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The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

173 Episodes

49 minutes | Mar 27, 2023
173: Dr. Terry Wahls - Improving Progressive Multiple Sclerosis Outcomes Using Nutrition and Lifestyle Changes
Dr. Terry Wahls was diagnosed with secondary progressive Multiple Sclerosis (MS) diagnosis in 2007.   She was bedridden and could barely walk and sitting up was a challenge for her.   As a medical doctor, she dove into aggressive treatment options to try to beat her disease and symptoms, but unfortunately, they didn’t find much relief.   She also dealt with debilitating pain that made it hard for her to work and function normally.   Instead of succumbing to MS, Dr. Wahls vowed to do everything she could to alleviate the awful symptoms she was dealing with.   It led her down a path of discovering nutritional and lifestyle therapies that could offer real relief.   They were so effective that she became active again, both walking and cycling, and she returned to living a normal life, free from being wheelchair-bound, with a huge increase in her quality of life.   She went on to develop The Wahls Protocol and led several research studies, including eight clinical trials, that proved just how effective these dietary changes are in treating progressive MS.   In this episode with Dr. Anthony Gustin, you’ll hear about Dr. Wahls’ inspiring and incredible health journey, how nutrition can drastically impact autoimmune conditions, and the diets that can help these conditions.   You’ll also hear her thoughts on using the carnivore diet for autoimmune conditions, the two nutrient-dense foods she recommends eating whether you’re sick or not, and the spiritual component of healing and health.   Dr. Wahl also shares the symptoms and conditions that may be a red flag for future autoimmune issues, what you can do to treat those before they become worse, and the mindset she adopted to help herself and her family get through the most challenging parts of her health journey.   Dr. Terry Wahls is a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine. She teaches internal medicine residents in their primary care clinics and does clinical research.   Dr. Wahls has been published in over 60 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts, posters, and papers, and her work has been cited thousands of times.   She’s also on her eighth clinic trial, working hard to show that dietary and lifestyle interventions are effective treatment options for people suffering from autoimmune conditions.   In this episode, you’ll learn about the following topics: Dr. Terry Wahls’ incredible health journey and how she went from barely being able to walk or sit up to being active again and living a high quality of life despite being diagnosed with secondary progressive MS Dr. Wahls’ aha moment in her healing health journey and how she started researching alternative treatment options The diets being studied for progressive MS treatments and which ones have shown the most promising results The nutrients she focused on adding to her diet to start repairing her mitochondrial health Is the carnivore diet a good option for people with autoimmune conditions like MS? Is there only one diet or more than one that works at increasing the longevity and quality of life in MS patients? Two nutrient-dense foods Dr. Wahls included in her diet to improve her MS outcomes Other conditions that may benefit from The Wahls Protocol The other lifestyle factors Dr. Wahls addressed aside from nutrition to improve her condition and quality of life The spiritual component to better health and healing What keeps Dr. Wahls going now that she’s seen incredible improvements in her condition   Resources mentioned: Dr. Terry Wahls’ website Dr. Terry Wahls’ Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Where you can donate to help support Dr. Wahls’ incredible research Dr. Wahls’ book, The Wahls Protocol
48 minutes | Mar 20, 2023
172: Dr. Will Cole - Addressing Shameflammation and Stored Trauma to Optimize Health
Dr. Will Cole, a leading functional medicine expert and best-selling author, discusses a term he came up with, shameflammation, and dives into what that is and why it could be an underlying health issue for many people, including healthy patients.   Dr. Cole also addresses the connection between mental and physical health, stored traumas, the difference between shame and guilt, and more in this episode.   You’ll also hear about the free interventions Dr. Cole recommends using to address these issues and more about his latest book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel.   Dr. Will Cole is a leading functional medicine expert who has been in practice for over 13 years.    He uses telehealth practices to help patients all over the world.   Dr. Cole has also written four books, hosts a podcast called The Art of Being Well, and has been recognized as one of the top 50 functional and integrative doctors nationwide.    