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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

115 Episodes

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108 minutes | Jan 31, 2023
Real Fake News
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the all-too-real “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17), analyze the bizarre events around PizzaGate, and speak to the delightful Kevin Carolan (Can You Ever Forgive Me?). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 Time Wikipedia - Pizzagate conspiracy theory Wikipedia - Jack Posobiec Southern Poverty Law Center Esquire WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘How Americans can help stop fake news’ by Emily Gersema https://news.usc.edu/179176/how-to-help-stop-fake-news-misinformation-usc-experts/ Next week’s episode will be “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
136 minutes | Jan 24, 2023
Abomination
This week Kara and Liza cover “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8), investigate the horrific practices of the Westboro Baptist Church, and have a fantastic convo with the wonderful Michael Boatman (Spin City, The Good Fight). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 MatthewShepard.com History.com NPR 1 NPR 2 NPR 3 Southern Poverty Law Center 1 Southern Poverty Law Center 2 The Press and Journal The Westboro Baptist Church Website CNN ​​JohnAvlon.com Time Politico The Washington Post WNYC Esquire WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: PFLAG https://pflag.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
4 minutes | Jan 23, 2023
Wondery Presents: Frozen Head
Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid. When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future. And that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads. From Wondery, comes a story about life, death, and what comes next. Follow Frozen Head on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App.   Listen to Frozen Head: Wondery.fm/FH_TMU See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
109 minutes | Jan 17, 2023
Tangled Strands of Justice
This week Kara and Liza go over the episode “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19), untangle a Jane Doe case whose DNA was inappropriately utilized, and have a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Orfeh. SOURCES: NPR 1 NPR 2 NPR 3 Davis Vanguard San Francisco Chronicle 1 San Francisco Chronicle 2 San Francisco Chronicle 3 San Francisco Chronicle 4 ​​California Legislative Information FastDemocracy New York Times 1 New York Times 2 New York Times 3 Electronic Frontier Foundation WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Black Women Revolt https://blackwomenrevolt.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
123 minutes | Jan 10, 2023
Home Invasions
This is a historic episode. This week, Liza and Kara break down “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14) and discuss the disturbing case of Jennifer Pan. Plus, they speak to the legend, the one and only Kelli Giddish aka Detective Amanda Rollins. SOURCES: Wikipedia - Stacey Lannert Wikipedia - Jennifer Pan Toronto Life CBC 1 CBC 2 Northwest Asian Weekly Crime Traveller WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: A Daughter's Deadly Deception: The Jennifer Pan Story https://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459735248-a-daughter-s-deadly-deception Next week’s episode will be “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
113 minutes | Jan 3, 2023
Persona
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the haunting “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). They discuss the lives of three separate women who inspired this episode - Leslie Crocker Snyder, Marie Dean Arrington, and Kiranjit Ahluwalia. And they have a chat with the iconic Clea DuVall. SOURCES: The New Yorker Wikipedia - Leslie Crocker Snyder Wikipedia - Marie Dean Arrington Wikipedia - Kiranjit Ahluwalia We’re History Murderpedia CrimeReads The Guardian Southall Black Sisters WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: DomesticShelters.org https://www.domesticshelters.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
139 minutes | Dec 27, 2022
Intersecting Lives & Heartfelt Passages
This week Kara and Liza do the unthinkable and recap two episodes - “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23), they dissect the horrific crimes of former police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, and they have a riveting chat with Andy Karl aka Sergeant Mike Dodds aka “Baby Dodds.” SOURCES: The Oklahoman Buzzfeed News The New York Times The Washington Post 1 The Washington Post 2 The Washington Post 3 Reuters The Daily Beast CNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Women’s Prison Association https://www.wpaonline.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
125 minutes | Dec 20, 2022
Zebras
This week Liza and Kara discuss the iconic episode “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22), examine the tragic murder of Kendra Webdale, and chat with the legendary Mike Doyle aka Forensics Tech Ryan O'Halloran.  SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Daily News Wikipedia - Kendra's Law New York Magazine Gothamist WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Treatment Advocacy Center https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/ Next week’s episodes will be “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
122 minutes | Dec 13, 2022
Perverted
In this episode, Liza and Kara break down “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). Then they take on faking DNA, the scientific cons of Fred Zain, and the wild world of biker gangs. Plus, they have a great conversation with the wonderful Emma Myles (Orange Is the New Black). SOURCES: Grunge International Journal of Motorcycle Studies Hells-angels.com The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 Forensic Science International Wikipedia - Fred Zain The Herald-Dispatch WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: One Simple Wish https://www.onesimplewish.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
126 minutes | Dec 6, 2022
Dominance
This week Kara and Liza recap “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20), analyze the horrific Wichita Massacre, and chop it up with the delightful Caren Browning aka CSU Captain Judith Siper. SOURCES: The New York Times Oxygen Wichita-massacre.com Newsweek US News The Topeka Capital-Journal Lawrence Journal-World 1 Lawrence Journal-World 2 Wichita State University Forgottenvictims.com CNN The Washington Times CBS News KAKE Kansas State University Foundation Jason Befort Memorial Tournament Mental Floss WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Sibling Bullying and Abuse: The Hidden Epidemic’ by Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFT https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/202002/sibling-bullying-and-abuse-the-hidden-epidemic Next week’s episode will be “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
111 minutes | Nov 29, 2022
Secrets Exhumed
