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This Old Marketing

378 Episodes

72 minutes | Jun 2, 2023
AI: The End Is Near (378)
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the 22-word statement from the creators of AI. Simply put, we are in big trouble. WPP launches a content engine with Nvidia that will make the production of ads quicker and easier because of AI. I know...everything we always wanted. Elon continues to push Twitter over the edge, including a big middle-finger to the EU's Disinformation Code of Practice, and the formal outsourcing of their ad unit. And finally, does purpose-driven content have a place with "everybody" brands today? Rants and raves include a fan moment at the Indy 500 and the hope that Peloton has righted the ship. This week's links: AI Could Destroy Humanity WPP Building AI Content Engine Elon Drops Moderation Twitter Outsources Ads Twitter Worth One-Third Less Purpose-Driven Marketing Peloton's New Brand Move Indy 500 Champ Goes Fans First ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
65 minutes | May 26, 2023
Meta to Announce Twitter Competitor Called Instaflop (377)
In this episode, Elon goes full Murdoch, trying to build Twitter into the next Fox News. Advertising continues to plummet for media companies and creators. How long will this ad recession last? There are rumors that Meta will announce a Twitter competitor any time now. Joe and Robert believe this is false news. And TikTok sues Montana in the goofball move of the year (by Montana, not TikTok). Rants and raves include the creator economy middle class and 71 percent of CMOs want more marketing tech budget. This week's links: Musk Moves in on Murdoch Advertising Is in a Recession Instagram to Release Twitter Competitor? TikTok Sues Montana Marketers Want More Budget [Research] The Creator Economy Middle Class ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
73 minutes | May 19, 2023
Clear & Present Altman (376)
The battle for AI continues...this time on the Hill. Sam Altman testified to Congress, doing his best Harrison Ford impression (you'll get the reference after listening). The writers' strike continues, and now includes generative AI at the center. And there is a new product coming out that could solve the copyright battle. Podcasting ads are going gangbusters, while Google is about the change the face of search (maybe). Rants and raves include the Daily Dracula and a lesson about advertising from Dotdash Meredith. This week's links: Sam Altman Takes the Hill Copyright and the Writers' Strike A New Copyright Savior?  Podcasting Ad Growth New Google Search DotDash Meredith's New Advertising Model ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
71 minutes | May 12, 2023
The Battle for Trust (375)
The next great online battle is that over trust. We are seeing this play out in front of us, first with the news of Tucker Carlson moving from Fox to Twitter, then Elon's "trust nothing" decree, and then as millions flood to follow MrBeast. Google and Microsoft go to battle over AI advertising products that aren't ready for market yet. Rants and raves include Berkshire Hathaway's annual letter and Salesforce's pivot to AI. This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! This week's links: Tucker Carlson to Twitter Elon Musk and Trust Nothing MrBeast Increases Followers by 20 Million in a Day MSFT to Monetize Chat and AI Google's Generative AI Search Ads Berkshire's Annual Letter to Investors Salesforce Pivots to AI ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
40 minutes | May 5, 2023
Robert and Joe Live from CEX: Creator Economy Expo (374)
For only the fourth time in history, Joe and Robert record a live episode face-to-face. Creator Economy Expo (CEX) 2023 brought content creators from all over the world together between May 1st and 3rd. The boys do a complete roundup of the latest creator economy research, as well as an overview of the keynotes at CEX, all inside the Evergreen Podcast Networks studio at CEX. This week's links: 2023 Creator Economy Research from The Tilt Creator Economy Expo ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
73 minutes | Apr 28, 2023
AI in Content: How Much Is Too Much? (373)
Big media news this week as multiple big name personalities get let go, plus Buzzfeed News decides to shutter its news division. Twitter's verification system is, frankly, all over the place. Elon cannot keep a decision for more than 24 hours at this point. ChatGPT announces new privacy options you didn't even know was a problem. Is AI and content making more or less sense these days? Rants and raves include AI consumer research and a mea culpa from Robert and his take on Bud Light's marketing. This week's stories: Buzzfeed News Closure Twitter's Botched Verification ChatGPT's Privacy Settings AI Consumer Survey Bud Light Fires Marketing Execs ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  
66 minutes | Apr 20, 2023
Twitter X and Its Boujie Verification Service (372)
Elon is back in the news, announcing that Twitter will now report directly into X corp. Is this the X everything app plan or a way to hide expenses? A Drake song goes viral that wasn't really Drake. Joe and Robert discuss the impact of AI parodies from music to text (and what we should expect). Spotify goes non-exclusive with Gimlet. Was this a planned or surprise move? And a new Deloitte survey shows that video games now top the content chart. What other changes in content consumption are ahead? Rants and raves include the movie Air and how B2B content marketing needs to step up. This week's articles: Twitter Now X Corp Could Elon Turn a Profit Soon? AI Drake Goes Viral Spotify and Gimlet Video Games Top Content Charts B2B Content Marketing Needs to Bold Up ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