In this episode, you’ll hear more about: Understanding the connection between mental and physical health  Dr. Will Cole’s term “shameflammation” and how shame impacts our health The difference between experiencing shame versus guilt Where does shameflammation come from? How stress and trauma are stored in the body and what can be done about it Interventions to improve both physical and mental health and resolve shameflammation Why aren’t these free interventions being prescribed by traditional doctors? Is it because there’s no money to be made from them? How healthy habits could be making your health worse and what you can do to fix this What Dr. Cole’s personal journey looks like Working to address intergenerational trauma Dr. Cole’s experience with psychedelics for treating trauma and other alternative treatment options Information on his latest book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel   Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Will Cole’s website Dr. Cole’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Dr. Cole’s latest book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel The Body Keeps the Score, by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. Realms of Human Consciousness: Observations from LSD Research, by Stanislav Grof
62 minutes | Mar 13, 2023
171: Natalie Kovarik & Tara Vander Dussen - Using Regenerative Ag Practices in Different Regions, The Future of Regenerative Ag, Addressing Climate Change, and More
Fifth-generation dairy farmer Tara Vander Dussen and former pharmacist turned rancher Natalie Kovarik are two amazing women in the regenerative agriculture space.   They’re challenging the notion that bigger is bad and smaller is better in farming, and they’re highlighting how regenerative agriculture practices can’t be a one size fits all approach and must be adjusted based on the region the farm resides in.   As Tara and Natalie share in this episode, since they live in drastically different regions, their regenerative ag practices differ in some ways, and so do their cows, which you’ll hear all about.   Despite the differences, they’re both focused on running sustainable farms that help mitigate climate change and educating people on what that looks like.   In this episode, you’ll learn about Natalie and Tara’s unique backgrounds, their struggles on their farms, how their cattle help the environment, and why they’re so passionate about what they do.   You’ll also discover the current state and future projections for regenerative agriculture, why so many companies are already greenwashing in the space, what can be done about it, and where this powerful duo gets their own food.   Here’s a quick breakdown of some of the topics they get into with Dr. Anthony Gustin: Tara and Natalie share their backgrounds and how they found themselves in the regenerative agriculture space The current state of regenerative ag and how many companies are greenwashing and turning the term into a buzzword The spectrum of regenerative ag and why some practices work for some ranchers but won’t work for others The struggles Natalie and Tara have personally faced on their farms They also share their thoughts on scaling regenerative agriculture The difference between having a large versus a small regenerative ag herd Tara and Natalie also discuss their farm sizes and how big their operations are Tara shares her thoughts on consuming raw dairy How cattle bring value to our food system Can a commercial model work for poultry or pork to make it more sustainable? One possible solution to mitigate the effects of climate change The weird censorship happening on social media against beef and its true impact on climate change Where Tara and Natalie find the motivation to do the work they do What we need to do and change moving forward to make an impact on a larger scale Where Tara and Natalie get most of the foods they eat   Resources mentioned in this episode: Natalie Kovarik’s website Natalie’s Instagram Tara Vander Dussen’s website Tara’s Instagram Natalie and Tara’s podcast Discover Ag Discover Ag’s Instagram The Natural State Podcast Episode 095: Will Harris - Regenerative Agriculture and Why More Farms Should Switch to this Eco-Friendly Model The Meat Mafia Podcast Wendell Berry's book, The Pleasures of Eating The Holy Earth: The Birth of a New Land Ethic, by Liberty Hyde Bailey, Wendell Berry, and John Linstrom
55 minutes | Mar 6, 2023
170: Charley Cummings - Fixing a Local Food System by Connecting Farmers with Consumers
