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In this episode, Celia shares a tough “never thought I’d” of her own: that she was an abused child. Celia talks about the long journey to accept that she was abused and not blame herself, and how her experience has changed the way she parents. Jodie and Celia talk about how sharing your pain can help other people reconcile their own. Also – Oprah’s soul smells like sugar cookies.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia are joined by Frank Meeink, a former white supremacist skinhead who is now a civil rights activist. Frank tells his story, giving insight into how an abused, neglected kid will look for acceptance anywhere – even within a hate group. And then, through becoming close with a Jewish man who was kind to him, he began to let go of his misguided beliefs. Jodie, Celia, and Frank discuss the importance of sobriety, self-confidence, and being of service.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia are joined by Christy Carlson Romano this week! And what a week it is – Christy has two young kids, just moved states, is sober, and is really feeling the stress of parenthood. They discuss the strange feeling of loving your kids more than anything but also acknowledging that parenting can really suck. And they dig into the hard stuff – what they wish was different, the impossible mom guilt, and lack of sex drive post-kids. Moral of the story? Talk about everything! Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

This week, Jodie and Celia talk to divorce attorney Aaron Abramowitz! Both having gone through divorce themselves, the ladies have a very frank conversation with Aaron about the realities of going through one of the hardest things a person can go through (especially when there are kids involved). Aaron answers questions from listeners, and Jodie and Celia give advice based on their own experiences.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com*The statements provided in this podcast are for informational purposes and should not be construed as legal advice. 

Jodie and Celia talk about how Halloween brought up a sticky parenting moment this year: how to let teenage girls express body confidence while also drawing a line on clothing that is too revealing for their age. They discuss sexual stigmas, double standards, and sex positivity – and how to talk about those things with their daughters. Jodie shares a parenting fail that she was feeling particularly guilty about…until Celia shares a story that makes Jodie feel MUCH better. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Welcome to another week of NTIST! Jodie and Celia discuss effectively canceling Thanksgiving this year (and being OK with it) and what Thanksgiving was like for them growing up (Celia has some stories). Plus, a stalker-y voicemail from Celia’s mom and unsolicited cameos from both the ladies’ animals.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia discuss how having a sarcastic, jokey relationship with their kids can lead to nobody knowing where the line is (and disapproving looks from strangers at the store). They weigh the positives and negatives of that type of relationship, and Celia shares how it has been taken too far recently by her oldest daughter. Plus, the customary talk about butts, Jodie mishearing Celia to inappropriate results, and a few updates about Celia’s totally normal, not crazy at all mother. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia welcome special guest Cat Deeley to the podcast this week! Cat joins the ladies all the way from London, where – guess what? It’s still hard to be a parent! Especially amidst a global pandemic. Cat’s young son recently asked her about death for the first time, so the ladies discuss how they handle such a difficult topic as parents. Don’t worry, they somehow manage to make existential dread funny. And of course, they discuss So You Think You Can Dance, and Celia shares a dance horror story of her own (because of course).  Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia are joined by James Harris (Million Dollar Listing), who is also a parent of two daughters. The three exhausted parents commiserate about the rampant misbehavior occurring during homeschooling, how much more quality time they have with their daughters (though it often descends into chaos), and the unique situation of their kids being able to Google their past misdeeds.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

On this week’s episode, the tables are turned and the kids catch Jodie and Celia engaging in bad behavior. Smoking, name-calling – they come clean about it all. Then they discuss how to deal with differing politics among parents when the kids could possibly be alienated by it, and how to deal with differing politics in ALL relationships. Spoiler alert: it’s not easy. Neither is Celia and her boyfriend getting stuck in the middle of the desert. Lastly, get ready to here Jodie and Celia say the “c-word” many, many times. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

This week, Jodie and Celia are joined by The Lincoln Project co-founder Reed Galen! Reed, a former Republican and current Independent, talks about the mission of his political action committee: preventing the reelection of Donald Trump as president. They discuss intelligently fighting fire with fire, the most troubling aspects of Trump’s presidency, the effect of Covid-19 on Trump's image, and why it’s important that you vote in this election (and how to do it!).Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia are back for Season 3 of Never Thought I’d Say This! They share some of their recent “never thought I’d” moments and catch listeners up on what they’ve been up to since last season – Jodie’s household grew by two (a boyfriend and a dog!), Celia accidentally showed up on Lulu’s class Zoom topless, and a new parenting tactic was discovered: being intentionally embarrassing. Plus, Little Murray gets a new friend. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

