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To kick off the show, Joe and Robert detail their "advanced" Clubhouse experience (likes and dislikes) and why it may have legs. And did you check out the Tom Cruise deepfakes? Roku buys Nielsen's Advanced Video property, and increases its chances to corner the personalized TV advertising market. Axios details the ever-increasing amount of gambling properties getting into the content marketing game. Twitter does a Twitch and plans to launch a "Super Follows" program, which will most likely integrate into Twitter Spaces. And finally, Facebook launches a huge ad campaign against Apple's privacy restrictions. Can anyone say Philip Morris? In rants and raves, Joe discusses Wall Street Bets move to decentralization and Kings of Leon's new NFT while Robert rants about Google's privacy bomb. ------ This week's sponsor: Exceed.ai It is a known, and sad, fact that SaaS companies spend a not-so-small fortune on lead gen. CRMs are clogged with leads that, truth be told, get very little attention, usually in the form of nurture automation, a.k.a. pre-defined email sequence. The result? Few leads are converted and qualified into SQLs. Money spent goes to waste as sales team don’t have the capacity to properly qualify leads resulting in cold to lukewarm leads being pushed to sales calls just to ‘fill in the quota’, so to speak. This time, it’s time that’s wasted. You know where this is going… there must be a better way... Enter Exceed, intelligent AI that autonomously and automatically nurtures and qualifies leads. Exceed digs into your CRM and starts engaging leads in two-way conversations via email, website chat and text messages. The interactions are wholly conversational and personalized based on user and historical data. Once the AI qualifies a lead it independently books a sales call with the relevant sales rep and – immediately – goes back to qualifying more leads.  https://exceed.ai/ ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This week Joe and Robert cover the big news that, after the passage of a media bargaining law, Facebook bans all media companies from its app. Shock abounds, with a number of sites that are "not" media companies being affected. YouTube tries to be more like TikTok and Snap and launches a number of "short-video" strategies. And news from the passion economy with the launch of Li Jin's Atelier Ventures, a $13 million fund to support content creators and content creator tech. Rants and raves include Joe's take on non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and Robert's commentary on how tech companies are taking over higher education. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.  

It's our annual "rip apart the Super Bowl ads" show, which may not mean much since viewership sank to a 15-year low. Twitter announced stellar earnings, including a possible subscription plan roll out. In addition, Twitter is getting aggressive with Spaces (their Clubhouse competitor). Facebook's getting into the mix as well. How much time does Clubhouse have? Will it survive? Niche media companies (like Allrecipes) are all the rage. Even the New York Times is launching a newsletter for kids. Rants and raves include how New York Times is doubling down on its email newsletter model, while the Atlantic and Salesforce partner on a Black-history project. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Twitter was abuzz this week when Hubspot announced their purchase of newsletter/small-business media company the Hustle. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. That said, everyone is very happy (except tech companies and traditional media). Clubhouse, now worth a billion dollars, says it's getting into the subscription game. Good idea? Maybe...but a better idea for Twitter. The boys go in-depth on the future of social audio. Joe is high on the idea...Robert is meh at best. Rants and raves includes Tim Cook's war on Facebook and how the Columbia Journalism Review is uber bias. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

The big news of the week was Twitter buying Revue, a Substack competitor that launches Twitter into the subscription business. What could save or kill the media business? SPACs! Media SPACs are off to a roaring start for 2021, with no end in sight. Rolling Stone does a Forbes and starts a pay-to-play "culture" council, further destroying the once-great media brand, while Clubhouse becomes a Unicorn and is the big social media craze of the year (so far). Rants and raves include Robert's rave about a Google Analytics competitor while Joe raves about wallstreetbets taking on Wall Street. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Forbes announced the launch of their own version of Substack, a paid newsletter program driven by independent writers. As the war for content creators heats up, rumors swell around Apple launching a podcast-plus subscription program to compete with Spotify for exclusive (and walled off) audio content. And as the fight for creators continues, media companies begin to decide who owns the RSS feed as media consumption hits over 70 hours per week in the United States. Robert rants about a Martech announcement that means absolutely nothing, while Joe raves about Disney's acquisition strategy and Netflix investing $20 billion in content. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This week on This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert cover Amazon taking down Parler. Does it tell us anything about free speech? And, while that was happening, someone scraped all Parler's data. The run on music archives continues, with OneRepublic's Ryan Tedder getting a boat load of cash for songs we've never heard. How does the media rebound? By becoming human again of course. Axios launched a 10k subscription product to help brands communicate better internally. They may not have priced it high enough. And as a cake topper, over 1,000 brands unknowingly ran ads against articles promoting conspiracy theories. We are shocked. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Mr Beast's origin story, while Robert gushes over Edelman's Trust Barometer. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

