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Since starting our company, we’ve had some really interesting conversations about the vast difference between how men and women do things in the business space. Most female business owners we know (including ourselves), for example, actively work on their money mindset, struggle to trust their decisions, and have perfectionist tendencies… …While the startup DudebrosTM of the world sail through business (and life) like it was made for them. This obvious discrepancy arises from the way women have been socialized for generations. We’ve been trained to be hesitant about our offerings because the idea of pleasing everyone else, constantly asking for permission, and doubting our own skills and abilities has been reinforced throughout our lives. It’s no mystery that these blocks show up in our businesses too. And it shows in how little female-owned businesses make each year despite their abundance. Our male counterparts are quite the opposite in their behavior, and after interacting with so many of them as well as paying close attention to business personalities in the media, we’ve come up with a list of “lessons” that we’ve picked up over the years. Some of these insights are extremely liberating, effective, and empowering. And it would actually do us a fair amount of good to be able to inculcate them in how we operate our businesses. But for the ones we don’t agree with, well, a little bit of humor never hurt anyone. Here’s what you can expect from this episode: Why most women choose people-pleasing over doing what they really want The importance of taking imperfect action How women are socialized to believe that their approach is the wrong approach  Healthy humility vs. blind confidence Believing in the value of your work and how that translates to the clients who need your services Choosing yourself instead of asking for permission  The avenues available for learning in today’s world We really enjoyed recording this one because it was a healthy dose of fun along with some truths that we deal with every day as female business owners. If you struggle with feeling confident about your actions and offerings (or are just in the mood for a laugh), this is the perfect episode for you to cozy up and tune in to!  And once you’re done listening, don’t forget to connect with us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and share your thoughts! This Week’s Joy: Sandy is absolutely obsessed with her giant new Alocasia macrorrhiza (Giant Taro) plant and its massive leaves! It brings a lot of joy and positivity to her space, and it’s the first thing she checks on when she enters her condo.  This Week’s Hustle: Our Visibility Crash Course is 8+ years of our online marketing lessons condensed into a 5-day program that will help you amplify your voice as an online creator, show up more authentically in your business, and communicate effectively with the clients who need you. Learn more here! RESOURCES: Coursera Hey Marvelous Visibility Crash Course  This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses, memberships, and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

You know the feeling when you come home, and it’s like you just clocked into your second job? So many women feel the crushing weight of taking care of everything at home without asking for help from their partners or getting outside assistance.  Why?  Because that help is associated with guilt. And because they find it difficult to delegate or leave space for other members of the home to contribute, they cultivate a constant feeling of resentment and irritability towards the unpaid domestic and emotional labor that they’re putting in. But the truth is that these expectations are self-imposed.  And they’re yet another direct and unfair consequence of internalized patriarchy. Today, we’re revisiting a conversation that we began about three years ago when we published episode 126: The Value Of A Wife. And in this one, we discuss Jeni’s recent step back from trying to take care of her home alone. We get into how opening a dialogue about the situation with her loved ones has made a difference and what she did when she realized that she just couldn’t fold everybody’s socks anymore.  Here’s what you can expect from this one: An honest recap of Jenni’s thought process when she decided that something needed to change Why asking for help feels so wrong (and why we need to stop thinking that way) How treating your home like a second workplace can affect your mental health Why + how we internalize patriarchal expectations The domestic labor of decision making The importance of being intentional with your time, energy, and money If these feelings resonate with you, we hope that this episode helps you understand that they’re stemming from something large and systemic. You are not alone in your responsibilities, and the people who love you will be more than willing to share the load so that you can take the break you deserve.  And if you enjoyed this episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) so that we can continue the conversation! This Week’s Joy Jeni has her eyes glued to shop-tend.com, an online store that sells beautiful vintage nightgowns (albeit all currently sold out) that inspire the free wandering spirit in her. RESOURCES: Drop The Ball by Tiffany Dufu shop-tend.com Visibility Week – Visibility Crash Course

Web3 has revolutionized the digital art space.   But it’s also a difficult concept to master, especially with all the misinformation floating around.  However, with the right guidance and education, the world of Web3 is super easy to navigate.    That, my friend, is where we come in!  We’re giving you the best possible introduction to this world by roping in an expert who can be a safe, reliable, and knowledgeable guide – Sofia Garcia!   Sofia is a generative art dealer, art curator, and the founder of ARTXCODE and the nonprofit, CodeArt.  Her journey from her first computer class in Miami to her first NFT art show is fascinating. And what began with curiosity and a step in the right direction has evolved into an exciting career in digital art curation.  Sofia is amazing at simplifying the concept of generative art and breaking it down to help people understand how the gears turn. And in this week’s episode, she’s sharing it all with us!    Here’s what you can expect from this one: What generative art is, where it came from, and how it’s bought and sold today NFTs explained like you’re five + how to incorporate them into your business Sofia’s experience in the digital art world and how it led her to art curation How selling art in the form of NFTs is more beneficial to artists than physical art An understanding of how generative art is minted onto the blockchain The future of generative art (and why it’s getting brighter) Tons of resources to introduce you to the generative art world We gained a wealth of knowledge from this conversation. But more than that, Sofia helped humanize the art NFT space with her warmth and genuine passion for the work that she’s doing.   We hope this episode ignites your curiosity and helps you learn more about this sphere of possibility. Get your pen and paper ready because there are some nuggets of gold in this one! This Week’s Joy: Sofia loves taking a workout break in the middle of the day with some Hot Yoga and she’s really been enjoying her current routine. This Week’s Hustle:  The Superhuman email client is a lifesaver for anyone itching to hit inbox zero. It organizes your emails into folders, comes with premade snippets, and has gorgeous UI to top it all off! Sofia’s big 2022 resolution was to be as organized as possible and she’s been using Monday.com to help her get there! It’s a super-effective way to keep track of the artists she’s working with, the orders she’s receiving, and those currently in progress. 

