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Summary In this conversation, Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discuss their study of Genesis chapter two, verses four through seven. They started their study from the beginning of Genesis and talked about how it wasn't a Jewish text initially. They also discussed how the Scriptures were the beginning of the story for the Jews before they went into captivity in Babylon. Pastor Bill reads from the Christian Standard Bible, not because he thinks it's perfect, but because no translation could be perfect as it's impossible to know the intentions of someone when they were writing the scriptures. They go through the verses word by word, looking for words that are different and could indicate that something deeper or more is being said. They discuss the creation of the earth and the heavens, the absence of shrubs and plants, and the mist that watered the ground before the creation of man. They then talk about how the Lord God formed the man out of dust from the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, making him a living being. Overall, their discussion focuses on the deeper meanings and insights that can be gained from studying the Scriptures in detail. The speaker discusses the significance of the phrase these are the records of the heavens and the earth concerning their creation at the time that the Lord God made the earth and heavens in Genesis chapter two, verse four. They explain that while the first part of the phrase is not particularly noteworthy, the second half - which refers to Jehovah and Elohim - is significant as it defines Jehovah as a specific, divine being. This, in turn, gives us an idea of when the text may have been written, as Jehovah is not identified by name until Exodus chapter three. The speaker goes on to mention that this chapter describes the story of Moses and the burning bush, which is where God first refers to himself as Jehovah. The conversation revolves around the book of Genesis in the Bible, specifically the story of Moses and God's revelation of his name, Jehovah. The discussion touches on the idea that Moses might not have existed but the point is that God shared his name with humanity at a certain time. This is significant as it is the first time that God identified himself by name to mankind. The conversation also touches on the structure of Genesis, which follows a pattern of recording human interactions with God and tracking the genealogies of specific individuals such as Adam, Noah, and Abraham. It is noted that Genesis is not a history book but a religious text useful for teaching, correcting, and building up faith. The discussion concludes by emphasizing the importance of understanding that Genesis is a record of oral histories and human interactions with God, rather than a book of direct descendantship or religious clubs. In a conversation between two pastors, they discuss the significance of the story of Abraham in the book of Genesis. They note that Abraham was found faithful and God chose to favor his bloodline, which is why his lineage is blessed and why the scriptures still exist. The pastors also point out that before God whispered to Abraham in the desert, the whole world had forgotten the name of God. They emphasize that Genesis chapter two has ties that are connected to future scriptures and that people refer back to these scriptures frequently. Both pastors agree on the importance of understanding the context of the Bible and how it informs our understanding of God's plan for humanity. Chapters 0:00:00 "Transcript: Season 4, Episode 13 of The Berean Manifesto - Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian"  0:02:58 Weekly Update: Quizzing Competition and Gaming Beta Testing  0:05:26 Discussion and State Event Anecdote  0:10:21 Transcript of a Podcast Episode: Messing with Children for Fun with a Professional Writer  0:14:44 A Casual Conversation with a Pastor.  0:16:50 A Conversation on Favorite Movie Scenes and Coping Strategies for Bad Days  0:19:52 A Casual Conversation on Coping with Bad Days and Humorous Jokes about Jesus 0:22:54 A Discussion on Genesis 2:4-7: Word by Word Analysis with Pastors Bill and Newms  Analysis of Genesis and Exodus: The Use of Names for God  0:30:02 Analysis of Genesis: The Naming of God and the Cycle of Genealogies  0:37:51 A Discussion on the Significance of Abraham and Genesis Chapter Two in Biblical History  0:39:13 A Discussion on the Cultural and Linguistic Context of the Word "Jehovah" in the Bible  0:41:01 A Casual Conversation between Pastors on Genesis 25  0:46:28 A Discussion on Genesis 2:6-7: The Creation of Man and the Importance of God's Personal Involvement  0:48:46 Analysis of Genesis 2:7: The Formation of Human Beings from Dust  0:59:18 Discussion on the Concept of God's Breath and the Human Soul  1:00:15 A Discussion on the Spiritual Significance of Breath and the Beginning of Life in Different Faiths  1:09:13 "The Berean Manifesto: A Weekly Podcast on Faith, Hop, and Love for the Modern Christian"  Transcript 0:00:00 Pastor Bill: It's. Hello, and welcome to season four, episode 13 of The Berean Manifesto. Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill, and I am joined, as always, by Pastor Newms. And Pastor Newms was telling us about some stuff about his day, and we've just kind of been hanging out while the intro music played because we record this live, right? Every Sunday night we record this live at 06:30 p.m. Central Standard Time. And if you're enjoying listening to this podcast not live, then you might enjoy coming and hanging out on Twitch or Facebook or YouTube in the chat. You froze me? 0:00:52 Pastor Newms: Yeah, I forgot if I opened up my little thing to take a screenshot that it would freeze you like this, but not like that. 0:01:03 Pastor Bill: Why are you screenshotting me? 0:01:05 Pastor Newms: I'm not screenshotting you. Okay, screenshoting a bathroom layout. That is kind of like what I'm talking about, but not quite. 0:01:15 Pastor Bill: But see, we were talking about that before we went officially live. 0:01:19 Pastor Newms: Well, I didn't say what it was. I didn't say why. 0:01:22 Pastor Bill: I didn't say why I was sending you a screenshot of a bathroom. 0:01:25 Pastor Newms: Yeah. 0:01:25 Pastor Bill: Going to randomly throw that in there and let listeners wonder. 0:01:28 Pastor Newms: Let them wonder. Let them wonder. 0:01:29 Pastor Bill: So if you wanted to join us live and be a part of the conversation, you can type in the chat. Like just now, we got a chat message from Zaydie, who's one of our regulars on Twitch. She just said hi, but if at any point she wanted to be more part of the conversation with questions or concerns like last week, like last week, then she could. And I would like to invite everyone who's listening to avail yourself of these technological capabilities as well and join us on Sunday nights when we record live. All right, Pastor Newms, how was your week? 0:02:11 Pastor Newms: Strong breath is a good waves. No, my week was pretty good. 0:02:16 Pastor Bill: Your week was strong breath? 0:02:18 Pastor Newms: Yeah, strong breath like a good strong exhale. No, my week was good. Monday through Friday was just busy, but not bad busy. It was just work busy. And then yesterday, the state finals for the Junior Bible Quiz thing that Seraphina has recently gotten involved in. 0:02:58 Pastor Bill: Was there. 0:02:59 Pastor Newms: And so there were people from across Tennessee, mainly from Knoxville, the Nashville area and then, of course, the Memphis area and then someone from outside the state. But their state doesn't have one, so they're part of our state for the finals. And the number one place gets an automatic the number one team for Quizzing gets to go to nationals and then so many other teams get to go to regionals which then they can try to place in nationals. And so it's kind of cool. And so I coached that yesterday, and so that was a lot of up and down the stairs and a lot of around and around, which is fun, but it was good because the girls had fun and both of them beat their daily high scores, which was good, so it was fun. And then that's really all the only memorable thing I did this week. Everything else was pretty much just normal work. I did finish, not finish. I did more of the Diablo four open beta this week. This is the last open beta before launch on 66, and so that was fun and got to play with that some more, so it was good. 0:04:46 Pastor Bill: Cool. 0:04:48 Pastor Newms: How was your week, Pastor Bill? 0:04:50 Pastor Bill: Well, in my neck of the woods, so last week we had been talking about Gerg and his old One Act Play stuff, and I didn't have all the correct information. So Wednesday they had their, what they were what we called bi-district competition. 0:05:07 Pastor Newms: Okay. 0:05:08 Pastor Bill: Which they placed in one of the top three positions. So they do move on, but apparently they move on from by district into area, and then if they succeeded area, then they move on to region, and if they succeed at region, then they move on to state. 0:05:26 Pastor Newms: Okay. 0:05:30 Pastor Bill: But they only had to do good at by district in order to letter to get a letterman's jacket. So he's going to get a letterman jacket now because of how they did him by district, so that's cool. 0:05:44 Pastor Newms: That is kind of cool. Yeah, that is pretty cool. 0:05:50 Pastor Bill: And then, you know that new little bug on my Windscreen. 0:06:01 Pastor Newms: The Mic isn't new. 0:06:03 Pastor Bill: Why are you pointing at it? 0:06:05 Pastor Newms: No. 0:06:05 Pastor Bill: Transcribing software that I had discovered and started using, and it was kind of touch and go. Yeah, it turns out they were in alpha when all that was going on, and they launched the official beta this week, and I was able to get into the beta, so I'm in the beta for that and that's going well. Yeah. So I've been using some of that. 0:06:29 Pastor Newms: This week, putting a bunch of our stuff in there, just no, but I've. 0:06:35 Pastor Bill: Been going through there and pointing out the obvious. Well to me, obvi

  Summary Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discuss the chapter breakdown of the bible, stating that it is often split up like bad television, with no real reason for it. They acknowledged the need for it in order to make it easier for churches and groups to talk about, but were still frustrated by it. They then moved on to discuss Genesis two, which Pastor Bill noted should technically be the end of chapter one. They then discuss the poetic implications and deeper meanings behind the words of Genesis one, before moving on to talk about the start of chapter two. Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discuss the translation of Genesis 2:1-3, which states that God completed His work on the seventh day and rested, declaring it holy. Pastor Newms mentioned the Greek Old Testament, which is the one Paul used when he wrote the New Testament, reads that God had completed His work on the sixth day and rested on the seventh day. However, the majority of manuscripts say that God completed His work on the seventh day and rested on the seventh day. Pastor Newms suggested that the NASB translation bridges the gap between the two translations. Pastors Bill and Newms discussed the idea of God resting on the seventh day. They looked at two different manuscripts that present the idea differently, but are not contradictory. The first one Sez that God finished his work on the sixth day and then rested on the seventh day, while the other one Sez that he completed his work by resting on the seventh day. They also discussed a conversation they had with a Muslim gentleman who scoffed at the idea that God would need to rest. Pastor Bill explained that the Bible does not say that God needed to rest, but that he chose to rest. The conversation discusses God resting on the seventh day, as described in Exodus 30:17. Pastor Bill explains that the Sabbath is not a legalistic observance, but rather a day of rest and refreshment to help people reset and refocus after six days of work. He further explains that research has shown that a day of rest is essential for the human mind in order to prevent it from schisming. The day of rest is an opportunity to reset and recharge in order to do one's best work. Timestamps 0:21:29 Conversation Summary: Exploring the Meaning Behind Genesis One and Two   0:25:20 Conversation on Genesis 2:1-3: God's Rest on the Seventh Day   0:26:42 Heading: Exploring the Meaning of the Sabbath in the Bible   0:30:22 Conversation on the Significance of the Sabbath Day   0:33:54 Conversation on the Importance of Rest and Self-Care   0:40:34 Conversation on Self-Care and Rest: Taking Time for Yourself   0:43:10 Conversation between Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms on the Importance of Resting and Manual Clocks   0:45:14 Conversation between Pastor Newms and Pastor Bill on the Brian Manifesto Podcast   0:48:53 Heading: Podcast Discussion on Meeting Over a Meal and Feeding People   0:50:14 Conversation on Tennessee's Political Climate and Drag Queen Story Time   Transcript [0:00:00]  Pastor Bill: He's got a roll of toilet paper on top of his head with the sheets draped down over top of his face. [0:00:07]  Pastor Newms: You haven't said hello and welcome. This is going to get edited out. [0:00:12]  Pastor Bill: Oh, man. Hello, and welcome to season four, episode twelve of the Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill, and Pastor Newms with a roll of toilet paper on top of his head has joined, as always. [0:00:30]  Pastor Newms: Lies. Go back and watch the Twitch. There is not a toilet paper roll on my head. [0:00:34]  Pastor Bill: He took it off as I was doing the intro because he was like, you haven't done the intro yet, so I'm cutting this part out where they're not going to hear you telling them, I've got a toilet paper roll on top of my head. [0:00:44]  Pastor Newms: I never said most of that. [0:00:50]  Pastor Bill: All right, maybe you didn't use all those words exactly. [0:00:54]  Pastor Newms: That's why I said most of that. Some of those words were words I used. All right, Pastor Bill. [0:01:02]  Pastor Bill: All right, pastor Newms, how was starting with your week? [0:01:05]  Pastor Newms: No, I already said it. [0:01:11]  Pastor Bill: How was my week? This was spring break for our kids. [0:01:15]  Pastor Newms: Well, two weeks, really, because we didn't do last week because it was yo mama's birthday and Sez, his birthday, and Groggy's birthday. [0:01:30]  Pastor Bill: I don't remember the week before this last one that we just had. I don't remember it. [0:01:38]  Pastor Newms: I just turned your face off. I didn't turn your face off. No one saw that. [0:01:43]  Pastor Bill: Um, the Gergs Theater competition, they got perfect marks all across the board. All three judges in all categories. [0:01:59]  Pastor Newms: Yay. [0:02:00]  Pastor Bill: They're moving on to what's called bi-district. [0:02:03]  Pastor Newms: Bi-district. [0:02:05]  Pastor Bill: That's called bi-district. [0:02:08]  Pastor Newms: See that right there? That right there is what happens when you have independent school districts and not just counties, where you got to do by districts in order to then have regionals after that. That's insane. You got too many schools in that state. [0:02:25]  Pastor Bill: Technically, it's bi-districts. And the top two schools from each of those go on to state. [0:02:35]  Pastor Newms: They don't just call those regional. [0:02:38]  Pastor Bill: No bi-district. [0:02:40]  Pastor Newms: I hate Texas sometimes your guys' independent school districts are like the bane of everyone else's existence. You all are just special out there. [0:02:53]  Pastor Bill: It's the UIL that administers it all. The University Scholastic League. They organize all the football, everything. And they organize all the education competitions and all the band competitions, all the choir competitions. They organize all that. So they make all those calls. So yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So that happened a week before last, and then this last week was spring break, like I said, for our kids. And you'd think that would make life easier, not having to get up every morning and take the kids to school. But no one grandma wants kids on some days and the other grandma wants things on some days. And I'm running all over town trying to get things done during spring break. Because the kids are wanting to do all kinds of things. I like all that, though, is Hello Fresh was running a Hulu promotion and I was able to get like six meals for four persons per meal for like 90% off because it combined the Hulu promotion with like a first time buyer promotion. And so we ate some really good recipes this week. That was fun. [0:04:28]  Pastor Newms: Okay. [0:04:29]  Pastor Bill: Yeah. So how was your week? [0:04:33]  Pastor Newms: I'm going to do the thing you're never supposed to do and touch your microphone because there's something on it. It looks like a cat hair, and it's driving me batty because it's right out of the corner of my eye. 1 second. I feel like you need to talk. [0:04:43]  Pastor Bill: I'm sitting too high. [0:04:46]  Pastor Newms: I feel like I'm not sitting high. [0:04:48]  Pastor Bill: Enough, like more than my head should be going or something. But if I move my camera, the clock here is going to be in the wrong place. The clock is supposed to be done. [0:05:02]  Pastor Newms: Okay. How was my week? So my two weeks was pretty good. It's been an eventful two weeks. Last weekend we had a church work day during on a Saturday. And that is more how you normally sit. Yes. [0:05:20]  Pastor Bill: And. [0:05:26]  Pastor Newms: It hurt the church work day? Yeah. Just because there's so much I got some physical issues. We all know I've got some physical issues, right? And so, yeah, it was rough. Some of the I worked real hard because it's church work day. So I got in there and was like, get it. And then I was like, get it. And I slightly twisted my knee, which is not uncommon. This isn't like, oh, Newms. Is getting old and injured. No. I've been twisting my knees since I was 14, so it made me stop playing sports. Was knee pain. Knee pain is normal. [0:06:23]  Pastor Bill: Like me spraining my ankles. [0:06:24]  Pastor Newms: Yeah, exactly. Or like Zaydie spraining her stepping wrong and popping her foot. And then she swings her foot around to repop it because she sprained them so many times that they just it's like a pop and lock Barbie. [0:06:39]  Pastor Bill: Pop and lock Barbie. [0:06:42]  Pastor Newms: No, she freaked out her coworkers because it happened the other day and her ankle popped. She goes, oh, that doesn't feel right, and swung it around and popped it and she goes, oh, that feels better. And they're all staring at her like wide eyed and like, this girl's a robot. She just popped her ankle at will to walk straight. I don't even know if she's on right now hearing me call her out because she's done her making dinner. So I don't think she's turned on the live, so ha. She won't even know I'm talking mess about her. He'll tell her. And so that was interesting. So then when you texted me and you were like, let's not have church to allow for oh, she's here. I was wrong. [0:07:26]  Pastor Bill: Your wife was here hearing you talk smack about her. [0:07:28]  Pastor Newms: When you were like, I was actually sitting at the table with Sez, and you were like, let's not let's celebrate birthdays. And I was like Sez, we're not celebrating, so I love you, and I'm going to bed early. He's not listening to us. I can see his screens. He's watching YouTube. Anyway, so that was good. And then this week was busy. Just been very busy. I just feel like I'm just busy all the time right now, and I don't like it, but it's good. We had a close friend of ours mother passed, and so we had went to her funeral in Memphis yesterday to support him. And that's, of course, real emotional because they were super close, so that was rough. And t

