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This week the docs focus on the sub category of mass killers called “Family Annihilators”. These killers' crimes are defined as the act of murdering the entire family for a specific and narrow range of reasons. The aftermath of these crimes can leave a community reeling with shock and disbelief in the stark contrast of what are many times, perpetrators who are viewed as responsible parents and even outstanding members of the community. Often, these jarring crimes are associated with financial or emotional strain, mental health problems, or revenge. We touch on a few well known cases that are recent in the news as well as some more obscure examples. Enjoy and join us on Facebook or Discord to discuss. Ranker List of Family Annihilators Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/lanotsopod and use code LANOTSOPOD25 to get $25 off your first order by June 30, 2023. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Life got away from the docs this week, so they’re bringing you a re-release of one of their very first “Vintage Los Angeles” episodes. This episode is from 2019 and it is one of their favorites as it focuses on two fascinating characters that are integral to the history and development of Los Angeles. Dr. Scott covers founding father, Griffith J. Griffith, and his dirty little intimate partner violence secrets at the turn of the century, while Dr. Shiloh leads you through the history of the OG criminal profiler, Dr. J. Paul de River, and his involvement in some of Los Angeles’ most horrific crimes throughout the 1930's and 1940's. Mentions: Heritage Square Museum http://heritagesquare.org/ Deranged LA Crimes http://derangedlacrimes.com/ Steve Hodel's blog https://stevehodel.com/ John Brian King https://johnbrianking.com/ Die-Alogue podcast https://www.yellowtapetruecrime.com/diealoguepodcast You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Get free chicken nuggets for a year and 10% off your first box when you sign up today at butcherbox.com/LANSC and use code LANSC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The docs at L.A. Not So Confidential have covered sex crimes in a number of ways over the years: female sexual homicide, a wide spectrum of paraphilias as well as a three-part series on Internet sexual offending. However, we have not covered the basics of adults that commit sexual assaults against other adults. In this episode the docs lay that foundation of the various permutations of sexual assault before drilling down into the specific phenomenon and history of “date rape” or “acquaintance rape.” TW: Sexual assault, rape, use of substances to induce unconsciousness for purposes of sexual assault  Resource: Talking with teens about date rape Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/lanotsopod and use code LANOTSOPOD25 to get $25 off your first order by June 30, 2023. Terms and conditions apply. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the docs recount & review the Netflix docuseries, Sins of Our Mother. This series dives into the timeline of Lori Vallow's descent into the extremist religiosity and delusional thinking that cost many people their lives, including her children. The docs review the types of filicide and praise the show for the narrative led by the surviving family members. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s episode we explore the crimes against the deceased AND the living; The nefarious dealings of funeral homes and mortuaries. While the majority of funeral homes provide supportive services to individuals and families at their most vulnerable, there are some that use the opportunity for grift and crime. Body Horror, Necrophilia, Murder & Desecration of bodily remains are all discussed, so be prepared for a discussion of those that mishandle or deliberately mistreat human remains. TW: Body horror, necrophilia, murder, desecration of bodily remains For more information go to ForThePeople.com/LANSC. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On October 16, 1931, on a typical Friday night in the dry desert air of Phoenix Arizona, Winnie Ruth Judd went to her friends' bungalow for dinner and drinks. What happened next was an ever changing mystery told by the sole survivor through years of court cases and escapes from mental hospitals. Winnie, as the only survivor of the mysterious altercation fled to Los Angeles by train, carrying with her some of probably the most disturbing luggage contents in history. Join us for another vintage episode where we look back through history to unravel the conflicting motives that led to a gruesome murder. Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/lanotsopod and use code LANOTSOPOD25 to get $25 off your first order by June 30, 2023. Terms and conditions apply. Try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/LANSC and use code LANSC to get a 100% grass-fed chuck roast and a whole chicken FREE in your first box plus $20 off. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The true crime genre at times seems to be an endless stream of tragic victims’ stories. In this episode, the docs focus on the lesser known phenomenon of “Survivor Guilt”. The friends, family and peers that survive horrific situations, when their loved ones do not, are also subject to significant emotional distress. The docs review several recent cases that resulted in survivor guilt as well as provide you with an understanding of how the syndrome is diagnosed and treated. Surviving the Survivor YouTube channel You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This month we give our run down and review of the 2022 Netflix documentary, Don't Pick Up the Phone, which account the 10 year span of "hoax" calls in which a person pretending to be a police officer called up fast food managers and had them perform strip-searches on employees suspected in thefts. We discuss what sexual offense category this fits under and what psychological processes are at work with the people submitting to these outlandish requests by the caller. Our YouTube channel Pretend Podcast with Javier Leiva Surviving the Survivor YouTube channel You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bring your energy drinks and your pom poms, as we navigate our way through the world of youth sports and parents behaving badly at their children's games. We review several examples from a covert assault on the field to an infamous murder for hire plot and what the research says about parents who over-identify with their children's successes and failures. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/LANSC. Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/lanotsopod50 to get 50% off your first two orders when you use code LANOTSOPOD50 by February 28, 2023. Terms and conditions apply. CrimeCon UK: Get your ticket's here and use code CONFIDENTIAL for 10% off. What's Up Doc podcast You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1926 Los Angeles, no one was bigger than Sister Aimee Semple McPherson, megachurch and radio evangelist. But this remarkable woman went missing during a swim in the Pacific Ocean, only to "resurrect" five weeks later. We discuss the theories and aftermath of her disappearance and review the key issue with people who fake their own victimization. Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/lanotsopod50 to get 50% off your first two orders when you use code LANOTSOPOD50 by February 28, 2023. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Liar, Liar, pants on fire. Is pathological lying a symptom or a psychopathology all on it's own? Let's see what the research says in this first episode of 2023! Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/LANSC. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are pleased to bring you the season 2 premier of Santa Maybe, A Criminal "Finding My Boo." Our dear friend and L.A. Not So Confidential sound magician, Jason Usry, is the creative mind behind this true crime satire podcast that will make you love Christmas even more than you already do. If you haven't listened to season 1, you will want to after hearing how season 2 starts. How many of your favorite true crime podcasters can you hear in this episode? Dr. Whimsickle and Det. Strong are back! Please subscribe to Santa Maybe, A Criminal today! This season, try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for a conversation with Jamie Gehring, the author of the new memoir and true crime book, Madman in the Woods: Life Next Door to the Unabomber.  Jamie recounts a simple, yet wildly fulfilling life in the Montana wilderness with her family, as Ted Kaczynski plotted in a small cabin he built on a parcel of land purchased from her family. She offers a perspective into the Unabomber that only a small-town community neighbor could, with an incredible amount of her own research into Ted, his background, and de-evolution.  Find her book here: https://amzn.to/3PR0SFe Cancel your unnecessary subscriptions right now at ROCKETMONEY.COM/LANSC. This season, try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we bring you the strange tale of Dolly Oesterrich and her lover that she kept in her attic for years! It was a cozy arrangement until the day he came out of hiding to commit murder. Vintage book resource: Collins, Mary, et al. Los Angeles Murders. Edited by Craig Rice and Marie F. Rodell, Duell, Sloan, and Pearce, 1947. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are changing our tune... well, maybe changing our perspective to inform our tune. In this revisit of a previous topic (Episode 50 Police Pursuits), we discuss the damage of police pursuits more in-depth and bring you a few, specific stories of tragedy that unfortunately are only a drop in the bucket.  Many thanks to Pursuit Safety for their research and advocacy. We are going to speak with someone from their organization in our January Behind the Couch, so stay tuned for those details. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/LANSC and use code LANSC to get 10% off your first box and ground beef for the life of your membership. Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/LANOTSOPOD30 to get 30% off your first order when you use code LANOTSOPOD30 by December 31, 2022. Terms and conditions apply. Cancel your unnecessary subscriptions right now at ROCKETMONEY.COM/LANSC. God Pod Crimes Gone Viral pursuit episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9dEBMZFi7s You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This month we review Season 3, Episode 9 of Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix, which focuses on two stories of children being ripped away from their families by a parent. These are educated, once seemingly loving individuals who clearly plotted for elaborate schemes to disappear with their children. We venture to speculate on the psych issues that could be happening in these case- maybe we need to do a full episode on Parental Abduction int he future! This fall, try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to Scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Audio for this live show is less than optimal. Thank you for your understanding. Please enjoy this audio from our live presentation at the 2022 True Crime Podcast Festival. We teamed up with Women & Crime to discuss the Sherri Papini case in depth. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/LANSC and use code LANSC to get Free Ribeyes for a Year plus $10 off. Go to BABBEL.com/LANOTSO for up to 55% off your subscription. Babbel—Language for life. This fall, try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to Scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This case occurred in 1937 Los Angeles and was one of the most haunting & horrific crimes to occur since the murder of little Marion Parker a decade earlier. The Babes of Inglewood were three little girls who went missing in broad daylight while playing at the community park. However, this case is very likely also about one of the the earliest wrongful convictions of a high-profile crime. Go to BABBEL.com/LANOTSO for up to 55% off your subscription. Babbel—Language for life. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The doctors get into the psychology behind the behavior of hoarding and how it can rise to criminal thinking & activity. SPONSORED BY Go to BABBEL.com/LANOTSO for up to 55% off your subscription. Babbel—Language for life.  Go to MagicMind.co/LA and join a community of go-getters. Use the discount code LA20 to get 40% off your first subscription or 20% off your first one-time purchase. The 40% off code only lasts 10 days.  Visit get.misfitsmarket.com/LANOTSOPOD30 to get 30% off your first order when you use code LANOTSOPOD30 by December 31, 2022. Terms and conditions apply. This fall, try luxury home fragrance trusted by the pros by going to store.scentair.com and using promo code LANOTSOPOD for 25% off your first order. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This month, Dr. Scott & Dr. Shiloh review the docuseries 11 Minutes, a victim-driven perspective on the mass shooting event that took place 5 years ago at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival. 11 Minutes Thanks again Vessi! Click the link vessi.com and use our code: NOTSOCONFIDENTIAL for 15% off your entire order! Free shipping to CA, US, AU,JP, TW, KR, SGP Go to BABBEL.com/LANOTSO for up to 55% off your subscription. Babbel—Language for life. You can find all of our resources on our website: https://www.la-not-so-confidential.com/  L.A. Not So Confidential is proud to be part of the Crawlspace Media Network. http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices