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38 minutes | Mar 1, 2020
John Chambers: Changes, macro and micro, that create value for all of us – SD91
By his own admission, John Chambers likes action. In the times I have chatted with him and seen him speak, his energy and desire to create positive change emanates out of him. And positive change is what he is enabling through his life’s many aspects: start-ups; helping corporates innovate in a way that suits them best (ie not trying to be like a startup); working with people to help them grow; seeking ways to grow awareness and connection with Aboriginal Australians. After getting to know John a bit more, it becomes apparent that behind this desire for action and change is a willingness to listen, reflect, and humbly grow. It was excellent to talk with John and to hear the ways in which he has been challenged and had to change through the ventures and adventures he has untaken. Currently, John is one of the Managing Partners at IE, an organisation that helps other organisations innovate and bring their ideas to market. He also hosts a podcast of his own, The Corporate Innovator, in which he talks with visionary corporate leaders, makers and advisors from around the globe. If you enjoyed listening to John, you may also enjoy our conversation with Amantha Imber on applying science to the art of innovation, or Gus Hervey on being intelligently optimistic about the change we can make in the world.
47 minutes | Dec 15, 2019
Ian Banyard: Getting lost in nature to find our true nature – SD90
Nature can provide inspiration to many of us, but it’s been particularly significant to Naturepreneur, Ian Banyard, who been discovering how reconnecting with the natural world is key to saving both ourselves and our planet. In our first Subtle Disruptor interview outside of Australia, Richard Holmes talks to Ian Banyard from the UK about his personal journey into natural mindfulness, and the role nature plays in helping us all feel healthier, happier and more peaceful. As we experience living in an ever-changing, fast-paced, busy world, Ian encourages us to find an opportunity to get outside, pause, breathe and unburden our busy minds through appreciating the natural world around us. He helps us reflect on how trees have grown from seed using the abundance of resources around them, and encourages us, as human beings to reflect on what we have near us that can help us to thrive. Richard and Ian also discuss how more people are taking inspiration from nature to inform how they develop themselves and their organisations as they move towards evolutionary thinking, leaving the mechanical world behind. You can find out more about Ian at www.cotswoldnaturalmindfulness.co.uk If you do enjoy listening to Ian, you may also enjoy listening to Sieta Beckwith on falling in love with the earth again, Jordan Osmond on living the change we want to see in the world, and Masha Gorodilova on bringing stillness to our talkative urban minds.
58 minutes | Nov 30, 2019
Athalia Zwartz: Enabling external change through internal work – SD89
It was an unexpected act of generosity that enabled the organisation led by this episode’s guest to be in the position it is today. A donation of a property in Melbourne’s Toorak over 50 years ago is now impacting a large number of people, all living with the intention of bringing about positive change in the world. For some of these people, it is their place of work. For others, it is where they live as part of a community. Others drop in from time to time either casually or part of workshops or other regular catchups. It is an organisation that up until recently has described itself as an organism. Through some very careful and courageous change work, this group of people have been able to let go of what they once were to embrace what they could be. The organisation is called Initiatives of Change, Australia, and our guest is the Executive Officer Athalia Zwartz. I have had a number of interactions with Athalia where I have experienced her love of people, her desire for depth and honesty, her kindness and conviction. I felt all of these in our conversation together, which I hope you enjoy as well. If you do enjoy listening to Athalia, you may also enjoy listening to Gilbert Rochecouste on creating long-lasting change within a city, Maria Cameron or suburban communities, or Matt Wicking on cultivating an awareness of ourselves and our context.
53 minutes | Jun 8, 2019
Sieta Beckwith: Falling in love with the earth again – SD88
I reach down and touch the dirt and realise that it has been days, or perhaps weeks since I have made this simple contact. I wonder about this and remember the joy I once experienced as and child of playing in the dirt. Along with the theme of deep listening that has been emerging through recent episodes of this podcast, there is also another theme of remembering something that we intuitively knew as children and this that our ancestors knew intimately. In this episode, I talk with Seita Beckwith about remember what it is to be in love with the earth again, and with the process of bringing spirituality and action together to give birth to something good. If you do enjoy listening to Sieta, you may also enjoy listening to Katerina Gaita on conversations the create a climate for change, Candice Smith on deep listening and creating environments for our best thinking or Matt Wicking on cultivating an awareness of ourselves and our context.