Summary Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms were discussing Genesis 1 and the history of how it became included as part of the book of Genesis. They discussed how during the captivity in Babylon, stories from Babylon were added to the existing Genesis 2, as they provided more detail to the creation story. Pastor Newms then reminded Pastor Bill that the Judeans, ancestors of the Jews, were originally a polytheistic people. In summary, the conversation revolved around the history of Genesis 1 and the Judeans. The conversation discussed the ancient Israelites and their belief in multiple gods and their worship of Ashra, a female deity who was believed to be the wife of Yahweh. Yahweh is mentioned in both Sumerian mythology and in the Mosaic Law. Despite this, the Israelites continued to worship other gods, so God punished them by sending them into captivity. The descendants of these captives went on to become the Samaritans, who still held onto some of their beliefs and were expecting the Messiah. Despite their own experiences with God, they eventually gave up the worship of Asherah. Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discussed the origin of the story of Genesis 1. They noted that it was likely adapted from Sumerian myth by the Babylonians, who wanted the Jewish people to worship their king as a monotheistic god. However, the Jewish people saw similarities between the Sumerian myth and their own history, and made changes to make it more palatable to their own culture. They read Genesis 1, noting the broader strokes of the story, as compared to the more detailed account of Genesis 2. Ultimately, the conversation concluded with an invitation to read Genesis 1. God began the creation of the world by separating light from darkness and creating an expanse between the waters. He then caused the earth to produce vegetation, seed-bearing plants, and fruit trees. He made the two great lights to rule over the day and night and placed stars in the sky. He also caused the waters to swarm with living creatures and the earth to produce livestock, creatures that crawl, and wildlife. On the fifth day, God looked on His creation and saw that it was good.   The topic according to AI In the religious reflection being discussed, the authors believe that the creation story in the book of Genesis is a historical truth and has a significant impact on our relationship with God as our creator. They argue that the form of the document, its position at the beginning of the book of Genesis, and historical evidence all support the idea that the creation of the heavens, the earth, and all living things is a work of God and an objective fact. The authors critique the limitations of science in establishing the periods of creation and argue that the conclusions about fossiliferous formations and the plants and animals they contain are not established truths and have not been confirmed by continued research. The author summarizes the creation story in Genesis 1:1-13, which describes the creation of heaven and earth, including the creation of light, the firmament, the sea, the earth and its fruits, the lights of heaven, fish and fowl, beasts, man, and food for both. The text stresses the importance of recognizing God's presence in our lives and putting Him first in all things. Humans were created in God's image and given the ability to have dominion over the earth, but it is important to ask God to control the evil in our hearts. The authors also emphasize the importance of examining one's daily work and making improvements, as well as the divine proportioning of day and night, with light symbolizing God, truth, heaven, and decency. The beauty of nature is seen as evidence of the existence of God, and the darkness in the book of Genesis is a symbol of the ongoing struggle between light and darkness. The authors’ central belief is that God is the creator of all things and that creation serves to reveal the truth about His nature and character. They see the relationship between science and God as complementary, with design being at the core of both, and believe that the concept of light and darkness in the book of Genesis is a symbol of the ongoing struggle between good and evil. The author encourages us to live in the Spirit and serve the common good, putting God first in all things, as they believe this is the greatest honor and safety for all. The authors also focus on two specific Hebrew words in the creation story, "nephesh" and "tannin," and offer alternative interpretations to gain a deeper understanding of their significance. They assert that the universe and all its elements were created for a purpose, as an expression of God's love and grace for humanity, and that everything in creation is imbued with a Divine Blessing that serves to preserve the community and support all life. The author presents a comprehensive view of the creation of the sea and air creatures in the Bible, as they see it as a demonstration of God's wisdom, power, and love. They believe that the creation of the universe is not just a physical event but a spiritual one as well, and that the universe was created with a purpose and a specific role to play in God's overall plan. The author interprets the creation story in Genesis 1 as a depiction of God's creative work and argues that all elements of the universe, including sea and air creatures, are symbols of God's glory and power. They delve into the meanings of the Hebrew words "nephesh" and "tannin" used in Genesis 1, offering alternative interpretations to shed light on their significance in the creation story. The authors highlight the numerous ways in which God's presence and power are manifested in the universe, from the physical laws governing the movement of stars and planets to the intricate and diverse forms of life on earth. They emphasize the importance of recognizing the hand of God in the creation of the universe and trusting in Him for our daily sustenance and blessings.   Timestamps 25:07 Conversation Summary: Genesis 1 Overview + 28:45 Exploring the Ancient Polytheistic Beliefs of the Israelites + 34:02 Discussion of the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Babylon + 37:28 Summary of Genesis 1: Creation of the Heavens and the Earth + 40:17 Conversation Summary: Exploring the Creation of Man in Genesis 1-2 + 42:20 Conversation on Splitting Chapters and Verses in the Bible + 45:34 Conversation between Pastors Bill and Newms on the Nature of the Bible + 47:09 Conversation between Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms on Faith and Eternity + 50:42 Exploring the Significance of Faith in Genesis 1 + 56:29 Conversation Summary: Exploring the Identity of the Conqueror in Revelation 21:7-8 + 1:00:51 "Exploring the Different Translations of the Bible: A Conversation between Pastors Bill and Newms" + 1:05:40 Conversation Between Pastor Newms and Pastor Bill on the Podcast "Ekk House" + 1:07:31 Conversation Summary: Disagreeing and Appreciating New Listeners +   Transcription Pastor Bill: [0:01] Hello and welcome to season 4 episode 11 of The Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill and I'm joined by Pastor Newms. So last week we had all kinds of technical difficulties that I was completely oblivious to until I went to go listen to the thing. Pastor Newms tried to bring it up at the very, very beginning, but he wasn't as forceful as I, you know, as I actually needed him to be. So I didn't really pick up what he was putting down and I just pushed just ahead Yeah, I was like apologies pastor Newms I should have listened better when you were saying I mean last week and Some people might not have even noticed I'm gonna be honest like it's one of those things where are you kidding me? It was horrible. Pastor Newms: [0:47] Well, it was horrible once it went through well Yeah, it was horrible. But like I'll be honest your audio has sounded worse because of technical like oh it's a bad night so you're in and out oh it's fuzzy cuz discourse so it's one of those where it's like okay how much do I bring up the fact that it could be electrical issues like microphone issues it could just be like the the internet is so garbage there that the laser beam doesn't want to work at the moment like you know we're not using cables in the lane yeah like so I was like maybe you know you know I don't know man I don't know but it um it was yeah I. Pastor Bill: [1:35] Got my retro Justice League shirt on Pastor Newms: I do not have a retro shirt on I have a shirt that's from an active anime and manga Which so I bought this shirt, and I didn't wear it I hadn't worn it because I wasn't far enough in the anime to justify wearing an anime shirt if that makes sense I don't know if anyone else does that But so I pulled it out of the back of the closet today and um put it on and my youngest daughter who is Far farther ahead in this particular. Anime than I am she is. Um, where'd that shirt come from? What do you mean? Um, your shirt, you've never worn that shirt. Where did you get that shirt? Uh, is that a... is that a you shirt? Like, asking, is this a you only? Can I steal this shirt when you're not looking? Will you get upset if I steal this shirt when you're not looking? You know, and I'm like, yes it is. It's a me only shirt. I didn't wear it because I wasn't... and she's like, well I mean can you even name the characters on it? I'm like look, you're not weeb-guilting me into giving you the shirt and no I can't name all of them but weeb-guilting? You can't have this shirt so not your shirt and for in case it's my hero academia in case you can't, I realize you can't actually see it But, um... Yeah, so then she proceeds to tell me each person and what their quirk superpower is. And, uh... I think I'm trying to keep it to myself. Pastor Bill: [3:39] Am I in Justice League of America? Pastor Newms: [3:44] It is. Pastor Bill: [3:48] And Batman's got his blue cowl on, so this is more 50s, 60s... Pastor Newms: [3:56] And and that's the you know Weird arrow when they were you know when his costume was I mean sorry Green Lantern when it was a We like it's a different You know Style It's not his. Pastor Bill: [4:19] Black pants, black boots, black mask. G

In this episode: Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discuss Genesis 1:24-25 from the Christian Standard Bible, in which God commands the earth to produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, wildlife, and creatures that crawl on the ground. They discuss the Hebrew word nehfesh, which is used to denote the soul or spirit of a living creature, and how it is used in the passage to describe the living creatures. They also discuss how the words for “whales” and “birds” were translated differently in the KJV and CSB, noting that in the KJV, the word for “whales” actually refers to a monster or sea serpent. Finally, Pastor Newms jokes that some fish are given a soul, but not all. Pastor Bill and Pastor Newms discuss the creation of the world as described in the Bible in Genesis. God created livestock, reptiles, and wildlife according to their kinds. God gave them their portions and saw that it was good. They discussed how God personally made the things, rather than just commanding them to exist. They further distinguished that God saw that it was good, rather than looking within himself and recognizing it. Pastors Bill and Newms discuss the breakdown of two verses from the Bible, Genesis 1:24-25. In these verses, God creates various animals, including cattle, creeping things, and beasts of the Earth, and declares them to be good. The authors note that the creation of animals was necessary for the arrival of man, as they serve various purposes such as transportation, food, and commerce. They also highlight the special relationship that humans have with God and their elevated status among all creatures. Pastor Bill then delivers the topic according to AI, where he fed the viewpoints of seven different commentaries into Chat GPT and got a synopsis on what they all cover. The pastors also talk about the Wizard of Oz reference in the episode title. Pastors Bill and Newms discuss the lack of mention of dinosaurs in the book of Genesis. Pastor Newms explains that this is likely because the text was written by Babylonians, who would not have known of dinosaurs since they were extinct by that point. Pastor Bill then points out that some theologians have narrowed the descriptions of 'great beasts' in the Bible to modern animals. Pastor Newms adds that if we look at the Bible from the standpoint that everything was created at the same time, dinosaurs would be considered creeping things or monstrous sea creatures. Ultimately, the conversation concludes that Genesis one is likely a retelling of the story with added in details from the rest of the book.   Timestamps: 0:26:18 Conversation Summary: Genesis 1:24-25 0:30:59 Conversation on the Creation of Livestock, Reptiles, and Wildlife in the Bible 0:33:56 Conversation Summary: 6th Day of Creation in the Bible 0:40:29 Conversation Between Pastors Bill and Newms on the Absence of Dinosaurs in Genesis One 0:43:15 Conversation on the Babylonian Account of Creation in Genesis One 0:48:58 Heading: The Weaponization of Scripture: A Conversation on Creationism and Apologetics 0:50:33 Conversation on Faith and Science    Transcription: [0:00:00]  Pastor Newms: Face Live. [0:00:02]  Pastor Bill: Face live. You can see my awesome shirt. This is one of the shirts my mama got me for my birthday. [0:00:09]  Pastor Newms: I see a shirt. Yes. [0:00:11]  Pastor Bill: My wife says it looks like a hotel quilt pattern on the shirt. [0:00:18]  Pastor Newms: I don't think it's the hotel quilt, but it is definitely. If it was beige, I would agree that it looks like the curtains. That says several hotels I've got, but I haven't seen a blue like that. I mean, if the material is right, it's a good shirt. Material ain't a good shirt. [0:00:34]  Pastor Bill: I like it. [0:00:36]  Pastor Newms: It's one of those things, really, to a certain degree. We're at the age where it's like, does the design truly matter? [0:00:46]  Pastor Bill: No, comfort matters. That's what matters. It's all about comfort, folks. Yeah. It's like, let nobody lie to you. [0:00:59]  Pastor Newms: But yes. So, Pastor Bill, how was your week? [0:01:04]  Pastor Bill: My week was pretty good, as you know. We took last Sunday off. We didn't record a new podcast last Sunday. Not only was it the littlest shay's birthday, like, straight up, his birthday proper, but then the Super Bowl. So we hung out, enjoyed his birthday, we watched the Super Bowl commercials. The second half of the Super Bowl was quite compelling. The Eagles were putting up a crazy defense, and it wasn't enough, but it was entertaining enough that it caught my attention. [0:01:49]  Pastor Newms: That is crazy. I did not even watch the commercials. I didn't even watch the commercials. Yeah, I straight up. Just nothing this year with it. [0:01:59]  Pastor Bill: The highlights of the commercials were there were a lot of big-name faces. [0:02:05]  Pastor Newms: Oh, really? They went that route? [0:02:07]  Pastor Bill: Yeah. And QR codes. [0:02:10]  Pastor Newms: Really? [0:02:10]  Pastor Bill: Almost every company had a QR code in the commercial. Aren't we like this now? [0:02:16]  Pastor Newms: Like five years past that? Like, where are we? [0:02:19]  Pastor Bill: And actually, they're finally catching up to the rest of us. [0:02:23]  Pastor Newms: As far as QR codes aren't QR cards already dead? [0:02:28]  Pastor Bill: Yeah, they died about ten years ago, and corporations are just now getting there to the pre-death of QR code. That's funny. [0:02:40]  Pastor Newms: Yeah, that's so funny. [0:02:45]  Pastor Bill: What else do you do? I spent a lot of time working on some social media marketing for a book publication that came out that I wrote a short story that got put in. So I spent a lot of time working on that. That's about it. Hanging out with the family, and working on marketing stuff now. [0:03:08]  Pastor Newms: I didn't understand what it has to do with strawberries. [0:03:16]  Pastor Bill: One of the stories in the anthology is The Selection of a Sacred Strawberry. So they should name the whole collection of stories after that one. Either that was their favorite or I don't know, something that's the main one, or something, I guess. [0:03:36]  Pastor Newms: I mean, I've never particularly been fond of strawberries or sweet bread, and I'm not big on festivals, but it's one. [0:03:46]  Pastor Bill: Of those things he's quoting from the short story or talking about the short story that I wrote. [0:03:54]  Pastor Newms: You don't know that. You didn't send it to me. [0:04:00]  Pastor Bill: I sent you the name. I sent you all the pertinent information. [0:04:03]  Pastor Newms: You did not send me the short story, so how would I know? [0:04:12]  Pastor Bill: I didn't send you this one. You could have gotten it on Kindle or Unlimited. This one could have ordered like this. There you go. He's got a copy. My copy comes in tomorrow. [0:04:24]  Pastor Newms: Actually, I made Groggy go through. So at the beginning of the book, there's an excerpt, a little thing about each writer. [0:04:36]  Pastor Bill: Right. [0:04:37]  Pastor Newms: The weird thing is, one of three who their name is not in the first four words, so it almost makes it look like a second paragraph about the previous person. [0:04:59]  Pastor Bill: That's funny. [0:05:02]  Pastor Newms: But. [0:05:04]  Pastor Bill: A little 53-word biography that I've crafted for use in my. [0:05:10]  Pastor Newms: Guess would be so there's 28 literary pieces. My guess would be that's the winner winner. [0:05:22]  Pastor Bill: Yeah. I would guess there were three. They said the top three would get a free copy of the book and yada, yada, yada. So I'm guessing that was number one. Number one, yeah. [0:05:33]  Pastor Newms: I would think that was the selection. [0:05:34]  Pastor Bill: Of the sacred strawberry. But yeah, I don't know. I haven't read any of the other stories yet. [0:05:41]  Pastor Newms: I didn't either. I had no desire to. I found yours, I've read yours, and now the book will go on my shelf. Because I'm not a nice person. I might go back at some point, but let's be honest, I'm not going. [0:05:58]  Pastor Bill: To you spend $17 on a book. Why is it so high? Why is the price point so high? I don't understand. [0:06:10]  Pastor Newms: That's not that high for a book. [0:06:13]  Pastor Bill: Really? [0:06:14]  Pastor Newms: Yeah. That's moderate. [0:06:18]  Pastor Bill: What's up? How was your week, Pastor Newms? [0:06:23]  Pastor Newms: So my week was pretty good. We were actually sick. [0:06:33]  Pastor Bill: I'm sorry. [0:06:34]  Pastor Newms: Yeah, it was humorous because when you texted me on Sunday, I actually had laid down to take a nap, which is not unsurprising for a Sunday, because, let's be honest, I love naps, so it's not unlikely for me to take a nap. So I had laid down last weekend this week. So Thursday I worked half a day at work. Friday I took off completely, and then I was sick all the way through. I was sick from Thursday to Tuesday, which is why I didn't fight you on the because usually when you tell me you're like, we're not doing it tonight, I'm like, Why? I mean, it's just a football. I would have said. I was like, I'm going back to bed. I was like, fine with me. I don't want it tonight anyway. [0:07:41]  Pastor Bill: Cool. I'm tired. [0:07:42]  Pastor Newms: I don't feel good. [0:07:44]  Pastor Bill: Sounds good to me. [0:07:46]  Pastor Newms: And then Zaydiee had a work trip this week, so she was actually gone from Thursday till, like, an hour before. They had a team building, like, work retreat they do every year, a retreat for the people that work across the whole company. So the high school, the elementary school, both the ELCS the baby centers, the whole nine, the whole company. And so they were in Gatlinburg, actually, from Thursday until, like I said, like 2 hours ago, I got home like I was eating up until when we started. The pre-thing. The d