67 minutes | Apr 14, 2023
TikTok's Lemon8 Battles Instagram (371)
Bytedance, the owner of TikTok, puts big money behind their Instagram/Pinterest clone called Lemon8. Pushing for a May launch in the states, Lemon8 is going directly after Instagram (and perhaps the US government). Will it succeed in an already crowded social media field? Bud Light gets hate mail from Kid Rock. Is that a good or bad thing? And AI continues to be the leading story in the world of marketing. When will the hurting stop? In rants and raves, Joe raves about a Lin-Manuel Miranda clip, while Robert rants about Twitter (again). This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! This week's links: A Lemon8 Overview Lemon8 Gets Big Downloads Bud Light Backlash Hank Green Is Scared of AI Can AI Defame You? Lin-Manuel Miranda/John Kander Clip on Colbert Twitter's Checkmark Blues ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
45 minutes | Apr 7, 2023
10 Proven Ways to Build an Audience [Special Episode] (370)
In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert go back and forth each sharing the five best decisions they made over their careers that helped them build a loyal audience. While some are no brainers, a few of these will surprise you. We hope you enjoy this very special episode of This Old Marketing. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
62 minutes | Mar 31, 2023
Invest in Substack: Baller Move or Desperation Play? (369)
This week, the boys analyze the surprise announcement from Substack about how they want their customers to also be investors. Is this an innovative or inclusionary move, or a sign that the Substack business model is suffering? Some big hitters move against the proliferation of AI. Good move or too late? Twitter and Meta are both going full-out "verified" and want money from their creators. Is this a necessary evil or something we should ignore? Rants and raves include a prison marathon and an AI rant from Robert. This week's links: Invest with Substack Is Substack Crazy or Evil? Social Media Goes Paid Route US Ad Forecast Cut Again Musk and Others Call for Stop to AI Everyone Is an AI Expert San Quentin Marathon ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  
66 minutes | Mar 24, 2023
Is TikTok a Spy Balloon In Your Pants? (368)
Oh boy is TikTok in the news this week. Now more than 150 million Americans use TikTok on a regular basis. The US government believes this is a security risk for multiple reasons. But most people aren't talking about the #1 reason (we discuss this). Streaming is down from its lofty levels. Will it continue to dip? We think it might. Is there a new streaming model on the way? And social media is going the way of the DM. What does this mean for marketers? In rants and raves, Joe raves about Rand Fishkin's ChatGPT rant while Robert rants (again) about zero-party data. This week's links: TikTok to 150M Map of States Banning TikTok TikTok Gears Up for Congress Streaming Slowdown Social Media and the DM Zero-Party Data Rant YouTube and Podcasts Rand's ChatGPT Rant ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
63 minutes | Mar 17, 2023
A Marketing Masterclass from Ryan Reynolds (367)
This week, TikTok is back in the news with an ultimatum from Biden's camp. The SVB collapse takes center stage, and Joe and Robert go into the weeds discussing it. Will Meta be the next AOL? We think the news is overblown. ChatGPT-4 is released and the world turns on its axis. And then there is Ryan Reynolds, who sells Mint Mobile for $1.3 billion, an entirely marketing-driven feet. How did he do it? Let's discuss. In rants and raves, Joe comments about content creation and patience while Robert raves about HBO's "The Last of Us." This week's links: TikTok Ultimatum SVB Collapse Meta? The Next AOL? ChatGPT-4 Released T-Mobile Buys Mint from Reynolds and Team ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
69 minutes | Mar 10, 2023
US TikTok Ban Goes Too Far (366)
TikTok is all over the news again. This time, a bipartisan committee has come up with a bill for Biden to ban TikTok. But not just that. It will give executive powers to ban pretty much anything that they "deem" a security risk. Joe and Robert believe this bill goes too far. In other news, Medium makes a "meh" announcement about Mastodon, while this week just about every major tech company launched an AI product. Oh...and tech pub Wired wrote a manifesto for using AI. And it's not bad. Rants and raves include easybib.com and living life without regrets. This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! This week's links: US TikTok Ban Detail Medium and Mastodon Microsoft's AI Integration Salesforce's New Einstein Hubspot Chatspot Wired's Guidelines for Using AI OpenAI Criticism No Regrets ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
69 minutes | Mar 3, 2023
Say Goodbye to Free Social Media (365)
The godfather is back for the special #ThisOldMarketing 365 reunion show. In this episode the boys break down Meta's new verified subscription program. Could it be that they say good things about Facebook for the first time ever? Substack hits two million paid subscriptions. Is this important for creators? Bing continues to get all the news with its ongoing issues with AI. Could marketing be the answer? And...we bring brack our "Musky Scent" series and talk about Elon's next move. Finally...will TikTok finally go bye bye? This week's links: Meta's Verified Substack 2 Million Microsoft and Bing's AI Twitter Keeps Breaking Twitter Lays Off More Jack Launches Twitter Alternative TikTok Be Banned? In Praise of Brand Newsletters ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week.Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
