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Podcast Advertising Playbook

114 Episodes

43 minutes | Mar 15, 2023
A Guide To Pixel Tracking
“The great thing about Pixel Solutions, to your point, is that you’re not asking the client to complete an extra step, to remember a URL, or to remember a promo code. You’re allowing them just to access the website however is easiest for them, and then we can tie that to the actual show that drove them there.”  If you’ve spent any amount of time in the podcasting industry, you’ve heard about pixel tracking. But what does that mean? What are pixels?  That’s exactly what Caleb Mansfield explains on today’s episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook. Caleb is the Director of Partner Success at Artsai, and today, he’s our pixel-tracking expert.  If you’ve ever asked yourself…  What are pixels?  What is pixel tracking?  How is this different from attribution tracking?  What role do cookies play in pixel tracking? How do I place a pixel?  Then you’re in the right place!  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
40 minutes | Mar 8, 2023
Do You Have Too Many Podcast Ads? w/ Gabriel Soto
“Yes, there’s a warning that podcast listeners want to get away from ads, and they’re starting to recognize ads on podcasts… [but] people still trust podcast advertisements more than they do radio or TV ads.”  Podcast ads are special because the listeners trust to host like they trust their best friend. But is it possible to have too much of a good thing?  That’s exactly what Gabriel Soto, Director of Research at Edison Research, aims to answer on today’s episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook.  In this episode, Heather and Gabriel discuss:  How to decode your podcast data.  The importance of listener surveys.  Specific questions to ask in your next survey.  Listener ad fatigue.  Podcasts & accessibility  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
20 minutes | Mar 1, 2023
The Podcast Industry Is Changing
“We cannot continue to sign contracts that say the ad is going to live in the episode forever.  That’s right. You heard it - forever.” Today, Heather Osgood is back with a solo episode to discuss the changes she’s been seeing in the podcast industry.  This includes: Faked in ads and why we need to start calling them what they are.  Ways to make dynamically inserted ads more successful.  Why we should move towards a pure CPM pricing model.  The podcast industry is changing… are you able to keep up?  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
37 minutes | Feb 22, 2023
Approach Your Next Campaign w/ Confidence ft. Brittany Bernado
“The other thing is, if you’re utilizing host read ads and the host is game, please let them do their thing. The host knows how to speak to their audience, and they know what resonates.” We are so excited to introduce our new Senior Director of Revenue and Sales Strategy, Brittany Bernado! Brittany joined the True Native Media team a few months ago, and she’s ready to share her wealth of knowledge with us here at The Podcast Advertising Playbook.  Brittany and Heather discuss: A successful three-prong strategy for advertising  Why advertisers need to let the host do their thing Podcast ads should be made for podcasts specifically  Don’t be too specific with your audience targeting - many audiences listen to many different podcasts  Things that made an ad effective  Current challenges the industry is facing ______________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
26 minutes | Feb 15, 2023
Your 2023 Podfest Recap w/ Nick Gryniewicz
“The thing that I heard [at Podfest] that was kind of interesting was a speaker that used the phrase, ‘‘spend time with your audience.’  Podcasting can be this kind of one-way street where you’re talking at the audience, and in many ways, the audience kind of talks back to you, but you don’t necessarily respond… If you invest your time in them, other people will see that, and you’ll build more of a community there.”  Our very own VP, Nick Gryniewicz, is back again with Heather Osgood on today’s episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook. Nick just recently attended Podfest 2023, and he’s excited to share everything he learned with our listeners.  Heather and Nick discuss: The two paths to audience growth: promo swaps & advertising.   The importance of spending time with your audience.  How integrated campaigns are the newest craze for advertisers.  Tips for understanding who your audience is.  How ChatGPT can help the podcast industry.  Upcoming in-person podcast events.  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
48 minutes | Feb 8, 2023
Constructing a Good Ad w/ Lindsay Graham
“No one is really special… You have the same problems as everyone else, and if you can connect with some sort of empathy to the problem that’s being solved by this [product], I think you will find an audience in the sponsorship.”  We’ve all heard a podcast host start an ad read by saying, “I SWEAR I’d never promote a product I didn’t love and use every day.”  As consumers, this transparency is part of the reason we love podcasts, but is the host being too selective? Could they ethically promote a product they don’t use but think could be beneficial to their audience?  That’s just one of the questions Heather Osgood and her guest, Lindsay Graham, Airship CEO, tackle on the newest episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook.  Heather and Lindsay also discuss: Host read ads vs. producer read ads. A guide to constructing a good ad.  How advertisers can set their hosts up for success.  What makes up a bad ad.  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