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Pastor Bill: [2:04] Hello and welcome to season four, episode four of The Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill and I am joined by Pastor Newms. As always, Newms, how are you doing?   Pastor Newms: [2:22] I'm good, sir. How are you today?   Pastor Bill: [2:24] I'm well tonight. I'm well. How was your Christmas break? We took two weeks off the podcast.   Pastor Newms: [2:30] We did. We were busy between the two of us. Days that you weren't busy. I was, days that you were busy. I wasn't. And it made it very. It's no big deal. It's the holidays. I mean, I actually texted Mom. I was like, Hey, make sure Biggs is on right on time tonight because I had something funny. And she was like, I didn't know you guys were going live tonight. I was like, That's true. It is the first. So the way it fell, you know, it's a little different, but it's good. It's good. I had pretty, pretty good things. I worked. A lot. I've only had I had last Friday and then Monday, and then I have Monday off. So it was three, four-day weeks in a row. But I didn't take any additional time this year because I didn't do any traveling, so I saved my vacation for later. So. And Biggs is saying that you did your office is something different that I'm not noticing?   Pastor Bill: [3:48] Um, I don't know. I mean, we did. It is a recent redo, and then we did take a couple of weeks off, so. Maybe it's just hitting different.   Pastor Newms: [3:59] Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. How was your holidays?   Pastor Bill: [4:05] All right, So. There were holidays. You know, my sister Natalie flew in from California with her husband, Luke. We haven't seen them in three years, so we got to go spend some time with them. That was fun and games and whatnot over at my mom's house.   Pastor Newms: [4:28] Did you guys get any bad ice or anything?   Pastor Bill: [4:28] Christmas at the mother-in-law's. We got some cold, but there was no bad ice.   Pastor Newms: [4:36] That’s good. There was snow on the ground near Christmas, but technically not a white Christmas this year. It was like.   Pastor Bill: [4:44] We got snow. But it didn't stick. So.   Pastor Newms: [4:49] And we had ice by the time it was Christmas.   Pastor Bill: [4:50] And then today. It was like 80 degrees with a nice breeze outside. I spent like 2 hours in the front yard laying on a comforter spread. Doing my last-minute study for tonight. Just enjoying the, you know, the nice temperatures.   Pastor Newms: [5:10] It's like sixties here now. Yeah. So.   Pastor Bill: [5:17] Cool. But as far as weeks go, it was just, you know, busy with a bunch of holidays.   Pastor Newms: [5:25] Yeah, I. I did something. I did something big in games, but not a huge deal outside of games. I completed the Pokédex for Scarlet Violet, minus one. Because you have to in order to get a tradable version of the legendary, you have to beat the game. And I haven't beaten Violet yet, so I don't have them right on. But I have every other Pokémon in my life decks. And so that was a thing that I did this week and then started playing a completely different game. So that was fun. Yeah, it was fun.   Pastor Bill: [6:06] Is the game called Your Chronicle?   Pastor Newms: [6:09] No, that's one of my idle games. Your Chronicle and idling to rule the gods are my two idol games that I play, so they're pretty much always up, and Discord just grabs whatever game was up last. I try to normally not play heavy. Lots of movement and sound games during.   Pastor Bill: [6:34] Service podcast.   Pastor Newms: [6:34] Sunday night. And yes, as Senior Poopie Bottom said, I, I did not know. Okay. So I just realized. Senior Poopy Bottom who Senior Poopy Bottom is. And I don't know if I knew who Senior Poopy Bottom was until just now.   Pastor Bill: [6:55] Who is a Senior Poopy Bottom? I do not know who it is. No.   Pastor Newms: [6:55] Have we talked about that? Senior Poopy Bottom. Did I know that you were Senior Poopy Bottom?   Pastor Bill: [7:05] Let the rest of us in on the secret, bro.   Pastor Newms: [7:08] Well, he's sitting on my couch, um, downstairs. Not. Not the dog right here. That'd be creepy.   Pastor Bill: [7:16] Not to judge the type.   Pastor Newms: [7:18] But that's actually. That's actually Mr. Groggy.   Pastor Bill: [7:24] That's Mr. Groggy. How many identities does that man have?   Pastor Newms: [7:25] Mr. Groggy. I don't know what I do. Oh. Well, that's why I was like, Wait a second. He was letting me play Violet. Yeah, I let him borrow Violet last week, which is why while he was borrowing Violet, I finished the Scarlet dex and then did a bunch of trades when he came in. You know, because he came to spend New Years with us, and we played Mortal Kombat 11 on the Switch all night till, like, one. And if she says anything, it's not true. Rayne did not beat me like four or five times in a row. That is fake news. If she tells you that it is, it is not true. Mm-hmm. I was not a happy person. She beat me so many times. Just over and over again. And. But anyway, it's. It's all good.   Pastor Bill: [8:31] So you got a venom thing? You showed us that. I got a pocket watch that I attached to a wristband. So I can just. Find.   Pastor Newms: [8:33] I did. Oh, that's. That's steampunk.   Pastor Bill: [8:48] So steampunk. I love it. It's great. So steampunk.   Pastor Newms: [8:48] It's so steampunk when you come out here to visit. There's this. And we decide to take everybody to Dollywood. There's down there in Gatlinburg, there's this place that is this thing that you do. I can't do it because it's. It's like 3D and stuff, but. The whole idea is that you're in the steampunk ship going around the world. And so, like in the gift shop, there's the steampunk hats and steampunk goggles. And I was like, Oh, Bill would love all this crap.   Pastor Bill: [9:26] Have to go just for the gift shop.   Pastor Newms: [9:28] Yeah, we will. We probably won't pay for everyone to do that because it's like, Yeah. That was part of the existing grandma. Gloria's Christmas to us was everything they paid for, for the girls you know how that is, with Six Flags often. And so it was like, oh no. And yes, because I do know how you felt all those times that I beat you now while my children beat me at games so. Mhm.   Pastor Bill: [10:00] The wheel of time turns.   Pastor Newms: [10:02] Yeah. Yeah.   Pastor Bill: [10:05] What else? I got money. I got some money. Um. A couple of shots, of Fireball.   Pastor Newms: [10:19] How's that? Okay. Okay.   Pastor Bill: [10:22] They sell those little bottles that are just a shot's worth.   Pastor Newms: [10:23] I. Yep. Now, I fully understand. It's just. That's an interesting Christmas present. I didn't. Didn't. Huh?   Pastor Bill: [10:32] That was one of my favorite stocking stuffers, actually.   Pastor Newms: [10:36] He. I can understand.   Pastor Bill: [10:41] So, you know.   Pastor Newms: [10:43] It's actually, the cinnamon is not that high in carbs. So.   Pastor Bill: [10:51] All right. And now it's time for Getting To Know The Pastors. Yep, it is. As I pack my deck. Now the. Yeah. Yeah.   Pastor Newms: [10:55] Is it your week? Yeah. Like a pack of cigarettes when neither of us smokes. Okay. That makes so much sense. Only. Hmm.   Pastor Bill: [11:07] Right. All right. Would you rather.   Pastor Newms: [11:11] I'm going to say something right now. If this card is terrible and we start the year off with an awful card out of your deck, I'm not going to be happy. Go. You did not just change the card.   Pastor Bill: [11:29] I'm thinking about it.   Pastor Newms: [11:39] Oh, man. Now just read it. Try to start the year off. Right.   Pastor Bill: [11:45] So. Yeah. It's starting off, right? I mean, come girl.   Pastor Newms: [11:56] Oh.   Pastor Bill: [11:59] Okay. I'm sorry. Would you rather. Be the best player on a horrible team or the worst player on a great team.   Pastor Newms: [12:14] See, that's really hard because here's the reason why I say that's really hard. So like, if you're the best player on the worst team. And you feel like you're. Like you're wasting your time and talents. And I take that from a team, sports or business. But if you're the worst, you're constantly worried you're about to get got. So. Oh, that's. That's rough. That one is rough. I prefer to be third on either side.   Pastor Bill: [12:58] I prefer just not to do team things. But just. Yeah.   Pastor Newms: [13:02] I prefer to be like the third or fourth smartest person in a room and the most efficient person in a room. And like the. Unless you get traded a week before the Super Bowl. Um.   Pastor Bill: [13:17] Oh, yeah, that would stink.   Pastor Newms: [13:20] But Biggs. So Biggs says the worst on a good team. Um, I. Oh, I would have to say probably. Think if I actually had the answer, I would say. I don't want to ever be the best because it just feels. Even being mediocrely above the medium feels terrible when you're doing when you feel like you're doing more than others.   Pastor Bill: [13:52] If I was the best, I'd always be worried about eighties montages. It's like if you didn't suddenly be like. You're the best around. And I'd be like, Oh, crap. I'm in a montage.   Pastor Newms: [13:57] She's not us. 30-second buffer, 30-second buffer, 30-second buffer, Pastor Bill started. Singing 80 songs. Hmm. For those of you who don't get that joke, come join us live. And you will. Oh, yes. So but you got to choose which one? Which one would you truly choose? I prefer to just be middle, but. I think I agree with Biggs.   Pastor Bill: [14:45] The worst.   Pastor Newms: [14:46] Yeah, I think it's just I think being the best at anything at any moment is just would be infuriating. Like, if you were.   Pastor Bill: [14:52] The worst on the team, I mean.   Pastor Newms: [14:54] Because if you're the best on a bad team, I mean, if you're like, yeah, if

Pastor Bill: [0:00] Hello and welcome to season 4 episode 3 of The Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian I'm Pastor Bill and I'm joined as always by Pastor Newms. Pastor Newms: [0:15] Hola. Pastor Bill: [0:17] How are you senior Pastor Newms?  Took a nap and it made you happy. Pastor Newms: [0:34] I did, I took a nap had some weird dreams though. Pastor Bill: [0:38] Does a nap that made you happy, is it thereby defined as a nappy?  You took a nappy. Pastor Newms: [0:46] No, a nappy is something you put on a baby's butt. Pastor Bill: [0:51] Ah it's also a certain classification of dirty greasy hair. Pastor Newms: [0:58] That's spelled differently. Pastor Bill: [1:00] How is it?  How is that spelt? Pastor Newms: [1:02] I don't know, but I know it's spelled differently. Pastor Bill: [1:04] Okay okay well that's neither here nor there I don't know I don't know. Pastor Newms: [1:10] I don't know, I don't even have any hair. Pastor Bill: [1:15] Well you have, you got some you got the beard. Pastor Newms: [1:18] That's not the same kind of hair. Pastor Bill: [1:18] And you've got the chest hair. Pastor Newms: [1:22] I have no chest hair you can't prove it. Pastor Bill: [1:25] And you've got the back here. Pastor Newms: [1:27] You can't prove that either. Pastor Bill: [1:29] But not as much as there was this guy that I was in the internship with at Teen Mania. You know in that first when you first get there, you're you sleep out in the Quonset Huts like the long you know just long dome-tinted room with bunk beds. You're all using these communal showers one shower for the men one shower for the women this dude is so hairy on his chest and back that he looked like he was wearing a sweater vest, he even had it cut into a v in the front and then he had a cross shaved into the back. Pastor Newms: [2:12] That's a look - okay. Pastor Bill: [2:17] But that was crazy like he could be shirtless and from a distance, you'd swear he had a sweater vest on because it did the whole around here by the arms and then he had it a v-neck cut into the front of it, to make it look like a V, what's up Sarafina you gonna join us tonight, a v cut in the front there it was crazy good guy great guy really yeah it was weird, yeah, so how was your week Pastor Newms? Pastor Newms: [2:54] My week was. Pastor Bill: [2:57] My way. Pastor Newms: [2:59] It was. Pastor Bill: [3:01] My week was a very week. Pastor Newms: [3:05] It was pretty good I um… Was you know, busy at work.  It's the end of the year and my job tends to get a little crazy towards the end of the year so. Pastor Bill: [3:18] Yeah I was editing the transcript this week and you were saying you guys actually got busier in December which is the antithesis of how it goes. Pastor Newms: [3:28] Antithesis to. Pastor Bill: [3:30] In medical Tech. Pastor Newms: [3:32] Every tech company I've ever worked at except for this one, but that's okay. You know, everyone has a different business model. We try to get a lot of stuff done at the end of the year and at the first of the year too. Bring more clients on right at the beginning and end and that is the business model they have chosen and that is all I will say about that, but yes. Pastor Bill: [4:00] What trips me up in the nonprofit sector was always ending the year in August. Pastor Newms: [4:12] The fiscal year. Pastor Bill: [4:13] Yeah the fiscal year, is like it always just messes with my mind, ending the fiscal year in August and it not corresponding with the daily calendar and oh man. Wal Mart, right and then didn't they did the week's Week 1 week 2 week and you had to know, as a merchandising supervisor, you had to know what week you were in. Pastor Newms: [4:45] You did and it did not correspond to the calendar. Pastor Bill: [4:48] And it did not correspond to the calendar and you if you look at the calendar you went okay what week of the year is it that did not correspond with what merchandise week, it is in the numbers, you had to know and then you had to know what end caps were set for that week and the next week and what you could put together and then sometimes they would just leave you big holes in your department in electronics and they were like, “Just fill it with something…” and you're like, I have a hard enough time getting my general manager to approve orders on the things that are actually supposed to be there, that Walmart says they're supposed to be there I'm not going to get him to order me extra stuff for an empty spot, on my floor, that's not gonna so. Pastor Newms: [5:37] Well let's be honest you were at probably the worst Walmart that I've ever seen. Pastor Bill: [5:44] That's what I hear but it's the only WalMart I've ever worked at. So I don't really have anything to compare it to so. Pastor Newms: [5:51] Oh yeah Biggs stated the Nissan year starts in April because they follow the Japanese year not the calendar year also. Pastor Bill: [6:04] We'll see at least that makes sense. Like that's the cultural calendar from where the company exists there's some logic to that. Pastor Newms: [6:14] It does make more sense than some others will the fiscal year. Pastor Bill: [6:18] And just making up your own calendar. Pastor Newms: [6:21] The fiscal year for retail makes sense too because you want to capture what money you lose to returns in January from Christmas. So that way you actually know what your fiscal year is or if you don't do that, what happens is the first month of your year is - and you, terrible for the year starting off and it hurts because you're years starting - and you spend the rest of the year trying to catch up as opposed to technically that revenue was captured in December and then lost in January. So it's it, that's the reason they do it and it makes sense from a. The way they fiscally are doing it so that way because it is technically lost from the Christmas sales so because of that it balances out so it works pretty well. My week's been pretty good, we also did today the church we visited. This is the third time we visited them, we actually took the girls and they have a full one of their ministries is a theater company. Not like, oh we have drama we do or not you know, hey, we have no but they actually have like a theater where they sell tickets throughout the year and it's a full production and tryouts and it's a full thing, box you know they have the you can order the whole years’ worth of stuff and go to all of them and they were doing Christmas Carol for Christmas which is logical. So they put on, for morning service they put on their Christmas Carol and then, so we got to see that for free. what other people had to pay for it that always makes me feel special love free things and then they had a church-wide Christmas party thing afterwards, where there was like everyone brought desserts and so there was a huge dessert bar and, just people just lots of people just people. Pastor Bill: [8:36] People being people in. Pastor Newms: [8:37] And so we sat with the co-worker that Tina has that is her friend. During that so that was good and just overall you know trying to, figure everything out there it's pretty cool place I think but still, you know checking it out. But yeah, so that was kind of cool and then last night we did our first night of our family celebration of Yule which was fun. You should be getting a picture of that from your present. So that's good we'll be doing that for the next eleven nights, until the solstice for Sez in his celebration as well. So that's good. The fire pit was a success, the one I ordered worked very well. We enjoyed it and everyone, most of the family, enjoys the Yule cake that I made. It's a cranberry-based cake so if you don't like cranberries, it's hard to enjoy a cranberry cake if you don't like cranberries like myself but. Pastor Bill: [10:09] I like cranberry, sauce. Pastor Newms: [10:11] No, so this is actually a, it's an old recipe that it's also called Christmas cake sometimes of course because you know dear people love to borrow things from other. Pastor Bill: [10:23] Appropriate. Pastor Newms: [10:24] Yeah we'll use that word. Pastor Bill: [10:27] That's what it is. Its appropriation. Pastor Newms: [10:28] It is it's also theft but that's okay that's what appropriation is, theft of culture. Pastor Bill: [10:34] Appropriation is theft. Pastor Newms: [10:36] Yeah. Pastor Bill: [10:37] It's different there's appreciation which is, taking something and going hey this is a Yule cake, and we're going to enjoy it at Christmas, that's appreciation, then there's appropriation where you go, hey there's your cakes really good but I'm gonna change the name and pretend like it doesn't have some historical meaning attached to it. Pastor Newms: [11:21] Three eggs and then, cranberries and so it's super simple it's nice and crumbly and traditionally you kind of leave it out. You don't like put it in the fridge or put it in the and by the end of Yule it gets a little harder and so it's almost like a bar by the end. The one I made is not going to last to the end of Yule I've already planned on buying more ingredients and making another because I wanted the Cranberries to be semi-fresh so I don't want to or buy them. Pastor Bill: [11:57] Isn't part of the point for it to last and become a hardy you know through that you can continue to eat in the cold. Pastor Newms: [12:06] That is the point of it, but Groggy is here this weekend which means. Pastor Bill: [12:13] It’s not going to last. Pastor Newms: [12:13] 7 people in the house. Last night, and even cutting them in like 1 by 1 squares a 13 by 9 only has so many squares in it so, I'm pretty sure it ain't going. Pastor Bill: [12:32] I would imagine the 13 by 9 only has 13 squares across and 9 squares. Pastor Newms: [12:38] That's if I actually measured and did inch squares which you know me, I didn't measure, and they are bigger than a one-by-one. Pastor Bill: [12:47] Those were two-inch squares easily. Pastor Newms: [12:51] If - because it was just knife carving knife you know. But it was good, fire and stuff which is fun I like fire I've limited the amount of wood we bought. We only bought you know a little b