66 minutes | Apr 14, 2019
Melanie Knight: Expression, connection, creativity and conviction – SD87
Something happened to me when I was about 8 years old – I somehow developed a belief that I was not creative, that I could not draw. I stopped drawing from that point on and dreaded going to art class each week. Flash forward 30 years I am sitting down at a table with my son at his kindergarten. In front of us is a sheet of paper and some pencils. He asks me to draw him something. I freeze. That same belief is still there: “My son is asking me to draw…but I can’t draw!”. But I can see the anticipation in his eyes and decide to give it my best shot. I was amazed at what actually flowed out of my body and through my pencil. Perhaps I was wrong about my ability to draw, but what seemed to be even more important was how I felt because of the drawing I was doing. It was liberating and awakening. And of course, my son loved every line. My guest for this week is Melanie Knight. She curates experience like the one I had with my son in his kindergarten, where adults can tap back into a creativity and expression that may have been dormant since their childhood years. Dr Sketchy’s is an experience specifically focus on drawing, and Dead Letter Club is about remembering what it was like to make up a story and a character through the medium of hand-writing letters. I enjoyed the depth of discussion with Melanie in this conversation. I love her ability to show up just as she is, to bring what she sees as valuable and important into the world. If you do enjoy listening to Melanie, you may also enjoy listening to Kate Challis on the connection between design and wellbeing, Mykel Dixon on bringing the artist in all of us back into the workplace, or Luke Hockley on creating settings where we can safely explore our expression.
66 minutes | Mar 15, 2019
The three Adams (Ashton, Jones and Murray): The multiplying effect of an aligned duo – SD86
I find the idea of solo consulting appealing. Something about backing myself in. About have a degree of self-direction and autonomy. In some ways, I find this liberating way of working manifesting more in the organisations I work in: employees being empowered to manage themselves and bring their whole self to work. But it is the in-between space of these two extremes, between solo and organisation, that I find most interesting. The small, aligned team working with a common purpose on an endeavour. I have experienced this a couple of times in my life, once at school, once within a small business, and the results and experience have been magic. It is what attracted me most to having a conversation with Adam Ashton and Adam Jones. There is plenty to be interested in how they have gone about creating an excellent podcast, interviewing some of the world’s best authors and giving insights into the best books on the market. But there is something fascinating behind this output that has enabled them to create something special. Something in the way two people who connect, are aligned in values and purpose, and who have a lot of fun together can create something meaningful. If you do enjoy listening to Adam Jones and Adam Ashton, you may also enjoy listening to Matt Allen on getting the team right before thinking about anything else, Harvee Pene and Ben Walker about their journey of cofounding a purposeful business, or Laurie Ingram on his creative partnership with Andrew Town.
59 minutes | Feb 15, 2019
Candice Smith: Creating environments that enable our best thinking – SD85
I attended a workshop last year where I learnt about the elements that go into creating a space where people can access their best thinking. It is a framework called The Thinking Environment, created by Nancy Kline based on 40 years of research. I was moved by how quickly I connected with each of the participants of the workshop, simply by allowing them to access their best thinking and in the process gaining an insight into them I would never have had. I wondered if this was one of those workshop moments where it works so well in the curated setting of a facilitated gathering, or if it could be translated back to my everyday interactions. To my surprise and delight it translated directly, and over the subsequent months, I have applied many of the ideas of The Thinking Environment to my workplace interactions with startling outcomes. The buzz during these meetings and the feedback I have received afterwards are like nothing I have regularly experienced before. The facilitator of that workshop was Candice Smith, somebody who embodies what it means to connect deeply with others and allow them to do their best thinking. I was humbled and impressed by the presence and wisdom she brought to the process. I wanted to know more about her story and how we can all improve the quality of our thinking. We had an excellent conversation about these, and other, things during this episode. If you do enjoy listening to Candice, you may also enjoy listening to Lina Patel on listening to herself, Marsha Gorodilova on calming an over-excited mind, or Matt Wicking on cultivating an awareness of ourselves and our context.
53 minutes | Jan 12, 2019
Jason T Smith: Divulging power for greater impact – SD84
Thinking about organisational structures and organisational design are two of my interests, and gratefully I also get paid to implement these ideas through my job as a consultant. That’s why it was excellent to talk with Jason T Smith, founder and CEO of the Back In Motion Health Group, an organisation which has undergone a not too common transformation over the past few years. Titles and hierarchy were taken away, with a new model created that more closely resembled an evolving ecosystem that embraces change and encourages frank feedback. If you do enjoy listening to Jason, you may also enjoy listening to Amantha Imber on creating innovative organisations, or Bec Brideson on removing the masculine-tinted glasses from our organisations.
80 minutes | Dec 8, 2018
Luke Hockley: Drawing deeply to enable self-love, belonging, insight, and action – SD83
Deep listening is a theme that has emerged from the last few conversations. Listening is about slowing down, about building empathy, and deep respect for another human and their thinking being. This week my guest is Luke Hockley, and the theme of listening once again emerges. Luke is a performer who is listening to himself and creating spaces where others can be seen and heard. But Luke does not stop here: he and draws upon listening as a precursor to action. Listening, movement, contemplation and expression: we explore some of my favourite topics in this conversation, and I hope you enjoy listening. If you do enjoy listening to Luke, you may also enjoy listening to Carmen Hawker or Summer Edwards.
