The Practice of Building a More Inclusive Community - Intro Part 1
Intro Part 1 - In this new State of Inclusion podcast sub-series, we will use what we've learned from all of our conversations, along with our research, to suggest an approach, a practice for building a more inclusive world one community at a time. In this first episode I'll introduce you to Emma Winiski, my partner in this work and this series. We will also introduce four foundational or cornerstone concepts that underly The Practice of Building a More Inclusive Community.We are very interested in hearing your feedback on these intro episodes. Also, we are actively looking for a few communities that might be interested in exploring these ideas further and perhaps working with us to help test and tune some of these concepts. If you have comments, feedback, or are interested in learning more - email us at info@stateofinclusion.com Related State of Inclusion Podcast Episodes:Getting to Better in My HometownBuilding a Practice of Community Abundance - with De'Amon HargesEquity Warriors - Emma Winiski Find additional resources on Adaptive Leadership.There are many great resources about wicked problems, but this site has a good introduction.Find resources for asset based community development at the ABCD Institute, at DePaul University. Bio Emma Winiski:Emma Winiski is a second year Master in Public Policy candidate at the Harvard Kennedy School. Previously, she worked as a researcher in the Health Policy Center at the Urban Institute, where her work focused on substance use disorders. In 2018, Emma started working with Ame at State of Inclusion as she finished her undergraduate degree at Furman University. TranscriptAme Sanders 00:11Hi. This is Ame Sanders from State of Inclusion. If you've been listening for a while, or maybe even if you just discovered the State of Inclusion podcast, you may know that for the last several years we've been on a journey-- a journey of research, discovery, and most importantly of conversation. In these conversations, we've heard how individuals all across the country are working to make their communities more equitable, more inclusive, and more just. We've talked with people who are working with and within their city governments, in museums, in nonprofits. We've talked with people who are working across their faith community. We've talked with artists, librarians, filmmakers, and we've talked with people who are acknowledging the past and are focused on remembrance and healing, as well as people who come at this work with a decidedly forward-looking orientation.In this new State of Inclusion podcast series, we will use what we've learned from these conversations along with our research to suggest an approach, a practice for building a more inclusive world one community at a time. I'm joined today on the first episode of this new podcast series by Emma Winiski. Welcome, Emma. Emma Winiski 01:32Thank you! Happy to be here. Ame Sanders 01:34So, Emma works behind the scenes to help me put the podcast together and today she's going to join me on the audio portion of the podcast as a thought partner, a collaborator, and join in the conversation. So Emma, tell us a little bit about yourself.Emma Winiski 01:51Yeah. So, my name is Emma Winiski. I'm the Podcast Coordinator here, but I've been with Ame and with State of Inclusion since 2018 when I was a senior at Furman. So, we've been working for many years togethe and I've really, really enjoyed this work. Outside of this, I just finished my first year of the Master's in Public Policy Program at Harvard, and before then I was a researcher in the Health Policy Center at the Urban Institute in DC. Ame Sanders 02:20Yeah, so Emma has been working with me since 2018. So, she's been part of our research and part of all of our podcasts that we've done. In fact, she was my first podcast interview. And, I guess I should admit to the audience that you're the reason we even have this new series, because I remember there was a point in the process where I was trying to figure out what direction to go next and what interviews to line up and you help me line up our interviews and I asked you about that. Do you remember what you told me? Emma Winiski 02:54Probably not verbatim, but I'm guessing it was something like, "You've talked to a lot of really, really interesting people doing really, really important work. And I think for the listeners, sort of distilling those down into something that is more actionable, is probably a good idea at this point." Ame Sanders 03:11That sounds a lot like what you told me. Maybe not verbatim but really close. So, it is what prompted me to work on this series and to put down some of the ideas from the conversations that we've had with all these wonderful people. There has been a lot of wisdom in these conversations that we've had. So, I hope that we can do some justice to it in terms of summarizing and synthesizing what we've learned and putting it in some sort of order for people to be able to consume. I just want to thank you for being a thought partner, as we've gone along in this and I'm looking forward to talking to you about these things that we found so far in the in the podcast. Emma Winiski 03:48Yeah, thank you. I really, really enjoy this work. Ame Sanders 03:52Okay, so let's talk about this new podcast series. In the coming episodes together, Emma and I will synthesize and share the ideas that we've heard from our conversations and found in our research. But what it is not is it's not finished, it's not tested, it's not proven. All of those kinds of things that you would hope eventually we would be able to do. What was clear to me before, but I would say is even more clear to me now, is that there is no formula, no recipe for making a community more inclusive and equitable. You know, every community is unique and different. Every community has their own set of resources, their own starting point, their own history, and has their own ambition. So again, there's no recipe or formula, but I believe it's somewhere between this idea of a recipe or formula, and just random acts of inclusion and equity, there is something for us to talk about. I think there's something that we can lay out and share together that can help us approach this work in a smarter way. So, I don't have to tell you guys who are listening, this work is complicated. It's difficult and it's often unclear. In some cases, and especially for some people, it can be dangerous. The amount of work that you put in doesn't immediately translate to the same amount or equal amounts of output. So, progress seems to come in fits and spurts. Sometimes you work really hard and you don't see any progress. In fact, you feel like you may be backing up. But then all of a sudden, you see your community take a big step forward. The work of building a more inclusive and equitable community also requires trust. And Stephen Covey is credited with saying that "change moves at the speed of trust." Sometimes in a community, that means the trust has to be built or it has to be rebuilt if it has been broken. We also have to realize that this work is multi-generational. This is something that has been going on long before Emma and I started working, or any of the folks that we've talked to started working. We can build on the things that have gone on before. This work exists in a context of people who are working alongside us in different ways towards the same objectives and people who are working towards entirely different objectives. This work will also continue long after we're gone. So, I don't know if this intimidates you or scares you a little bit but it does me sometimes. But I think it's shouldn't stop us. It shouldn't stop us at all. So, if it is our goal to build a more inclusive and equitable community, then where do we start? In this new podcast series, we will introduce you to six areas of practice that make up the practice of building a more inclusive community. Before we start, it's important to share four common foundational or cornerstone concepts. These inform and shape the nature of each of the practices. You could say they are the foundation the practices are built on. So, first is the domain or where we're going to work. Emma, we had a lot of conversations--I don't know if you remember this--about whether we should work at the community level, the state level, the federal level. Do you remember our discussions around that? Emma Winiski 07:10I remember going through and providing feedback on some potential interview questions for an interviewee and I kept saying, "More federal. More federal. Like, where's the policy?" I think I was very much influenced by my location in DC. But, the answer is it's everything. It's not one or the other. I think the beauty and the importance of the podcast is its giving voice for people who are working in their local communities with all of the unique aspects and challenges that they have. But, the podcast provides a format to draw some themes that folks across the country and in different sectors who are committed to this type of work are still facing. So, you can see some of the specific things that only someone really embedded in a community can discover. And then you can say, "Oh, we had a similar type of problem in my community. We approached to different ways, maybe the outcome was different." Obviously, community work is so important, and you need some federal policy to back it up as well. Ame Sanders 08:16Yeah. So, it's clear you need work in all different levels. This work that we're doing at State of Inclusion, though, as you've alluded to, is community-centered. That doesn't mean that there isn't work that's needed at federal level or in the regional level. But this conversation is a local and community-based conversation. I want to be clear to about what we mean by community. So, I picked up a definition of community that says a group of interdependent organisms inhabiting the same region and interacting with each other (so interdependent) and interacting with each other. So, I