Pastor Bill: [0:00] Hello and welcome to season 4 episode 2 of the Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian.  I'm Pastor Bill and I'm joined by Pastor Newms.  How are you Pastor Newms? Pastor Newms: [0:15] I'm good how are you doing. Pastor Bill: [0:21] I'm doing alright.  My sinuses are all out of whack still, so I've got a lot of drainage and having a lot of issues with that but.  Coughing and what not so I'm on a lot of antihistamines, and some Afrin, and lots of cough drops so.  So how was your week? Pastor Newms: [0:46] I'm sorry to hear that um is probably the best I can um so.  My week?  My week was okay I worked a lot. , Pastor Bill: [1:09] No I'm sorry to hear that. Pastor Newms: [1:11] Yeah I worked a lot.  And so that was that was you know it is what it is trying to get, we got a lot of projects and for some reason people are wanting them all done at the end of the year which is odd for software, but it is what it is.  Usually in most software companies December is pretty much non-existent but in this particular healthcare company, we busy.  It's like we're busier than we were two months ago busy, and that's weird for December but you know it is what it is.  So I worked a lot.  I picked up the Pokemon game again and started playing it some, the new Pokemon Scarlet played some Space Engineers. Pastor Bill: [2:02] Phoenix when could I not see your communications? Phoenix on Twitch says “Can Bill now see my communications?”  Could I not see your Communications before? Pastor Newms: [2:15] Confused by her question did you say hello and welcome already so no. Pastor Bill: [2:26] Okay so I saw the nerdy smiley face came through but that just says Fina we 656 raid run teeny-weeny 656 hula. Pastor Newms: [2:41] Yeah no.  So he can't get emojis correctly because he's looking at it through the Discord interface not the Twitch interface.  So no, Emojis and do not come through. Pastor Bill: [2:57] So regular smiles like the nerdy smile. Pastor Newms: [3:01] Well even those sometimes come through because it depends on if Twitch has done something different with them even though they look like a regular smiley face on Twitch side they don't always come across correctly so it was. Pastor Bill: [3:17] Three celebrating smile faces. Pastor Newms: [3:19] It was like the birthday ones with the funny hats, so it was good that that you know work was work, I work a lot of hours and then.  I think that was it I don't think I did a lot how was your week? Pastor Bill: [4:05] My week was all right.  Focused on doing some writing.  Did some flash fiction writing, entered a few writing contest to just sharpen my skills a little bit so that was fun had that going this week and then there was the local Christmas parade was yesterday.  And I don't understand how it can be 50 degrees and feel, literally feel like it's freezing outside while you're sitting there watching a parade that makes no sense to me.  But it did, and my feet were so cold, and my hands were numb, and I was like it's only 50 degrees. Pastor Newms: [4:55] I'm sorry, I did get asked.  So did I tell the funny story; about the first time we visited this church that we visited a second time on here? Pastor Bill: [5:16] I don't know did you? Pastor Newms: [5:17] I don't remember, about the jacket.  I don't think I did okay so you know we talk a lot on The Berean Manifesto that that life is about doing not just…like life should be done, life should not be just hanging out you should actually be doing not just saying that's where I'm trying to go.  Who am I brain I worked a lot of hours you should be doing not just saying and, and so when you go to a church you go to a thing or you do a thing you always hope people are going to show actions more than they're going to say actions so that's always our hope well so we go to visit this church this has been this was the week before we took the vacation to Dollywood so it was the week before the week before Thanksgiving so I don't know the second week of November so it's been several weeks ago in between our visits. And so we, we go and, you know it's like 38-39 right and so everyone is bundled up because they're cold.  I I'm not cold cuz it's only 30s it's not in the 20s it's the 30s it's not that cold we're walking from the car to the place, it's not that cool so, and so I left my jacket in the car because I didn't want to put it on put it off put it on put it up for them but you always take it in the car in case you get a flat tire or something you've changed a tire because if you're out in the rain and. Pastor Bill: [7:30] Right exactly. Pastor Newms: [7:32] There's a valid reason to have a jacket with you but I don't wear it when I'm going into the stores and going into play.  And so I left my jacket in the car we went in, and we're in the back of course shocking and we're sitting there and this person comes up to me and genuinely looks at me and goes do you need a coat like, general not like the hat you don't even have a jacket on but like, like actually at he's like if you need a jacket we can get you one like if you're if you're cold if you're you know you can have this jacket right here I've got extras at home blah blah blah and I'm like oh no I'm just not cold and he kind of looked at me like uh huh, and then looked over at Tina and I was like okay sorry, sorry my jackets in the car I don't wear it till it's like in the 20s.  I have a leather jacket I've got sweat shirts at home I've got suit jackets I had my own jackets I just don't wear them oh okay okay we just wanted I wanted to make sure you had a jacket which is amazing from a standpoint of he's legitimately trying to give me the jacket off his back.  First off second off really funny interaction because like you could tell he didn't believe me for schnot like he was like uh-huh I'm sure you don't need a jacket looking at Tina like this man need a jacket you know did you bring this man in with you and he needs it you know and pour Zayidee is like no no. Pastor Bill: [9:20] Did you find this man out on the street? Pastor Newms: [9:22] Yeah are you bringing this homeless man in this place and he needs a you know.  And so is this one of those funny moments of you know legitimate church trying to be, what church is supposed to be.  It's a decent it's a decent place we think we're going to try it again we've been twice now and we're going to continue going so far at least for a little while. Pastor Bill: [9:51] So far so good. Pastor Newms: [9:53] So far so good yeah we enjoy it so far how was. Pastor Bill: [9:56] All right well now it's time for. Pastor Newms: [9:58] We talked about your week. Pastor Bill: [10:00] We talked about my week so now it's time for getting to know the pastors. Pastor Newms: [10:02] You know the worst part about this you would think listening to how I've been both last weekend this week in our in our opening you would think like I'm doing a thousand other things, yes someone else did ask today not as forcefully if I needed a jacket, he wasn't as forceful as the other person because he could he was in the he was like the door opener so you'd see in the car I parked in so he assumed I could have gotten one if I won like he at least was that he's like do you have a jacket like are you good luck but like on the same token like.  It's kind of a nice car, that I'm able to lease because my father Biggs is an amazing person and works for Nissan so I'm driving a much nicer car than I would ever be able to normally let's be clear and so I'm like, all right it's it is funny they are they are super they are super nice, is it my card or is it your card, all right I didn't so you're in the part of the screen I can't see cuz you're behind me so I didn't realize you were even holding a card and you were like nope my card and it popped up above my head which is just. Pastor Bill: [11:28] Would you rather go 30 days without your phone or your entire life without dessert? Pastor Newms: [11:53] Is it one of those like if I eat a dessert ever I then lose my phone or would I literally not be able to get a dessert ever. Pastor Bill: [12:04] You have to decide now and then you can literally never get a dessert. Pastor Newms: [12:08] So if I try to reach for a desert my body would not let me. Pastor Bill: [12:14] No your hand would just disappear the closer it got to the desert and as you pulled away your hand would reappear.  You can't even touch the desert. Pastor Newms: [12:23] Can't even touch the desert that's what I - that's the one I want because my waistline, my waistline agrees with that one and that's not because I'm addicted to my phone that's legitimately weight loss right there man if I literally couldn't reach the cookie do you know how happy my daughters would be if I could not eat, or steal their cookies and Candy my daughters would lose their minds if if they did not if there was no chance of me stealing their cookies they would love that and, like I mentioned so would my waistline and my arthritis, I don't eat a lot of sweets but I would love if I couldn't, that would just be. Pastor Bill: [13:15] I am straight-up addicted to my phone, if I find myself in a room and I've left my phone in the other room I have to go back and find it. Pastor Newms: [13:24] I'm not addicted to my phone. In most situations there are certain situations. Pastor Bill: [13:41] When you're going number two. Pastor Newms: [13:43] Yeah I if I forget my phone I will ask someone to bring it to me you know it's one of those where it’s like. Pastor Bill: [13:57] I think that's just a given for most people. Pastor Newms: [13:59] But often for those of you who know me.  I will straight have no idea where my phone is even located.  I'll be like, I don't know, I don't know where it is I don't know I don't know people call me like most of my family members Biggs, Phoenix, you says everyone knows just send him a Discord message he will not see that text message you're about to send him he's not going to see it he's not going to se

Pastor Bill: [0:02] Hello and welcome to season 4 episode 1 of the Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian.  Can you believe, Pastor Newms, that we're starting season four tonight?  That's insane, given 100 episodes per season.  I can't even wrap my mind around all that content. Pastor Newms: [0:35] I can't wrap my head around the fact that we have done it.  No I am. Pastor Bill: [0:41] It's a little bonkers. Pastor Newms: [0:44] Yeah it definitely is the bonkers. Pastor Bill: [0:49] So here we are.  So how was your week Pastor Newms? Pastor Newms: [1:02] Yeah, it was… it was pretty good.  I’m trying to think if I did anything.  I don't think I did anything special.  I mean other than you know we did do some Thanksgiving stuff, but I don't think I actually did anything special.  Why are you leaning in like that. Pastor Bill: [1:37] What are you talking about I'm sitting back. Pastor Newms: [1:39] I can see you. Pastor Bill: [1:41] Yeah I'm sitting back. Pastor Newms: [1:44] I don’t think you understand what sitting back means. Pastor Bill: [1:49] This is, this is sitting back this is what sitting back looks like. Pastor Newms: [1:53] It really isn't. Pastor Bill: [2:00] I'm even leaning back in my chair like if I set my chair up straight I'd be like this. Pastor Newms: [2:09] Really now for a second you weren't. Pastor Bill: [2:18] So how was your week Pastor Bill?  Well let me tell you.  My public school kids were out for the week because of Thanksgiving break which was nice because we have puppy.  And puppy wakes me up every few hours to go potty every night and I was able to get the Gerg… Who by the way, is a half-inch taller than me now.  Unacceptable!  So Gerg was so gracious as to listen for the dog every night on his Thanksgiving break and take care of walking the dog so that I could sleep on those nights.  Which is amazing. Pastor Newms: He is, he is. Pastor Bill: [3:09] It's just amazing.  Like I can't even express how much that meant to me to be able to catch up on that sleep while he's been here.  And then we celebrated Thanksgiving as a family.  Just our immediate family, just here in the house because Roxanne had covid-19 at the end of last week the beginning of this week and then she had a negative test on Wednesday.  But we just wanted to be overly cautious to make sure we weren’t going to spread anything to anybody on Thursday so we stayed home.  Then Friday we knew that my mother and her husband, Grams and Gramps, they already had covid a couple weeks ago.  So we went ahead and went over there to decorate their house for Christmas, and then my kids stayed there over the weekend so that my wife and I could celebrate our 17th anniversary wedding anniversary.  Truly the date is this coming… Thursday is the actual wedding anniversary date but we went ahead and celebrated it this last weekend because.  You know when Grandma offers to take the kids for the weekend right before your anniversary you jump on that. Pastor Newms: [4:28] Well yeah I mean definitely.  HG Supply Company? Pastor Bill: [4:40] Yeah it's like, it's like a vegan restaurant but like they did the thing where they change out their menu often to try different things.  Anyway it was pretty good and I put it in the reservation that we were celebrating our 17th anniversary together.  We told them we were here that the guy working the hostess booth said, “Happy Anniversary” and I was like awesome they got my note that'll be the end of it that's all they're going to do.  No, we got to the table and our server was like here's a card for your anniversary we had all the servers sign it, and the managers pouring you a celebratory toast of champagne right now and she's going to bring that over for you.  On us.  We did that and then at the end they were like and we're also comping your Gelato dessert there as part of your anniversary celebration so happy anniversary guys we were like, so nice. Pastor Newms: [5:55] It is nice. Pastor Bill: [5:57] Yeah so we had this spicy queso. As our appetizer but it was vegan there was no cheese in it, but it tasted like cheese but it was like chickpeas and I don't know those other stuff that made had he had the consistency of queso it tasted like queso but it wasn't cheese.  Yeah what's that. Pastor Newms: [6:35] The yeah no I don't like that. Pastor Bill: [6:44] Now you don't like that hey if it ain't going to kill me and it tastes right.  I mean if they could make tofu. You know by like a burger I don't care if it's actually tofu as long as my tongue thinks it's a burger and it feels like a burger on my teeth. Pastor Newms: [7:13] I don't like that. Pastor Bill: [7:15] Unless you want to charge me nine dollars for two patties like the Beyond Burger stuff that then doesn't even taste like Burger.  Alright who's night is it to pull a card?  Time for ‘Getting to know the pastors.’ Pastor Newms: [7:52] It's my night I'm working on it I'm worried. Pastor Bill: [7:57] Biggs on Twitch says, “Where's the beef?” Pastor Newms: [8:00] Where is the beef okay okay. Pastor Bill: [8:08] I've got no beef with vegans if you want to live your life that way cool. Pastor Newms: [8:13] I don't care just don't try to force me.  That's my thing it's similar to religion.  Don't force anything upon anyone else please all right.  If you could take any job for just one month what job would you like to have assumed you would have all the skills and knowledge to perform the job adequately so you have all the ability to perform any job, what would you want? Pastor Bill: [8:44] All of the ability.  To perform any job?. Pastor Newms: [8:51] Biggs wants to be a pilot. Pastor Bill: [8:55] What's my motivation? Pastor Newms: [8:58] The fact that you could do anything.  So the funness of being able to do anything. Pastor Bill: [9:13] No thank you. Pastor Newms: [9:16] No thank you?  You don't want any job in the world. Pastor Bill: [9:21] I mean not really.  Not just for the sake of having the job. Pastor Newms: [9:26] But you get to do whatever you want for a month you don't have anything you would like to do for a month. Pastor Bill: [9:38] Not particularly no. Pastor Newms: [9:40] Okay okay. Pastor Bill: [9:48] I mean first of all it's just a month it's not like a career it's not your whole life and second like what's motivating you I don't. You said fun or or to get the you know you can do it for do it I don't care about that work it's for money and I don't.  What about you Pastor Newms?  You seem super distracted this evening bro. Pastor Newms: [10:26] No I'm just thinking. I got a lot on my mind.  I don't know I think if I could have any job in the world for a for a short amount of time it would probably be I'd have all the skills, so I would like to be, you know something maybe a CEO just to get the taste and then know it's going to end in them in a little month so I don't have it forever but yet make the money for the month. That's where my mind is is the the money aspect. Pastor Bill: [11:34] Okay well let's break it down alright so my first instinct before you said for a month, was President.  And then my mind immediately went to the moment you're done with that job at the end of four years or eight years or thirty days.  Any good that you did it's just going to be undone by the next guy.  So what would be the point. Pastor Newms: [12:08] Yeah I mean that's one of those things that is something you have to consider.  That it would just poof away.  And I get that my mind was straight to money how much money can I make in a month I mean it's a month. Pastor Bill: [12:45] Yeah but then my mind goes that's only a month's worth of pay that's not going to actually do much for my life after that for very long. Pastor Newms: [12:55] Depending on the job. Pastor Bill: [12:56] And go away and I'm just going to get back to where I was before. Pastor Newms: [12:59] It would but you know. Pastor Bill: [13:02] Did you say get another job did you seriously just say to the person who's been searching for a job for seven years you. Pastor Newms: [13:17] I said nothing. Pastor Bill: [13:19] I could have swore you said just get another job. Pastor Newms: [13:22] No no. Pastor Bill: [13:23] For after the end of the month as a CEO and I was like it ain't that easy bro. Pastor Newms: [13:28] I said depends on the money I mean if you're talking about a CEO of a five million dollar a year salary a month, would change either of our Lives exponentially. Pastor Bill: [13:43] Biggs is over here on Twitch telling on me, “Bill would not take the oath.”  You're not wrong, I don't believe in swearing an oath so you're not wrong.  I don't qualify to serve as President.  I don't qualify to serve in politics because I don't believe it's… I believe it's a violation of my religious beliefs to swear an oath. Pastor Newms: [14:17] But he did he did tell on you straight up yeah he's straight. Pastor Bill: [14:20] Straight up like pulling it out like no yeah he says he I do listen.  You do you do listen you listen to you listen yeah.  All right so season 4 episode 1. Pastor Newms: [14:38] Yep. Pastor Bill: [14:41] In the beginning, and that's exactly what we're going to do we're going to go and talk about Genesis for a little bit. And then we're going to start looking at Genesis 1:1 and we're going to break it down word by word.  Not because I think it was translated wrong and not because I think that it is some revelation you know revolutionary thing that you can see there but simply for the fact that it is written in a poetic style.  And so each of these words has so much depth to them that when you just read Genesis 1:1 CSB, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.”  That is so dry and shallow compared to the words that are actually there, in this poetic telling right first off let's talk a little bit about Genesis because Genesis gets a lot of flack from I don't even know what to call t