Web3 is upon us.  And if you struggle to understand it, you aren’t alone. In addition to being an  extremely male-dominated space, it’s also stuffed to the brim with jargon, all sorts of things we never learned in school, and a heckuva lot of uncertainty. (And what’s up with the cryptobros and apes, really?) But a few decades ago, people felt the same about the internet. And now, we can’t imagine life without it.  NFTs, cryptocurrency, the blockchain and are the result of the evolution of the internet into something more secure, integrated, and functional. And we can already see the effects on several industries like finance, online events, and digital art.  In this week’s episode, we’re talking more about Web3, cryptocurrency, and why we as creators and business owners need to learn more about this industry.  Here’s what you can expect from this one: Why crypto will affect how you live, work, and buy in the future no matter what business you’re in The importance of participating in the Web3 conversation as a female business owner or creator A foundational understanding of Web3 terms that we hear all the time (blockchain, NFTs, smart contracts, and more!) How NFT art sales work and why they’re revolutionary for the digital art world Understanding the difference between hot wallets and cold wallets Proof of work, proof of stake, and the environmental concerns around Web3 technology Regulations in the NFT space and why you need to know what you’re getting into as a buyer (If you’re thinking of clicking away from this episode because it’s not your speed, we’re going to urge you to explore that for a second!) Since it exists online, the creator economy is going to witness massive waves of change as the influence of Web3 grows. So, as a creator or online business owner, you’ll be impacted either way, so you might as well get a head start. So, pour yourself a cup of coffee, get your good stationery out, and get ready to take some serious notes as you tune into this episode! This Week’s Joy: Jenni has been loving spending her time growing microgreens with her family! It’s a super fun hobby, it’s extremely healthy, and it’s also a great way to cut down food costs because you literally get to eat what you sow. This Week’s Hustle: In her quest to learn more about the world of cryptocurrency, Sandy found the true-crime documentary Trust No One: The Hunt For The Crypto King. And in addition to being a very gripping story, it’s a great way to wrap your head around Web3 concepts and how they work.  RESOURCES:  OpenSea.io Ethereum Sofia Garcia Mybff.com  WTF is an NFT?!? Crypto For Beginners + BIG SURPRISE (Video) True Leaf Market Trust No One: The Hunt For the Crypto King

Today’s guest has one of the most interesting, thought-provoking, fascinating jobs we’ve ever heard of.  All our lives, we’ve thought of art and medicine as two completely different pillars – one encourages us to think subjectively while the other is more objective and rational.  But, artist-turned-medical educator Alexa Miller proved us so wrong.  And we’re glad she did! Most of us are in the business of movement. We help people figure out their bodies, improve their health, and even diagnose some basic physical conditions.  And for us to do our jobs in the most effective way possible, Alexa’s unique way of combining art with medicine and diagnosis is game-changing.  Alexa got started on this path over two decades ago, when she went to London to attend art school. She had always been passionate about understanding the human body and researching human resilience and her yearning to learn more about it led her to the Wellcome Trust, an incredible reserve of medical history and images in London.  As she was studying the images, she was struck by how the medical text directed people to look at patients.  As an artist, she was always encouraged to interpret, ponder upon her thoughts, and dissect the different emotions she felt about the works she created and studied.  On the other hand, the medical text encouraged her to make quick decisions. She wasn’t allowed to mull over, dissect, or think critically about what she was seeing.  The experience was so jarring, that it prompted her to consider something she’d never thought about before:  Is it possible to improve medical observation and diagnostic skills through art? And that question changed her life. It led her to work with some of the most reputed medical schools and museums in the country; teaching medical learners how to transcend some of the dehumanizing aspects of the hospital culture and use the tools of artists and great diagnosticians to observe, listen to, and co-create health with their patients.  In today’s episode, she’ll be sharing her knowledge so YOU can improve your own work with the human body through art.  Here’s what you can expect from this one: How Alexa’s own family history prompted her interest in the human body Why she teaches entire classes around the concept of uncertainty How she hopes to bring teamwork back into clinical practice The dire consequences if uncertainty is handled poorly How she helps physicians speak to their patients each other by getting them to rigorously analyze art Why it’s important for those who work with human bodies to stop, step back, and think about their diagnosis from different angles The implications of her teachings on public health And more! If you want to experience the human body from a refreshingly new perspective, this episode is for you.  Once you’re done listening, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us the most important thing you learned from today’s episode! RESOURCES The Wellcome Trust Power of Teamwork - Brian Goldman Section 4 This Week’s Joy: Alexa has been loving the process of building her garden, even getting 3,000 pounds of dirt delivered to her house for it! This Week’s Hustle: Jeni and Alexa met at a Section 4 class and both of them can’t recommend it enough! Section 4 is an online business school aiming to make top-tier business education accessible (and affordable!) to all. That means you feel like you’re sitting in a business class at Wharton with the best minds in the country. The only difference? It costs just $83 a month! This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

