museum of Victorian Life: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/grove-museum-of-victorian-life/ - Bride Tea Rooms and Bistro: https://bridetearooms.weebly.com/ - Point of Are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_Ayre - Milntown: https://www.milntown.org/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We’re joined by Tom Hopkins and Louise McAward-White from Fair Museum Jobs as we grab the imaginary tin opener and get into one of our favourite cans of worms: zero hour contracts! We unpick what they are, how they’re used in the heritage sector, why they’re problematic, and how we can do better. 00:01:33 What is exactly is a zero hours contract? 00:11:00 Examples of when they’re used 00:16:27 Which precarity is easier to manage? 00:18:48 The toll of constant job hopping on people 00:26:11 Conservation examples of ‘casual’ contracts 00:37:31 The advert that sparked this whole episode 00:50:25 Join your union! 00:55:47 How we can influence things for the better 00:57:21 Feedback from Icon and what professional bodies can do 01:06:03 Kloe’s fury 00:00:00 Patreon shout-out Show Notes: - Fair Museum Jobs: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/ - Go follow Fair Museum Jobs on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fair_jobs - UK government guidance on zero hours contracts: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers and https://www.gov.uk/contract-types-and-employer-responsibilities/zero-hour-contracts - Real Living Wage: https://www.livingwage.org.uk/what-real-living-wage - Original V&A advert: https://app.vacancy-filler.co.uk/salescrm/Careers/CareersPage.aspx?e=LMo8nnTwYNYfjktgP-fk0v6HGHzjT7BnKoEpbcWUTJ9HNxQKjRUu0bwwoQNJy93jy5HLY4Ds_WQ&iframe=false&HideCareersLink=true - PDF copy of V&A advert: https://thecword.show/podcast/ConservationZeroHourWorkerPoolAdvert.pdf - Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/resources/ - Icon strategy: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/icon-strategy.html - Icon Salaries Survey 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/conservation-salaries-survey-2022.html Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Tom Hopkins and Louise McAward-White. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Join us for our triennial Icon conference special: an all online experience this time! Jenny tries to get into the spirit with croissants and rubbish coffee while Kloe is enjoying being able to multitask and dyeing fabrics while listening in. Also tune in for some impressions from the recent AIC conference. 04:32 Reaching out for recognition as a theme 08:50 Conference prices in the sector 10:17 Kloe is confused by tech 12:46 Catching up at the end of day one 17:12 Gearing up for day two 21:54 The unexpected blessing of being alone 22:31 Barely having time to eat lunch – a conference classic! 24:21 Round-up at end of day two 29:57 Feedback systems and our niggles 36:18 AIC conference interviews 45:56 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Icon triennial conference programme 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/about-us/our-work/icon-conferences/icon-conference-2022-reaching-out-for-recognition.html - S05E08 #Icon19 Conference Special: https://thecword.show/2019/06/26/s05e08-icon19-conference-special/ - Example of people who caption events: https://www.stagetext.org/ - APOYOnline network: https://apoyonline.org/en_US/ - Twitter conference hashtag search: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IconReachOut22&src=typed_query - AIC at 50 conference: https://www.culturalheritage.org/events/annual-meeting/current-meeting Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest host Bill Hawkes we continue the topic of shiny things: metals! This time dealing with small objects and shiny trinkets. Kloe talks to Dr Eric Nordgren about archaeological metals, and Jenny reviews ‘Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe’ as well. 00:01:27 From jewellery shops to the conservation workbench 00:05:20 Towards a sustainable alternative to silver dips 00:10:08 Values around tarnished surfaces 00:17:59 Advancements in modern metallurgy 00:22:03 The tricky nature of surfaces 00:27:08 The beauty of corrosion 00:30:11 From boring to fascinating to dangerous metals 00:36:28 Gemstones galore 00:40:22 Repair methods 00:44:55 Quills, thorns, feathers, and the common cocktail stick! 00:47:05 Interview with Dr Eric Nordgren 01:02:17 Review: Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe Show Notes: - S10E06 Metals (Part 1): https://thecword.show/2021/11/24/s10e06-metals-part-1/ - Bill’s website: https://www.williamhawkes.co.uk/ - West Dean College’s metalwork conservation specialism: https://www.westdean.org.uk/study/specialisms/metalwork - S10E03 Career Changes: https://thecword.show/2021/10/13/s10e03-career-changes/ - How silver dips work: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/care-silver.html - Argentium silver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentium_sterling_silver - Rhodium plating: https://www.jewelryshoppingguide.com/everything-about-rhodium-plating/ - An example of the kind of toy restoration videos Jenny watches (warning, this is OTT!): https://www.youtube.com/c/baremetalHW/videos or https://www.youtube.com/c/RescueRestore - The Twitter thread mentioned: https://twitter.com/amaliasl/status/1523420586495516673 - Gemstone chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/29/what-causes-the-colour-of-gemstones/ - Thorn usage in conservation: http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/conservation-journal/using-thorns-to-conserve-the-hoard.html - Eric Nordgren: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/people/view/2599291-nordgren-eric - Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe: https://www.routledge.com/Histories-of-Conservation-and-Art-History-in-Modern-Europe/Dupre-Boulboulle/p/book/9780367650070 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and William Hawkes. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest hosts Claire Fry and Lorraine Finch we take a walk on the private practice side of conservation: what’s it like starting and running a business? Kloe has a zillion questions as Jenny airs her insecurities as a new business owner, while Claire and Lorraine share their entrepreneurial insights with us all. From networking to number crunching, we cover a lot of ground in this one! 00:01:50 How many conservators are self-employed? 00:07:04 The value of business support 00:14:24 Support structures: financial and emotional 00:18:36 You make the rules – and ALL the decisions 00:22:02 Insurance, cash flow, and pensions 00:28:12 Taxes and the joys of accountancy 00:32:48 Getting your name out there 00:40:05 Estimates don’t last forever 00:42:33 Value your work, expertise, and time 00:47:22 Working with others 00:54:31 What’s the best thing about running a business? 00:55:17 Quick addendum Show Notes: - Find Claire on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/clairefry1 - Spencer and Fry: https://www.spencerandfry.co.uk/ - Lorraine Finch: https://lfcp.co.uk/ and https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lorraine-finch-8ba97540 - Jenny’s business: https://kuriosa.co.uk/ - Find support in your local area: https://www.gov.uk/business-support-helpline - Business & IP Centre: https://www.bl.uk/business-and-ip-centre - Natwest Women in Business Support: https://www.natwest.com/business/business-services/women-in-business.html - S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/ - Jenny’s insurance broker: https://www.artinsurance.co.uk/ - Nest pensions: https://www.nestpensions.org.uk/ - Aviva pension for the self-employed: https://www.aviva.co.uk/retirement/retirement-planning/self-employed-pension/ - Xero accounting software: https://www.xero.com/uk/ - The Conservation Register: https://www.conservationregister.com/ - Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/36a00-museumfreelancesurveyfindingsandinsight2020.pdf - Running a community interest company in conservation: https://natsca.blog/2021/12/16/starting-a-social-business-connect-conserve-cyswllt-cadwraeth-cymru/ - Lorraine’s book: https://lfcp.co.uk/publications/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Lorraine Finch, and Claire Fry. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We’re joined by special guest host and public engagement champion Clare Lawlor as we talk about learning in museums and at heritage sites. How do we talk to kids about difficult topics? What kind of learning spaces do we have access to? And what kind of magic happens when conservators and learning colleagues work together? Also tune in for a review of ‘The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture’ and an interview with Jessica England from GEM. 02:10 Definitions and the importance of young visitors 09:13 Jenny’s little museum shop anecdote 11:46 Making learning visible 13:51 Talking to kids about heavy topics 20:22 Working with conservation on new galleries 28:51 Learning spaces 40:22 Kloe and Jenny’s experiences of working with learning teams 47:47 Interview with Jessica England 51:29 Review: The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture Show Notes: - Follow Clare on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_Clare_Lawlor - Imperial War Museums: https://www.iwm.org.uk/ - Learning with IWM: https://www.iwm.org.uk/learning - S07E04 Working with Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/ - S09E01 Working with Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/ - S10E02 Working with Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/ - The new Holocaust galleries mentioned: https://www.iwm.org.uk/events/the-holocaust-galleries - S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/ - GEM: https://gem.org.uk/ - The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture – History, Theory, Practice: https://shop.getty.edu/products/the-conservation-of-medieval-polychrome-wood-sculpture-history-theory-practice-978-1606066553 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Clare Lawlor. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest hosts Dr David Leigh and Isobel Griffin we delve into the world of conservation standards: what are they, how do they come into being, and how are we using them? Kloe also talks to Jane Henderson about the importance of having many voices in the room and when people might start waving pitchforks around, and Jenny reviews ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation.’ 00:03:01 Standards in day-to-day life as well as conservation 00:07:47 The birth of a standard 00:15:04 Reviews and the implications 00:17:53 Standards in the pipeline 00:23:03 Diversity in decision making 00:29:18 How to access standards for FREE 00:33:59 Professional standards or codes of practice vs established standards 00:36:29 The bewildering array of information in the world 00:42:45 Come contribute! 