S3Ep100 - Looking Back As We Move Pastor Bill And Pastor Newms  Transcript Pastor Bill: [0:00] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 100 of the breed Manifesto faith hope and love but the modern Christian, my best to build I'm joined as always by Pastor newms other Corner pastor newms, see what I'm looking at the screen no you're over here at then wait no you're over here. Where did bills hair go what do you mean where did my hair go my hairs right here here here. Pastor Newms: [0:36] So when you're sitting the way you're sitting we can't see the top of your head. Pastor Bill: [0:42] Yeah I don't know why if I guess if I move way back. Pastor Newms: [0:46] Now you have to move the microphone properly you can't move your camera up because of your thing he's right. Pastor Bill: [0:54] Yeah there's stuff you see the clips holding this this drop cloth off and stuff like that. Pastor Newms: [1:12] Yeah see end of season three I think that means we each have to do four cards right is that what that means. Pastor Bill: [1:18] Oh my gosh no please no. So we started this podcast in 2017. [1:36] Yeah I would I would release an episode and then we would talk about it in our life meeting you know we would talk about you know the. Pastor Newms: [1:42] Yep. Pastor Bill: [1:44] Back then I was actually doing an episode of day for a while and that's be too much it was too much too much to do too much to talk about, and so we went to one episode a week and here we are now, we did 100 episodes in season 1 100 episodes in season 2 and now one of the episodes on season 3, and then we had that one Easter sets. [2:16] With that one Easter set where I did a whole week of episodes where I typed them episode I don't know season 1 episode 65 point 1.2.3.4 for the whole week so, so you know yeah so we're we're past 300 episodes for sure but here we are so, yeah so tonight we're gonna we're gonna sound too far away uman Mike a little bit more how's that is that better. Pastor Newms: [2:46] Um yeah I'll turn you up a little more. Pastor Bill: [2:49] Sound like I'm up so far away now. Pastor Newms: [2:51] I turned you up a little too I tried to fix it beforehand but I guess I did not fix it. Pastor Bill: [2:58] Okay my bad sorry is 80 we didn't mean to not have good microphone settings before we started. Pastor Newms: [3:05] Plus your sinus infection makes it sound like you're far away even though I can hear you clearly you're so lucky. Pastor Bill: [3:09] Yeah massage it's wreaking havoc with my brain with my face. Pastor Newms: [3:15] Back here all the way through all of your nasal cavities don't do that. Pastor Bill: [3:21] Robin I've been doing a lot of sleeping trying to catch up to make the sinus infection better yeah that's what I'm sick with the flu and that just that knocks me out 100 percent perlite, so we can have two weeks and then this time it's I know it's a science infection I can actually feel it, you know and then when my immune system tries to fight something that affects my whole body my whole body starts to act like I've got a fever even when I don't, I have a fever so I get all the eggs in the pains and the that weird stuff so, and then I'm so susceptible to medicines like, so I started taking acetaminophen and ibuprofen because that's a really good mixture you know but then I'm so susceptible to medications that, yeah. Pastor Newms: [4:14] You at night for a while. Pastor Bill: [4:17] Well well I sleep in the nude right and. Pastor Newms: [4:19] It's too much information but thank you. Pastor Bill: [4:22] Well hold on hold on this morning I remember here in the puppy whining I remember looking out the window and seeing there were sunlight and I remember looking at my phone, 7:33 and then the next thing I knew I was sitting on the couch fully dressed and it was several hours later I had an unopened monster sitting next to me and I was holding the puppy and I was like, I think I took too much cinnamon often and ibuprofen because I have no idea how I got out here and and I don't remember putting on clothes. Pastor Newms: [4:53] Well at least. Pastor Bill: [4:54] I left her at least I put on clothes before I win. Pastor Newms: [4:56] Exactly exactly at least you did the right steps and you didn't just you know you do live in the country but. Pastor Bill: [5:05] That you have blood you have children. Pastor Newms: [5:07] Right so you don't want to be standing out on your porch with your grandma across the street waving just everything waving you know just. Pastor Bill: [5:18] So maybe I need a dial back up just just a bit on the administer this sort of benefit and ibuprofen mixture because because I'm pretty sure acceptable to, the case that didn't number. Pastor Newms: [5:41] There it is that box yep the Box you have no recollection of actually purchasing. Pastor Bill: [5:47] Box I have no red but you were there you remember it so I highly at least then at least there I have you know. Pastor Newms: [5:49] I do remember it I fully remember. Pastor Bill: [5:55] For evidence of what happens because you were there. Pastor Newms: [5:57] Let me show you this cool little shop that I go to that you've never been to and then next thing I know we're it's the next day and you're going we're just Box come from. Pastor Bill: [6:09] This is where I keep all the love notes my wife wrote me while we were dating. In that box right there. Pastor Newms: [6:21] Nope don't put it there then we can't see Jessie. Pastor Bill: [6:23] Your face is covering that whole part of my desk so they can't see Jesse anyway. Pastor Newms: [6:29] Oh yeah we'll still move it slightly over because I can't see Jesse thank you. Pastor Bill: [6:36] Move you can see Jesse. Pastor Newms: [6:39] Selfish but hey deal with it y'all. Pastor Bill: [6:44] I keep three pictures of people in my bedroom I keep Jesse my father-in-law I keep a picture of my grandmother right up there and I keep a picture of my mom over there and that's it that's all I got as far as pictures, anyway yeah so, how was your week pastor newms. Pastor Newms: [7:15] I worked for days and then part of the fifth day but we were technically close as a company. Pastor Bill: [7:26] Closed for Veterans Day. Well I can't play games right now, so there's that. Pastor Newms: [7:55] Do we have an ETA on your computer. Pastor Bill: [7:59] No they sent me a list of parts they wanted me to buy and then they're going to do the labor putting it all together but I have to go get the part. Pastor Newms: [8:11] Amazon is your friend. Pastor Bill: [8:14] Yeah they sent me a on links. Pastor Newms: [8:16] Or I could send you a different link to another company that can actually compare it's called PC part picker it's what we typically use. Pastor Bill: [8:24] Is he part picker. Pastor Newms: [8:37] Aspects and then I buy the parts and. Pastor Bill: [8:44] Imagine if your name was Peter Piper and you worked for a PC company called part picker. [9:00] So my week was you know this this nonsense. Pastor Newms: [9:04] Aha. Pastor Bill: [9:05] This infection nonsense the puppies doing great driving me nuts at night one to go out that's expected when you're housebreaking a puppy. Pastor Newms: [9:22] Better him waking you up than him not waking you up her her. Pastor Bill: [9:27] We've got it yeah her we've got her in this kennel and she doesn't absolutely hate it so that's good, during the day the other day it was the middle of the day and she wanted to go out and instead of going to the door and she hasn't quite figured that out yet she went to her kennel, and got into her kennel and started yapping and when I went over there she started doing Tippy Toe tippy toes, and I put the collar higher you know the thing on her we went outside and she went to use the restroom she she went to the kennel to let me know she needed to go outside so that was kind of funny. Pastor Newms: [10:04] That's fine so Kaiju you know all of her 60 found Pound gloriousness, everyone can be downstairs on the couch watching a TV both her mama's so my sister and my wife downstairs on the couch watching something she will come, upstairs and bark at me and it's like what do you need, and she has me go to the stairs and yelled down someone please let Kai out and she'll go out as opposed to just telling them so puppies are weird, I thought that would change when I moved my office upstairs because she used to do what my office was downstairs thought it would change it hasn't she still comes and tells. Pastor Bill: [10:55] It's like man I'm just gonna go find you. Pastor Newms: [10:57] Yeah, which is really funny she does the same thing when both me and her mom might my sister who we both had their lives upstairs and she will. Come into my office from the bedroom to tell me she needs to go out and it's like. Pastor Bill: [11:23] You're like you were just in the bedroom with a human being. Pastor Newms: [11:26] Yeah yeah why does daddy have to be the one yeah. Here we go my favorite segments. Pastor Bill: [11:42] You ready your favorite segments in the whole wide world. Pastor Newms: [11:44] With my most hated cards. Pastor Bill: [11:47] What's the cheesiest movie moment or line you can think of. [12:17] Question was what's the cheesiest movie moment or line you can think of. [12:42] So what pops into my head immediately you know without doing much searching or trying to think about it would be the anal but monkey from Bruce Almighty. Pastor Newms: [12:52] I do. Pastor Bill: [12:54] That's some super cheesy stuff right there. Pastor Newms: [12:56] I don't remember that. Pastor Bill: [12:58] You don't remember that. It's the gangsters and they're like we're going to mess you up bottle and he's like. Pastor Newms: [13:12] I don't know zadie says if you're a bird I'm a bird which I have no idea what that's from. Pastor Bill: [13:20] Me either. Pastor Newms: [13:21] Phoenix says you had me at hello that one is pretty cheesy oh it's from The Notebook that's a movie. [13:39] We don't need no badges from bigs that that works. Pastor Bill: [13:44] We don't need no stinking badges. Pastor Newms: [13:46] I can think of one and I'm just going to say part of it and it's just dingdong and that that's

33E97 State Of Theology Part 3 Pastor Bill And Pastor Newms  Transcript Pastor Newms: [0:09] Church intro video Church intro video because it appears that it finally. Pastor Bill: [0:15] Intro video Church intro video if I only worked. Pastor Newms: [0:21] Looks like it but it's only for twitch we are only live on Twitch. Pastor Bill: [0:27] We're only live on Twitch all right. Pastor Newms: [0:36] I don't know I don't know how anything is going to be, because we're optimized for restream we're not optimized to go straight to Twitch so I would assume that's okay but. Pastor Bill: [0:56] That's hilarious. Pastor Newms: [0:59] So restream is having issues tonight. Hopefully that does not spell the end of restream there's been rumors a couple times that it was going away hopefully this isn't the time that happens. [1:21] Is some streaming platforms do not like them and have talked about banning them so. Pastor Bill: [1:30] Mmm. Pastor Newms: [1:37] Be interesting to see it's probably just a glitch with their servers tonight but that's neither here nor there so you're going to have to talk directly on Twitch do you have, it opened on a device. Pastor Bill: [1:55] I I do now yeah so I need to talk on Twitch instead of on Discord. Pastor Newms: [2:03] It won't pull it I don't think because the restream bot isn't running. Pastor Bill: [2:12] Okay okay okay on me. [2:38] Hey really really suck. Pastor Newms: [3:02] Do do do do do. [3:33] Where does it say to viewers two people are viewing. Do you know who don't know don't know. Pastor Bill: [3:46] I think one of those is me. Pastor Newms: [3:48] Don't know anything probably zaydis here. Pastor Bill: [3:53] Daddy's here. [3:58] Um Pastor Newms: [4:02] Yeah Grayson life is a little interesting we're doing church tonight and I sent messages to some people and, I forgot about you I love you though I just forgot to send you a message saying we were doing church tonight instead of, Sunday, and we miss Sunday because I was sick too Sunday was bad Sunday was real bad. Pastor Bill: [4:42] Sunday was bad I was six and Sunday too. [4:51] Okay. [5:02] Grayson says it's okay he's still somewhat new Grayson I thought you were like 15 or 16 or 14 are that's not new. Pastor Newms: [5:10] He means new to always being watching smart. Pastor Bill: [5:14] Oh I see I see. Pastor Newms: [5:15] Hey look we're face life. Pastor Bill: [5:18] We are faced live now hello and welcome to season 3 episode 97 of the broom Manifesto faith hope and love for the modern Christian I'm Pastor Bill and I'm joined, by Pastor newms he's right over here say hi pastor newms. Pastor Newms: [5:40] Hello I am, I am here I am frustrated cuz I just spent the last 30 minutes trying to get the stream working so I'm not necessarily, in a great mood to start off because third I know it looks orange and it's not Orange, it's a deep beautiful red but because the lights in here it looks orange and a really dirty orange to not a good bright orange if you bring me a different shirt I'll step off camera and change but yeah I know it's the wrong color for UT bigs the wrong color it is a red shirt, but I don't know why it's not, color balancing man it's because it's trying to color balance with my extremely white skin so it it's like Pastor Bill is very yellow tonight unless he's become jaundiced because of some. Pastor Bill: [6:42] Mobile help. Pastor Newms: [6:43] Thing over there I hope not how was your week. Pastor Bill: [6:49] Monica's pretty good what is wrong with my recording my my thing is okay I need to make a new one. Pastor Newms: [6:53] Man I don't I don't nothing likes us nothing internet doesn't like us to go live on Sundays nothing else likes us to go live any other time off. Pastor Bill: [7:01] Nothing wants to go live any other day. [7:10] 3 97.1 let's get some audio recording going okay let's try that again for the the podcast. Pastor Newms: [7:17] Oh my gosh really. Pastor Bill: [7:21] Just just just just the, hello and welcome to season 3 episode 97 of the breed Manifesto faith hope and love for the modern Christian I'm Pastor Bill and I'm joined by Pastor newms. Pastor Newms: [7:38] Who has extreme amounts of deja vu. Pastor Bill: [7:41] We're recording on a different night because we were both sick on Sunday and this Sunday we're not able to record so we're doing a Thursday this time and we're going to finish up, should be able to finish up. Pastor Newms: [7:56] If we don't finish up I'm done not doing a part four. Pastor Bill: [8:00] Our commentary on the 2022 state of theology survey that came out, and so yeah so here we are uncle uncle newms uncle newms how was your week. Pastor Newms: [8:17] No that's not that's not what we call me here. Pastor Bill: [8:20] Pastor newms how was your week. Uncle Fester. Pastor Newms: [8:25] No we no no no that is too Southern for me my week was pretty good other than some weird stomach bug that started on, Sunday and basically really just ended, at some point last night while I was asleep because I was sick when I went to bed and but the crazy thing was I felt great, like wasn't extra tired no fever no body aches no nothing just my stomach hated me. Pastor Bill: [9:12] It was by at huh. Pastor Newms: [9:16] Yeah it was it was about but you know usually on a Sunday night we talked about you know I've done something over the weekend or I've played games or I've but I really haven't much this week we had some storms and stuff last night and, I've been judging the show with my daughter cuz its third season comes out. Saturday or Friday I don't know which, she keeps saying the 15th but then she keeps saying Friday so I don't I don't know I don't know when the show comes out but, we're going to be binged and done and ready to watch it when it comes out either way we've got three episodes we're going to watch them after tonight so for us. Pastor Bill: [10:10] What show is it. Pastor Newms: [10:11] The owl house it's a Disney show about a girl who gets trapped a human girl who gets trapped in the demon, realm that's not really a demon realm but it's like it's real it's real weird it's real weird, real real cute the main character is Hispanic and. [10:39] I believe bisexual and she has a little girlfriend, and she's got she's got a nice A little girlfriend not because not to degrade, girlfriends but because they're like 14 so little because, children let me be clear on that like the term little girlfriend because they are children not because they any degrading manner of saying that, and I have an alarm set from last night when I took a nap that just decided to go off so sorry about that if that got picked up on the audio we normally are live on Thursdays, so it's a it's a cute little show it's weird she basically starts to become a witch and it's because the it's an aisle of magic and all this stuff and all these things happen and it's a kid show and it's it's on Disney plus and there's two seasons of it and they originally had canceled it and there was such an outcry from people including a lot of, why a because it's it really feels like write a novel not like a children's show but there was such a public outcry they decided to give it a third season so, that'll be. Pastor Bill: [12:06] It was such an outcry from the owl population that they had to bring it back. Pastor Newms: [12:14] I will go downstairs. Pastor Bill: [12:17] Anyway so my week so I was sick on Sunday and then Tuesday I had a second interview for that one job that I did that other interview for so that's always good when you get a second interview it's always nice. An administrative judge has to administrative stuff so nothing out of my Wheelhouse in any way shape or form you know. So yeah that was about it for miweek oh huh I found out that. Being sick is not an unexcused absence in Texas schools. Pastor Newms: [13:03] You mean it is an unexcused absence. Pastor Bill: [13:06] I'm sorry isn't an excused absence. Pastor Newms: [13:09] Yes it is. Pastor Bill: [13:11] Being sick is an unexcused absence even if you have a doctor's note it's a lot excused it's considered unexcused though. Pastor Newms: [13:18] It's an unexcused absence and but yet. Pastor Bill: [13:21] That's going to be fun when that turns around and bites them on the but when parents figured that out and. Pastor Newms: [13:26] Oh no that's. Pastor Bill: [13:27] Send their kid to school when they're contagious. Pastor Newms: [13:30] That's that's how it's always been that's that's not new that was it was still unexcused absences during covid you can thank your governor for that, it's not the school systems the governor actually turned the emergency laws emergency rules that were, passed during covid C covid year the tour years there was an emergency thing that allowed all absences to be, excused if they were sickness related for that time period but both before that and now, that's just how it is it's one of the reasons it is the same here which is one of the reasons why we had to, pull Sarah out is because she misses so many days for her illness because, if you have two symptoms you gotta go like can't stay in school if you've got two symptoms well her issue is stomach related so, stomach pain which then your body tries to fight off with a fever, even though she's not sick at all that's to symptoms you're out for the day and so we were getting even in Texas we were getting letters constantly like your kid is. [14:49] If you miss this many more days your kid will not actually pass this grade blah blah blah and then the principal would have to write a letter saying that the kids actually at the point where they should be and it has to be signed by the teacher also for the kid to move forward, with health issues the health issues in in both of our states are not well taken care of which is also why. [15:13] Why I reward my girls on days, of that other kids get rewards for perfect attendance because perfect attendance is stupid because perfect attendance is impossible for anyone with a health issue which. So perfect attendance is stupid and if you celebrate it I think you're stupid. Pastor Bill: [15:36] So now it's time for getting another pastors. Pastor Newms: [15:38] Is it

