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Last week we went to The Hague, Netherlands to have our Second Clingendael-Elcano Roundtable on EU affairs. The Netherlands and Spain are usually on opposite sides of the debates but with the exit of the UK there is now space to collaborate. This is a summary of our discussions under the Chatham House rule.

This podcast is an oral version of my latest article in The Monkey Cage blog of the Washington Post. It tries to explain the current situation in Catalonia and Spain for a foreign audience two years after the illegal referendum and the failed unilateral declaration of independence. Here the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/21/what-spains-elections-says-about-catalan-independence/