Charley Cummings started his business Walden Local as a way to connect farmers with consumers. He also worked to address and fix the issues in the entire food supply system in his local New England area, and now it proudly serves 30,000 families there.   His business tackles everything from raising and processing animals to hand delivering the meat to consumers.   In this podcast episode, you’ll hear all about what led Charley to start this business, the problems he’s addressing, the obstacles he faced, and so much more.   On top of building Walden Local, Charley also created Walden Mutual, which is a bank that supports the local economy and, more specifically, the local farming community he works with.   You’ll not only hear about how Charley started Walden Mutual in this episode, but you’ll also learn about the true impact of your bank deposit dollars — you’ll be surprised by this one — and why you should pay more attention to where your money goes.   Here’s a look at some of the topics Charley and Dr. Anthony Gustin discuss: Charley’s story and how he found himself in this local agricultural movement space Charley’s experience that made him realize something more needed to be done to connect consumers with local farmers What Charley’s business Walden Local does The pivotal point that shifted Charley’s thinking on addressing global environmental issues and how he still uses this thought process today How Charley wanted to play a role in tackling environmental issues Why there’s no silver bullet to climate change and what can be done instead The problems Charley initially set out to solve and what that looks like today How Charley addressed issues like moving massive quantities of ground beef Why Charley doesn’t ship his meat and the delivery approach he uses instead Some of the challenges farmers in his area faced and what he did to help people overcome them What happens to your money when you deposit it in a traditional bank How to change where your deposit dollars go and why you’d want to do that    Resources mentioned in this episode: Charley Cummings’ Walden Local website Charley’s Walden Local Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook The bank Charley started - Walden Mutual Charley’s email - Charley@WaldenMutual.com
61 minutes | Feb 27, 2023
169: Dr. Zach Bush - Combating Environmental Toxins, Glyphosate Exposure, Connecting With Food and Nature, Uncovering Your Purpose, and More
Dr. Zach Bush is a well-known physician specializing in internal medicine, endocrinology, and hospice care and a world-renowned educator and thought leader on topics like how the microbiome relates to health, disease, and our food systems.   Dr. Bush also founded a non-profit, Farmer’s Footprint, which connects farmers with consumers, and a supplement company Intelligence of Nature, or ION.   In this episode, Dr. Bush and Dr. Anthony Gustin discuss how prevalent glyphosate exposure is, whether it’s possible to avoid environmental toxins, and if eating organic foods can protect you from these harmful chemicals.   Dr. Bush and Dr. Gustin also chat about spirituality topics like how to find your purpose and how to regain connection with our food system, along with regenerative agriculture and Dr. Bush’s mostly plant-based eating approach.   If you’re unfamiliar with Dr. Zach Bush, you’ll hear about his incredible background and how he went from majoring in engineering in college to becoming a doctor and eventually getting out of a broken healthcare system.   Dr. Bush also runs an eight-week transformative health course, which he also chats about in this episode, and dives into his extensive knowledge on soil health, how polluted our waters have become, building immunity while traveling, and what it takes to improve the gut/brain health connection.   Here’s a breakdown of some of the topics in this episode: How Dr. Zach Bush went from being an engineering major in college to becoming a doctor and doing what he does today How Dr. Bush was able to break through the noise and get out of a troubled healthcare system How Dr. Bush discovered his purpose in life and his suggestions for finding yours  What Dr. Bush does to maintain his health, mindset, purpose, and more How Dr. Bush balances and supports his health in a toxic environment and while traveling More about his company, ION health, which stands for Intelligence of Nature, and how it helps people How glyphosate is everywhere, how it’s detrimental to our health, and what can be done about it Does glyphosate really have a half-life? Why you may have more glyphosate exposure than you realize and what can be done about it What you can do to protect yourself while traveling Dr. Bush also shares his thoughts on regenerative agriculture and why he chooses to eat mostly plant-based   Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Zach Bush’s website Dr. Bush’s Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube channel Dr. Zach Bush’s Intelligence of Nature (ION) supplement line Dr. Bush’s eight-week course The Journey of Intrinsic Health Dr. Bush’s Farmer’s Footprint website Dr. Bush’s Farmer’s Footprint Australian website The Natural State Podcast Episode 158: Dr. Stephan van Vliet - Comparing the Nutrient Density of Grass-Fed vs. Grain-Fed Meat  
62 minutes | Feb 13, 2023
167: Calley Means - Fixing a Broken Healthcare and Food System When There’s So Much Funding to Keep People Chronically Ill
Entrepreneur and soon-to-be author Calley Means’ recent Twitter post exposed the racist agenda of Coca-Cola and racked up a whopping 12 million views,  13,000 retweets, and close to 60,000 likes in just one month.   And that’s just one tiny piece of Calley’s incredible journey to exposing the problems of our current healthcare and food system.   But instead of just complaining and highlighting the issues, Calley’s actively working on a solution through his latest company, TrueMed, which aims to use food and exercise as medicine instead of relying on pharmaceuticals that actually make things worse.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll learn more about his latest company, along with Calley’s first-hand experience seeing big pharma and food companies funneling money to professors, universities, and research studies on nutrition to skew the data in their favor. You’ll also hear about how companies like Coca-Cola continue to target low-income families through food stamp programs and how they lobby to avoid having a sugar tax placed on their products.   Calley also discusses how our current system has been making people with chronic diseases worse off instead of better, why weight loss drugs are not the answer, especially for obese kids, and what can be done to turn things around.   Calley also shares his personal experience and how he found himself in this space, what he believes the root causes of chronic diseases are based on science and research, and more about his company TrueMed.   Here’s a look at what Calley and Dr. Anthony Gustin discuss in this episode: Calley’s backstory and why he started caring about health and fixing the healthcare system How it’s become normalized for people to be chronically sick and taking a handful of prescriptions each day, and what that stems from How the food system is designed to be efficient at making food cheap and addicting Calley’s Twitter post that went viral and shed light on how food companies are funding research on nutrition and skewing the results in their favor The two biggest lobbying spenders and why this is a massive problem for our healthcare system How our chronic disease management process is actually causing diseases to go up and get worse instead of making things better What can be done to fix our healthcare system? Will our healthcare system eventually work itself out? What can be done to address rising mental health issues? How the scientific community has let Americans down and what can be done about it Calley shares his thoughts on treating obese kids with prescription drugs and shots The problem with weight loss drugs and why this is a huge issue The root causes of chronic diseases and how it’s preventable Calley’s latest business, TrueMed, and the problems it’s actively working to solve   Mentioned in this episode: Calley Mean’s website Calley Mean’s Twitter and Instagram Calley’s website for TrueMed Justin Mares’ Twitter and weekly newsletter Levels Health Brain Energy: A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD, and More by Dr. Christopher M. Palmer
69 minutes | Feb 1, 2023
166: Dr. Bill Schindler - Learning How To Eat Like a Human
Dr. Anthony Gustin chats with Dr. Bill Schindler, an anthropologist, professor, chef of the Modern Stone Age Kitchen, and author of Eat Like a Human.   Dr. Schindler has dedicated his career to researching ancient humans and spending time with indigenous hunter-gatherer tribes to learn how to optimize our modern-day diets.   Even though our basic nutritional requirements have stayed the same for the last 3,000 years, we’ve lost our ability to eat instinctively and listen to our senses. Just think about it: we’re the only species on the planet that needs help learning what to eat, how much to eat, etc.   So Dr. Schindler shares his ideas about how to follow the instinctual practices our early ancestors used to extract the most nutrition from our diets and return to our natural states of health.   In this episode, you’ll discover: Why we’re the only species that intellectualizes eating the right foods What it means to be a fully-nourished human How to approach vegetables in your diet with intention Which foods Dr. Schindler completely removed from his diet to reverse damage and transform his life What type of bread Dr. Schindler considers the “safest” to eat  The importance of eating animal fats and organ meats (in moderation)  How grocery stores and modern food manufacturing destroyed our natural food instincts Why the emotional satisfaction, social connections, and cultural ties to our food are just as “nutritious” for our bodies as healthy foods   Tune in to tap into the science of our evolution through nutrition now! Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Bill Schindler’s Instagram Dr. Schindler’s Twitter  Dr. Schindler’s book - Eat Like a Human Dr. Schindler’s website  Dr. Schindler’s restaurant - Modern Stone Age Kitchen Dr. Schindler’s nonprofit - Eastern Shore Food Lab Fire: The Spark That Ignited Human Evolution by Frances D. Burton
62 minutes | Jan 19, 2023
165: Roy Krebs - Optimizing Neurotransmitters To Level Up Your Brain
Dr. Anthony Gustin chats with Roy Krebs, founder and CEO of Natural Stacks, to discuss the natural state of our brain’s four major neurotransmitters: dopamine, serotonin, GABA, and acetylcholine.   After studying these chemical messengers for over 10 years, Roy explains how our bodies are genetically predisposed to create one neurotransmitter more efficiently than the others. Unfortunately, a dominance in one neurotransmitter then creates a deficiency in the rest.   Neurotransmitter deficiencies may cause everything from brain fog, procrastination, and anxiety to low libido and even weight gain.    So Roy says the secret to better brain health and performance is learning how to balance and optimize our neurotransmitters naturally.    You’ll hear his best tips on how to do that with the right environment and supplements (and what to avoid).   In this episode, you’ll discover: What it feels like to be high or low in each neurotransmitter  How your genetics and environment (diet, sleep, sunshine exposure, etc.) affect your neurotransmitter levels How to find your dominant neurotransmitters with a simple True/False online test How to create an optimal balance of neurotransmitters naturally Which essential nutrients for brain health most people need more of What inspired Roy to found Natural Stacks How to take the right supplements to match your activity, whether you’re working out, meditating, or crushing your day at the office Which supplements almost act like drugs and mess with the natural function of your brain How to judge supplements for brain support in a mostly unregulated industry   Mentioned in This Episode  Roy Kreb’s Natural Stacks - use code GUSTIN for 25% off Roy Kreb’s Twitter The Edge Effect by Eric R. Braverman The Braverman test
68 minutes | Jan 9, 2023
164: Dr. Molly Maloof - Healing Trauma and Stress with Social Bonds, Meditation, and Wearable Tech
Dr. Anthony Gustin welcomes back Dr. Molly Maloof, an entrepreneur, Stanford professor, and biohacker for an information-packed episode.    You’ll hear how the pandemic taught Dr. Molly that social bonds and community are just as vital to our health as good nutrition, sleep, and exercise. She also discusses the quantified self, how to heal past trauma to prevent and reverse metabolic disease, and touches on her research with psychedelic therapies.   Dr. Molly then ventures into her new fascination with emerging sex therapy protocols, an overlooked area that hasn’t been innovated in 50 years. She highlights the recent epidemic of sexual trauma and sexual dysfunction plaguing society, and how we can learn to heal through meditation and the reprogramming of our thoughts and memories (in what she calls the “next wave of psychiatry”).   As a practicing physician and healthcare reform lobbyist, Dr. Molly also touches on how to create a community of people who advocate for their wellbeing in a broken healthcare system designed to keep us sick for profit.   In this episode, you’ll hear about: How Dr. Molly assesses her patient’s social and support networks along with their general health The benefits of creating stronger social ties and being more engaged in your community  Why the next frontier of optimizing health is tackling stress and improving mental, emotional, and spiritual health How stress manifests itself in our physiology and sexual dysfunction, especially for women, and the sexual trauma epidemic plaguing the nation  Studying implicit vs. explicit memories and how we can change our brain’s “programming” to lessen the reactivity and negativity triggered by past trauma, PTSD, childhood experiences, etc. Meeting our pain with compassion  Connecting to a higher power via meditation and spiritual coaching in the absence of formal religion Psychedelic therapies and regenerative medicine like NAD Why EMDR (eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) might help people who haven’t had luck with talk therapy   Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Molly Maloof’s website where you can find her online course based on the one she teaches at Stanford and preorder her new book, The Spark Factor Dr. Maloof’s Instagram: @drmolly.co Natural Action Water Revitalization Polar H10 Hanu Oura Ring EMDR Mindlight Myneurva remote neurofeedback therapy Sue Carter, who’s studied the endocrinology of love and social bonds for over 30 years Helen Fisher, the most cited woman on love
95 minutes | Dec 9, 2022
163: Chris Kresser - Addressing Nutrient Deficiencies in Healthy Populations, The Most Nutrient Dense Foods, Pleiotropic Interventions, and More
New York Times best-selling author, clinician, Functional Medicine educator, and pioneer in the natural health space, Chris Kresser, discusses how his health views have evolved over 15 years and what he’s currently focused on.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll hear about how Chris discovered that many of his healthy patients who did everything right health-wise still ended up with nutrient deficiencies, what that looks like, and what the most nutrient dense foods are, both plant and meat-based.   Chris also discusses whether we should be eating plant foods, the pleiotropic interventions he recommends, eating locally versus seasonally, and how soil health has drastically changed over the years and what that means for us today.   Chris and Dr. Anthony Gustin also discuss his own personal experience dealing with health issues, how to tell if you’ve reached the point that health interventions can longer help, and why he chooses to see patients in-person when it can be done virtually.   