86 minutes | Jul 13, 2020

Hope vs. Optimism: Chris Gehrz

Jason and Patrick are reunited in nature. Actually, we're just socially distancing! We chat Liberty University, their underground LGBTQ group and implications of sexual identity as part of the whole individual. Then, we welcome Chris Gehrz, author of The Pietist Option, on the show to chat about Pietism, and ultimately hope. 
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