36 minutes | Jul 26, 2021

S2E9. From Transferring Knowledge to Transforming Students, with Andrew Barry, Founder of Curious Lion

Our guest today is Andrew Barry. Andrew started off at KPMG where he built out their training, then he created Curious Lion where he and his team help the likes of Pinterest and many other companies to create corporate training programs. I first met Andrew when we were both taking an online writing course called Write of Passage, and I have been eager to talk about learning online ever since. In this episode, we learn how everyone can design online learning experiences to repeatably effect transformations in their students' lives. Then we try to sketch out a future of what happens when more and more teachers can generate these transformations, what a world that will be!I love Andrew's strong conviction that everyone has a course in them. It's not just an optimistic "You can also do this" type of message. He recognises that on the one hand, the online learning techniques he describes so clearly can effect student transformations in a repeatable and predictable way. But also, on the other hand, his new concept of teacher identity means that we'll all want to learn from different teachers not because the content is better but because we resonate more with one or the other. Learning is hard and very emotional.It feels like Andrew is working on a mathematical formula for course creation, something like: Student-centered content + Beginner's mind + Deliberate Practice + Accountability + Reflection = Student TransformationThere's a craze around cohort-based courses and probably for good reason. Andrew neatly explains the "beauty of the cohort" in the safe environments they create.Here are some resources mentioned in our discussion: K. Anders Ericsson, Deliberate Practice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Anders_EricssonWhy You Need Two Kinds of Groups to Power Group Learning, Andrew Barry - https://curiouslionlearning.com/why-group-learning/David Perell - Write of Passage - https://perell.com/write-of-passage/Global Teacher Prize - https://www.globalteacherprize.orgRanjitsinh Disale 2020 - https://www.globalteacherprize.org/winners/ranjitsinh-disale-2020/Peter Tabichi 2019 - https://www.globalteacherprize.org/winners/peter-tabichi-2019/The Economics of Superstars, Sherwin Rosen - https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469Where to learn more about Andrew:Twitter - https://twitter.com/BazzarutoLuma - https://lu.ma/bazzarutoCurious Lion - https://curiouslionlearning.comCourse Creators Collective - https://www.coursecreatorscollective.comWhere to learn more about Enrollhand: Website - www.enrollhand.comWebinar - https://webinar-replay.enrollhand.comOur free Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/schoolgrowth/
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