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Notorious ROB Podcast
52 minutes | Sep 7, 2021
Ep 27: Real Estate Photo Copyrights - Issues and Solutions w/ Vince Collura and Lucy Edwards of VHT
I interview Vince Collura, COO, and Lucy Edwards, Director of Client Success for VHT Studios, one of the leading real estate photography networks in the country, on an issue of some importance in real estate that almost never gets talked about: photography and copyrights.We get into the issues with real estate photography and copyrights, why it is that copyright is a real problem, why brokers, agents and even photographers themselves often don't understand the problem, and then explore possible solutions including futuristic blockchain-based solutions.
72 minutes | Aug 23, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 26: Blockchain and Real Estate with Eric Bryant
We return to exploring blockchain technology in real estate with a man whose name was the most often mentioned when I asked my audience for who to speak to. Eric Bryant is a longtime real estate coach and his day job is as the national account director at First American. But he is also the head of southern California chapter of FIBREE.org, the Foundation for International Blockchain and Real Estate Expertise.We get into some of the details about the tech and real estate and where we're at with this technology, what he sees as the real opportunities, and what needs to happen for the industry to get there. As is normal for this series, we're trying to avoid getting too technical but frankly, we can't avoid it entirely.LINKS:FIBREE.ORG: https://fibree.org/Eric Bryant, LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therecoach/
69 minutes | Aug 20, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 25: Problems with REALTOR Compensation with Peter Lohmann
In this episode, I speak with Peter Lohmann of the Owner Occupied podcast (link below) about problems with REALTOR compensation. He and Kevin Clark debate the issues in a very interesting podcast, and I wanted to follow up with Peter on those discussions. This is a wide-ranging conversation about Peter, property management, REALTORS, NAR, Zillow, etc.-----Peter's Owner Occupied Podcast channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrk6yRgb0NAOBt10z2VZoAThe episode with Kevin Clark: https://youtu.be/9XvVBvlpAGA
78 minutes | Jul 29, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 24: Real Problem of Real Estate with Wendy Gilch, Sellinglater.com
Taking a break from our investigation into blockchain technology and real estate, we turn instead to a proptech entrepreneur who started a company out of personal frustration, only to discover what she thinks is the real problem in real estate: gatekeeping.Wendy Gilch is the founder and CEO of Sellinglater.com, which is morphing into a consumer education community. I include a video of a presentation that she gave to Customer Commons laying out the gatekeeping problem, and why it affects everything for consumers.I am also joined by Sunny Lake Hahn, whose experience as an agent and broker helps to inform the discussion.====Links====Notorious ROB main website: https://www.notoriousrob.comFor Wendy Gilch:Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendygilch/Linkedin Selling Laterhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/selling-later/?viewAsMember=trueFacebookhttps://www.facebook.com/sellinglaterInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/selling_later/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UChAAk97NVzNu9-n_RyNy4bwTiktok (Wendy)https://www.tiktok.com/@laterwendyIFUNDWomen Accounthttps://ifundwomen.com/projects/consumer-ally-real-estateWebsitewww.Sellinglater.comDirect Community Linkhttps://Community.sellinglater.com
56 minutes | Jul 21, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 23: John DiMichele, Toronto Regional Real Estate Board
I speak with the CEO of Toronto Regional Real Estate Board, the largest REALTOR Association as well as the largest single-Association MLS in North America, about their efforts to include blockchain technology in the MLS. As John has long been one of the biggest proponents of this technology in the space, and one of the leaders pursuing innovation using blockchain in real estate, I wanted to learn more about what TRREB is doing and what his vision for the technology is.Again, as before, this conversation gets technical at times, not to the level of true technologists but possibly beyond the interest of everyday agents. Nonetheless, I thought it worth capturing so we all can understand whether and how blockchain could apply to use cases in real estate.
70 minutes | Jul 14, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 22: Natalia Karanayeva and Joe Budelli of Propy on Blockchain and Real Estate
The Blockchain and Real Estate series continues with a conversation with the CEO and Founder of Propy, Natalia Karanayeva, and the Chief Revenue Officer of Propy, Joe Budelli.Fair Warning: This conversation is filled with rather technical topics about blockchain technology, smart contracts, Ethereum blockchain, layer-2 scaling, transaction fees, DeFi and its impact, etc. etc. These topics will be basic to those familiar with blockchain, but it will be some heavy lifting for those who are not. At times, we might sound like we're speaking Martian.But I felt that to understand the implications and impact and potential of blockchain technology on real estate, it was impossible to do otherwise.Many thanks to Natalia and Joe for their time and expertise. I know I've learned a tremendous amount in this conversation, and I hope you will as well.
56 minutes | Jul 12, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 21: Thomas Park on Blockchain and Real Estate
Part of the Blockchain and Real Estate investigation series. I speak with Thomas Park, CEO and Cofounder of Reitium, a blockchain-based fractional ownership real estate investment platform. We get into the basics, like what is blockchain and why is it relevant to real estate. I ask why blockchain is either necessary or advantageous over centralized database technology. And we have conversations about the promise of this technology for transforming the industry.
65 minutes | Jul 1, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 20: Scott Brady on Integrated Brokerage + Property Management
As the country steadily moves towards #RenterNation, the future of brokerage may be in a combined horizontally integrated company that offers services in property management, leasing, and property sales.I speak to Scott Brady, owner of Progressive Property Management, Progressive Association Management and Partners Real Estate Group, and a pioneer in the combined prop. mgtm + brokerage model. The newly liberated Sunny Lake Hahn is able to join me in talking to Scott.
64 minutes | Jun 14, 2021
Notorious POD Ep. 19: Prof. Scott Hemphill on Antitrust Issues in Real Estate
I interview Prof. Scott Hemphill, Moses H. Grossman Professor of Law at NYU School of Law and co-director of the Engelberg Center on Innovation Law and Policy. There aren't many human beings who would be a better expert to speak to regarding the various lawsuits in the real estate industry.We discuss the various class action lawsuits on commissions (Moehrl, Sitzer, Leeder, etc.) and what the issues are. We discuss REX v. Zillow as well as REX v. Oregon, which deals with the anti-rebate provisions in Oregon. We discuss policy as Prof. Hemphill is actively involved in policy discussions around antitrust, technology, and innovation.This was one of the most enjoyable and enlightening conversations I've ever had, and I thank Prof. Hemphill for his time and insights.
54 minutes | Jun 9, 2021
Notorious POD Ep. 18: Jeff Sibbach, Phil Sexton on Agent Teams, Zillow, Competition
I speak with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton about the realities of today's real estate, how top agent teams are functioning today, and why he believes Zillow is in fact a competitor. We get into a lot of issues including data, IDX, competition in real estate, technology, big aggregators, and consumer behavior. We debate and disagree, and agree, and hopefully educate ourselves and others.
40 minutes | May 24, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep. 17 - NAR Speech Code with Phillip Cantrell
In this episode, I speak with my good friend and mentor, Phillip Cantrell. He is the CEO and founder of Benchmark Realty, the #1 brokerage by market share in the Nashville area. We discuss a sensitive and touchy topic -- the NAR Speech Codes (10.5 and beyond) and how conservative REALTORS feel about the direction of local, state and national REALTOR organizations.I think Phillip is representative of a silent majority of REALTORS out there who are somewhere between uncomfortable and enraged about NAR's shift in direction in getting more and more involved with social/political issues. I say "silent majority" because so few people are willing to take a stance on these divisive issues and talk about how they feel about them. Phillip is the rare leader who is willing to be open about his feelings and thoughts, knowing that it could be controversial. I can say from personal knowledge that there are many, many REALTORS who are unhappy but stay silent. Silence should not be taken as agreement, or even acquiescence.For being willing to share his thoughts, I thank Phillip. For listening, I thank you. This may be a conversation we need to surface and have to see if the REALTOR movement can actually be salvaged.-rsh
52 minutes | May 3, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 16: Keith Robinson
I speak with my friend Keith Robinson, Chief Strategy Officer of NextHome, and one of the smartest guys in the industry who follows economic trends that affect housing. He wrote a great post about whether we're seeing a housing bubble or not, and we discuss and debate what's actually going on.
17 minutes | Apr 27, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 15: Why Not Hourly?
I saw a Facebook post talking about a common problem with real estate agents -- buyer disloyalty. That got me wondering, why aren't we moving towards agents getting paid by the hour? It would solve so many problems.The way that real estate agents are getting paid leads to a lot of issues, one of which is the problem of client disloyalty. A few others -- desperation, lack of differentiation, not being paid like a real professional, lack of alignment in the interests of the client and the agent, etc. I thought I would muse on this as I've been thinking and talking about it for years.
22 minutes | Apr 8, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 14: LEAP & The Role of MLS in 2021
I get inspired by a Listing Bits podcast with Sam DeBord and Michael Wurzer, and decide to join the conversation by talking about LEAP. I think we're not engaging in needed conversation that might make the entire thing less important about the role of the MLS in 2021.
34 minutes | Apr 6, 2021
Notorious POD, Ep 13: The Future of Brokerage White Paper
This is an experiment of sorts, but I wanted to record something where I am solo talking about one of my posts or articles or papers. I chose The Future of Brokerage white paper (free on Notorious ROB) as I've been getting questions about it from brokers when I talk about it on my presentations.
60 minutes | Mar 9, 2021
The Blueprint Sessions, Episode 1: Bryan Copley, Citybldr
The Blueprint Sessions is a monthly podcast for exceptional founders of exceptional Real Estate startups.This inaugural episode features Bryan Copley, Founder & CEO of Citybldr (https://www.citybldr.com/), a fascinating startup based on Seattle who is re-envisioning what a city could be."We build technology that understands every property's highest and best use."Their story is one worth telling and hearing.----------A collaboration between 7DS Associates, Geek Estate Mastermind, and REACH Canada, The Blueprint Sessions profiles the people and startups disrupting the real estate industry and help them tell their stories.We realized that there was precious little space for startups in the real estate space to tell their stories to those who most need to hear them - potential investors, business partners, and forward-looking industry influencers who want to know what is next in real estate. Besides the financials and the strategy, we also wanted to explore the human stories of the incredible entrepreneurs who are making our future. We wanted to know, why did they start their company? What is it that they see that the rest of us don’t see with the same clarity? What do they most worry about and what are they most excited about? The panelists are:- Rob Hahn, Managing Partner, 7DS Associates- Albert Hahn, ex-startup founder and ex-Head of Google for Startups Korea (who also happens to be Rob’s brother)- Lynette Keyowski, Managing Partner of REACH Canada, NAR’s accelerator arm.
63 minutes | Mar 8, 2021
Episode 21: Dr. Jacob Faber, Prof. of Sociology, NYU
In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jacob Faber, an Associate Professor of Sociology and Public Service at NYU, whose field of study is all about race and real estate. I saw him testify at the New York Senate hearings about Long Island Divided, and thought his research and his opinions would be enormously influential. I believe he has been instrumental in the actions that the NY legislature has and will take, and I thought to bring his views directly to you all. Bio:Jacob William Faber is an Associate Professor of Sociology and Public Service in New York University's Robert F. Wagner School of Public Service and holds a joint appointment in NYU's Sociology Department. His research and teaching focuses on spatial inequality. He leverages observational and experimental methods to study the mechanisms responsible for sorting individuals across space and how the distributions of people by race and class interact with political, social, and ecological systems to create and sustain economic disparities. While there is a rich literature exploring the geography of opportunity, there remain many unsettled questions about the causes of segregation and its effects on the residents of urban ghettos, wealthy suburbs, and the diverse set of places in between.His scholarship highlights the rapidly-changing roles of numerous institutional actors (e.g. mortgage lenders, real estate agents, check cashing outlets, and police officers) in facilitating the reproduction of racial and spatial inequality. Through investigation of several aspects of American life, he demonstrates that a pattern of “institutional marginalization” emerges as a powerful mechanism connecting segregation to socioeconomic disadvantage. His work has been published in American Sociological Review, Annual Review of Sociology, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Demography, Social Forces, Housing Policy Debate, and other prominent journals.Professor Faber's scholarship has received recognition from several organizations, including the ASA Latino/Latina Sociology Section, Association for Public Policy Analysis & Management (APPAM), Association of Black Sociologists (ABS), Integrated Public Use Microdata Series (IPUMS), and Society for the Advancement of Socio-Economics (SASE). In 2020, Professor Faber won NYU's Making a Difference Award for his research and teaching on the hidden and unsettled causes of segregation by race. In 2018, he was named NYU Wagner's Professor of the Year and won the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Research Prize.Dr. Faber earned his PhD in Sociology from New York University and worked as a Postdoctoral Research Associate in the Department of Sociology at Princeton University. He also graduated from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology with Master’s degrees in Telecommunications Policy and Urban Studies and Planning and a Bachelor’s degree in Management Science. Between stints at graduate school, Dr. Faber worked as a Senior Researcher for the Center for Social Inclusion, a racial justice policy advocacy organization.
65 minutes | Mar 1, 2021
Ep. 20: Sam Debord, RESO - 3/1/21
In this episode, I interview Sam Debord, CEO of RESO, about a series that he wrote for REALTOR Magazine on the MLS. We also discuss RESO, real estate technology, data, and touch on industry happenings.
84 minutes | Feb 11, 2021
Ep. 19: Joe Rand, Broker Public Portal - 2/09/21
I have a wide-ranging and engaging conversation with Joe Rand, Executive Director of the Broker Public Portal. We cover BPP, Homesnap, CoStar's acquisition, Fair Display Guidelines, the fate of the MLS, the residential real estate industry, and have a fun discussion all around.This one is long, but I think quite enlightening if you want to understand some of the intricacies of the industry.
52 minutes | Jan 28, 2021
Ep. 18: Sean Black, Knock - 1/27/2021
A conversation with Sean Black, Founder & CEO of Knock. We catch up with Sean after his company evolved into more of a platform for the bridge loan model of iBuyer, and get his take on not just what's happening with his company, but what's going on the industry as a whole.
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