People pleasing can feel necessary sometimes.  Especially when you’re in the early stages of running a business.  But, when does the urge to please ALL your clients become destructive? It’s easy to keep your clients happy when you're starting out and your audience is small.  However, as your business grows, it gets trickier. No matter what you do, there are going to be clients who don’t agree with you. And sometimes, they won’t just be trolls on the internet.  They’ll be long-term, loyal, paying clients who decide to stop supporting you the minute you make a decision that doesn’t align with their beliefs. Take Peloton, for instance.  Just a few weeks ago, Peloton announced that they were increasing the prices of their monthly subscription plan by $5 for the first time in seven years.  Now to us as business owners, this decision made perfect sense.  Peloton is struggling to maintain the massive momentum they gained as the pandemic hit in 2020. And higher prices is the most logical way for them to combat their financial struggles.  Plus, the $5 increase also came with a host of brand new features like 500 new monthly classes, 45 new instructors, and 4 new in-built products, just to name a few. But long-time Peloton fans were NOT happy.  Reactions ranged from “I can’t believe we’re getting punished for buying the bike” to “your new sales strategy is just inconveniencing existing members”.  And suddenly, Peloton was being painted as some evil overlord looking to steal pennies off of their innocent clients.  And while the negative feedback you receive might not be at the same scale as Peloton, it’s important to think critically about client backlash.  How do you deal with long-term clients turning their back on you? How do you respond when constructive feedback crosses over to negativity? And why does this happen in the first place? Those are just some of of the questions we’re looking to answer in today’s episode. Here’s what you can expect from this one: How to deal with criticism when you’re used to staying in the edges The kind of feedback we’ve received in our own businesses Why female founders are always judged harshly for ‘daring’ to grow Our constant battle between leadership and humility Why opinions should be taken as neutral And more! If you’ve been losing sleep over those comments on your latest Instagram post, or want to know how to deal with criticism as it comes, this is the episode for you! Once you’re done listening, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and talk to us about a few comments that you’ve gotten from clients. How did you deal with them? RESOURCES Marvelous.bio Peloton’s Price Increase Post The Billion Dollar Loser - Reeves Wiedeman Copina Tea This Week’s Joy: We’re both fans of tea (with Jeni even buying, no lies, 12 whole pounds of it recently) and Copina’s collagen-boosted ones are a godsend for our hair, skin, and nails!  This Week’s Hustle: If you’ve been as fascinated by the insane rise and fall of WeWork’s Adam Neumann as we are, ‘The Billion Dollar Loser’ by Reeves Wiedeman is the perfect read to get all caught up. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Social media is an excellent (and inexpensive) way to connect with your audience online, share your expertise in your chosen niche, and get some valuable market research in while you’re at it. So, why are we so reluctant to go all in? Why do so many business owners have a knee-jerk negative reaction to social media, especially when they don’t mind spending time on it outside of work? The answer isn’t simple. Most of us struggle with a deep fear of rejection, judgment, and being dragged by trolls online.  And when we open up our business to them, we’re stepping away from the comfort of private accounts, hidden likes, and approved followers by allowing everyone to have a say on what we do.  As a result, we feel obligated to curate what we share on social media based on what they might like instead of being truthful to our own voices and experiences.  But here’s the thing: Your online presence isn’t meant to cater to everyone.  Instead, it needs to speak to who you are, what your business stands for, and who you serve. You can absolutely be successful by being your authentic self and creating what you want to see more of in the online space.  And if you prefer not using social media at all, you’re still very capable of growing exponentially through other channels! In this week’s episode, we’re dissecting the relationship business owners have with social media, how to overcome the mindset blocks that stop you from sharing what you want online, and how to make sure negativity doesn’t sabotage the work you’re meant to do! Here’s what you can expect from this one: Understanding why so many business owners despise social media The mindset work you need to do to build your relationship with social media Dealing with trolling and negativity as a consequence of being provocative online How to deal with the fear of rejection and judgment online Growing your business effectively without social media The importance of knowing your message and what you stand for as a business owner Our exciting new Visibility Week Challenge! If you struggle with putting yourself or your brand out there, this episode is perfect to help you gain some perspective on how you can grow your business online—with or without an Instagram account! RESOURCES Facebook Instagram Purple Cow by Seth Godin Visibility Week 2022 Line Goes Up This Week’s Joy: This week, we’ve been updating our Web3 knowledge with Line Goes Up, a 2 hours and 18 minutes long YouTube video that explains NFTs and crypto from a refreshingly new standpoint! This Week’s Hustle: If you’re ready to take charge of your visibility online, take your messaging to the next level, and boost your sales, our FREE 5-Day Visibility Week Challenge is just the thing you need! Sign up now to save your spot. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