00:43:02 Interview with Jane Henderson 00:58:45 Review: Greener Solvents in Conservation – An Introductory Guide 01:03:58 Patreon shout-out Show Notes: - B/560 Conservation of Tangible Cultural Heritage committee: https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/committees/50001857 - British Standards Institute: https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/ - European Standards: https://www.en-standard.eu/ - Swedish Institute for Standards: https://www.sis.se/en/ - Standards bodies definition and list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_organization - Helen Hughes on working on standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/helen-hughes-acr-working-on-site-during-coronavirus.html - Icon Documentation Network: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/documentation-network.html - Greatest hits book: https://www.beuth.de/en/publication/din-handbook-410/308401223 - Icon professional standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/icon-professional-standards.html - What conservation standards are: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/conservation-standards.html - ISO Standards: https://www.iso.org/standards.html - Spectrum collections management standard: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum/ - GIS standards: https://www.gistandards.eu/gis-standards/ - Royal Society of Chemistry Analytical Methods Committee: https://www.rsc.org/membership-and-community/connect-with-others/through-interests/divisions/analytical/amc/ - ASHRAE handbook for engineers: https://www.ashrae.org/technical-resources/ashrae-handbook - AIC Wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page - CCI Notes: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes.html - More on standards regarding built heritage: https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/standards/standards.htm - The Pitfalls and Possibilities of Standardisation (talk by Jane Henderson): https://markk-hamburg.de/from-conservation-to-conversation/workshop-contributions/ - James Acaster on the absurdity of the British Empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY - S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/ - Buy ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation’ from the publisher: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/greener-solvents-in-conservation/?id=380 - Download ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation’ for FREE: https://www.siconserve.org/greener-solvents/greener-solvents-hand-book/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, David Leigh, and Isobel Griffin. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

With the help of special guest host Lisa Mol we talk about the impact of war and conflict on heritage: from stone research and training initiatives and all the way to saving Ukrainian digital heritage en-masse. We’re also joined by Emma Cunliffe from Blue Shield, Sarah Stannage from IIC, and Richard Mulholland from Northumbria University as we discuss what’s being done already and try to figure out how we can all help. 00:01:31 Explosives meet geology 00:05:50 Training over intervention 00:10:58 Priorities in war and its aftermath 00:16:13 Interview with Emma Cunliffe at Blue Shield 00:27:13 When is damage itself heritage? 00:32:08 Saving Ukraine’s digital heritage 00:37:58 Looting 00:43:44 Interview with Sarah Stannage from IIC 00:50:13 Other funding, support and resources re: Ukraine 00:51:21 Addendum time! 00:53:05 Comfort-a-Conservator 00:55:59 Interview with Richard Mulholland 01:07:45 Go forth and do good Show Notes: - Heritage in the Crossfire: https://www.heritageinthecrossfire.com/ - Get in touch with Dr Lisa Mol: https://people.uwe.ac.uk/Person/LisaMol - S01E10 Salvage: https://thecword.show/2017/07/05/s01e10-salvage/ - Blue Shield International: https://theblueshield.org/ - Blue Shield UK: http://ukblueshield.org.uk/ - Emma’s blog entry about her new book: https://boydellandbrewer.com/blog/heraldry-and-genealogy/safeguarding-cultural-property-in-the-1954-hague-convention-all-possible-steps/ - ‘Safeguarding Cultural Property and the 1954 Hague Convention’ by Emma Cunliffe and Paul Fox: https://boydellandbrewer.com/9781783276660/safeguarding-cultural-property-and-the-1954-hague-convention/ - Examples of churches in Europe left in ruin after WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ruins_of_churches_destroyed_during_World_War_II - Frederik Rosén’s publication list (as mentioned by Lisa): https://www.heritageconflict.org/frederik - Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online (SUCHO): https://www.sucho.org/ - Iraq Museum Looting 15 Years On: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/04/10/iraq-museum-looting--15-years-on.html - IIC Opportunities Fund: https://www.iiconservation.org/about/awards/opportunities - IIC official Ukraine update page: https://www.iiconservation.org/content/how-ukraine-moving-protect-its-cultural-heritage-updated-22-march-2022 - Nordiska Museet fund for Ukrainian museums: https://www.nordiskamuseet.se/artiklar/ekonomisk-insamling-att-radda-ukrainas-kulturarv - Call for supplies for Ukrainian heritage protection: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/supplies-needed-to-protect-ukraine-s-cultural-heritage.html - Icon’s Support for Ukraine page: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/support-for-ukraine-conserving-cultural-heritage.html - Icon’s Ukraine event on March 24th 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/ukraine-supporting-cultural-heritage-and-conservation-colleagues.html - About Richard’s work: https://research.northumbria.ac.uk/VisualMaterialCultures/?page_id=534 - Richard’s paper in Studies in Conservation: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epub/10.1080/00393630.2022.2025706?needAccess=true Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Lisa Mol. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Let’s get into the festive spirit with our special co-host Anna Ploszajski as we explore festive facts, Christmas chemistry, and merry materials! We make some predictions for the year ahead, and of course there’s a collections themed holiday song to bob along to. Happy holidays! 