In the final episode of Season 2, Jodie and Celia are joined by their most fabulous guests yet – their daughters, Zoie and Harper! In this very special episode, Jodie and Celia’s oldest daughters finally get a chance to air their grievances and share their own “never thought I’d say this” moments – about their moms. They’re entering their teenage years, so there are A LOT. The four ladies have an honest conversation about their relationship dynamics and end the episode with more understanding of one another (but still a lot of eye rolls).Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia talk to the amazing Lauryn Whitney, creator of the impactful viral video “Ask Yourself.” Lauryn, the Black mother of a Black boy, asks people to consider why they think of her child, and of all Black boys and men, as a threat. She shares the wisdom of her experience with Jodie and Celia, and the result is a frank, emotional discussion about race and racism in the United States. Lauryn talks about how her child and other Black children are affected by institutional racism and poses helpful questions for non-Black listeners to ask themselves about how they might be upholding racist ideals. Lauryn also shares a hilarious “never thought I’d say this” moment in which her son learned a big lesson about human anatomy, and Jodie gives us an inappropriate anatomy lesson of her own. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia kick off the episode with their most recent parenting fails, which involve the kids saying some VERY profane things (and for proof, Harper makes a cameo on the podcast to say it to all of you). And in case you haven’t noticed, their oldest daughters have entered the teen years. Jodie and Celia talk about learning how to accept that their daughters don’t necessarily want to listen to their advice right now, and will have to make their own mistakes as they become the people they’re growing up to be. And that just because they’re moms doesn’t mean that their feelings don’t get hurt by their kids. And speaking of moms, Celia leaves us with two pearls of wisdom from her own mother that might take a lifetime of reflection to understand…Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Homeschooling is over, summer is here, and Jodie and Celia are breathing a sigh of relief! Sort of. The kids are TikTock-ing, not doing their chores, and asking Celia about her sex life. Jodie and Celia are also dealing with an increasing number of internet trolls, and they discuss the ways in which politics is a parenting issue. Plus, Celia tells a couple new stories about her mom, as a treat. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

This week Jodie and Celia are joined by actress and mom Marla Sokoloff! They talk about the stresses of parenting during a pandemic and discuss the Zen and recovery and therapy wisdom they’re keeping in mind to help themselves and their kids deal with these scary times. Plus, they all swap stories of child vomit incidents (don’t say we didn’t warn you). Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

In a classic NTIST episode, Jodie goes to Facebook jail, the kids get sneaky on TikTok and play “hide the giant hairball,” Lulu accidentally finds her way into saying another sexually inappropriate phrase, and the ladies talk about their Zoom game night (which obviously went off the rails). Plus, there’s an amusing amount of conversation about corn. Thanks, Dustin.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

This week, Jodie and Celia are joined by the fabulous Danielle Fishel! They discuss the overwhelming amount of parenting information out there, and how it can cause so much self-doubt. Danielle shares the traumatic story of her son’s first weeks of life – how not googling or seeking outside information about his medical condition was the key to getting through it, and how she managed to stay calm and be her son’s advocate throughout the experience. They also talk about quarantine snacks, sibling rivalry, and a listener-submitted craptastic parenting moment for the books.Merch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com

Jodie and Celia are joined this week by husband and wife duo Isaiah Johnson and Stacie Orrico! They talk about the climate of racial injustice in the United States, how to have hard conversations about race, and for Stacie and Isaiah, how to navigate interracial relationships and parenthood. Plus, they discuss Hamilton, weird penises, Jodie’s new nickname, and Celia’s at-home waxing journey. NOTE: stick around until the very end for a questionable request from Jodie….https://linktr.ee/nationalresourceslistMerch: https://unsweetined.com/Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythisFacebook: @neverthoughtidsaythisEmail: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com