There’s a thin line between ambition and crime. But, is that line the same for everyone? Case in point: men get to be ambitious, driven, even criminal in their pursuit of success and get praised for it. Movies and books that criticize them still have a hint of hero worship (Wolf of Wall Street, anyone?) But when women dare to do the same? They instantly become the villains of the story.  And when their ambition crosses over to criminal territory, the fall from grace is much harder.  In today’s episode, we discuss Elizabeth Holmes, Anna Sorokin, and The Bad Vegan, and break down how society views women who ‘flew too close to the sun’.  While we don’t have all of the answers just yet, we try to make sense of the double standards in entrepreneurship, the complex relationship we have with women who just want to be successful, and if this kind of public humiliation is the reason we don’t see more openly ambitious female entrepreneurs.  This isn’t a conversation that should be limited to just the two of us! Once you listen to the episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us what you think about women in business and why the world is obsessed with making spectacles of their downfalls! Here’s what else you can expect in the episode:  Why we’re especially invested in the Elizabeth Holmes’ case The difference between WeWork and Holmes The connection between success and needing to feel loved and understood The relationship between beauty and success Men’s reaction to Elizabeth Holmes (and what it tells us) And more! RESOURCES: The Dropout (Podcast that covers the Elizabeth Holmes case from A to Z) The Bad Vegan Inventing Anna “Anna Sorokin Talks About Making Art” Hey Marvelous This Week’s Joy: Our joy for you is simple – go watch Inventing Anna and The Bad Vegan on Netflix and listen to The Dropout! Not only are they entertaining and easy to binge, they also give us invaluable insights into the minds of these interesting women.  This Week’s Hustle: Our hustle this week is to be unapologetically ambitious and audacious. We need more women to act on their ambition than be too scared to take a step forward.  Oh, and read this New York Times article to get informed about Web3 and NFTs! This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Show of hands:  How many of you are afraid to start (or scale) your business because you’re afraid of going into debt? If you have your hand up, we get it.  After all, no one wants to put $5,000 on their credit cards to spend on bags, shoes, or clothing.  So, why would we take that risk for our business? In today’s And She Spoke episode, we want to break down why that train of thought is deeply flawed.  As women, we’ve let ourselves believe that we must be overly responsible with our money. We can only invest in something if we already have the cash in the bank to back it up. Otherwise, we’ll be seen as frivolous and financially irresponsible.  That fear has holds us back from investing in our futures, taking risks for our careers, and jumping into entrepreneurship headfirst.  And that’s just doing a disservice to our communities.  While not all of us have the financial security and privilege to take on debt, for those of us who can afford to take on debt, it can be a very effective way to jumpstart your business.  Here’s what else you can expect in the episode:  Our personal stories about the finances behind our first businesses The ‘Death Valley’ analogy and how to apply it to your business How debt can help you gain the resilience you need to be an entrepreneur The J Curve and why you should be studying it ASAP Why you need to surround yourself with people who believe in you And more! This episode is here to tell you that if you manage your finances well, debt doesn’t have to be a dirty word.  RESOURCES: Hey Marvelous Color Hunt Inner Circle  This Week’s Joy: Both of us have been obsessed with Inventing Anna (Jenny even stayed up all night to binge it). In fact, we have so many thoughts about it that we’re going to be recording a special episode dedicated to breaking it down! Stay tuned. This Week’s Hustle: Our hustle is the perfect example of how small changes can yield HUGE results.  Both of us took some time out of our day to change the colors on our Google Calendar events page to a palette that we love. We spend our lives on Google Calendar, so to have the screen open up to a beautiful color palette really makes a difference. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Running an online business can be draining.  Especially in a global pandemic.  If you spent most of last year glued to the screen, working 13 hours a day, and wading through digital noise, you aren’t the only one.  2020 and 2021 were not kind to entrepreneurs.  But with a new year comes a fresh perspective.  And one big trend that we stand behind for 2022 is digital minimalism. Digital minimalism means taking the time to look at how you’re running your business and think, “How can I best deliver to my clients/students?”  The “best” could look like rethinking your offers and seeing if they make sense in the context of your current clientele, clocking how much time you’re spending in front of a screen (and minimizing it), or simply ensuring that you’re making your processes cleaner, simpler, and more accessible for both you and your clients. As female creators, our instinct is to add as much value as we can, create more and put as much out to the world as possible.  But today, the narrative is different. Audiences now are all about quality over quantity.  And scaling back your digital elbow grease is one of the easiest ways to execute top-quality services daily! So, if you want to hear our in-depth takes on the trend (and how you can apply it to your own business), as well as our input on several huge 2022 business trends, this episode is for you! This is what we’re jumping into for this one: 4 Marvelous-approved trends that’ll make you rethink how you see your online business in 2022 The big content shift: working on creating better, not “more” What the online teaching model is evolving into  The wonders that effective advertising + your organic content strategy can create SLOs and how they can essentially save your ad cost The audio trend (and why it’s not going anywhere) Exploring the metaverse and Web 3.0  The great rise of the Female Creator Economy We’re looking at a big year for online businesses (especially the creator economy) and we can’t wait to learn more and explore as we go.  If you’re interested in shaking things up in your own workflows and trying something new and different this year, this is the perfect episode to get started! RESOURCES Hey Marvelous Kettl tea Stendig Calendar Animal Crossing This Week’s Joy: Jenni’s still enjoying her soothing matcha tea from a lovely Brooklyn-based brand called Kettl (all 4 pounds of it, believe it or not!) This Week’s Hustle: And Sandy’s current hustle is her beautiful, brand new Stendig Calendar by Massimo Villegni! She loves the classic monochromatic palette and how the dates always keep her on track.  This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