00:02:43 Hideous treasures all around us 00:11:13 Christmas tree decorations – old and new! 00:22:31 Tinsel themed nightmares 00:26:42 Lights, candles, and twinkly stuff 00:34:25 Tableware for days 00:40:21 Cakes and puddings 00:42:34 Christmas crackers 00:49:10 Fake snow and leaky snowglobes 00:53:23 Last year’s predictions and ones for 2022 01:01:11 Rocking Around the Christmas Tree (Museum Version) Show Notes: - Find out more about Anna’s work: https://www.annaploszajski.com/ - The aroma of Christmas trees: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/12/19/christmastrees/ - Mr Bean vs the ornaments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91IK06uv5E - The evolution of tinsel: http://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent24/ - How silvering is achieved: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017/09/06/silver-mirror/ - S09E05 Dynamic Objects: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/ - S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/ - V&A blog about the history of crackers: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-christmas-cracker - Christmas cracker chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2013/12/24/christmas-cracker-chemistry/ - How wrapping paper is made: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Wrapping-Paper.html - Fake snow chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent7/ - Museum Freelance network closes: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2021/11/museum-freelance-network-to-close/ - Go buy Anna’s book: https://www.annaploszajski.com/book - Jenny reviewing Anna’s book in a previous episode: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/ *** Rocking Around the Christmas Tree: the Museum Version (lyrics by Jenny Mathiasson and Morgan Fox; vocals by Skye) Skulkin' around the gallery At the Christmas working do Watching for spills that you can see Or objects gone askew Walkin' around the Christmas tree Let pheromone pest traps swing Later we’ll sneak some extra tea And we’ll do some tidying You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear Voices going, where’s that dolly? Pop that object on this trolley Wrappin’ things up in acid free For a popular display Everyone chattin’ happily Raiding gift shop and cafe You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear Voices going, where’s that dolly? Pop that object on this trolley Walkin’ around our objects store Seein’ a thing not put away Finally hoovering the floor Roll on the holiday! *** Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Anna Ploszajski. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

C is for: Can We Get Rid…? Sometimes museums just can’t keep everything – so what happens then? Together with guest host Emma Duggan we explore both the practicalities and our feelings around objects leaving collections. Also tune in for an interview with Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson from Epping Forest District Museum about their museum’s rationalisation journey. 00:01:58 Our experiences with rationalisation of collections 00:07:17 Why might something leave a collection? 00:10:48 Taking in objects with limited life spans 00:15:17 Knowing what you’ve got 00:23:07 Resources and guidance 00:25:56 Where does conservation fit into this? 00:29:45 Scrutiny of the public and people’s opinions 00:34:38 Interview: Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson 01:01:00 Bite-sized is fine 01:06:28 The issue of institutional memory 01:09:30 We can’t collect like we used to 01:18:49 Language matters – what do we call this process? 01:20:35 Finding new homes for objects Show Notes: - S09E02 Extreme Storage: https://thecword.show/2021/04/07/s09e02-extreme-storage/ - An example of why selling your collection is a bad idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Sekhemka_statue - Museums Association Disposal Tool Kit: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/collections/disposal-toolkit/ - Collections Trust resource page on deaccessioning and disposal: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum-resources/deaccession-and-disposal/ - The sculpture Emma mentioned: https://wellcomecollection.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/perspectives-i-cant-help-the-way-i-feel/ - S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/ - Epping Forest District Museum: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/ - Press release for Rationalisation Project: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/exciting-new-project-for-museums-collection/ - Article from Museums Essex about the project: https://museums-essex.org/2021/06/16/relevance-rationalise-and-recycle-epping-forest-district-museum-project/ - S02E01 Danger, Danger: https://thecword.show/2017/08/23/s02e01-danger-danger/ - Find-an-Object: https://www.museumsassociation.org/find-an-object/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Emma Duggan. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with conservator Lucy Branch we iron out some of the issues around big chunks of metal: from bronze trying to injure people to the trouble with coatings! Also tune in for a Dear Jane about being your authentic self, and a review of ‘Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage’ from Jenny. 01:38 Wait, is bronze a possessed metal? 05:53 Health and safety – lead and iron 11:51 Dealing with outdoor objects 18:54 Let’s talk coatings and longevity! 