33 minutes | May 5, 2021

S5E6: Black Enough? Woke Enough?

Welcome to the sixth episode of our fifth season of Race, Culture & Beyond: A Naked Conversations Podcast! In today’s episode, we will be talking a little bit about the Derek Chauvin trial and the bitter-sweet feeling over it. Even though the verdict leaves us with relief and sweet emotion, the fact that we have so much more work to do regarding racism is the bitter part of it.  We will also be discussing what it is like to have a “Black card” and how easily it can feel like we’re losing it if we don’t fit the “expectations.” Erica speaks about hilarious experiences, like trying to join a Facebook group for Black women and actually having to ask her husband and friends about the correct answers to be able to be a part of the group. As for Sage, does she want to be “woke?” Is she?  But what about liking Black music and influence from growing up in Philly?  We also share the definition of woke, and how it isn’t precisely a term that white people can be entitled to: Stay woke became a watchword in parts of the black community for those who were self-aware, questioning the dominant paradigm and striving for something better. But stay woke and woke became part of a wider discussion in 2014, immediately following the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. The word woke became entwined with the Black Lives Matter movement; instead of just being a word that signaled awareness of injustice or racial tension, it became a word of action. Activists were woke and called on others to stay woke. Merriam-Webster dictionary    Thank you for listening to the show. It is such an honor to have these conversations with you. They are necessary and needed, and we are here to do the work.  For access to ALL the resources mentioned, sign up for the “resource roundup” at sagebhobbs.com/nc-podcast.  The (short & awesome) newsletter will also keep you in the loop on the latest episodes, and other opportunities.    Let’s connect: Like what you hear? Please subscribe to Naked Conversations on Apple Podcasts. Or Stitcher. Or Google Play. Or any of the following – Overcast, Blubbry, TuneIn Radio, Player.fm. For (much appreciated) gold stars: Leave a rating + review!  Just a few short words will help more folks find the show and be a part of this conversation.  Thank you!  Also, please send a DM on Instagram to @sagebhobbs or @ericayhoward to let us know what you love about the show, what topics you’d like to hear covered, or your dream interviewee.
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