52 minutes | Nov 17, 2018
Katerina Gaita: Conversations that create a ’climate for change’ – SD82
The implications of a 2-degree rise in temperatures had never really sunk in for me. Needless to say, neither had those of a 3-degree increase or 5-degree increase. Listening to a conversation at The Wheeler Centre recently made the potential challenges of rapid climate change significantly more real for me. Soon afterwards I found myself channel surfing free-to-air TV. It’s not something I normally do but I stumbled across a program about the First Australians living near Alice Springs at the time of European arrival. I was taken by the contrast between the intimate and ancient connection between land and people of the First Australians, and the brutality and arrogance of the European Australians. Contemplating these two experiences over the next few days, I started to feel a sense of grief. I had heard about this happening to others before but dismissed it as over-sentimentalism and something irrelevant to a truster in humans’ ability to adapt, like myself. The grief grew slowly. I contemplated that abruptness of the change First Australian’s experienced after tens of thousands of years living close to the land. I found myself thinking that things do sometimes change quickly and dramatically for the worse. I also contemplated all that has been lost or continues to be ignored. First Australians have much to teach later coming Australians about taking care of a place with tens of future generations in mind. We have treated our environment with such disdain and complacency, and have lost so much of its beauty. This experience is what prompted me to reach out to one of the speakers from that event at The Wheeler Centre. Her name is Katerina Gaita, and she is the guest on this week’s episode. Katerina experienced her own degree of grief for our planet, albeit quite a few years before I did. She wrestled with it for quite some time, wondering if there was any point in trying to do anything about it. As she thought about this, she asked herself, “Have I given up hope?” When the answers was a clear “No”, Katerina decided to do all she could to start to reduce and reverse the impacts of rapid climate change. Katerina and I had a hopeful and contemplative conversation about the reality of the time we are living in, the possible ways of making a meaningful impact, and how each of us can contribute to this with a relatively small amount of effort, and achievable change to how we live. It was a poignant and uplifting conversation, and I hope you enjoy listening. If you do enjoy listening to Katerina, you may also enjoy listening to Patrick Jones or Matt Wicking.
50 minutes | Oct 27, 2018
Oscar Trimboli: Deep listening, or slowing down to go faster – SD81
As he listens, Oscar enables the speaker to uncover meaning inside them they were previously unable to articulate. And he is on a mission to enable millions to interact in this way.
58 minutes | Sep 22, 2018
Lina Patel: Playing at the edge of what’s possible and what’s permitted – SD80
Lina Patel plays well with edges: between joy and ferocity; between what is permitted and what is possible; and between power and purpose.
63 minutes | Aug 16, 2018
Gilbert Rochecouste: Subtly disrupting Melbourne – SD79
Gilbert Rochecouste has played an enormous, behind the scenes role in shaping Melbourne to be the city it is today.
81 minutes | Jun 12, 2018
David Holmgren: Principles of permaculture for a retrofitted suburbia – SD78
For forty years David Holmgren has been part of a worldwide movement of subtle disruption through co-originating permaculture. His latest book is a handbook on how to apply permaculture principles to the living arrangements most of us occupy today: suburbia.
57 minutes | May 3, 2018
Garry Williams: Subtle disruption through trying, failing, learning, and allowing – SD77
Garry Williams has navigated his way out of the corporate world, through General Assembly, Inspire9, FuckUp Nights Melbourne, and now working to help nurture Melbourne's innovation community at the University of Melbourne.
43 minutes | Apr 12, 2018
Bec Brideson: Connecting with women for business success – SD76
Women are becoming the dominant driving force of many economies. From education, to salaries, to being the decision maker on purchase: women are turning the tables. But business is slow to catch on, with many brands still connecting to the masculine over the feminine. Bec Brideson is helping to correct this.
55 minutes | Mar 19, 2018
Jordan Osmond: ‘Living the change’ – SD75
Stories of impending doom can have a numbing and resigning impact. But there are changes we can all make that will not only help create a movement that averts environmental crisis, but can enable us to live more connected, flourishing and well lives.
51 minutes | Nov 30, 2017
Megan Davis: Tapping into narrative to compel and connect – SD74
Most organisations have a mission statement, vision statement, values, and now even a purpose. But as useful as they are in setting the direction of an organisation, they can be very difficult to recall without having them in front of you. They tend to become dry bits of information in and of themselves, but when brought together with a relevant story they become full of life and meaning.
48 minutes | Nov 16, 2017
Sheree Rubinstein: Creating a space for female founders to thrive – SD73
There is a gender imbalance amount female entrepreneurs and business founders. One Roof is a coworking community designed specifically to help correct this, designed with intentionality to meet the needs of women in business leadership.
43 minutes | Nov 2, 2017
Kyrstie Barcak: The catalysing benefits of growing just one thing – SD72
Kyrstie's book, Grow Just One Thing, is a perfect way to describe subtle disruption. If we are able to make one small change, the benefits of that change can be disproportionate to the change, and enable us to bring many other positive things into our lives. Kyrstie's way of doing this is to encourage all of us to start growing one thing in our garden or house.
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