Today Liza and Kara break down the much-requested “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14), recount the unbelievable story behind the murder of Sherri Rasmussen, and have a chat with the iconic Roscoe Orman (Sesame Street). SOURCES: Vanity Fair Wikipedia - Murder of Sherri Rasmussen The Huffington Post All That’s Interesting The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 JCS - Criminal Psychology - The Interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus The Daily News The Atlantic Deadline WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Matthew McGough: The Lazarus Files’ on the Wicked Words podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/matthew-mcgough-the-lazarus-files/id1538204210?i=1000570277307 Next week’s episode will be “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
132 minutes | Nov 22, 2022
Unorthodox
On today’s episode, Liza and Kara recap “Unorthodox” (Season 9, Episode 13), discuss the crimes of Yehuda Kolko and what happened at an Allentown, PA elementary school in 2007. Plus they have a fun chat with the multi-talented Zoe Lister-Jones (Life in Pieces, The Craft: Legacy). SOURCES: The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Post Wikipedia - Yeshiva Torah Temimah Asbury Park Press New York Magazine NBC News The United States Department of Justice Pocono Record The Morning Call WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ZA’AKAH - Dedicated to advocating for survivors of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox Jewish community. https://www.zaakah.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
115 minutes | Nov 15, 2022
Harm
Today Kara and Liza dive into the unsettling episode “Harm” (Season 9, Episode 5), dissect the horrors of Abu Ghraib, and speak to the wonderful Steven Weber (Wings, Chicago Med). SOURCES: The New Yorker 1 The New Yorker 2 NPR The New York Times The Washington Post CNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘The Ballad of Abu Ghraib’ by Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morris https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/301042/the-ballad-of-abu-ghraib-by-philip-gourevitch/ Next week’s episode will be “Unorthodox” (Season 9, Episode 13). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
136 minutes | Nov 8, 2022
Bullseye
This week, Liza and Kara follow the wild twists of “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2), discuss the heartbreaking case of Kim Sa-rang, and have an inspiring chat with the legend, Stephen Tobolowsky (Groundhog Day, Silicon Valley). SOURCES: CNN 1 CNN 2 Kotaku 1 Kotaku 2 The Daily Beast Thought Maybe NBC News Psychiatric News American Psychiatric Association WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘What are the Signs of Video Game Addiction?’ https://www.healthygamer.gg/blog/what-are-the-signs-of-video-game-addiction Next week’s episode will be “Harm” (Season 9, Episode 5). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
128 minutes | Nov 1, 2022
Paternity
Episode 100! This week Kara and Liza recap “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9), discuss the tragic case of Christina Long, and speak to the one and only Isabel Gillies AKA Kathy Stabler! SOURCES: CBS News LA Times FindLaw The News-Times NY Times 1 NY Times 2 Westchester Magazine WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Online Dating and Dating App Safety Tips’ https://www.rainn.org/articles/online-dating-and-dating-app-safety-tips Next week’s episode will be “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
106 minutes | Oct 25, 2022
Alta Kockers
Liza and Kara break down the seminal episode “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10), unearth the story of the fabled Collyer brothers, and talk to the gregarious thespian and teacher Michael Kostroff (The Wire, Billions). SOURCES: Wikipedia - Murder of Angie Zapata Glaad.org The Denver Post Wikipedia - JT LeRoy Vanity Fair Wikipedia - Collyer brothers New York Daily News Amusing Planet All That's Interesting NY Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Angie Zapata Murder: Violence Against Transgender People Resource Kit https://www.glaad.org/resourcekits/angiezapata Next week’s episode will be “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
121 minutes | Oct 18, 2022
Svengali
Kara and Liza discuss “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6), explore the astonishing case of Veronica Compton and her love for “The Hillside Strangler,” and have a wonderful chat with the super talented Shannon Woodward (Westworld, Raising Hope). SOURCES: Buffalo News United Press International AP News 9News - Denver Criminal Minds Wiki Observer-Reporter Wikipedia - Kenneth Bianchi A&E Grunge The Seattle Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘Women Who Love Men Who Kill: 35 True Stories of Prison Passion, The 21st Century Edition, Updated with New Cases’ by Sheila Isenberg https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/women-who-love-men-who-kill-sheila-isenberg/1140178649 Next week’s episode will be “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
128 minutes | Oct 11, 2022
Maternal Instincts
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6), discuss the strange case of violinist Stefan Arzberger, and have a phenomenal chat with cool dad, Zach McGowan (Shameless, Black Sails). SOURCES: New York Times 1 New York Times 2 New York Post People Limelight Magazine Newsday WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘5 Strategies to Cope With Toxic Family Members’ by Abigail Brenner M.D. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/in-flux/202204/5-strategies-cope-toxic-family-members Next week’s episode will be “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
120 minutes | Oct 4, 2022
Double Strands
The ladies recap the infamous episode “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre case of Darrin Fernandez, as well as the crimes of the "The East Coast Rapist." Plus, Kara and Liza sit down with an SVU regular, the wonderful Karen Tsen Lee. SOURCES: Mental Floss South Coast Today WCVB News 24 Wikipedia - East Coast Rapist Washington Post 1 Washington Post 2 Washington Post 3 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘One Twin Committed the Crime — but Which One? A New DNA Test Can Finger the Culprit’ by Carl Zimmer https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/science/twins-dna-crime-paternity.html Next week’s episode will be “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
127 minutes | Sep 27, 2022
Plastic
Kara and Liza recount the episode “Plastic” (Season 20, Episode 11), explore the unsettling crimes of Grant Robicheaux and Cerissa Riley, and chop it up with the magnificent Mark Feuerstein (Royal Pains, Wet Hot American Summer: Ten Years Later). SOURCES: LA Times 1 LA Times 2 LA Times 3 LA Times 4 Deadline CBS News 1 CBS News 2 Wikipedia - Grant Robicheaux Buzzfeed HeySoCal MyNewsLA.com WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Date Rape Drugs - Office on Women’s Health https://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/date-rape-drugs Next week’s episode will be “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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