In episode 253 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with Roku's possible purchase of Quibi content (yes, that Quibi). Roku, whose stock has appreciated over 1,000 percent in just a few years, is taking its playbook directly from the Netflix content model. There is a podcasting gold rush and it looks like it may turn out to be a two-company party (Amazon vs. Spotify). But the opportunity isn't just podcasting, but all audio content. 2021 may be the year of text to audio. Media and content purchases went crazy this week, with MARQUE buying Closet Full of Cash, Sykes buying The Penny Hoarder, and Wyndham Destinations buying Travel + Leisure. Is this just the start? Uh...short answer is yes. Rants and raves include a movement from monthly to quarterly subscriptions and Joe's call for another look at print media. Robert discusses the implications of the new Clubhouse social media app and the case for two spaces after a period. This week's sponsor: CXL Institute Catch past episodes and episode show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This Old Marketing will never be the same. This episode is taken over by Jay Acunzo, who goes inside how the podcast is made, including the early days, the process and the minimal success (and major failures) of Pulizzi and Rose. Special thanks to Jay for spending one agonizing hour with This Old Marketing. Find Jay at 3 Clips with Jay Acunzo (podcasters take you inside their best work) and Growable Shows -- Jay's course on show development and growth for marketers. ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.  

In this episode, the FTC sues Facebook for illegal monopolization. Thanks Captain Obvious! For decades, as newspapers declined, local news suffered. The University of Kansas found a solution, but Joe and Robert feel corporate dollars could be the real savior. KFC launches a Lifetime mini-movie starring Mario Lopez. Joe and Robert simply can't wait to see it. Substack is on fire! More and more journalists and reporters are flocking to the email subscription platform. Is this a good thing? A 2020 "year in review" finds that audio wins, paid subscription busted out, and email remains the first-party data champ. Robert raves about Bob Dylan's $300 million dollar content sale and comments on Frameworks and Flywheels. Joe rants about Polska Press being purchased by an organization owned by the state. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

In this special Turkey Day episode, Joe and Robert cover some touchy brand communication issues, including how some brands like Oreo and Snickers are having fun with Twitter's "disputed claims." In addition, the boys spend plenty of time talking about how "the vid" has accelerated major changes in content marketing and e-commerce media. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Morning Brew sells its email subscription juggernaut for $75 million, building the email newsletter model for all the follow. The New York Times digital subscription business goes boom boom, while text-to-speech is the next big thing you've never "heard" of. And Beyonce decides to form a huge content partnership with Peloton instead of being interviewed on the This Old Marketing podcast. Robert raves about Philip Kotler's new blog and Adobe acquiring WorkFront. Joe raves about Netflix starting a programmed channel and how Twitch is not just for gamers anymore. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here. Joe and Robert answer: - What will happen to the martech industry? - What big names will be bought and sold in 2021? - Who wins in content marketing...and who loses? - What does the future of in-person events look like? And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020. The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up. In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong). Robert has a new Quibi update (it's not good for Quibi) and raves (and rants) about Kraft's new commercial. Joe raves about Amazon's new print catalog and believes Juggernaut has it figured out when it comes to email newsletters. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.  

In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry. News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry. And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow. Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic? The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech. And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results. In rants and raves, Joe applauds the new Accidentally Wes Anderson book, while Robert laments zero-party data. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site. LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network. In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Major media companies from around the United States are divesting their real estate properties to right-size their business models. Washington Post pushes forward into native advertising territory as traditional advertising falters. Audio is even bigger than we thought it would be, while creators at TikTok don't understand that they built their homes on rented land, and are now searching for a way out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Twinsthenewtrend and their viral video (and video strategy) behind "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins. Robert applauds High Times for buying up dispensaries in California (another Content Inc. model). This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.  

First, watch the Nike ad if you haven't. Required watching. TikTok was in the news this week, with a crazy deal in progress with Microsoft. In other news, Industry Dive purchased Newscred's content marketing studio business, while Digiday finds that branded content and native advertising spending is on a downward trend. Freightwaves media business has taken off and Buzzfeed now sells products (of course they do). Robert has another Quibi update and comments on Tom Goodwin's firing from Publicis. Joe loves the launch of The 19th, and comments about the closing of Folio: magazine. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right? Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.