It’s been a hot minute, hasn’t it? We know we’ve been gone for a while. But, it’s for a good reason! Last August, Jeni realized that she was burnt out.  And by burnt out, we don’t mean slightly warm — we mean full-on, Sahara Desert- level fried.  Her basement office was suffocating, she was working 18 hours a day, and to top it all off, had COVID for months.  So, she decided she needed a change. Change which came in the form of a 25ft Airstream that allowed her to travel the length and breadth of the United States.  And that’s exactly what she did.  But, bouncing from one cellphone tower to another just didn’t guarantee good wifi, making it impossible to film weekly podcast episodes.  So, while our break might’ve been forced, we’re glad we took it. Not only did Jeni get to live out a dream she’s had for years, we also got the chance to take a step back and take life at a slower pace.  In this comeback episode, we’re sitting down for a little coffee-break chat and talking about all the exciting things we’ve been up to.  More importantly, we break down burnout, the side-effects of sprinting 24/7 and how you can cope with it (you don’t have to travel across the country in a van, promise) so you come back even stronger. On that note, we hope you’re prepared for everything we have in store for And She Spoke! This break has given us some incredible ideas that we’re dying to implement.  Now that we’re back and better than ever, keep an eye out for everything that’s coming your way.  This is what we’re jumping into for this one: Why Jeni has had a tough time recording the last few And She Spoke episodes How business owners can set boundaries  The things Sandy and Jeni did to get over their burnout Why your business should help you build your life instead of becoming your life Our plans for 2022 And more! RESOURCES Marvelous Rode Wireless Mic This Week’s Joy: Jeni’s joy is an exciting one - swimming with barracudas. She’s loved sharks for as long as she could remember, so this was a dream come true! This Week’s Hustle: Our hustle comes from Sandy who cannot recommend The Rode Wireless Mic enough. It’s the only one on the market that actually works! This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

If you’ve been following us for a while, you probably know that we’re obsessed with the concept of being a business nomad.  What’s not to love about getting to travel the world while still running your business?  And before Jeni took the plunge and invested in her own Airstream, she had a few entrepreneurs she would follow for travel inspo - people who were living the #campingcarlife and working while going on new adventures every day.  One such entrepreneur was Rebecca Tracey.  The founder of The Uncaged Life, Rebecca works with coaches and solopreneurs in the baby stages of their business to help them get clear on their brand messaging, create packages that sell, and attract lifetime clients.  Though she’s been in the business for a long time (in fact, 2021 is her 10th anniversary!), her model has had to go through some huge changes recently.  Before 2021, over 50% of Rebecca’s total revenue came from two live launches a year, which ran for weeks at a time. Once they wrapped up, she would take a step back and use the downtime to travel and unwind.  While this might seem like a stressful model for some, Rebecca loved it. She loved the adrenaline-pumping excitement of a live launch, and loved the free time she got afterwards.  However, due to several big life changes that happened to her this year (including moving from Toronto to Squamish, BC), Rebecca decided that her live-launch model didn’t make sense for her moving forward. So, she decided to focus on her evergreen programs and offering her clients year-round support.  Switching to such a drastically different model nearly 10 years into your business isn’t easy. And Rebecca never makes it sound like it is.  In this episode, she candidly talks about WHY she switched models in the first place, how she doesn’t have everything figured out just yet, and why feeling scared in your business is 100% okay.  Here’s what else you can expect in the episode: Why Rebecca is retiring from her nomad lifeHow she’s updating her programs for her new modelHer organic marketing tips that ANY business owner can implement Her experiments with Facebook AdsWhat Rebecca’s 2022 is going to look like If you’ve had to change your business model in the pandemic and feel like you’re not quite sure where the future will take you, this episode might help quell some of those fears! RESOURCES: The Uncaged Life  The Uncaged Life - Instagram Rebecca’s Instagram The Chill and Prosper Podcast - Denise Duffield Thomas This Week’s Joy:In memory of her late cattle dog Rhubarb, Rebecca has been obsessed with the Cattle Dog hashtag on Instagram! This Week’s Hustle:Rebecca’s hustle is someone you might remember from And She Spoke - Denise Duffield Thomas! Denise is the epitome of a ‘chill-preneur’ and Rebecca listens to her podcast when her business gets complicated. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Society is quick to call a high-achieving woman “superwoman”. With that one word, the world defines your worth by your ability to take care of others. And because we’ve been socialized to measure our own value according to these metrics, we forget that the superhero cape around our necks suffocates us. Roxanne Francis, psychotherapist and co-owner of Francis Psychotherapy and Consulting Services, not only dealt with this, but made active steps to transform the narrative around her self worth. She took herself on a transformative journey of recognizing her needs, choosing self-preservation, and battling burnout. And while it was difficult and guilt-inducing to leave her job in public service, choosing to take care of her own needs was the best decision she could’ve made for herself. On this week’s episode, she’s chatting about the symptoms of burnout, the narrative around women and perfectionism, and how we need to change the narrative for the next generation of women after us. This is what we’re jumping into for this one:What it really means to feel burnt outRoxanne’s transition from public service to running her own psychotherapy businessHer personal journey with burnout and stressThe symptoms of burnout and the questions you should be asking yourself when you feel it comingChoosing self-preservation over conditioned altruismThe need for perfection, and the ability to care as metric of worth for womenMaintaining mental health around social media, and the effects of the metaverseThe right to disconnect discourse If you’re looking for some inspiration, perspective, or just a quick moment to let yourself breathe a little easy, this is the episode for you! RESOURCESRoxanne’s Website Roxanne’s InstagramVoxer This Week’s Joy: Roxanne has been enjoying her share of rest and well-deserved QT with her family- whether that’s snuggling on the couch with her children or treating herself to a glass of wine in the evenings. This Week’s Hustle:Roxanne, like many of us, is a Voxer fan. Voxer is a walkie-talkie app that allows you to share your thoughts audibly or through text without a phone number, and keeps the continuity (and productivity) train running smoothly! This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