41 minutes | Feb 24, 2023
A Deep Dive into ChatGPT and Marketing AI [Special Episode] (364)
With Joe on another sabbatical, Robert hosts the amazing Paul Roetzer, the world's foremost expert on marketing and AI content. Robert asks Paul the following: 1. How do you think the development of AI-based search affects brands willingness to make content available to search engines? Will people start putting more of their content behind a gate? 2. From a content and marketing perspective – where are you most BULLISH, and where are you most CONCERNED about the impact AI is likely to have in the short and medium term? 3. I’m going to come back to the question that I asked at MarketingProfs, which is – do you think MarketingAI becomes an OS in the Marketing Department?  In other words you Buy Microsoft AI or Amazon AI and it powers your email analytics, headline writing, copywriting, and first-party data pattern matching… OR… Do you think that suite solutions are more likely to just include whatever flavor of AI they buuild into their applications? 4. What are some of the developments in Marketing Artificial Intelligence that we’re NOT talking about? You posted a very interesting thing on Social Media on the assembly and creation of video (https://research.runwayml.com/gen1)- Talk a bit about this development and what ELSE are we NOT talking about that we should be. This week's link: AI Concens at Bing and Google MAICON - The Marketing AI Conference Paul's Book - Marketing Artificial Intelligence ***** Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  
70 minutes | Feb 17, 2023
Is AI Content a Race to the Bottom? (363)
In this episode, Time and Taboola team up (is that Timeboola?) for a new eCommerce experiment. Is eCommerce the new sponsorship for publishers? The disinformation war is over. Disinformation won. And AI content is changing the business model for creators and the fight for search. Does this open a real opportunity for those who have audiences? Is AI content just a race to the bottom? In rants and raves, Joe loves this new research out about reading fiction, while Robert's viral post on the comma goes, well, viral. This week's links: Time/Taboola Deal The Disinformation War Is Over Content Creators Concerned Over AI Content Buzzfeed AI and the Death of Content Reading Fiction Makes You a Better Person Robert's Comma Post on LinkedIn Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
40 minutes | Feb 10, 2023
A Special Episode: The Accurate Future of Social Media (362)
In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert break down the good, the bad and the ugly for social media platforms in 2023 and beyond, including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, Twitter and more. This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
68 minutes | Feb 3, 2023
An AI Content Buffet with a Side of Search (361)
More ChatGPT news this week, as Microsoft works to integrate the AI tool into Bing, while Buzzfeed's stock soars as the company announces their new work process that includes ChatGPT. It's earnings time, as Spotify and Meta both announce...and bounce. What's Spotify's new podcast plan? Can Meta make a comeback? And the boys get bullish on LinkedIn, as their newsletter plan jumps 10x in the past year. Rants and raves includes MrBeast and streaming competition. This week's story links: Super Bowl Ad Preview MSFT Integrates AI into Bing Buzzfeed Announces ChatGPT Play Spotify's Earnings Meta's Stock Soars LinkedIn's Big Newsletter Play Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
69 minutes | Jan 27, 2023
The Future of Podcasting: Is a Bear Market on the Horizon? (360)
This friday is the last day to save $500 at Creator Economy Expo. Register here and save an extra $100 by using coupon code TOM. This week the boys discuss a breaking story about OpenAI and Kenya. The memes are everywhere. Spotify is laying off six percent of its workforce. Are they signaling something about a podcast bear market we should know about? The DOJ is coming down hard on Google. Are they five years too late? Rants and raves include the story behind the media layoffs, and more on Joe's LinkedIn experiment. This week's story links: OpenAI and Kenyan Workers Spotify Layoffs Google's Antitrust Lawsuit More Media Layoffs Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
72 minutes | Jan 20, 2023
The Battle for AI Dominance (359)
The past few weeks have been everything ChatGPT and AI. Joe and Robert cover multiple AI lawsuits, as well as Microsoft's $10 billion dollar bet on OpenAI. JPMorgan forgets to do major due diligence in its content marketing purchase, while Parler seems to be saying bye bye. In "musky scent" Elon has a garage sale. Oh...and the boys are still arguing about the definition of content marketing. This week's links: AI Copyright Lawsuit Getty Art Lawsuit MSFT's Bet on OpenAI JPMorgan's Frank Failure Parler Layoffs Twitter Garage Sale Twitter Debt Payments Brand Publishing vs. Content Marketing Musk Inspires Layoffs Higher Headcount Bad at Twitter --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
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