23:44 Corrosion indoors 26:25 ‘Cleaning’ metals and authenticity 32:58 Corrosion in intriguing places 38:24 Getting metal back into shape 48:24 Dear Jane 54:21 Review: Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization Show Notes: - Check out Lucy’s work: https://antiquebronze.co.uk/ - Man With Arms Open: https://canarywharf.com/artwork/giles-penny-man-with-arms-open/ - Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization: https://shop.getty.edu/products/modern-metals-in-cultural-heritage-br-understanding-and-characterization-978-1606066058 and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Metals-Cultural-Heritage-Characterization/dp/1606066056 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Lucy Branch. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We talk about our creaking joints and aching muscles with special guest host Emma Le Cornu, who is both a conservator and a yoga instructor. Kloe talks about carpal tunnel woes, Jenny shares her pain management journey, and Emma gives us all some exercises to try out at work. Also tune in for a Dear Jane about careers derailed by the pandemic. Look after yourselves, folks! 01:38 In which ways are we broken? 12:59 Conservation as a physical job 16:27 The importance of movement 19:09 Colleagues’ reactions 21:16 Emma’s yoga journey 26:24 Managing and looking after others 33:45 Answers from Twitter 40:52 Some exercises to try out 55:51 Dear Jane Show Notes: - Follow Emma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emmallecornu/ - Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene - Carpal tunnel syndrome: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/carpal-tunnel-syndrome/ - Repetitive strain injury: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/repetitive-strain-injury-rsi/ - Sarah and Emma’s Twitter paper Get Up to Get Down from #IconTC in 2019: https://twitter.com/elecornu/status/1202203422407241728 - Just One Thing with Michael Mosley – Exercise Less, More Often: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000zljp - Example of workstation assessment commonly found in workplaces: https://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/dse/assessment.htm - Jenny’s rocking kneeling chair (approximately): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ergonomic-Kneeling-Wooden-Kneeler-Adjustable/dp/B08R6WWGKL/ - Twitter polls mentioned: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455152475674234889 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455476445841592322 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455902290376806407 - S03E04 Looking After Your Conservator: https://thecword.show/2018/05/02/s03e04-looking-after-your-conservator/ Emma’s top stretches to do at work 1. Wrists – praying stretch, self-massage – squeeze the toothpaste tube https://www.healthline.com/health/chronic-pain/wrist-and-hand-stretches 2. Neck – look up, down, side to side, ear to shoulder with opposite arm extended out to side3. Upper back – twist from waist hold onto back of your chair 4. Feet – roll out on tennis ball or broom handle, sitting, or standing for more pressure 5. Balance – stand on one leg, try it with your eyes closed 6. Body scan – notice what feels good as well as not so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfv4UDBk6w 7. Squats (start with sitting down on a chair then getting back up without using your hands for help) go for 10 reps – leg muscle strengthener, core strengthener – protects joints, knees, increases ankle mobility, leg muscles are key to good mobility and everyday movements, also helps to maintain good posture 8. Legs up the wall – takes pressure off feet and veins in legs, drains fluids, also acts as a leg stretch Other advice from Emma: - Carrying something heavy in each hand around the house/studio, called a farmers carry – good for grip strength and overall strength! - For those who enjoy running, joining a Parkrun - gamifies exercise, get milestone t-shirts, be part of a community, volunteering opportunities: https://www.parkrun.com/ - Hand eye body – coordination exercises: https://www.handeyebody.com/ - Walking barefoot, standing barefoot outside - Change up your routine – the brain likes novelty! - Breathing out slowly – calms the nervous system Emma recommends following: - Jenni Rawlings: https://www.instagram.com/jenni_rawlings/ - Lara Heiman LYT Yoga: https://www.instagram.com/lara.heimann/ - Hand Eye Body: https://www.instagram.com/handeyebody/ - FinolaPhysio: https://www.instagram.com/finolaphysio/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Emma Le Cornu. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Join us as we take a seat by an imaginary fireplace in a creepy old house and trade stories of hauntings, hazards, and house ghosts with special guest Aly Singh. We get interrupted by trick-or-treaters and feel unsettled by sudden changes in RH! Jenny also talks to historian Sheldon K. Goodman about Cemetery Club and to conservator Kathrine Graf about gravestones and churchyards. Also tune in for a creepy cocktail at the Benchwork Bar! 00:02:55 Jenny loves bats 00:04:16 Poetry intermission and touring ghosts 00:10:42 Getting to know your ghosts - and paranormal pets! 00:14:23 More ghost sightings at museums and historic properties 00:34:51 Things that genuinely scare conservators 00:38:16 Aly shares some spooky tour stories 00:42:58 Cemeteries and their charms 00:52:38 Interview with Sheldon K. Goodman 01:05:33 Interview with Kathrine Graf 01:16:55 Benchwork Bar: The Spider Bite 01:20:22 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - S08E04 Halloween special: https://thecword.show/2020/10/28/s08e04-halloween-special/ - Ingenium: https://ingeniumcanada.org/ - Haunted Walk of Ottawa: https://hauntedwalk.com/ottawa-tours/ - Aly Singh: https://www.alysingh.com/ - Historic England guidance on