If you’re not familiar with Chris Kresser, he’s a world-renowned expert, clinician, and educator of Functional Medicine and ancestral health. He’s also a New York Times best-selling author of the books, The Paleo Cure, and Unconventional Medicine.   Chris also founded The Kresser Institute to help educate the next generation of Functional Medicine practitioners and he co-founded and co-directed the California Center for Functional Medicine, one of the largest clinics on the west coast.   Chris was also named one of the 100 most influential people in health and fitness and he’s appeared as a guest on NPR, Fox & Friends,  Dr. Oz, Time, The Atlantic, and other well-respected media outlets.   Lastly, Chris has recently launched his own supplement line, Adapt Naturals, to address the most common nutrient deficiencies he’s seen in healthy patients in his practice.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll discover: What’s changed for Chris as far as how he looks at health, what he focuses on now, and how he’s evolved in his thinking How to tell if you’ve reached your health healing capacity or you need to push past your limitations  Pleiotropic interventions, including what those are, the role they play, and when to use them A peek inside Chris’ third book that he’s currently writing Mistaking fleeting and transitory states with permanent experiences and how to change that Why Chris chose to stick to in-person care when everyone else around him switched to providing virtual services Why Chris is actively creating in-person connections through his retreats, what that looks like, and why it’s so beneficial How so many people are experiencing nutritional deficiencies, even when eating a healthy diet and doing all the right things, and what can be done to address this How the soil health affects whether or not we reap all of the nutrients from the foods we eat What are our options for actually eating a nutrient dense diet? The main nutritional deficiencies Chris saw in his healthy patients who did everything right health-wise How nutrient levels have declined over the years The top four nutrient dense foods  How whole grains compare in their nutrient density The most nutrient dense plant foods Do we need to eat plant foods?  Should we eat plant foods? The bioavailability of the foods we eat Should we eat seasonally?  Should we only eat locally sourced foods? Hormesis and hormetic adaptations How to source foods to maximize nutrition   Resources mentioned in this episode: Chris Kresser’s website Chris’ supplement line  Chris Kresser’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Scott Barry and eudaimonic well-being The Science of Soil podcast episode with David Montgomery and Anne Biklé What Your Food Ate: How to Heal Our Land and Reclaim Our Health by David Montgomery The Natural State Podcast Episode 148: Chris Masterjohn - Covid Research, Important Micronutrients, Soil Quality, Eating Locally and Seasonally, and More  The Natural State Podcast Episode 152: Jake Muise of Maui Nui - How This Nutrient-Dense Meat is Responsibly Sourced Micronutrient Density and Bioavailability with Ty Beal The Natural State Podcast Episode 134: Dr. Paul Saladino - What We Learned from One of the Last Hunter-Gatherer Tribes
69 minutes | Dec 5, 2022
162: Chris Irvin - How Farm Life is Going for Dr. Anthony Gustin, Navigating Fatherhood and Staying Healthy, Social Media and Tech on Mental Health, and More
In this podcast episode, co-author of Keto Answers and The Ketologist, Chris Irvin and Dr. Anthony Gustin discuss their observations on social media, tech, and mental health, how Chris is navigating fatherhood while staying healthy, and what they’re currently tweaking when it comes to their own health.   Dr. Gustin also share an update on how farm life is going, his experience sending his first batch of pigs for processing and nutrient testing, the differences between grass-fed and grain-fed animals, and the types of therapies he’s currently experimenting with.   If this is your first time meeting Chris Irvin, he’s an author, nutrition science researcher, Head of Education at Perfect Keto, and The Ketologist.    He holds a Master’s degree in exercise and nutrition science and he spent his time in graduate school studying the keto diet for therapeutic applications and performance.   Chris is also the father to a now one-year-old son and he comes on the show to share his experience navigating fatherhood and health in this episode.   