45 minutes | Jan 25, 2023
Do Podcasts Have a Privacy Issue? w/ Jordan Bentley
We’ve all heard the horror stories of smart homes listening to your conversations when they shouldn’t be or mentioning you need a product and immediately getting a targeted ad for it. As our society gets more reliant on technology, privacy is a hot topic. Which begs the question, is there a privacy issue in podcasting?  Audiohook founder Jordan Bentley joins Heather Osgood on the newest episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook. Tune in now to find out if Heather and Jordan have concerns about privacy in the podcasting industry. In addition to privacy, they discuss: Why you need to be specific when talking about programmatic ads.  DSPs (Demand Side Platforms) & audio. How to handle frequency capping when your hosting provider doesn’t have that capability.  How probabilistic targeting works & how it preserves privacy.  “Again, audio is different, and it takes some time and effort to do it right.”  ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
47 minutes | Jan 18, 2023
Podcasts Can’t Survive Without Diversity w/ Tangia Al-awaji Estrada
“When we don’t have that level of diversity in our industry, it doesn’t bode well because you’re very quickly going to be irrelevant. As those younger people and those new minds come into things, if it doesn’t engage them, they just won’t deal with it.  There won’t be like some kind of fight by the next generation to save podcasting. They just won’t engage with it.” Tangia Al-awaji Estrada is the co-founder of BIPOC Podcast Creators, and today she sat down with Heather Osgood to talk about diversity and podcasting.  (BIPOC = Black, Indigenous, and People of Color) Heather and Tangia talk about:  What is BIPOC Podcast Creators? The current demographics of podcast creators. Gen Z & their demand for diversity and inclusion.  Discoverability issues for minority podcasters.   Gen Z is entering adulthood, and they value diversity. If you’re not willing to adapt, your show might be left behind.  ________________________________________ To learn more about BIPOC Podcast Creators, visit their website: https://www.bipocpodcastcreators.com/ Connect with Tangia Al-awaji Estrada: hi@bipocpodcastcreators.com https://www.instagram.com/tangiarenee/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tangiarenee/ ________________________________________ More of a visual person? Watch this episode on YouTube.  Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
34 minutes | Jan 11, 2023
An Audio Revolution w/ Jay Green
“One of the things that you and I had been talking about is this idea of creating a successful relationship from beginning to end… We want the content creator to be rewarded. We want the ad seller to be rewarded, and we want the advertiser to be rewarded. It has to be a win across the board.” In today’s episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook, Heather is joined by Jay Green. Jay is the SVP, Podcast Strategy & Operations at Cadence13 and has great experience in the advertising space. Heather and Jay discuss: -   What to look out for when tracking your ad campaign.   -   Audio vs. video, do you need both? -   The difference between host-read ads and announcer-read ads. -   How to successfully test your advertising campaign. -   The role of programmatic ads. -   2023 Predictions Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social media Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
35 minutes | Dec 21, 2022
A True Native Media Deep Dive w/ Nick Gryniewicz
“So, the way that I always love to think about it is for the independent podcaster, True Native Media really acts as a pseudo sales arm.” In over 100 episodes of The Podcast Advertising Playbook, Heather Osgood hasn’t spent a lot of time talking about what we do at True Native Media - but that’s about to change. Heather is joined by our brand new Vice President, Nick Gryniewicz, to tell you everything you need to know about how True Native Media can take your podcast from a hobby to a full-time job.  In this episode, you’ll learn: What True Native Media does for podcasters + advertisers.  The importance of making connections between shows and advertisers.  What goes into a successful advertising campaign?  How the economy is impacting the podcast industry.  What’s next for True Native Media? & exactly why your company should work with us at True Native Media.  This is the perfect episode to round out 2022 and not an episode you’ll want to miss!   Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
43 minutes | Dec 7, 2022
The World of Programmatic Ads w/ Rockie Thomas
“I have to remind people… Let’s just say audio or digital. Audio, in general - it’s a perishable media.”  Once the opportunity to monetize on audio is gone, it’s GONE.  That can sound pretty scary if you’re new to podcast advertising, but the CRO of SoundStack, Rockie Thomas, believes programmatic ads can capitalize on optimization in real time. In our newest episode of The Podcast Advertising Playbook, Heather Osgood and Rockie Thomas discuss:  Programmatic ads & the different ways to work with them The power of personal endorsements  Dynamically inserting ads vs. embedding ads Certain safeguards you’ll find with programmatic ads  Ad choices Rockie advises against Ways to educate people in the podcasting space If you’re looking for a place to start with programmatic ads, you’ve found it.     Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