bats in buildings: https://historicengland.org.uk/advice/technical-advice/buildings/building-works-and-bats/ - S03E04 Churches: https://thecword.show/2018/04/18/s03e03-churches/ - Poem by True’s Yard Museum: https://twitter.com/Truesyardmuseum/status/1445721982784491520 - ABK does Every Haunted House Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwDqRXec4s - A list of haunted museums (mostly in America): https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/70356/10-supposedly-haunted-museums - Another list of haunted museums and historic houses (this time in the UK): https://www.artfund.org/whats-on/more-to-see-and-do/listicles/halloween-haunted-museums-houses - Ghost in the window at Hampton Court Palace: https://www.hrp.org.uk/hampton-court-palace/history-and-stories/historic-hauntings-at-hampton-court-palace/ - Top 10 Haunted Objects in Museums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pwS-E5rv4 - Great Bed of Ware: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware - 10 Things That Terrify Archivists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2S2J5kIb-M - Ghosts – Spooky Stories and Eerie Encounters from the National Trust: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781905400379/Ghosts-Spooky-Stories-Eerie-Encounters-1905400373/plp - ‘Life After Death’ article from the Museums Journal (paywall): https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/features/2021/07/life-after-death/ - Paris catacombs: https://www.catacombes.paris.fr/en - St. Agatha’s Catacombs in Malta: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g190326-d313276-Reviews-St_Agatha_s_Crypt_Catacombs_Museum-Rabat_Island_of_Malta.html - Sheldon K. Goodman: https://www.sheldonkgoodman.com/ - Cemetery Club: https://cemeteryclub.wordpress.com/ - Go follow Sheldon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sheldonkgoodman - Harold Mytum’s blog: https://hmytum.wordpress.com/historical-mortuary-archaeology/ - Discovering England’s Burial Spaces: http://www.debs.ac.uk/ - Connect with Kathrine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathrine-graf-4b310aa6/ - Go follow Amanda on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ConserveItAll Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Aly Singh. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with special guest host Erin Foster we discuss the careers people have had before finding conservation, why they might have switched, and why so many of us find out about conservation a little later in life. Also tune in for an apprenticeship update from Icon and a review of ‘Managing Change in Museums and Galleries’ from Jenny. 01:16 Why do people come to conservation later in life? 05:06 What did WE do (or intend to do) in a previous life 10:18 Stories from listeners 20:59 Career aptitude tests and advice at the right age 33:23 An update on apprenticeships 36:09 Sharing and demystifying 38:46 More listener stories 42:40 Review: Managing Change in Museums and Galleries Show Notes: - Follow Erin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/travelconserve - Ötzi the iceman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi - Jonathan Ashley-Smith’s interview about craft skills: https://thecword.show/2017/04/26/s01e05-emerging-professionals/ - More about conservation apprenticeships: https://www.icon.org.uk/training/conservation-apprenticeships.html - Operation Night Watch: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/whats-on/exhibitions/operation-night-watch - Managing Change in Museums and Galleries – A Practical Guide: https://www.routledge.com/Managing-Change-in-Museums-and-Galleries-A-Practical-Guide/Bienkowski-McGowan/p/book/9780367858506 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Erin Foster. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We’re joined by special guest host Helen Antrobus as we unpack what it means to be a collections curator and how we can (and do) work together to deliver some amazing things. Tune in for discussions around job titles, working with community curators, and why we should pay for expertise. 01:39 What even is a curator? 14:34 Our experiences of working with curators 23:23 Can we change attitudes to curation? 31:16 Community curation and collaborations 38:48 The curator-conservator symbiosis 44:59 Helen’s path to curatorhood 50:59 How we can help one another Show Notes: - S07E04 Working with Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/ - S09E01 Working with Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/ - S03E01 Taking a Stand: https://thecword.show/2018/03/21/s03e01-taking-a-stand/ - Follow Helen Antrobus on Twitter: https://twitter.com/helenantrobus - Lexico definition: https://www.lexico.com/definition/curator - Tate definition: https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/c/curator - Macmillan definition: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/curator - Cambridge definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/curator - Wikipedia definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator - #AskACurator Day: https://twitter.com/askacurator - S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/ - Salford Museum & Art Gallery: https://salfordmuseum.com/ - People’s History Museum: https://phm.org.uk/ - The Royal Oak Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-royal-oak-foundation-conservation-studio Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Helen Antrobus. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We kick off season ten with a Zoom get-together! Jenny and Kloe bring some drinks and invite people along to think about how the last 12-18 months have been. We talk about what we’ve been up to, how our workplaces have changed, the absolute state of the job market, supply issues, the ‘planning ballet,’ and what we’re proud of. Many thanks to Mandy Garratt, Kendall Gay, Kaitlin Wieseman, Ellie Sweetnam, Caitlin Jenkins, Martha Jones, Raene Poisson, Odelia Cheung, Atticus Berry, Gwen Thomas, Jane Henderson, and Angélica Isa for joining the conversation! 00:01:01 Who are all these lovely people? 00:07:48 What have Kloe and Jenny been up to? 00:10:21 How has work changed? 00:25:16 Job market and cuts 00:35:48 Sourcing PPE and materials 00:39:27 Planning in uncertain times 00:48:44 What are we proud of? 01:00:17 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Mandy’s art: https://mandygarratt.wixsite.com/arty - Texas Forestry Museum: https://www.treetexas.com/ - Ellie’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/EllieSweetnam - Raene’s webpage: https://www.raenepoisson.com/ - Angélica’s blog: https://angelicaisa.com/ - Conserv-a-Llama: https://twitter.com/ConservaLlama - Odelia’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/avec_mesyeux/ - Atticus’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atticusjayphotography/ - Caitlin’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/caitlin_r_j - Martha’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/marthaejones2 - Museums & Galleries Edinburgh: https://www.edinburghmuseums.org.uk/ - Museums Association Redundancy Hub: https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/redundancy-hub/ - Icon’s Conservation and Coronavirus reports: https://www.icon.org.uk/campaigns/current-campaigns/workforce-research.html - Go follow Tamsin Russell on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TamsinRussell - Museums Association Well-Being Hub: https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/wellbeing-hub/ - S05E05 Portfolio Extravaganza (for Tamsin’s pep talk): https://thecword.show/2019/05/15/s05e05-portfolio-extravaganza/ - Remember when we all gave away our nitrile? https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/more-than-40-british-museums-and-conservators-donate-personal-protective-equipment-to-help-the-nhs-fight-the-covid-19-crisis - Go get your gloves at the chemist: https://twitter.com/conserve_lfcp/status/1435208967664381955 - S08E07 Learning and Teaching Remotely Part 2: https://thecword.show/2020/12/09/s08e07-learning-and-teaching-remotely-part-2/ - #FMJSummit panel with Raene, Gwen and Jenny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqBo9pyakU - Labelling Lightning Round: https://www.connectingtocollections.org/labeling-lightning-round/ - A project I’m proud of (humidity card talk): https://www.icon.org.uk/events/archaeology-group-a-project-i-am-proud-of.html - S07E05 Mind the Gap (for Ellie’s interview): https://thecword.show/2020/06/10/s07e05-mind-the-gap/ - Couch to 5K challenge: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/couch-to-5k-week-by-week/ - Ellie and Jane’s paper on disruptive conservation: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00393630.2021.1947073 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with special guest host Alison Lister we explore the process of dyeing fabrics for textile conservation: from why we do it to the secret of a good colour match. Also tune in for an interview with Laura Peters about her dye research, and a review of ’The Diversity of Dyes in History and Archaeology’ from Kloe. 00:39 Our experiences with dyes 09:49 Artistry vs repeatability in colour matching 12:08 Barriers to novice dyers and Jenny’s conundrum 14:03 When not to dye and what to do instead 15:55 The process of dyeing 21:37 Interview with Laura Peters 31:47 Conservators are creatures of habit 34:07 The kit you need 35:15 Natural vs synthetic dyes 38:33 Research questions for students 41:08 Alison shares some dye hacks 47:29 Review: The Diversity of Dyes in History and Archaeology 52:10 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Alison’s company: https://textileconservationlimited.co.uk/ - Information on LANASET dyes: https://www.textile-dyes.co.uk/lanaset.pdf - A little bit about the Textile Conservation Centre (now Centre for Textile Conservation): https://www.tccfoundation.org.uk/centre-for-textile-conservation - Get in touch with Laura: https://www.th-koeln.de/personen/laura.peters/ - Conservation in Colour symposium postprints: https://www.icon.org.uk/asset/4C8851C0-0209-4C1C-907647C9FC0E408E/ - ’Evaluation of the dyes used in conservation and restoration of archaeological textiles’ article: https://www.academia.edu/19973882/Evaluation_of_the_dyes_used_in_conservation_and_restoration_of_Archaeological_textiles - The Diversity of Dyes in History and Archaeology: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/the-diversity-of-dyes/?id=255 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Alison Lister. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We look up from our workbenches for a moment and think about how to make some savvy business decisions: what can conservators do beyond classic benchwork? Guest host Lucy Branch shares her experiences of creating alternative income streams, while Jenny thinks about tactics employed outside of conservation. Also tune in for a business pep talk with Lorraine Finch! 