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Rod Brunson is the Thomas P. O’Neill Professor of Public Life at Northeastern University. We discuss his op-ed in the Washington Post that, at the height of the protests around the killing of George Floyd and calls to defund policing, pointing out that under-policing could be just as deadly for high crime neighborhoods as over-policing.

Bill Walsh is a lieutenant with the Voorhees police department in New Jersey. We chat about his work as their Health and Wellness Coordinator integrating a board-certified policy psychologist and police families into a comprehensive program geared towards officer wellness and resiliency.

Debra Piehl has been an innovator and leader in the development of crime analysis for over 20 years. We chat about the value of crime analysis to police leaders, the importance of data quality, crime analysis in Compstat and DDACTS, and the emerging role of analysts in evidence-based policing.

Rachel Tuffin in the Director of Knowledge and Innovation at the College of Policing for England and Wales. We discuss the unique national role that the college has across law enforcement policy and training.

Hans Menos leads Philadelphia's Police Advisory Commission, the civilian oversight agency for the Philadelphia Police Department. They provide recommendations on how to improve policing in the city, by analyzing the policies, practices, and customs of the Philadelphia Police Department. In a wide-ranging discussion, we talk about the challenges of police oversight, black lives matter, use of force, and different ways to move police accountability forward. Note that since this episode was recorded, the Philadelphia Police Department’s use of force policy has been amended and now includes documenting the unholstering or pointing of a service weapon.

Danny Murphy is the Deputy Commissioner over the Compliance Bureau at the Baltimore Police Department in Maryland, where he leads the implementation of Baltimore’s extensive consent decree which mandates comprehensive reforms to improve operations and build public trust in the wake of civic unrest and fractured police-community relations. We talk about what consent decrees are, how police departments get into them, get out of them, and the pros and cons of being in a consent decree.

Kevin Bethel is a retired Philadelphia Deputy Police Commissioner and now Chief of School Safety for the Philadelphia School District. We chat about the school-to-prison pipeline and his work rethinking the role of police in schools. His diversion program has reduced school arrests by 71 percent.

Mo McGough is chief of staff for the policing project at NYU Law. We chat about the role, representation and experiences of women in policing.

Robert Schug is a neurocriminologist, clinical psychologist, and professor at California State University Long Beach. We talk about mind hunters, the media, and the real science behind serial killer research.

Phillip Atiba Goff is the inaugural Franklin A. Thomas Professor in Policing Equity at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. He talks about moving away from a reflexive arrest approach to all policing problems, the challenges of dealing with service providers in non-crime areas, and working with city politics.

Chris Magnus is the police chief for Tucson, Arizona. He talks about moving away from a reflexive arrest approach to all policing problems, the challenges of dealing with service providers in non-crime areas, and working with city politics.

Lorraine Mazerolle is a Professor of Criminology in the School of Social Science at Australia's University of Queensland and one of the world's leading experimental criminologists. We discuss her career in criminology, police and crime prevention partnerships, and her current RCT working with police and schools.

Thomas Abt is a Senior Research Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. We chat about his background in state and federal criminal justice policy-making, and the motivation and aims behind his recent book "Bleeding Out -The Devastating Consequences of Urban Violence and a Bold New Plan for Peace in the Streets".

Professor Lawrence Sherman is Director of the Cambridge Centre for Evidence-Based Policing at the University of Cambridge and Director of the Jerry Lee Centre of Experimental Criminology. We discuss the police constable apprentice program, the role of socializing in the pub as an executive learning tool, the crime harm index and victimization, and the role of algorithms in improving the criminal justice system.

Professor Marcus Felson (Texas State University San Marcos) explains why the correct terminology is important in regard to routine activities theory, has some choice words for social disorganization and collective efficacy, explains the origins of the routine activities approach.

Dr Ella Cockbain (University College London) and I talked over a nice cuppa at the Jill Dando Institute for Crime Science in London. She tells me about trafficking, exploitative business policies, legislation that makes things worse not better, and laundry detergent bubbles. In return, I learn how to use the right language around this area, question Norwegian sexual prowess, and upset Liam Neeson.

Sir Denis O'Connor has been in British policing for over 50 years and a leader for nearly two decades. Across a variety of roles, he has been at the center of a number of significant high-profile reviews. We discuss police careerists, the growth of oversight regimes, and the need for a plan to win. There's also some reflection on the former prevalence of violence at weddings in the east end of London.

Dr. Renee Mitchell is a sergeant in the Sacramento police department, California, and a co-founder and current president of the American Society of Evidence-Based Policing. In a wide-ranging chat, we explore the myriad ways research can help 21st century policing. We also cover her Sacramento Hot Spots Experiment, how policing research is like following the white rabbit from Alice in Wonderland, Critical Incident Stress Debriefing and its lack of evidence base, "Make it stop" policing, and the lack of science around police-involved shootings.

Dr. Ian Hesketh was a British police officer for 30 years and is now the Wellbeing Lead at the UK's College of Policing and the key leadership figure for the National Police Wellbeing Service. We talk about officer wellness and resiliency in the face of mounting challenges.

Rob Briner is Professor of Organizational Psychology in the School of Business and Management at Queen Mary University of London. He tells me about the vital role of accountability in pushing evidence-based practice, the appeal of apparent simplicity and good intentions that can trap people in harmful responses, the three words managers can't seem to say, and the idea of watchful waiting.