Sometimes, you hear a calling you just can’t ignore.  And while it’s daunting to leave behind your life as you know it to follow your instincts, there’s also nothing quite as rewarding. No one knows that better than this week’s guest Gloria Chou. Gloria is a US diplomat-turned Public Relations expert whose mission is to help business owners take charge of their own PR, gain traction, and build brand credibility without the friction from go-between agencies.  Over the years, Gloria has helped thousands of businesses carve a space for themselves in premium outlets and publications.   But it wasn’t what she’d set out to do at the start of her career. And when she made the switch to PR , she had to leave a lot behind— her job in bureaucracy, her pension, and her security—just to start over in a completely different industry at the bottom rung of the ladder.  But Gloria believed in her zone of genius. So, she gave it her all. And in this episode, she’s telling us the fascinating story of how it all worked out! Here’s what we’ve got in store for this one: Gloria’s drastic transition from diplomat to PR expert A glimpse at her three-step CPR pitching method and how it came to be Changing your career and navigating a 0-experience zone How rejection can quite literally make your career The discrepancies in PR and cold-calling between men and women How taking charge of your own PR gets the job done while minimizing friction Gloria’s thoughts on content creation with relation to PR Tips from an expert on following up pitches, reaching out to publications, and more! Gloria’s drive, honesty, and tooth-and-nail attitude is what makes this episode so refreshing.  And if you’re looking to make a switch and follow your heart to do the thing that’s calling you, definitely tune in! This episode might just be the sign you need.  RESOURCES: Gloria’s Website Gloria’s Podcast Gloria’s PR Secrets Masterclass Gloria’s Instagram This Week’s Joy:Gloria is extremely delighted about launching and hosting her very own Small Business PR Podcast! She’s having a wonderful time talking to new guests, and learning how to turn the podcast gears as she goes along! This Week’s Hustle:Gloria’s very own PR Secrets Masterclass will up your business’ PR game in under an hour! This is a free 30-minute step-by-step class where she deconstructs a PR outreach email pitch right from the subject line! This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

In all our years of working with small business owners, we’ve been asked one question over and over again:  How do I get my trademarks in order? And we 100% understand! Trademarking your intellectual property is important, especially if you want to avoid legal battles and intellectual theft.  Since this is such an important topic, we want to make sure we give you the most accurate and legally sound advice possible.  So, we’re enlisting the help of an expert! Meet Michelle Murphy, the co-founder of Wilson Murphy Law and The CEO Legal Loft.  Michelle is a small business attorney with a specialization in trademarks. Since opening her own practice in 2019, she’s worked with hundreds of female entrepreneurs to help them file and manage their trademarks and protect themselves legally.  This episode is short, sweet, and chock full of useful information for any new entrepreneur. Michelle breaks down the legal nitty-gritties of running a business in easy-to-understand tid-bits so you can walk away with important knowledge on how to protect yourself for a rainy day! Here’s what you can expect from this week’s episode: The crazy story of how Michelle became a small business attorney What every new business owner needs to do to cover their “legal backside” Michelle’s advice on forming a legal entity before filing for a trademark Why more and more businesses are filing for trademarks before they launch The average investment you’d need to make to file a trademark The difference between copyrights and trademarks How to navigate the world of international trademarks What she looks for when she performs legal audits  How TikTok has helped her business And more! Once you’re done with the episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us the steps you took to file for your own trademark. Who knows, it might just help a new business owner who’s looking to enter the world for the first time! RESOURCES Michelle’s Website  The Ceo Legal Loft Michelle’s Instagram Michelle’s LinkedIn Michelle’s TikTok SKIMS Sling TV Dubsado

