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In Episode 6 we’re in conversation with Rev. Ginger Gaines-Cirelli. She is the first woman to serve as senior pastor of historic Foundry United Methodist Church, which sits within blocks of The White House in Washington D.C. Foundry welcomes all, worships passionately, challenges the status quo and seeks to transform the world through God's love. Cirelli shares where Christian witness and dissent intersect during this honest and inspiring conversation. RESOURCES 4 Tips on Preaching on Politically Charged Topics, Ginger Gaines-Cirelli for Lewis Center for Church Leadership Sacred Resistance is About Our Being, Not Just Our Doing, Ginger Gaines-Cirelli for Faith and Leadership Sacred Resistance Ministry Team at Foundry UMC

In Episode 5 we’re in conversation with Rev. Juan Carlos Huertas, lead pastor of First United Methodist Church in Houma, Louisiana. A native of Puerto Rico and a spiritual director, Huertas loves writing about discipleship as empowerment to transform our neighborhoods, cities, and world. He is a frequent contributor to Day1.org and MinistryMatters.com and recently co-authored The Marks of Hope through Abingdon Press. Huertas brings his honesty, humor and wisdom to this rich conversation. Resources Listening guide Preaching from the Margins to the Center, Juan Carlos Huertas for Ministry Matters

In Episode 4 we’re in conversation with Mike McCurry. From 1995 to 1998, McCurry was the White House Press Secretary for the Clinton administration. Today he is the Director for the Center for Public Theology at Wesley Theological Seminary. McCurry shares his five C’s for effective communication, how to leave room for disagreement and more. Course Syllabus for Church, Politics, & Race in a Polarized Society from Wesley Seminary Mike McCurry's 5 C's of Communication, Washington Post Media Relations Handbook for Agencies, Associations, Nonprofits, and Congress By Brad Fitch Mike McCurry answers follow-up questions from Missouri clergy

In Episode 3 we’re in conversation with Rev. Dr. Tex Sample, pastor of Trinity United Methodist Church in Kansas City. Through personal stories and extensive research, Tex shares insights and actionables related to reaching the white working class. Tex Sample is the Robert B. And Kathleen Rogers Professor Emeritus of Church and Society at The Saint Paul School of Theology where he taught for 32 years. A freelance lecturer and speaker in North America and overseas, he has published 14 books. His book, Blue Collar Ministry, was named a “Judson Classic” by the Judson Press, and his book U. S. Lifestyles and Mainline Churches was the bestseller for Westminster/John Knox Press for over two years. His most recent book is Working Class Rage, available from Abingdon Press. RESOURCES Teaching Biblical Patriotism as Pastoral Care: God, Country and Stories of Working Class Pain, Tex Sample for Ministry Matters Community Organizing Bibliography Working Class Rage by Tex Sample

In Episode 2 we’re in conversation with Dr. Leah Gunning Francis, Vice President for Academic Affairs and Dean of the Faculty at Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, Indiana. Dr. Gunning Francis is the author of Ferguson and Faith: Sparking Leadership and Awakening Community. She lived in St. Louis and served on the Eden Seminary faculty during the Ferguson uprising. For the book, she interviewed more than two dozen clergy and young activists who engaged in the quest for racial justice following the shooting death of Michael Brown, Jr. in Ferguson, Missouri. Dr. Gunning Francis offers wisdom and practical advice for finding your voice and speaking up and out. Studying Congregations: A New Handbook Ferguson and Faith: Sparking Leadership and Awakening Community White Like Me: Reflections on Race by a Privileged Son by Tim Wise Is it Time? Helping Laity and Clergy Discuss Homosexuality One Question at a Time by Adolf Hansen Vital Conversations on Racism: A Guide to Small-Group Discussions about the Video Series, General Commission on Race and Religion Dear White Christians: For Those Still Longing for Racial Reconciliation by Jennifer Harvey