17 minutes | Jun 30th 2020

75. A Box with Feelings, with Macy Watson

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To celebrate the 75th episode of Spiritual Life and Leadership, I'm bringing a short conversation with my twelve-year-old daughter, Macy Watson.  We talk about her thoughts on God and we talk about leadership.

Oh, and what the heck is "a box with feelings"?  Well, you'll just have to listen to find out!


  • Markus interviews his daughter, Macy, about her thoughts on 1) God and the spiritual life and 2) leadership.
  • Macy thinks of God as the most understanding Person ever.
  • Macy sometimes thinks of herself as “a box with feelings”.
  • Macy shares her experience as captain of her cheer team.
  • Macy believes forcing people to do what you want them to do is bad leadership.
  • Markus explains to Macy the metaphor of “the carrot and the stick.”


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