02:16 The value of resilience 04:45 Lucy’s creative writing 13:07 Why this isn’t JUST for freelancers 15:39 Training and skill sharing 18:14 Giving other people multiple ways of supporting your work 26:37 Evaluating your skill set 37:28 Interview with Lorraine Finch Show Notes: - Freelancing episode: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/ - Side Hustle episode: https://thecword.show/2019/12/11/s06e07-side-hustle/ - Lucy’s books: https://www.lucybranch.com/books and https://www.amazon.co.uk/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B00VB12EVA - Publishing episode: https://thecword.show/2019/06/12/s05e07-publishing-your-work/ - Teaching and learning remotely episode: https://thecword.show/2020/11/26/s08e06-learning-and-teaching-remotely-part-1/ - Digital tip jar: https://www.wearetipjar.com/ - Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/ - Funding episode: https://thecword.show/2018/06/13/s03e07-funding/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Lucy Branch. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with special gust host Talitha Wachtelborn we explore the world of leather conservation: from book bindings to suitcases! Also tune in for an interview with Mike Redwood about the history of tanning and the sustainability of leather, and a chat with Rosie Bolton and Arianne Panton from the Leather Conservation Centre. 00:01:37 Our experience with leather (oh behave!) 00:07:34 How long have humans been using leather? 00:09:52 Manufacture impacts condition 00:18:10 Leather use in a societal context 00:23:47 Leather substitutes 00:29:38 Consolidation, secret sauce, and ethics 00:37:16 Interview with Mike Redwood 00:53:47 Interview with the Leather Conservation Centre 01:09:41 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Smut episode: https://thecword.show/2018/11/30/s04e06-smut/ - Wet Stuff episode: https://thecword.show/2019/03/20/s05e01-wet-stuff/ - History and Conservation of Leather: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/gilding-and-decorative-surfaces-group-history-and-conservation-of-leather.html - Development of archival leather by J Hewit & Sons Ltd: https://www.hewit.com/download/fs-craft.pdf - Red rot: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Red_rot - Herre de Vries’ talk on shark skin leather bindings: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/lecture-29-herre-de-vries.html - Rexine artificial leather: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexine - Artificial leather on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_leather - Leather Conservation Centre: https://leatherconservation.org/ - Japan and its leather: https://www.mikeredwood.com/japan-and-its-leather/ - Mike’s blog on leather manufacture: https://www.mikeredwood.com/leather-technology-background/leather-manufacturing-and-technology-in-detail/ - Museum of Leathercraft: https://nationalleathercollection.org/ - Bats in Portugese libraries: https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/08/09/bats-portugal/ - Conserving some Adidas trainers: https://leatherconservation.org/dribble-me-this-conserving-adidas-k-abdul-jabbar-trainers/ - Conserving Arthur’s coin purse: https://leatherconservation.org/ww1-purse-belonging-to-arthur-william-byford%e2%80%af/ - Education via the LCC: https://leatherconservation.org/education/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Talitha Wachtelborn. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We’re getting into the groove about things that move with special guest host Matthew Read. What exactly is a dynamic object and how do you go about preserving one? Kloe talks to Ken Cobb about conserving electrical objects and Jenny speaks to Chris Weeks about motorcycles that still need to vroom. Also tune in for a book review of ’Handmade: A Scientist’s Search for Meaning Through Making’ by Anna Ploszajski. 00:03:43 What do we mean by dynamic objects? 00:11:36 The idea of performance 00:16:00 What’s value, anyway? 00:18:23 Visitor expectation and conservation approach 00:23:47 What would WE do? 00:30:15 Interview with Ken Cobb 00:41:59 Working with artists and emulation 00:47:32 What would it take for us to say no? 00:50:52 Don’t be frightened of clocks 00:53:43 Getting into the business 00:58:34 Interview with Chris Weeks 01:13:16 Review: Handmade 01:16:19 Questions, comments, and corrections 01:17:21 Patreon shout-outs Show Notes: - West Dean course: https://www.westdean.org.uk/study/specialisms/horology-and-clocks - Dynamic Objects Network: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/dynamic-objects.html - Swan automaton at the Bowes Museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Swan_(automaton) and https://www.thebowesmuseum.org.uk/Collection/Explore-The-Collection/The-Silver-Swan - Thinking Big episode: https://thecword.show/2019/11/13/s06e05-thinking-big/ - Antikythera mechanism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism - Danger, Danger episode: https://thecword.show/2017/08/23/s02e01-danger-danger/ - The Repair Shop: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08l581p - Touchy Feely episode: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/ - Replicas, Surrogates and Digitisation episode: https://thecword.show/2017/11/01/s02e06-replicas-surrogates-and-digitisation/ - Keep It Moving book: http://www.getty.edu/conservation/publications_resources/pdf_publications/keep_it_moving.html - Open Clock Club: https://yorkfestivalofideas.com/2021/calendar/open-clock-club/ - Birmingham City University Horology degree: https://www.bcu.ac.uk/courses/horology-ba-hons-2021-22 - WOSTEP training course: https://www.britishschoolofwatchmaking.co.uk/ - Matthew’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/repair-pendulum-clocks-step-step/dp/1838100725 - Secrets of the Transport Museum: https://yesterday.uktv.co.uk/shows/secrets-of-the-transport-museum/ - Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/ - Isle of Man Museum: https://www.imuseum.im/ - Handmade: https://www.annaploszajski.com/book Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Matthew Read. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.