41 minutes | Nov 23, 2022
You Can’t Have Back-to-Back Ads w/ Thomas Mancusi
“I’m a sales guy, but if I could sell things and see it affect someone else’s livelihood and go from, you know, doing what was a hobby to doing what they love is part of the love that I have for [the podcasting] space.” If you’ve made it to this episode, you must love the podcasting space as much as we do. And one of the reasons we love it so much is because everyone is so willing to help everyone else.  Which is exactly what Thomas Mancusi, CRO at AudioBoom, did on today’s episode with True Native Media founder Heather Osgood. In today’s episode, Heather and Thomas discuss: -   “Faked-in” Ads -   Sonic Identifiers -   What happens when you have too many ads in one episode -   Predictions for the industry  This isn’t an episode you’ll want to miss!   Ready to learn more? Check out our blog for more podcast advertising tips.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood | True Native Media | Podcast Advertising Playbook
21 minutes | Nov 9, 2022
Content Alignment and How It Impacts Advertising Results with Ame Fuhlbruck
“My biggest encouragement is always keeping an open mind. Keep an open mind and keep very strict reporting.  Both are equally important. And, with those paired, I think you can create a very easy roadmap for successful advertising within the podcast industry.”   One of the cornerstones of successful advertising is always testing new things, but who hasn’t been stuck in their comfort zone before? If you’re currently feeling a little stuck, you’re in the right spot.   In today’s episode, Heather Osgood is joined by True Native Media’s very own account executive, Ame Fuhlbruck.   In her almost two years at True Native Media, Ame has become an expert in analyzing successful podcast advertising campaigns. Ame and Heather discuss:   Content alignment and how to achieve it. The difference between audience targeting and content targeting. Identifying where your campaign is gaining traction. Understanding the listening patterns of your audience. How brand safety plays a role in content alignment. Why you need to keep an open mind in advertising.   To learn more about Ame, visit truenativemedia.com or connect with her on LinkedIn.  If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/
34 minutes | Oct 26, 2022
Lookalike Audiences and Building Campaigns with James Ingrassia
Are you doing everything you can to make a successful podcast advertising campaign?  “Podcast buying, let’s say this tongue in cheek, but it’s hard. It’s not easy…The goal is that you’re getting those really engaged people who, you know, are listening to the host for that content, and they’re gonna convert.” James Ingrassia, EVP Client Services at Oxford Road.  Creating and executing a podcast advertising campaign can get tricky. From identifying your target audience to finding shows that align with your brand messaging, there are a lot of things to consider.  This is why I sat down with James Ingrassia to make sure you feel ready to tackle your next podcast advertising campaign. In this episode, we discuss: Lookalike audiences and how they can influence your campaigns. The similarities between old-school radio ads and newer podcast ads. Why you should be implementing a “how’d you hear about us” survey.  How podcast hosts as influencers impact ad campaigns.  Podcast advertising and why it’s not as easy as you might think To learn more about James, visit Oxfordroad.com or connect with him on LinkedIn.  Read the accompanying blog post here. If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/
23 minutes | Oct 12, 2022
6 Podcast Advertising Trends To Watch 2022
44 minutes | Sep 28, 2022
Essential Tips and Tricks for Brand Advertisers in Podcasting
“What an advertiser’s doing with podcasting, they’re really leaning into or capitalizing on the super intimate relationship the host has built with their audience.” Meredith Krantz Vice President, Digital Partnerships at Westwood One. Not all brands utilize podcast advertising, but maybe all brands should. The lack of clear standardization across the podcasting space can make podcast advertising look like the wild wild west, but podcasts have uniqueness and authenticity that can’t be ignored.  The podcast advertising space is growing fast, and Meredith Krantz from Westwood One is here to ensure we’re growing with it. We discuss: Brand Advertising 2.0 Why you need to get out of your marketing comfort zone The impacts of mixing up your creative content What to do when you’re ready to scale your reach  Why your brand should be utilizing podcast advertising To learn more about Meredith, visit WestwoodOne.com or connect with her on LinkedIn.     If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/
43 minutes | Sep 14, 2022
Dark Social Has Transformed The Buyer's Journey with Chris Walker