S3Ep99 - The Church Is Suppose To Do What? Pastor Newms: [0:00] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 98 of the brand Manifesto faith hope and love for the modern Christian I'm Pastor what we're 99.  [0:25] No or so I've read I've titled everything in the entire system row.  Pastor Bill: [0:31] Well did we not nobody typed in the hello and welcome on the 23rd did we not nobody typed in the 13th we did episode 97 that's why my number was off so it's yeah it's 99.  Pastor Newms: [0:43] Okay yeah yeah we didn't we didn't type it yeah yeah that would make sense I was like wait a second.  Pastor Bill: [0:51] I got you I got you so next season 3 episode 100 and then the week after that will be season 4 episode 1.  Pastor Newms: [1:00] Which episode 300 unless something is different that I don't know of it is back to you being big face.  Pastor Bill: [1:09] It is next week is back to being big face.  Pastor Newms: [1:11] Yeah yeah now are you prepared for being back to big face yet.  Pastor Bill: [1:19] My ever prepared for anything ever.  Pastor Newms: [1:21] Um no I'm turning you down a bunch tonight just so you know you were super loud when we got started.  Pastor Bill: [1:28] Last week everybody was like you're so far away from the mic so this week I took time to make sure I was like right up in the mic and ready to go.  Pastor Newms: [1:36] Yeah you're redlining a smidge I've turned you down though so I hope it is more even now if you could talk.  Pastor Bill: [1:43] Image of words.  Pastor Newms: [1:45] Yes there we go okay now you're just barely tapping read every now and then.  Pastor Bill: [1:49] Okay good I don't want to like break speakers and make people go just you're so loud I'm not going to listen to what they have to say.  Pastor Newms: [1:57] Well I mean I'm a pretty loud person naturally and so a lot of people don't listen to what I have to say because of that oh interesting so one of my girls did bring me a sneak but I'm actually using, Zaid he's sneak cup and so she has a bunch of festive stickers that I don't, that I don't have on my sneak cups so just kind of as it why are you holding a microphone.  Pastor Bill: [2:26] That brain on switch which is my wife says his beard hasn't grown back in enough to be big fish.  Pastor Newms: [2:33] Why are you holding a microphone while you're looking at a microphone.  Pastor Bill: [2:39] I don't know it was on my desk all kinds of things will wind up on my anything that breaks in the house winds up on my desk to be fixed this is one of the things I fixed, I had to heat up this top Shield broke off and the heat up the shield with a lighter, until it was too hot to touch and used my shirt to press it down into the plastic lining here to melt it back into place, which upon inspection was how they attached it to begin with in the first place, no glue they literally just heated up the metal was like.  Pastor Newms: [3:22] You prefer in saying his beard doesn't grow my beard is substantially less than what it was two weeks ago because I got a major trim, in order to be where I was last Sunday which was, doing a doing a I hate that conducting facilitating, a wedding so that's how my week was has like half my week was spent out in Texas, facilitating a wedding and being busy doing that and thoroughly enjoying it but.  Pastor Bill: [4:09] Look I've got a Halo.  [4:17] What is personal it of that brain on switch to says CurseLit.  Pastor Newms: [4:21] It's a it's a it's an emoji that is a little fire it's a little pretty.  Pastor Bill: [4:29] Oh okay it's one of those emojis.  Pastor Newms: [4:31] Yeah it's at which emoji yeah.  Pastor Bill: [4:35] Earlier real dark Grayson said pastor 104 hype Pastor 104 High.  Pastor Newms: [4:40] It's a little red it's a little red thing holding a sign that says hype and before that zaidi's was I believe those are robot faces twitch has a bunch of emojis that.  Pastor Bill: [4:53] Little semicolon close paren.  Pastor Newms: [4:57] It appears to be a robot face.  Pastor Bill: [5:04] Once again this court is not pick up the Emojis from twitch and I'm left is looking at weird. Discord so yeah it is what it is.  [5:23] What happens when I throw an emoji and Discord ship.  Pastor Newms: [5:26] Or like this, and and just really just you know make it to where you have no idea.  Pastor Bill: [5:47] What does that look like in twitch.  Pastor Newms: [5:48] That appears to be a pain yeah.  Pastor Bill: [5:52] So twitch pics Discord is just a Discord doesn't speak to it.  Pastor Newms: [5:56] Well I think it's actually completely different because to be to referral the.  Pastor Bill: [6:03] Wow.  Pastor Newms: [6:14] And just so you know the thing that brings did it's an octopus doing this.  Pastor Bill: [6:20] Okay squid squid squid squid squid squid.  Pastor Newms: [6:22] Okay it's a squid doing this if it.  Pastor Bill: [6:25] Squid 1 or 2 Squid 3 Squid 4.  Pastor Newms: [6:27] Yeah it's doing this with its tentacles as individual Emojis all right, which the funny thing that one did not get picked up it just says Discord Bill Shea Circle so.  [6:59] Got it so that's how my week went was lots of driving lots of being places and then a bunch of talking.  Pastor Bill: [7:13] Shu Pei when you pick the panorama.  [7:19] The driving is one of the prices you pay when you pick the Panorama you chose to move to Tennessee and so now.  Pastor Newms: [7:27] But what's Panorama have to do with it that's the type of photo.  Pastor Bill: [7:32] Your view have a panoramic chose the it's a line from a song.  Pastor Newms: [7:41] I don't get it but that's cool like okay I get to look at mountains you don't I mean so I guess I get what that means like since my view.  Pastor Bill: [7:50] I am a mess.  [7:55] I just got to look in the mirror be like hello mountain man.  Pastor Newms: [7:58] You're a pile of something.  Pastor Bill: [8:01] Hey let's also pile.  Pastor Newms: [8:03] It's all a mountain is a pile of something.  Pastor Bill: [8:06] Know what kind of rocks in the mountain are not the same thing.  Pastor Newms: [8:10] Once just older.  Pastor Bill: [8:16] So my week was all right I guess I've officially decided that those people that I got a second interview with have ghosts.  Pastor Newms: [8:23] Ah  Pastor Bill: [8:24] That stinks I got a puppy this week so that's all.  Pastor Newms: [8:27] Yes you did.  Pastor Bill: [8:31] Pit lab named granola, who has taken to house training housebreaking very well surprisingly well, I got to see you this week hang out with you at a park for about an hour that was fun.  Pastor Newms: [8:50] Yep we got it we got a little bit of hanging out time.  Pastor Bill: [8:57] Miranda went to her first public school dance on Friday.  Pastor Newms: [9:02] Gross.  Pastor Bill: [9:05] Had a good time hanging out with her friends it was like a rave type theme with black lights glow sticks and she came back with a bunch of pictures and videos and stuff.  Pastor Newms: [9:17] Yeah see Grayson agrees with me.  Pastor Bill: [9:20] Racist.  Pastor Newms: [9:21] And I don't say that, you know let's be clear it's not the public school dance and it's not the Miranda dancing neither of those two things are gross it's the.  Pastor Bill: [9:33] Miranda.  Pastor Newms: [9:35] Going to a dance that is gross just overall so let's be clear on what I mean I am not hating on public school and I'm not hating on a child I am hating on, the the high school dance aspect of high school dance. Be coming from someone who never had to go to a high school dance because I went to a school that thought that if you danced you would probably end up burning in Hell quite quickly afterwards and so our homecoming it was literally in the middle of a basketball game and you just, you had the court and that the court walked away that was homecoming yay. So another thing cuz I just saw it on camera one of the things that did happen at the wedding is I shattered a tooth that was fun.  Pastor Bill: [10:44] You saw your tooth on camera is that what you're saying.  Pastor Newms: [10:46] Yeah I saw the whole on the additional the new hole in my face and it made me go oh yeah I broke a tooth which seems to happen now every time I go somewhere, like the last time I was in Texas I broke a tooth and so I'm like. You know well that's a thing.  Pastor Bill: [11:09] I guess I should just stop going places.  Pastor Newms: [11:11] Yeah I don't think that's the actual answer I think it's more I should probably get my teeth fixed but debt is expensive.  Pastor Bill: [11:22] Boomstick rooms.  Pastor Newms: [11:23] So says the guy who got all his teeth pulled out which is a form of fixing.  Pastor Bill: [11:32] For her I guess.  Pastor Newms: [11:33] So that that's that's how the weeks went.  Pastor Bill: [11:39] Cool it's time for getting to know the pastor's then it's your week to pull a car.  Pastor Newms: [11:43] Do you have any other thing you want to talk about before I before I read said card anything. I really am super tired for no good reason I had plenty of sleep last night because you know time change so we got a full extra hour, if you want a contest in which your prize was to select any three guests to appear on a popular late night talk show which three people would you choose. That's a weird contest yeah.  Pastor Bill: [12:22] I won a contest to choose three other people to go onto a talk show. For the participation of seeing those three people go on the talk show.  Pastor Newms: [12:55] What would you absolutely have to see for your trip to be compete complete so if you want an African safari what do you want to see on said African safari. Do do do do do do for me so I've kind of been an African safari but not really on an African safari.  Pastor Bill: [13:22] Water that's in Africa.  Pastor New

S3Ep98 - What Is Family For? Pastor Newms: [0:00] Hello wait no that's not how it starts no.  Pastor Bill: [0:06] Hello and welcome.  Pastor Newms: [0:08] No you said you weren't going to say it.  Pastor Bill: [0:11] I did the old one like from Fuji from like first please.  Pastor Newms: [0:29] For the modern Christian I'm pastor newms and I'm the big face and there's Pastor Bill and he is the little face and he doesn't feel good so, warming up how you feeling I mean how was your week.  Pastor Bill: [0:48] You know how I'm feeling I feel like you got the flu is how I'm feeling.  Pastor Newms: [0:50] Yeah yeah.  Pastor Bill: [0:53] And right before that Big Bertha died.  Pastor Newms: [0:54] Big Bertha didn't die Big Bertha is sick no.  Pastor Bill: [0:59] She's got it a whole new like it okay if the eat the equivalent thing happened to me I'd be getting a brain transplant right now.  Pastor Newms: [1:08] Well well see that's where the CPU differs because it's the processing but it's not the memory so kind of.  Pastor Bill: [1:19] Okay so I'd be getting a central nervous system replacement.  Pastor Newms: [1:23] No not the whole central nervous.  Pastor Bill: [1:26] Scores a run from my brain through my.  Pastor Newms: [1:29] All the cords are still there it's literally just a little chip one of your lobes I don't know which one but but.  Pastor Bill: [1:36] My medulla oblongata Doula Upland gotta train a replacement.  Pastor Newms: [1:39] One of the lobes is being replaced hello Biggs welcome.  Pastor Bill: [1:44] Big Brother this CPU needs to be replaced at least is what they said, resetting it didn't work they're going to have to order a new one and then the guy was like do you want the newest generation one or do you want an equivalent one and I was like, I don't know the difference and he was like you know I don't either let me let me let me give you a quote I'll look that up and give you a full quote on Monday, and I was like okay.  Pastor Newms: [2:12] You're like I don't know man you tell.  Pastor Bill: [2:16] Yeah he's like he's offering me upgrades and he's like I don't know what the upgrade is about I don't know what's upgraded about it so well how am I supposed.  Pastor Newms: [2:21] That's funny so one thing I want to say is I do like the way you did your clock I don't know if I like all of your setup but I really like the way you did the clock.  Pastor Bill: [2:38] Yeah it's a see-through you know it's just see through clock got Gears and stuff on the inside and then so I just I put it over top of where I've already got this LED lighting strong, so the LED lighting is shining you know through the clock.  Pastor Newms: [2:55] Yeah.  Pastor Bill: [2:57] For those of you listening and not watching.  Pastor Newms: [2:59] That's true that's true and you should join us so you can watch us hello Phoenix welcome ellos 80 welcome my week was good I'm real busy at work, and I'm gearing up to take several days off and so that always means you know, more work in preparation to taking days off because when you have to manage the boards, basically how everything moves in the team, you've got to have all that laid out and ready for while you're gone or else team members might run out of work or might not have something to do and that's no bueno, yeah that when we have so many things big says your office looks like a TARDIS.  Pastor Bill: [3:53] Yes I'm building its hardest over here.  [4:00] Got a little Tardis right here behind my head.  Pastor Newms: [4:03] It's not bigger on the inside.  Pastor Bill: [4:06] That one's not now neither is this one over here on my desk this was something on the inside either you actually said the inside of it.  Pastor Newms: [4:15] Well what else do we want to talk about for warmup.  Pastor Bill: [4:20] What we got getting to know the pastures.  Pastor Newms: [4:22] Yeah did your week for a car.  Pastor Bill: [4:24] On my way.  Pastor Newms: [4:25] Oh we got to see how this new cup looks how does this cup look what color let's play a game what color is this cup chat.  Pastor Bill: [4:36] You asking the chat with color the cup of I can't take it this box open.  Pastor Newms: [4:42] What color, is my new cup what do you guys think because that's going to determine whether I keep using it or not depending on how it comes across the Stream.  Pastor Bill: [4:52] That's not right jack.  [5:03] Like dreamsicle Orange.  Pastor Newms: [5:06] Yep that's the problem it's not Orange.  Pastor Bill: [5:12] What color is it supposed to be.  Pastor Newms: [5:13] It is a red cup but it is the shade of red that I was afraid it's not a deep enough read for for the cameras to handle it, bill is is a small face because two reasons one we're going back to the discipleship talk, the Saints are aiming so it really does Bye Bill.  Pastor Bill: [5:44] Bible.  Pastor Newms: [5:45] Good luck um the, we're going back to the discipleship we've got two more weeks of the discipleship talk and also he has the flu currently so he is not feeling good so he is the little face, and attempted to be assassinated by the Saints, now for those of you in video land the reason that is funny is I have a Boondock Saints poster on my wall if you don't know what movie that is I'm sorry for your existence but the movie poster.  Pastor Bill: [6:23] Because everything harder with you feel sick.  Pastor Newms: [6:25] The, poster is the two brothers holding a gun down pointed and it so happens that it is on either side and pointing at Pastor bills head which is hilarious which, really makes me wish you had a green screen so I could just put him there actually but there's no way his background would actually work with a green screen that would be.  Pastor Bill: [6:51] It works all except for the clock like I was playing around with the Discord filters earlier I'd like everything works except for right the clock right here shows through every filter.  Pastor Newms: [7:01] So it would be it would just be your face your body and then the clock I'm okay with that actually that'd be funny.  Pastor Bill: [7:08] The lit up clock.  Pastor Newms: [7:09] The lit up clock just cuz it be like in a video game where you got something hovering next to you like a little side companion yours is just a clock yeah.  Pastor Bill: [7:16] The glowing cloud.  Pastor Newms: [7:19] All right what car did you pull sir out of your terrible deck.  Pastor Bill: [7:24] What's your worst roommate or houseguest story.  Pastor Newms: [7:46] And she attended one of my parties, and when she attended my party she tried to drink too much back in my drinking days she tried to keep up with me and threw up all over my floor multiple times that he, that's my worst roommate story, I haven't had many roommates to be honest so I don't have that many even it even at teen Mania was I had five roommates and then when I lived in a house there were like 12 of us there weren't any bad stories one of them got me addicted to anime and that never went away, Andrew Neblock.  Pastor Bill: [8:30] Anime.  Pastor Newms: [8:31] Was one of the first times I ever watched anime back in 2002 and.  Pastor Bill: [8:36] So my wife likes to drink this water called hint H int intent of whatever flavor it's got a hint of in it though I always jokingly called her hentai water, and dirty.  Pastor Newms: [8:52] No  Pastor Bill: [8:54] Himself every time I say it now the rest of the kids are like why do you keep saying that what does that even mean.  Pastor Newms: [8:59] Pastor Bill has the flu please do not Google hentai please do not Google that any of you who do not know what it is that is if you know you know situation please, do not Google that Pastor Bill with the flu, if you know you know actually type that to someone and then had to explain what it meant, I did not like the IKNYN and they went huh and I was like if you know you know, if you know you know what nevermind you're obviously too old for this.  Pastor Bill: [9:41] So when I moved to California, I moved into an apartment that had two rooms each of those rooms already had two people living in them and I ended up having to live in the living room with an air mattress, and that made me feel like a bad house houseguests because I was you know thinking of space in the living room and all of my stuff was in the basically the, jacket closet by the front door but one of our roommates every morning, would basically stop on the air mattress on his way out the door at like 6:30 a.m.  Pastor Newms: [10:28] Hmm.  Pastor Bill: [10:30] He didn't want me there he didn't like me wanted me to move out and so every morning at 6:30 he stomp on the air mattress while I was trying to still try to sleep on his way out the door.  Pastor Newms: [10:43] Mmm he sounds like a peach.  Pastor Bill: [10:57] Anyway that's my bedroom my story.  Pastor Newms: [11:00] Interesting all right well, then I guess we get started so this week I titled it.  [11:17] I forgot what I titled it.  Pastor Bill: [11:19] Child i y k y k.  Pastor Newms: [11:30] I'm looking for the right window that would have what I titled it what is family for, what is family for and mainly because I had no other thing to title it I wasn't sure what to title this week, it's so I was just like what's family for, you know we went back this is the fifth week I think of us talking about discipleship that we took a break for in the middle to do the state of theology.  Pastor Bill: [12:10] Break it a little of a six-part series to do a three part series, before we got back into our six part series.  Pastor Newms: [12:17] That we only have two parts left tonight and one more.  Pastor Bill: [12:20] Tonight one part of.  Pastor Newms: [12:21] Which will not be next week I don't think don't forget.  Pastor Bill: [12:26] What day is the next out that the 30th.  Pastor Newms: [12:29] Becaus