Unruly (adjective): Disorderly and disruptive and not amenable to discipline or control. The official dictionary definition of ‘unruly’ isn’t something women usually aspire to be.  All our lives, we’ve been conditioned to believe that being unruly was social suicide - the opposite of how we needed to act if we wanted to be loved by our peers, respected by our colleagues, and cared for by our partners.  But, what if we told you that the world needs unruly women now more than ever? What if we told you that its balance depended on it? If you’re confused, you won’t be after you listen to today’s guest, Emilia Van Hauen! This is Emilia’s second visit to And She Spoke and the last time we chatted, she left us with a quote that we knew had to be explored further:  “I have something to say about unruly women…” How could we not have her back after that? According to Emilia, for society to find equilibrium, women need to stop suppressing themselves and start embracing their ‘unruly’ sides.  Now, her definition of unruliness isn’t what you’ll find in a dictionary. To her, being unruly means not being constrained by the societal norms that dictate what an ‘ideal woman’ should be like.  And by refusing to constrain your creativity, lust, and physical/emotional strength, you can help the world find the balance that it so desperately needs.  After all, the only way we can grow newer, better, more inclusive communities is if we destroy the systems that aren’t working and lean into what makes each one of us unique.  And the best way to do that is to start with yourself.  If you feel like you’re done being told to stand in a corner, let this episode be your motivation to break the glass ceiling, believe in your creativity, and create a new world with your unruliness.  Here’s what you can expect from this week’s episode: Why unruliness is the only cure to the “wicked” world we find ourselves in How Emilia came to realize that being unruly was her creative calling The three things women are actively judged on and how to break out of the cycle How women can move past their fear of judgement and criticism The importance of building a community of individuals who truly support your work How unruliness is important if you want to make money in your business Why you should stop looking for permission to feel what you want to feel And more! Once you’re done with the episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and tell us how you’re living an unruly life! RESOURCES Emilia Van Hauen - Website (English Version) Emilia Van Hauen TED Talk - Unruly Women Have More Fun Where We Should Begin - Esther Perel Brené Brown This Week’s Joy:  Emilia’s biggest joy right now is her puppy Tintin! She’s so happy that she thinks everyone deserves a little furball in their lives, and we couldn’t agree more.  This Week’s Hustle:  Currently Emilia has been loving everything Brené Brown and regularly listens to Esther Perel’s ‘Where We Should Begin’ podcast to help her take her business (and unruliness!) to the next level.  This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

We often define our limits by what we think we’re capable of.  And for many women in business, structural barriers—both internal and external—play a big role in how we create these fences for ourselves. For centuries, we’ve been taught that we need to rely on other members of society to make financial decisions for us, and that our value comes from our bodies rather than our minds. This reflects in how much money we think we deserve in exchange for our services.  But, that’s where the beauty of owning our own businesses lies.  Why?  Because we’re the ones in charge. We’re the ones making the calls, setting our prices, and running the show.  In this week’s episode, we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of how the prevailing system dictates our money-mindsets as women, why the culture of undercharging is detrimental to the entrepreneurial landscape, and why we should rethink our capabilities with reference to money. Here’s what you can expect from this episode: The difference between your worth and the worth of your programs and offerings 4 subconscious patriarchal beliefs that affect the way we price things How being a business owner helps you minimize the structural financial barriers  The undercharging-culture, and why it needs to change Why many women don't even trust themselves with money The need to understand what your service is worth What happens when you quit playing the people-pleasing game Why it’s important to charge honest rates even if you don’t “need” the money We’ve got some real-talk and super staggering statistics in store for you with this one. And we’re also extremely excited to be unveiling our new project, 8333! If you’re as interested in seeing a shift in the culture of pricing as we are, you’re going to love this talk. So get comfy, and tune in! RESOURCES Theposterclub.com Seth Godin’s Blog Post “Superfamous” This Week’s Joy: Sandy’s current joy is theposterclub.com! It’s a website that features beautiful, eclectic art pieces from artists in Denmark who take inspiration from Scandinavian and minimalist concepts. This Week’s Hustle:  What’s fueling Jenni’s hustle these days is Seth Godin’s latest blog post,“Superfamous”. It dives into the true purpose of transformative work, and how it’s slowly being marred by the creator’s desire to achieve fame. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

As women and business owners, our relationship with money is complex. We’re constantly challenged by our internalized scarcity mindset, the wage gap, and financial barriers in a system that wasn’t designed to benefit us. But money, at the end of the day, is a resource at your disposal4. And if you choose to channel it as an agent of power, freedom, and equity, that’s exactly what it’ll bring you! That’s just one of the exciting concepts we’re discussing in this week’s episode! In September, a panel of five female founders got together for our annual Thrive Online fireside chat, Women, Money, and Power. We spoke candidly about the power of money and influence, feminist businesses, and finance. And this week’s episode is the complete and unadulterated discussion from that very panel! We’re extremely proud to present Kelly Diels (Feminist marketing teacher), Emily Howe (Founder of The American Association of Corporate Gender Strategists, Claire Wasserman (Founder of Ladies Get Paid), Naomi Scott Clark (Feminist marketing coach), and Amina AlTai (Leadership and mindfulness coach) as our guests for this episode! Here’s what you can expect from this one: Money as an agent of freedom and power  Building an empire versus building power (and sharing it!) What a “feminist business” really means Why pushing past our internalized income ceilings is activism Scarcity and abundance as gendered teachings Origin stories of some of today’s most influential female-owned movement-building businesses  Defining “influence” and claiming it’s power Acknowledging your inner power, cultivating a practice of self-trust, and knowing what you’re worth What makes this episode so special is the honesty with which every panelist brings her own financial experiences to the table. No matter where you are in your own financial journey, you’ll find yourself feeling a little more motivated and well-informed once the headphones come off.  So cozy up, and tune in—this is the only girl-talk you need this week! RESOURCES Kelly Diels’ Website Instagram Emily Howe Website Instagram American Association of Corporate Gender Strategists Claire Wasserman Ladies Get Paid Instagram Naomi Clark Website Instagram Amina AlTai Website Instagram

Online business is a blessing. It’s not like we didn’t already know that (we’ve been in the industry for over a decade after all), but we’ve gained a newfound appreciation for it this past year. Not only did we have the freedom to take vacations, but we were also able to leverage our online business to grow, earn consistent revenue, and help other incredible entrepreneurs do the same thing. But on a more personal level, it’s allowed us to make some major purchases that have either brought us joy, made our lives easier, or both, which is exactly what we’ll be discussing in today’s episode (spoiler alert: get ready for conversations about a “work condo” and an airstream) So, join us as we talk about how online business has helped us fulfill our money-based goals, how spending the big bucks in your personal life can be a fantastic side-hustle opportunity, and how you can reform your mindset around big purchases. Here’s what you can expect from this week’s episode: How a little money can solve a lot of problems Why we’re super aware of what are brains are thinking and doing now as opposed to years ago How online business has enabled us to do so much even in times of chaos Why our purchases are solid, long-term investments too Our contrasting money behaviors and why we’re starting to adopt the motto ‘just throw a little money at it!’ So, if you’re on the fence about getting into online business OR about that next big investment, this episode may just be what you need! Resources:Hey MarvelousHey Marvelous - InstagramHey Marvelous - Inner Circle This Week’s Joys: Since we’ve just been back from holiday, we thought it would only be fitting to have two joys this week! Jeni’s joy is, of course, her Airstream. Not only does she love it, but she also loves the subculture around it, with its rallies, clubs, and secret messages.  Sandy’ joy is finally having a reason to purchase her favorite Hilma af Klint paintings! Klint was one of the first artists to do abstract work in the Western world and Sandy has wanted a space that she could furnish with her paintings for a long time.  This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

As female entrepreneurs, we know the challenges that come with a weak money mindset. It takes a lot of trial and error before we can trust ourselves when it comes to our own wealth. And this week’s guest used to feel no different. But, she managed to stand up, do the deep work and change her relationship with money.  And now, she’s committed to helping women make the same shifts that she did! Bonnie Koo is a dermatologist-turned-fulltime wealth coach, the founder of Wealthy Mom MD, and author of her upcoming book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash. Her mission is to help female physicians grow and manage their money in a well-informed and confident way.  In this week’s episode, Bonnie gives us a candid take on what she has learned through her role as a wealth coach.  She breaks down why women don’t always have their own back while handling money, the social expectations surrounding wealth for practitioner-based careers, and the fear of judgement that bars many women from celebrating their successes with money.  Here’s what you can expect from this week’s fascinating episode: Bonnie’s journey from medicine to full-time wealth coaching A candid discussion on money in the practitioner’s sphere The “arrival fallacy” concept What happens when you bring a broke mindset to the table The motivational triad (and how it applies to making money) An honest conversation about the state of medical practitioners post-COVID Women and the current internal narrative around handling wealth A glimpse at what Bonnie’s book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash is all about! The entrepreneur VS. practitioner money debate Bonnie also touches upon her relationship with failure as someone with a Type A personality, discusses her attitude towards money growing up, and breaks down why having a high income doesn’t necessarily mean you have it all figured out. We enjoyed recording this episode because of how transparent, uninhibited, and realistic Bonnie’s take on things is. She’s not afraid to drop numbers or give you the real picture, which is super refreshing when we’re talking about the $$$. Tune in with a cup of tea and get ready to take charge of your money mindset! Resources: Bonnie’s Instagram Bonnie’s Website Bonnie’s TOMO Rose Gold Water Bottle This week’s Joy:  Bonnie’s current joy makes sure she’s feeling healthy, hydrated, and glamorous at all times - it’s her special TOMO rose gold water bottle! (Those crystals would brighten up anyone’s day!) This week’s Hustle:  Bonnie believes her book Defining Wealth For Women: (n.) Peace, Purpose, and Plenty of Cash (coming out October 2021!) is extremely helpful for any woman. It’s a fascinating look at the socialization of money, the psychology of women surrounding wealth, and some serious brain-rewiring that we all need today to change the financial narrative. This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform. Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses memberships and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. Unlike other startups, Marvelous was created by women for women. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.