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That Makes Total Sense!

189 Episodes

62 minutes | Mar 20, 2023
Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)
In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a … Continue reading Episode 188 – Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)
58 minutes | Mar 13, 2023
Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)
Natalia Kohn Rivera is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see … Continue reading Episode 187 – Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)
64 minutes | Mar 6, 2023
Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder
Reading Caryn Reeder‘s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it … Continue reading Episode 186 – Caryn Reeder
61 minutes | Feb 27, 2023
Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap
A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But … Continue reading Episode 185 – Kyle Meyaard-Schaap
72 minutes | Feb 20, 2023
Episode 184 – Drew Jackson
I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … Continue reading Episode 184 – Drew Jackson
84 minutes | Feb 13, 2023
Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel
Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she’s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you’re not a parent….don’t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, … Continue reading Episode 183 – Bekah McNeel
79 minutes | Feb 6, 2023
Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter
This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny’s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … Continue reading Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter
59 minutes | Jan 29, 2023
Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield
Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I’ve been processing lately – missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still … Continue reading Episode 181 – Craig Greenfield
56 minutes | Jan 22, 2023
Episode 180 – Sara Billups
The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it’s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980’s and 1990’s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end … Continue reading Episode 180 – Sara Billups
55 minutes | Jan 16, 2023
Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … Continue reading Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
57 minutes | Jan 8, 2023
Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard
It’s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to … Continue reading Episode 178 – Beth Birmingham & Eeva Sallinen Simard
75 minutes | Jan 1, 2023
Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren
We’re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. … Continue reading Episode 177 – Michelle Ferrigno Warren
65 minutes | Dec 26, 2022
Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)
On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God’s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on … Continue reading Episode 176 – Sarah Quezada (re-release!)
65 minutes | Dec 19, 2022
Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)
This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home … Continue reading Episode 175 – Scott Erickson (re-release!)
59 minutes | Dec 12, 2022
Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha
This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … Continue reading Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha
58 minutes | Dec 5, 2022
Episode 173 – Kelly Flanagan
Generally speaking, I am *not* a novel-reading, fiction-loving kind of girl, but….I loved Kelly Flanagan’s new release The Unhiding of Elijah Campbell! And, I am so thrilled to welcome Kelly back to the podcast. He first came on to speak about his book, True Companions which was a game-changer for me as well. Kelly is … Continue reading Episode 173 – Kelly Flanagan
57 minutes | Nov 28, 2022
Episode 172 – Marlena Graves
Three words at the top of Marlena Grave‘s website sum it up: Jesus. Formation. Justice. These are the foci of what she does as a writer, professor, thinker, mother, wife, community activist, advocate, speaker, and so much more. She and her husband, Shawn, have co-edited a book along those lines called The Gospel of Peace … Continue reading Episode 172 – Marlena Graves
55 minutes | Nov 21, 2022
Episode 171 – Josh Buck
Josh Buck is back on the podcast! The last time Josh joined me, he shared about his dissertation research into the Charleston Massacre. He also let us know he had a book set to release and now it’s here! When I began reading Everyday Activism, I surprised myself at how many dog-eared pages and underlined … Continue reading Episode 171 – Josh Buck
55 minutes | Nov 14, 2022
Episode 170 – Blaine Hogan
Blaine Hogan writes, acts, directs, and was formerly on staff at a megachurch. He has also honored us in writing a book holding his deepest, darkest secrets and allowing us to learn from his experiences and reflections. In this conversation, we talk about the hard work of healing, recovery, and ministry in the midst of … Continue reading Episode 170 – Blaine Hogan
57 minutes | Nov 7, 2022
Episode 169 – Soong-Chan Rah
Soong-Chan Rah is a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (I took a course with him and it was a total blast!). He has also served in ministry as a pastor and studied American Evangelicalism. One of the topics Soong-Chan is known for is the church and social justice. In Return to Justice, he explores the … Continue reading Episode 169 – Soong-Chan Rah
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