Pastor Newms: [0:00] Hey Pastor Newms how was your week? Okay so my week was good. Pastor Bill: [0:04] Pastor Newms how was your week? Pastor Newms: [0:06] I know we're trying to keep it semi shorter than normal so we can get into the 20 things we want to talk about tonight. Pastor Bill: [0:13] We got a live 1 through 15 last time right. Pastor Newms: [0:15] We did we got through 15 last time and we're trying we're on 16 and I think that some of these ones we might just go hey let's talk about this one in this one together at the same time as opposed to doing explanations because like. Pastor Bill: [0:29] Why would we do that? Pastor Newms: [0:30] Because 16 and 17 are almost exactly like my answers are similar because they feed into each other what is one is one is one is two is kind of, but anyway so my week was good it was busy with work, I picked up my suit I honestly thought about wearing it tonight just to throw everyone off because I'm the one who wears the t-shirt and you're the one who wears the collared shirt and so would be really funny if, I'm in a suit. … Pastor Bill: [12:51] All right so we are on week 2 of going over the state of theology. Pastor Newms: [13:02] And for anyone not live who didn't listen to week one do you want to summarize what that is quickly. Pastor Bill: [13:09] Sure so every year or every other year rather this group called The State of Theology and and Life Way that used to run like for Christian bookstores they put out a it's not really a survey. its statements, and then you, whether or not each statement is true or false you answer strongly agree somewhat agree not sure somewhat disagree or strongly disagree, surveys this year and then you know put out the results of their state of Theology and it's very flawed, very flawed from a data standpoint from a Believer standpoint and the reason we're talking about it is because, this is what people are talking about people in the world are taking this survey and then you go and you see this is what Christians believe and. Mmm the takeaways that people are saying this is proof of what Christians believe doesn't represent what I believe and it doesn't represent how I feel about my neighbors, and doesn't represent the way I see God and and all of this so we're going over it because, we need to go over we need to go over you know why do we believe the way we believe and you need to decide as a listener or viewer what you believe about these different items, that's what this is, last week we went through statements 1 through 15 so this week we're going to pick up on 16 and Jonathan suggested we just lump 16, 17 together because they're they're pretty close to the same thing they're like super close to each other. Pastor Newms: [14:58] Well well and and I think that's part of like what I wrote in 16 is basically saying 17, I agree with but 16 go ahead so let's jump into it. Pastor Bill: [15:13] 16. The Bible, like all sacred writings, contains helpful accounts of ancient myths but is not literally true. So 25 percent strongly agree 28 percent somewhat agree, 6% not sure 14 percent somewhat disagree and 27 percent strongly disagree, with this statement. Pastor Newms: [15:41] And and what is 17 and then we'll talk about both of them at the same time. Pastor Bill: [15:47] 17. The Bible is 100% accurate in all that it teaches. And the numbers on strongly and whatever didn't change enough to even really talked about the change in numbers more people agree, but that's really the only big difference between the results on the two questions. Pastor Newms: [16:08] The sides just kind of flipped. Pastor Bill: [16:12] Really flip I mean strongly disagree barely changed it all. The Bible like all sacred writings contains helpful accounts of ancient myths but is not a literally true and then the Bible is 100% accurate in all that it teaches so. On 16, example of accounts of ancient myths but is not literally true I put somewhat agree, and the Bible is 100 percent accurate and all the teachers I put strongly disagree now what did I put because my results aren't here anymore and I didn't write them down I think I agree with that. Pastor Newms: [16:55] So I put. So my problem is this is my problem is in both of these is the wording because. Pastor Bill: [17:06] Well it's always the wording but where's our. Pastor Newms: [17:08] It is 1 it straight says like all sacred writings, contains helpful so right off the bat it Compares it to all sacred writings so I have two right off the bat it's like no, not like other writings it doesn't it's not the same, because it's not myths like other sacred writings so right off the bat I had it's like no the wording makes me say no I disagree completely and then I put that I agree on 17, in that it's accurate in what it teaches and I think that's the big. Like a lot of people would view those two questions as very similar but to me they're completely different because, the Bible is not a set of myths rather a book to be studied and learned from I believe it's all true, I do think that as written by men inspired by God through the Holy Spirit and then translated that some of its meaning has been lost to understanding of the original texts and then I used First Corinthians 13:11 - 13 when I was a child I spoke as a child I thought as a child I reasoned like a child when I became a man I put aside childish things for now we see only a reflection of reflection as in a mirror, but then face to face now I know in part, but then I will know fully as I am fully known now these three remain faith hope and love but the greatest of these is love, is what I put for the first one because it's one of those words like it's true in that it was written truthfully, and it was truthful accounts and it is truthful retellings of those accounts because truth and inaccurate are two different things and then.  Pastor Bill: [19:14] So I'm going to a little bit of a different route. And in the cutting my head buds just died so I have to switch that out here in a second but in the concepts I believe that the Bible is accurate, I think there are certain things that people have claimed the Bible teaches, that aren't accurate and so there's that problem. Um and so I believe if the Bible was 100% literally true, and it was like we said before if it was a it was a complete lie, verifiable history book that you had no question on whether of on the veracity of it one way or the other then it would eliminate the need for faith, um Hebrews 11 verse 6 says now without faith it is impossible to please God since the one who draws near to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him, and Hebrews 11:1 says now Faith is the reality of what is hoped for the proof of what is not seen, if the Bible is literally literal and it's 100% literal and everything in it is, just literally the way it happened and it's 100% right and it's a it's a guidebook for every way that you should live your life down to the letter t, then that removes the need for faith and I just, I believe that would be the case I don't I don't that doesn't make any sense to me. Groggy says but isn't faith that we believe that it's 100% ride so that's having faith in the Bible not having faith in God I've talked about that in the past that, I feel like a lot of evangelicalism if that's the right uses that word has turned the Bible into an idol, where we have more faith in this collection of writings then we do in in actually in God and in the whole he's leaning on the Holy Spirit, and so we elevated what is an amazing thing to something that it was never intended to be, it's not intended to be worshipped and holy and put Faith in it, we're supposed to be creating disciples and having faith based off of what we're you know we're urging each other to faith in Christ to faith in God and then we're replacing that with oh well I think them this book. Pastor Newms: [22:24] To me I mean to me we've had this conversation a lot. Well and that's where there's a difference like I was saying there's a difference between shrew, truth and accuracy like for example here's an example in the Old Testament there are places where they give numbers of people, and they say this number, of people were here this number of people were here is that number one hundred percent accurate, the fact that there are 5,000 people at the feeding of the fish well there was 5,000 men well okay cool but what is a man. Was there 5001 was there 4999 so it's like 5,000 the the language that we use, is different and the meanings behind languages tree is different so the accuracy isn't, as important as truth you can tell the story and believe it is true and have faith that it is true while you're telling it, does not mean it's a hundred percent accurate because you might have actually you know use your left hand instead of your right, when you're telling a story doesn't mean you are wrong or misleading or lying it just means it's not perfect like we aren't perfect and the people who wrote it on, perfect even Paul says go ahead no go ahead. Pastor Bill: [24:17] What Groggy said here on Twitch was but if the Bible isn't true then the stories aren't true then what we believe isn't true and you my friend have just nailed faith on the head. Without the possibility for doubt there is no need for faith you have to have faith. That God is real that's God sent his son that God that God that that this happened that that happened not because the Bible says it not because you believe that this book is accurate but because you have faith. In God not in this collection of stories is your mom saying you have to have faith in God not faith in the, if you have faith in the Bible then you're saying that this book is literal and true and and yada yada all these things that we've seen recently and that leads us into the next one which ties into it perfectly statement 18 modern science disproves the Bible. You can go look up a list of the ways that the Bible doesn't line up with science, and over time there's been things where the Bible and science have disagreed and it was literally that, um science then later had a revelation that made it line up with the Bible

Pastor Bill: [0:02] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 95 of the Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill in the big seat today, the big chair and I'm joined by Pastor Newms in the little chair, I disabled the video for bandwidth so I don't remember where you are you're right, right here on the video with me. He's the little head today and I'm the big head today because something came out this week and I was like okay, we need to talk about this and we really need to talk about this so we're going to talk about it. … Pastor Bill: [8:29] Okay so let's move on we've got a lot to cover tonight, maybe we'll get it all done in the one hour maybe we'll go over it might be a double episode tonight and then we'll just release the second half of the podcast the next week I don't know. Pastor Newms: [8:47] Wouldn't we just record the next half next week or else we wouldn't have any of the beginning stuff next week. Pastor Bill: [8:58] I don't know we'll play it by ear. Pastor Newms: [9:13] Okay okay. Pastor Bill: [9:16] I don't know I don't know okay so this week the results of a nationwide survey came out that the survey is done every it's not every year. Pastor Newms: [9:26] It's every two years. Pastor Bill: [9:27] Every two years, and it's a group called the state of Theology and they partner with Life Way. Now life way you know you used to see them as Christian bookstores everywhere well they kind of rain to that end because, well they weren't making any money they were losing money on their you know brick and mortar stores. It's 35 statements on theology Doctrine things like this. Pastor Newms: [10:02] How many statements? Pastor Bill: [10:05] 35 Pastor Newms: [10:08] Why do I only have 32 listed. Pastor Bill: [10:14] That's an interesting question but there’s thirty five statements okay so it's 35 statements and. Pastor Newms: [10:21] Oh no oh no. Pastor Bill: [10:26] People went in and took this survey and they would answer you know based on the options given. And so we're going to go through some of these and we're going to talk about the results and the question and talk about you know a scripture or maybe not a scripture but we're going to talk about the way we see it I may say one way that's your news May see the different way, everyone listening may see a completely different way than either one of us and that's fine on most of this a couple of these it is that basic, it's either this way or you're not actually a Christian kind of thing you know. Pastor Newms: [11:12] I would agree yes. Pastor Bill: [11:15] 1. God is a perfect being and cannot make a mistake. Out of 3,000 people that responded 51 percent strongly agree, 15% somewhat agree nine percent weren't sure 10% somewhat disagreed and 15 percent strongly disagreed, that God was a perfect being and could not make a mistake. Right, so I believe God is a perfect being and that he does not make mistakes I also believe, that from my point of view I can look at something God has done, and either not see the big picture and think it was a mistake or not agree with it from my point of view and think it was a mistake, But ultimately from a grand scheme all of time expanse point of view God doesn't make mistakes and (responding to a live comment) - Biggs says our god well as, yeah there were this is off of the assumption that it is the Judeo Christian God of the Bible. Pastor Newms: [12:34] Which really plays into a future. Pastor Bill: [12:38] How do I word this correctly? Yeah it does. Pastor Newms: [12:41] So so yeah I I so this is the issue I have, overall you posit do you reckon continue with this one sorry so this is the issue I have overall so just so you know when you lean like that right there no one can see your face this is the issue I have, with this entire survey, and this is the issue I've had in this survey in past years also the wording of these questions are terrible. They are steeped in a biased belief of this is what I think whoever wrote These originally which this has been years and years and years ago so there's no telling, but it's very biased some of them are extremely christianese. Some of them aren't but, it's very much I have this set of beliefs so I'm going to ask the questions in this way not thinking about, any other situation because words like mistake what is a mistake you know um, like you mentioned I could view something that God did as I don't understand it or like it so to me it is a mistake in the perfect will of God it is not a mistake so, it's interesting to look at that in a lot of these questions is, the wording is so bad and don't worry I'll complain about English all night tonight so do be prepared the next two weeks I will be complaining about English the entire time so hold your seats and be prepared and I'll try not to blame Microsoft for anything but it is going to be English, blaming a lot so you have a scripture and I'll let you go first before I say what I was going to say because I thought you paused because you were going through it so. Pastor Bill: [14:45] So I attached Isaiah 55:8,9 to this. It says, “For my thoughts are not your thoughts and your ways are not my ways this is the Lord's declaration, for as Heaven is higher than Earth so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” And I think that really summed up what I was saying you know like God from God's point of view you know he works on a completely different playing field than the rest of us, and he's got the you know the 100-yard view whereas we're down here in the grass just trying to see daylight you know past the blades of grass, so Pastor Newms: [15:24] And what I looked at for it, was Psalms 18:39, “His way is perfect the word of the Lord is pure he's a shield who take all he's a shield to all who take refuge in him you know his way is perfect.” because it's his way and he kind of hit go so he gets to his prerogative because he said go. So that that that's a yeah. Pastor Bill: [16:01] 2. There is one true God in three persons God the Father God the son and God the Holy Spirit. Well once again, this is really a bias question it's worded with a lot of bias in it it's bad data collection but assuming that you believe in the one true God in a one true God. It then makes another assumption that you believe in the Trinity or don't d.c. they're asking do you believe in the Trinity or you not believe the Trinity everything's not really that clear-cut there's a lot of gray there I mean the idea of the trinity, isn't even one that's expressly stated in the Bible right it's a doctrine that we've pieced together out of context clues from, well this writer said this thing and this writer said this thing and this writer said this thing and through all of that, crafted this idea of the trinitarian nature of God, but there's no one scripture that just point blank says that and we could honestly spend a whole, episode of its own by itself going through all of the stuff that leads you to believe there is a trinity in the nature of God right, but that's not what we're doing tonight and so like this isn't another one of those bad ones, fifty-four percent of people strongly agree 16% somewhat agree 11 aren't sure president 5% somewhat disagree and 14 percent strongly disagree, with that statement that was not a pause that was me moving it over to you now. Pastor Newms: [17:50] Okay so this is where this is where I'm going to complain in my in my part so, with a one true God in three persons God the Father God the son and God the holy spirit so to me with the way this question is worded. I feel it leads one to sometimes especially if you're not steeped in christianese this is one of those that's steeped in crime if you're not, you might think of three God's not three parts of one God, and three the way the trilogy Trinity is you know three people that are one that are what you know because depending on how you read that sentence where the commas are how the you know, it's an interesting thought process, because the Trinity is like you mentioned hard in and of itself and. Verse I did pull a verse for this one, just one simple one that I kind of grabbed which is Galatians 4:6 and it says “in because you are Sons God sent the spirit of his son into our hearts crying Abba Father” and, so that does talk about all three parts in one the three persons that are all parts of one God that are, three at the same time which again steeped in christianese this is the Trinity and of itself is an extremely hard concept, unless you think of Body Mind and Spirit and can they be separated can they not excetera Etc so the Trinity is hard. It's deep theological stuff this isn't a an easy one. … Pastor Bill: [20:41] 3. God accepts the worship of all religions including Christianity Judaism and Islam. okay once again so bad so bad, so bad okay so 45 percent strongly agree with the. Um 22% somewhat agree 11% are not sure 6% somewhat to disagree and 16% like me strongly disagree with this statement, that God accepts the worship of all religions that's the statement. And then it gives a cough. Pastor Newms: [21:30] Why is that the statement why is that the. Pastor Bill: [21:32] Including the Judeo-Christian religions. Pastor Newms: [21:39] All three Abrahamic religions. Pastor Bill: [21:43] Including all three Abrahamic religions and I'm like wait God accepts worship with all religions so you're saying you know Hindu Buddhism Taoism. Pastor Newms: [21:54] Jediism the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pastor Bill: [21:56] Jediism Zaroastrianism the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You're making a rather broad statement and then saying. Pastor Newms: [22:03] Yeah. Pastor Bill: [22:04] Including the Abrahamic religions. Pastor Newms: [22:08] Which I think is what throws a lot of people off with this question which is why you have so many that agree because when they, when they hear the statement well yeah all three of those religions serve the same God technically you know so. Yeah to you know and so this question is terrible because of that three. Pastor Bill: [22:36] But even in the three they should have disagreed I put John 14:6,7, “Jesus told him I am the way the truth

