133 minutes | Sep 10th 2019

Episode 18: Religious Fictionalism: Does It Help Christianity

Professor Philip Goff joins Matthew and Andrew to discuss his approach to Christianity -- Religious Fictionalism. Along with an early discussion about the nature of reality, Matthew and Andrew talk with Philip about whether one needs to adopt Christianity as true to benefit from its teachings. Philip makes a compelling case for accepting the good in religion through understanding its metaphors, symbols, and social constructs, without needing to adopt as fact every claim of religion.

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Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness

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Religion But Not As We know It

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