"Marketers that continue to copy the Salesforce playbook from 2006 for their 50-person SaaS company will continue to struggle. Nobody in a growth phase can win with this strategy anymore." Chris Walker Founder and CEO of Refine Labs. Buyers are taking an entirely new approach to make a purchasing decision. They are using slack communities, podcasts, social posts, friends' recommendations, and events to find solutions to their problems. Marketers stuck in the old ways will fall off if they don't understand how to use and measure their success with dark social and zero-click content.   One of the most significant issues is marketers don't know how to change their mindset or where to start this new strategy. So I invited Chris Walker from Refine Labs to help us out. We discuss: What dark social means How it is impacting the buying journey How podcasting and podcast advertising is involved How marketers can measure their efforts What the future holds for marketing To learn more about Chris, visit refinelabs.com or connect with him on Linkedin. If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - Heather Osgood
22 minutes | Sep 7, 2022
2022 Podcast Movement Highlights and Exciting News
Podcast Movement is my favorite event of the year. I get to see old friends and make new ones. I network with clients and discuss my favorite topic - anything related to podcast advertising. This year felt so good to see everyone in person ready to do business. Although I don't get to attend many sessions because I am jam-packed with meetings, I have conversations with industry leaders about important topics. These are what I will share with you today. Dynamic ad insertion was a hot topic this year. The main point was how we could make DAI as effective as baked-in ads. How can the industry standardize and put processes in place to improve DAI? Us versus Spotify. There are many independent podcasters and podcast companies at Podcast Movement, so this conversation got many people fired up. (I share some personal thoughts on this in the episode.) The amazing new tech that is developing in the industry. Brand Safety versus Brand suitability - are two very different things. Maintaining a collaborative and inclusive culture within podcasting. There has been growth, but how can we do more? If you attended Podcast Movement 2022, let me know what you learned by tweeting @truenativemedia with your favorite takeaways. P.S - I also have some exciting news to share ( a new company I just launched called The Podcast Broker), so listen to the end to hear more about how you could sell your podcast and make money! Visit https://www.thepodcastbroker.com/ to learn more. ____________________________ Please consider subscribing and leaving a review if you get value from the content. You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/
41 minutes | Aug 31, 2022
Why is Brand Safety A Hot Topic In Podcast Advertising?
I don't think we talk enough about brand safety in podcasting. You might ask yourself, "Well, Heather, what is brand safety, and why is it important in podcast advertising?" As Tamara Nelson, Co-Founder of Barometer explains, "Whatever content you advertise on is what your brand becomes associated with, and that can sometimes be a very negative association."  Podcasting is relatively unregulated, so it can create challenges for marketers and brands looking to advertise in the space where anyone can create the content they want. Marketers don't have all of the information at their fingertips to track the ins and outs of every podcast episode, so Tamara has created Barometer to help solve this issue. She also talks about GARM (Global Alliance For Responsible Media) and the guidelines they are creating for podcasting to help mitigate issues for advertisers. GARM is a cross-industry initiative established by the World Federation of Advertisers to address the challenge of harmful content on digital media platforms and its monetization via advertising. I found this conversation to be highly enlightening and really helped me t understand the difference between brand safety and brand suitability and why we should all be talking about the growth of this industry sector. To learn more, visit Barometer's website. You can also connect with Tamara on LinkedIn. If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media
37 minutes | Aug 17, 2022
Here’s Why You Need A Brand Audio Strategy
Over the last five years, audio has risen to challenge video in a way I never thought would happen. While everyone says, "Attention spans are getting shorter; make bite-size content," I have seen the long-form podcasting style thrive. But many brands are not paying attention to building a robust audio strategy because they are stuck on attracting GenZ on TikTok. So how do you create a brand audio strategy? It's a great question that not many people know the answer to. So I invited Korri Kolesa, CRO at Veritonic, to share her expert knowledge on what a brand audio strategy is (hint: it's not just podcasting) and how a brand can start to build it. "Are you playing in terrestrial space? Do you have a sonic logo? How are you building your audio footprint to make your brand unforgettable?" These are all questions that Korri recommends you strategize over. We also discuss measuring your audio ads for quality, effectiveness, and competitive advantage using Veritonic's exclusive audio scoring. "It allows us in the market to understand the benchmark of audio. What is that human response to sound, and how do you quantify that?" This was a fascinating interview, and I encourage you to learn more about the benefits of creating a brand audio strategy from this episode. To learn more about Veritonic, visit their website. You can also connect with them on LinkedIn. If you get value from the content, please consider subscribing and leaving a review! You can also follow us on social Twitter - @truenativemedia Instagram - @truenativemedia YouTube - True Native Media LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/
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