S3Ep94- Should We Be Intimate? Pastor Bill And Pastor Newms  Pastor Newms: [0:00] And hello wait that's not how you start we start with, hello and welcome to season 3 episode 94 of the Breen Manifesto faith hope and love for the modern Christian I'm pastor newms and Pastor Bill is still down here. In the little corner, for the next three weeks I think it is before you start taking the big Corner again because we've got three three more weeks of this, podcast I mean of this series Pastor Bill: [0:42] I guess in three weeks I'll take the big screen back. My week was. [1:01] Rotated my mattress. Pastor Newms: [1:02] You rotated your. If that is the highlight of your week we need to talk. Pastor Bill: [1:16] That was the highlight of my week. [1:32] Yeah not a whole bunch but yeah. Pastor Newms: [1:34] We didn't stream because my week was crazy we. We did something kind of cool seven days ago that I didn't realize until tonight, because I'm real bad at paying attention to things sometimes because I'm really really bad at life we got our first donation on our. Pastor Bill: [2:23] Heights a mole air horn. Pastor Newms: [2:27] It was mr. groggy because we love him so it was it's good that we got it. But the it is you know family member so it wasn't like a random Watcher but I mean the Trevor Project, is a good, charity so you know money is money so yeah that was kind of cool I noticed it when I logged in today it was like 7 days ago and I was like oh I missed that oops that must have happened last week during church I'm bad big says you have a very weak air horn. Pastor Bill: [3:14] Yeah well. Pastor Newms: [3:15] So that's one of those things so so what else do you. Haha your your screen your mic modulation is straight up ignoring that noise and assuming assuming it's gross background noise. Pastor Bill: [3:37] That's a funny. Pastor Newms: [3:38] Like we see you put it up there we see it light up and we see you go because you're excited and then nothing. Pastor Bill: [3:45] Nothing. Pastor Newms: [3:48] It was quite humorous like. Pastor Bill: [3:51] No Sly screwdriver noise whatsoever just. Pastor Newms: [3:53] Your Sonic I think your Sonic is broken ha ha. Pastor Bill: [3:57] Sonic doesn't Sonic bro. Pastor Newms: [3:59] Yeah I think you just have an LED screwdriver so your week was just kind of normal. [4:25] Chest hair you were. Pastor Bill: [4:25] There's all still there yeah. Pastor Newms: [4:28] Um what are you looking at down there just hair that makes sense. Pastor Bill: [4:33] The top of my belly I guess I don't know. Pastor Newms: [4:35] Top of my belt I do I feel you on that one I have I have hair just the. My week was interesting I started out. Pastor Bill: [5:02] Father think too much information to know that you have hair all over your body. Pastor Newms: [5:15] But to be fair he actually has slightly more hair on his head. Pastor Bill: [5:21] We'll be fine. Pastor Newms: [5:22] To be fair or so my week was weird this week, I worked a lot I, well Monday morning I woke up and it was it was a it I'm in the middle of a gout flare, and it is painful and so I spent most of my week working and then laying down so we have there's a couch here that you can't see because Pastor bills heads in front of it there's a couch right here, we're past your bills head is and it's a futon couch that came with, when says moved in and so when he got a bed for his bedroom there was enough room in it for the couch thing and his so the little settee that was here is gone, and there's now this couch right here right here and so um, multiple times this week it was like okay I'm done with work I don't feel like going downstairs I just go over there and lay down so. Pastor Bill: [6:41] Lay down right here in the room. Pastor Newms: [6:43] I just watch whatever says was doing and then play on my phone and put my feet up and so that was most of my week, taking some extra fat. Pastor Bill: [6:55] Today I called and groggy answered the phone and he was like gnomes is asleep oh okay. Pastor Newms: [7:02] And so that's that's that's where we're going to go next the weird things that happened this weekend and my beard hair has gotten in my headset I hate when that happens the, the hair right here curls and it curls enough that it's under this that it then, gets in my ear and it I didn't straighten my beard before we started tonight so sorry listeners you had to deal with that so Friday, we had DND like normal. Your son's game that was fun but because of my increased vitamins and stuff I missed part of that because I was sick because charcoal, taking activated charcoal does some stuff to systems makes you a little sticky sometimes so we did the end, yeah we did the Indie like normal then Saturday rolled around, and we ended up canceling Monday Bible study in the morning on Saturday the family bible study because there was just a lot of family stuff going on different people in different places. Pastor Bill: [8:18] So when we do what we're doing tonight are we going to get a week ahead again. Because last week we were like we're week ahead we should pick back up next week. Pastor Newms: [8:29] I know we are but that's okay I'm just plugging through hopefully I won't get extremely nauseous directly after this and I won't, not do the post like I'm supposed to do but it will be fine we'll be fine it'll be fine it'll be fine I'll be fine. Pastor Bill: [8:49] That'll be fine. Pastor Newms: [8:51] Several people in the family bible study can't even use, which witch or listen to podcasts so Biggs will realize it glorious realize you know it is all good, I do have a couple other family members that do listen to it when the podcast comes out and we love that they do as well because that's fun. So we'll see if they notice because I'm not going to say anything this time because I said something about it last time but I'm not going to this time and so, we had to cancel it and so I was like okay and it was funny because when we cancelled it didn't the cats like the cats like new so then my my boy cat, Amy and then the other cat that hangs out in my room all the time Shila both, one of them lay on my pillow and one of them laid next to me like okay cool we're not getting up and I'm like how do they know we're not cats cats gravy like so and then we woke up and then we had. Pastor Bill: [9:59] It out of my head. Pastor Newms: [10:12] How. The the best is actually here he's downstairs groggy is and so he Chi is doing her do not leave groggy at all because she, knows that groggy leaves after dinner and he only stays one night and then he leaves and so she's not leaving, his lap, and it's a cert we call it her don't leave ritual because she just follows him around the house when he goes to get a drink or anything and then sits on him the whole time it's really funny so, groggy was some he was actually in town visiting a different family member and he called Tina and he was like can I can I come over, and she's like sure and so he came over. [11:04] And I'd lay down take a nap and so then he gets here and he like you said you called me and he answered the phone well then I had to run out because I bought most of what I needed for dinner but I didn't buy everything. And I was like okay let me go get a couple things and then I'll come home cooked dinner so came home start cooking dinner and I've got nice Grill it's not an amazing girl yeah and and groggy had no intention on spending the night or staying he was just going to stop by because he was in town, and of course that doesn't work because I'm very needy and I tend to beg, and the girls beg all the time so he of course was the cuckoo Castle spend the night so. Pastor Bill: [11:47] Mmm okay fine. Pastor Newms: [11:50] Yeah okay fine especially when Serphiona was like by the way I just made the bed upstairs I cleaned the room and made the bed so you can sleep up there and he's like but I wasn't going to, all right fine it's fine so I start to grill now a couple weeks ago when I grill. [12:10] I told Tina I was like Zaydie look, I need to clean the grill there is too much grease buildup in the bottom of the grill I need to clean the grill I need you to help me remember to clean the grill, I did not remember to clean the grill so I start grilling the burgers no big deal everything's fine everything's fine flipping the burgers once they get the the juice on the top so that. [12:39] You know you know once you know that the juice is risen so then you flip them and you know using cook them low and slow so that way you don't burn them it you know all the things you need to do go inside and I'll make it macaroni and cheese inside and I was making mashed potatoes inside and I was making I think that was all I was making, inside so now go back outside and I flip them all, and there's a little bit of a poof on one of the area's right because that happens when you are cooking Burgers over gasps you know you know cuz, grease and I'm like alright cool no problem tonight, you know Pat the top of the burger is flip you know rotating around because I do have one hot spot in my grill and rotate them all and then I kind of half turn around and the fire has not gone down it has actually caught, the bottom underneath the flame where the grease had built up. That caught fire and so all of a sudden the fire is like taller than me and, it's not hitting the house but it's taller than me and it's just fire and I'm like oh I'm sorry I crack the door and and I'm like. Pastor Bill: [13:56] This sounds familiar. Pastor Newms: [13:58] It does this is why I made you wait so that way you could and I was and I opened the door and I was like water now and they bring me this big thing, and I dump the water on it well if you smother it it does go out and so it did it went out. He's got to use more water than I know it's not how you should handle it huh. Pastor Bill: [14:19] Their edges to catch the water is that what you're saying. Pastor Newms: [14:21] Yeah yeah because they're because it was because it's it's the bottom of the grill it's the inside of the grill so once you dump the water the water you know Smothers the fire that's there, cuz I know I know grease fires

S3Ep93- It Costs How Much... , Pastor Bill And Pastor Newms The Berean Manifesto Pastor Newms: [0:00] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 93, of the BereanManifesto faith hope and love for the modern Christian I'm pastor newms and as recently and almost always I'm joined other side joined by Pastor Bill down here in the corner who doesn't remember that his cameras flipped. Pastor Bill: [0:25] Much which side are you on now I can't remember. Pastor Newms: [0:28] That's okay I have to point to the left to get to the right because it's camera versus stage and it's, yeah yeah so how was your week Pastor Bill. Pastor Bill: [0:46] I was my week well we started playing a new game this week well new to me new update for you. So that was fun I started dedicating time to writing sci-fi again. Pastor Newms: [1:02] That's good. Pastor Bill: [1:03] So that was wheelie satisfying. Pretty much that's it I mean I did my you know much 20 hours this week on my contract labor for that project kids would School nobody got sick. Pastor Newms: [1:20] That's good that's good. Pastor Bill: [1:24] That was that was about it that's that's my week just, do my day-to-day and doing some writing and then playing get some gaming yesterday and little bit of gaming today gaming I would like to resources and building a ship. Pastor Newms: [1:41] Still gaming too. Pastor Bill: [1:42] It is technically still gaming yeah. Pastor Newms: [1:45] Sometimes game. Pastor Bill: [1:47] It's part of the survival games that I actually enjoy collecting the resources and then building the buildings. Pastor Newms: [1:53] Yeah. Pastor Bill: [1:54] All the go out and adventure and kill things and and collect magic staffs from pieces you put together yeah that's fun with friends every once in awhile but I don't want to go out and do that by myself in the game, what about if I just want to collect resources and build things. Pastor Newms: [2:09] Yeah that's that's the big thing about Survival Games is there's the the two aspects of the game there's the resource Gathering the surviving, whether it's purges or or onslaughts or you know different things for different games but being able to, have a base in enjoy those aspects and then there's the actual like game, part of the game where they've got quests and they've got storyline and there's you know and it's interesting with some survival games they have the storyline built in like you know you have to do the story the story is forced upon you there's other survival games for the stories just laying around in notes like Ark where if you go out and look for it there's no story there's very little, as you go through each of the dungeons until you get to the farther like original map I'm talking of course not like the farther ones and then there's a game like, Conan where it's an interesting weird mix of the two where there's NPCs that will talk to you and tell you things about the story but yet, those things don't help you unless you are out. Pastor Bill: [3:31] Really listen. Pastor Newms: [3:33] Like and it's one of those things where like they'll tell you something and you're like okay and then you go do something you're like. Pastor Bill: [3:40] Oh Pastor Newms: [3:42] Okay, and so it's interesting how that how that plays out with survival games which are probably my favorite style of game, and then you've got games like Minecraft that have no story and it's just creative building Gathering. Pastor Bill: [4:04] It's super boring real quick. Pastor Newms: [4:08] So-so so-so. Pastor Bill: [4:13] I mean I'm allowed to make personal statements about how I feel about things. Pastor Newms: [4:17] No you're not. Pastor Bill: [4:18] Minecraft is Just. [4:31] Yeah right I know it's the it's the concept that there is no Adventure there is no greater Adventure out there makes it boring. There's no hope built into the game, it's all just this is all there is just this is all there is. Pastor Newms: [4:50] It's one of the reasons I don't like Shooters is there's no like okay we spawn in we kill each other we spawn out yay we're done. Pastor Bill: [4:59] I don't like multiplayer Shooters but I like Shooters with the storyline. Pastor Newms: [5:15] I think that's my week was good I'm busy work is really busy, got a lot going on at work lot going on it's luckily slow down here at the house I was, not feeling good last week both the girls got sick last week. And so that was that was fun in the middle of the week had lunch with my parents today with my ants that were in town and my grandmother and everyone that was fun so yeah it's been a pretty standard week. Pastor Bill: [6:09] Yeah. Pastor Newms: [6:11] I hate it so much I hate it so much. Pastor Bill: [6:32] We're like why was there such silence on. Pastor Newms: [6:34] What is the most beautiful drive you have ever taken be as descriptive as possible. Pastor Bill: [6:48] Descriptive as Paul what doesn't actually say that. Pastor Newms: [6:50] Want me to pull the next card yeah. [6:58] Let me read this card instead okay of all the movie characters you have ever seen which one do you believe is most like you. [7:13] I wish there was a wee little monitor hanging up there for Bill. Pastor Bill: [7:20] I keep looking up at you. Pastor Newms: [7:22] Oh Pastor Bill: [7:24] But all that's up there is a Rubik's Cube stack of books. My my personal air conditioner. Pastor Newms: [7:33] So what movie character do you most you feel as the most like you that you've ever seen on screen. Do do do do do do do. Pastor Bill: [7:49] Nothing comes to mind. Pastor Newms: [7:50] Zaydie says, a person's name that I have no idea who that is or which movie She's referring to Phoenix says Forrest Gump which is interesting because she, doesn't run oh Cara from Riddick got it got it got it. Pastor Bill: [8:22] All the movies I've seen who is like me. Pastor Newms: [8:25] Mmm. Pastor Bill: [8:27] Ain't nobody like me. Pastor Newms: [8:42] In any movie is like me do we call this one a dud and pull another card. Pastor Bill: [8:47] Yeah let's pull another car at this was. Pastor Newms: [8:50] This is not a good part of my deck it looks like that's that's two cards. Pastor Bill: [8:53] This is getting to know as afternoon the ladies and Pastor newms is house was what that bit was so now let's do getting to know the past. Pastor Newms: [9:02] Punisher is not a good representation of me for two reasons one. I'm not that accurate of a shot and two, I'm not that physically able okay. Pastor Bill: [9:33] It's got to be retail. Pastor Newms: [9:34] Retail store. Pastor Bill: [9:36] A retail store. Pastor Newms: [9:37] Yeah you got to sell something what would your merchandise be. Pastor Bill: [9:44] I mean it's Gotta Be nerd stuff. We're talking like strictly retail. Pastor Newms: [9:53] Yeah. Pastor Bill: [9:58] Doctor Who start yay. Pastor Newms: [10:02] I would want to open up, A8 game / nerd stuff store I would have to say originally I thought of the same first six letters first five letters as you, but it was not stuff that came to my mind at first. You know some shipping material is nerd shipping material. Pastor Bill: [10:36] Look at the still high in transit. Pastor Newms: [10:38] Yeah you got a store things very high in transit full of nerd stuff boxes full of nerd stuff. But games I love games I've always loved games board games card games, just, all kinds of game stuff and then of course obviously I like nerd stuff, but it would definitely be one of those stores where you go into and you're like what is what is the theme here this the I think I would actually call the store nerds, I really do just think of that that would be the name of the store because there's not really any other explanation for what this store is this store is just nerd. Pastor Bill: [11:38] Now you just you call it nerd stuff, but the you is actually the poop emoji, not a you. Pastor Newms: [11:47] Or just new nerd poop emoji. Pastor Bill: [11:53] Well then it didn't it's you're getting a little bit too much to closer to the, in appropriate signage but if you say nerd stuff and then you make that then you know it's appropriate again. Pastor Newms: [12:06] Yeah exactly Phoenix it would be just random crap there'd be the the section of weapons that doesn't make any sense. Pastor Bill: [12:17] Up and was featured in one episode of this show in 1999. Pastor Newms: [12:22] Yeah this is a this is a stick that that was used to beat the third, King Of Who hovel you know just random crud would be the whole it would be just a whole store of just you know it would be like, it'd be like the basement of some of those specialty shops like you know like, on your way to Gatlinburg there's this huge knife store not that kind of specialty shop pervert there's like this huge huge knife store, and then you get into the basement you go down a level and it's like swords and, weapons and gems and rocks and crystals and you're like did they just not know what to do with the rest of this stuff like they just solved it that's a suit of armor what does that have to do with, okay okay okay, just movie memorabilia and stuff just a whole thing stuff which what. Pastor Bill: [13:25] If if we had been talking about like restaurant, I've always thought about opening a taco shop called Taco City but talks talk Cassidy taka City and then make the TAC and then the 0 is just a biohazard symbol, and alike, incorporate like every different type of pepper in the world into a special type of taco and be like okay now we got our habanero Taco we've got our ghost pepper Taco we've got our and use different levels of just just simple simple tacos but, you can get it with a kick and as Tha custody like toxicity but it's how custody I'm us. Pastor Newms: [14:08] I'm with you on it but but but the issue I would have would be the cross-contamination cross contaminate the poblano standard I just want a taco with one. Pastor Bill: [14:22] We would definitely go through a lot of gloves. Pastor Newms: [14:26] Yeah but that cross contamination. Pastor Bill: [14:28] Doing cross contamination. Pastor Newms: [14:29] His just you're going to you're going to burn some little wussy to death like I'd walk up. Pastor Bill: