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NEXT NORMAL: Re-imagining Capitalism for Our Future
38 minutes | Dec 14, 2021
Compelling Visions of a Well-Being Economy with Jo Swinson
This groundbreaking episode represents a first for the Next Normal podcast! In Episode 12, Amit is joined by Jo Swinson, Director of “Partners for a New Economy” and the former leader of the Liberal Democrats in the United Kingdom – making her the first Next Normal guest with a background in elected public service. In their captivating discussion, Jo paints a vivid picture of life in a re-imagined “well-being economy:” from the way our food would be produced to the way we would spend our time and make money. Leveraging her government background, Jo offers Amit her perspective on the path towards systemic change. She describes the hurdles ahead as we optimize for a more holistic purpose in our global economy.
41 minutes | Oct 22, 2021
Healing the Future: How Regeneration Puts Life at the Center of Everything We Do
For our newest episode of Next Normal, Amit welcomes one of the world’s leading authorities on an increasingly popular concept: regeneration. Paul Hawken, author of the brand-new book Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation, is an activist, advisor, and advocate for systemic transformation by putting regenerative principles at the center of everything we do, including in business and investment. In this episode, Paul underscores the need to “reconnect the broken strands that are an artifact of our economic system” in order to address the climate crisis. To stop stealing the future from ourselves, Paul argues that we must take action to stop harming the planet and, instead, pursue a path that aligns society and business with nature and life.
37 minutes | Sep 24, 2021
Pushing for Equity & Opportunity in the “Invisible Economy” with Ai-jen Poo
In this tenth episode of Next Normal, Amit is joined by the guest most frequently recommended by other Next Normal guests, Ai-jen Poo. Ai-jen is the co-founder and Executive Director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, a leading non-profit dedicated to bringing dignity to workers in the “care economy.” In this episode, Ai-jen reflects on experiences in her own life that inspire her work to ensure “every worker in care economy earns a living wage with real economic security and opportunity.” She discusses the “invisible economy” that has served as a lifeline during the pandemic and connects care workers’ challenges to obstacles faced by other largely unseen and under-appreciated workers globally. As we strive to re-imagine the future of our economic system, Ai-jen suggests that the world turn its attention to the “original gig economy workers”— domestic workers.
45 minutes | Aug 20, 2021
“The Most Consequential Decade in Humanity’s History” with Kumi Naidoo
This inspiring, must-listen new episode of Next Normal highlights the visionary thinking of South African leader, Kumi Naidoo. Naidoo is a life-long campaigner for human rights, social justice, and our environment – all issues that intersect with our global economic system. In his conversation with Amit, Kumi paints a compelling portrait of his early work as an anti-apartheid activist and describes how that activism still guides his work today. He tells Amit why he thinks the worst disease the world presently faces is not COVID-19 but “affluenza,” and he offers an urgent call-to-action for systemic change as we enter “the most consequential decade in humanity’s history.”
38 minutes | Jun 23, 2021
Beyond Economic Growth: Prioritizing Well-Being of People and Planet with Hans Stegeman
In this newest edition of Next Normal, Hans Stegeman offers Amit captivating insight into his vision of a global economic system that centers the well-being of people and planet. As Chief Investment Strategist at Triodos Investment Management, Stegeman guards the central role of positive impact and sustainability in everything his firm does. In this conversation, he highlights his prediction about “the biggest investment conversation” in the coming years and reveals to Amit the specific areas where he sees the greatest global traction for re-imagined capitalism. Stegeman is convinced that an economic system better aligned with the natural world will also be a happier, healthier system for all people: “One part of a sustainable future is also a more relaxed society.”
43 minutes | May 27, 2021
Changing Narratives and Changing the World with Holly Gordon
In this compelling seventh episode, we explore an increasingly vital pathway toward our “next normal”: narrative change. Amit is joined by Holly Gordon, the Chief Impact Officer at Participant Media. Participant is the leading media company dedicated to creating entertainment that inspires audiences to engage in positive social change, known for films like Spotlight, An Inconvenient Truth, and Judas and the Black Messiah. Holly discusses the way that journalism first opened her eyes to the idea that she could “tell stories to close gaps of understanding.” In this episode, she describes the “dandelion effect” of powerful storytelling and the way that new narratives can unlock a sense of purpose among would-be change-makers. “Great stories can transform people from someone who is in their seat to someone who is in the street,” she says.
37 minutes | Mar 16, 2021
Building a Regenerative Global Corporation with Marcelo Behar
For our first episode of 2021, Amit welcomes one of the leading corporate pioneers charting the path toward the “next normal” in our global economic system. Marcelo Behar is Vice President of Sustainability and Group Affairs for the Brazilian cosmetics giant, Natura & Co. In this episode, Marcelo recounts the early origins of Natura & Co.’s environmental focus, describes the company’s new “Commitment to Life” sustainability vision, and offers a basic blueprint for other global corporations seeking to make an impact. Decisive action and new approaches put Marcelo and his team right at the center of the “next normal” conversation.
38 minutes | Dec 22, 2020
Lessons from the Thunderbird with Carol Anne Hilton
In this riveting new episode of Next Normal, Amit and his guest, Carol Anne Hilton, explore the ways that an indigenous worldview can inform a re-imagined and re-designed economic system. Carol Anne is a recognized First Nations business leader and the founder of the Indigenomics Institute. In this conversation, she explains how indigenous people and global minorities have been excluded from shaping society’s dominant understanding of “money, meaning, and metrics.” Carol Anne describes how an indigenous perspective guides her five fundamental directives for a new economy, and she recounts a powerful fable – the tale of the Thunderbird and the two-headed serpent – to reveal a fresh way of seeing the most vexing challenges of our time.
45 minutes | Oct 28, 2020
A Capitalism Insider Calling for Change with Mike Kubzansky
For this fourth episode of Next Normal, Amit is joined by a leading voice in the push toward a new economy, Mike Kubzansky. Mike is the CEO of Omidyar Network, a social change venture established by Pam and Pierre Omidyar, the founder of eBay. With that deep heritage in the tech world, Mike and his team are positioned as insiders in the world of markets and capitalism: “We are fundamentally capitalists, who do want to re-imagine capitalism.” In this episode, Mike guides us through the five pillars of change required to build a new economy.
36 minutes | Aug 31, 2020
Systemic Inequality in Capitalism with Rodney Foxworth
For the third edition of Next Normal, Amit guides a powerful and thought-provoking conversation with Rodney Foxworth, a community empowerment advocate and the CEO of Common Future. In this episode full of global implications, Rodney describes the ways that “we’ve designed inequality into the [capitalist] system.” Rodney and Amit dissect the complex intersections of race, economics, justice, and the American Dream in a context that is relevant to countries around the world.
43 minutes | Jul 17, 2020
A World on Fire with Rebecca Henderson
On this second edition of Next Normal, Amit is joined by Harvard Business School luminary Rebecca Henderson, author of the newly released Reimagining Capitalism in a World on Fire. Rebecca describes the structures – and the human emotions – that reinforce a version of capitalism that is “not delivering as it should,” and she details her vision for capitalism’s more inclusive, more sustainable potential. Together, Amit and Rebecca explore the urgent action needed to move toward that vision – and the ways that the COVID pandemic and fresh demands for racial justice are impacting the effort.
32 minutes | Jun 5, 2020
On our inaugural episode, Amit welcomes the “Godfather of Sustainability,” John Elkington. Together, they explore the broad ripple effects of the coronavirus pandemic, which John describes as a “global x-ray” of the world’s inequities. Then, they delve into John’s revolutionary vision of “regenerative capitalism” and the ‘recall’ of his famous “triple bottom line” concept. John describes how regular people can help drive progress – and names the global leaders whom, he believes, are moving us closer to a transformed future.
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