Here’s a breakdown of everything Chris and Dr. Gustin get into: How farm life is going, including Dr. Gustin’s experience chasing a pig and getting covered in hundreds of fire ants Dr. Gustin’s experience getting his first batch of pigs ready for processing and nutrient testing The nutrient differences between grass-fed and grain-fed animals The differences in saturated fats between grass-fed and grain-fed animals The current issues with social media What Chris and Dr. Gustin are most interested in when it comes to health lately Some use cases where the Metaverse could be really helpful How technology can be both useful and detrimental to your health and what you can do to protect yourself What Chris Irvin and Dr. Gustin are currently toying with when it comes to their health The type of therapies Dr. Gustin is currently undergoing How Dr. Gustin keeps track of the progress of his healthy habits Their thoughts on mental health and what you can do to improve it   Resources mentioned in this episode: Chris Irvin’s website Chris Irvin’s Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook The Natural State Podcast Episode 158: Dr. Stephan van Vliet - Comparing the Nutrient Density of Grass-Fed vs. Grain-Fed Meat The Natural State Podcast Episode 152: Jake Muise - How This Nutrient-Dense Meat is Responsibly Sourced The Natural State Podcast Episode 134: Dr. Paul Saladino - What We Learned from One of the Last Hunter-Gatherer Tribes
85 minutes | Nov 21, 2022
161: Taylor Collins - Using Regenerative Agriculture to Bring Ecosystems Back to Life
Taylor Collins, founder of EPIC Provisions, discusses his and his wife's journey from being vegetarian endurance athletes to creating a meat-based protein bar and how they eventually started their own regenerative agriculture farm.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll also hear how their regenerative ag practices are transforming ecosystems, why they don’t operate with a business plan and what they do instead, and what it’s like to raise two daughters on the farm.   Taylor also shares with Dr. Anthony Gustin what the next five years look like for them and how this incredible journey has changed their entire outlook.   If you’re not familiar with Taylor Collins, he's the founder behind EPIC Provisions, a high-protein, all-meat snack and the farmer and founder behind Roam Ranch, a regenerative agriculture farm in Texas that aims to produce nourishing meat and heal ecosystems.   In this episode, you’ll hear about the following topics: Taylor's background and how they became first generation ranchers What he's noticed since reconnecting with the land Taylor's health journey from following dietary norms and doing endurance races to experiencing inflammation and joint pain and how they healed themselves How Taylor's company EPIC Provisions came about How Taylor operates without a business plan and what that looked like How Taylor brought a barren piece of farmland in Texas back to life What’s destroying our land and what can be done to fix things Is it necessary to eat animals to restore natural resources? Seeing life as a transfer of energy How consumers yield the power for changing the health of our planet How a dried out creek on their property was transformed into its former flowing glory thanks to their regenerative agriculture practices How plant species have dramatically changed on their farm How the insects fared on their farm using their regenerative ag practices What the next five years look like for Taylor and Katie   Mentioned in This Episode  Taylor Collins’ Epic Provisions website Taylor’s Roam Ranch website Taylor Collins’ Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube channel Allan Savory’s TedTalk, How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
83 minutes | Nov 18, 2022
160: Kate Kavanaugh - Overcoming Fears Surrounding Death, The Sixth Mass Extinction, Becoming a Butcher and Farmer, and More
Farmer, butcher, and butcher shop owner, Kate Kavanaugh discusses how the move from city life to farm life has been, the importance of regenerative agriculture for the planet and population, and the sixth mass extinction.   She also shares her fears surrounding death and how she overcame them and her personal journey from being a vegetarian to becoming a butcher and farmer.   Lastly, Kate gives listeners an update on how her farm is doing, the lessons she’s learned along the way, and what she would tell people who would like to start a farm of their own.   Here is the episode breakdown: What Kate does and how she defines herself How Kate’s various backgrounds attributed to her evolution and the common threads that connected all of the pieces The fears Kate experienced surrounding death The sixth mass extinction and how this affects us The stories that were pervasive in Kate’s life surrounding death Kate’s incredible journey from being a vegetarian to becoming a butcher and farmer What the transition to becoming a meat eater felt like How Kate ended up opening a butcher shop The biggest lessons Kate’s learned along this journey The point Kate realized that she needed to produce the meat she sells What it was like for Kate to move from Denver to a farm in upstate New York What it’s like living in a rural community How can someone live this lifestyle when they also need to make an income? What Kate’s farming experience has been like so far What Kate did when faced with the tough decision of what to do with a pet goat that passed away in a tragic accident on her farm Building spirituality Kate’s future plans over the next several years More about Farm Finder, including what that is and why it’s so beneficial for people looking for locally-sourced, ethically-raised meat   Resources mentioned in this episode: Kate Kavanaugh’s website Kate’s butcher shop, Western Daughters Kate Kavanaugh’s Instagram and Twitter Kate’s Ground Work Collective podcast Holy Earth: The Birth of a New Land Ethic by Liberty Hyde Bailey  The Awakened Brain: The New Science Spirituality and Our Quest for an Inspired Life by Lisa Miller
53 minutes | Nov 7, 2022
159: Dr. Latt Mansor - The Latest Research on Exogenous Ketones for Improved Performance, Treating TBI and Alzheimer’s, Fat Burning, and More
Dr. Latt Mansor is the Research Lead at H.V.M.N., a daily ketone supplement company, and his work focuses on finding the optimal ketone levels for a number of different applications.   From soldiers experiencing hypoxia to athletes and the everyday average Joe, Dr. Mansor has studied ketones in-depth and he’s uncovered the best ways to use them, according to research.   In this episode, Dr. Mansor dives into how to maximize performance using exogenous ketones, the differences between the types of exogenous ketones, what the latest research shows, if this has changed at all, and so much more.   Dr. Mansor also discusses how to dose ketones based on your health goals, whether you can supplement with exogenous ketones if you’re not eating a low carb diet, is there a case where some people shouldn’t take them, and how he personally uses them throughout his day.   If you don’t know Dr. Latt Mansor, he brings over a decade of experience in academic research, health technology, and pharmaceuticals.    He holds a PhD in Physiology, Anatomy, and Genetics from the University of Oxford, where his research focused on the metabolism of the type 2 diabetic heart in hypoxia.   He also holds a Master’s from Columbia University and a Bachelor’s degree from the University of Nottingham in Biotechnology. Dr. Mansor is also a world expert in physiology and metabolism and he consults with elite sport and military personnel as well as clinical and research organizations.   As H.V.M.N.’s Research Lead, Dr. Mansor oversees the development and clinical applications for all of their products, including their powerful ketone supplement drink Ketone-IQ (TM).   When you tune in, you’ll hear about the following topics: Dr. Latt Mansor’s background and professional training and how he found himself in this space Whether there were any surprises that popped up in his research on diabetes   The differences between ketone salts, ketone esters, and H.V.M.N. What are the benefits of H.V.M.N.? What’s changed in the research over the last two years Other use cases for exogenous ketones When it comes to physical performance, is it better to have dual fuel with high carbs and high ketones? If you’re fasting, do exogenous ketones prevent fat burning? What to know about reaching autophagy while using exogenous ketones Are exogenous ketones a bad idea for some people? How Dr. Mansor personally uses exogenous ketones   Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Latt Mansor’s Instagram and Twitter H.V.M.N. Ketone-IQ (TM) H.V.M.N.’s Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube channel  
86 minutes | Oct 31, 2022
158: Dr. Stephan van Vliet - Comparing the Nutrient Density of Grass-Fed vs. Grain-Fed Meat
Dr. Anthony Gustin sat down with Dr. Stephan van Vliet to discuss his work on the nutrient density differences between pasture-raised grass-fed meats versus conventional grain-fed meats.   Dr. van Vliet’s research goes beyond just the omega fatty acid level differences and dives into other important nutrients that we don’t often focus enough attention on.   Dr. van Vliet also chats about what the soil health has to do with the health of the animal and how this affects those who eat it, how plant-based meats compare, how grass-fed meat is comparable to endurance athletes, and so much more.   You’ll also learn about Dr. van Vliet’s background and how he found himself studying nutrient density differences in protein sources.   If you’re not familiar with Dr. Stephan van Vliet, he earned his PhD in Kinesiology and Community Health and his Master’s degree in Nutrition Science.   He’s also a member of the Duke Molecular Physiology Institute within the Duke University School of Medicine and he’s currently an assistant professor and researcher at Utah State University.   Dr. van Vliet’s work has also been published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, the Journal of Nutrition, and the Journal of Physiology.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll hear about the following topics: Dr. Stephan van Vliet’s background and how he found himself in this space Dr. Stephan’s research on comparing the protein in whole eggs versus egg whites  The results from studying grain-fed versus pasture-raised beef How close to 400 compounds differed in grass-fed versus grain-fed meat The fatty acid difference in grass-fed versus grain-fed meat How the fatty acid profile in meat impacts people who eat it Comparing grass-fed meat to endurance athletes Dr. van Vliet’s Beef Nutrient Density project How the risk of heart disease changes with grass-fed versus grain-fed meats What happens when animals consume more phytochemicals in plants and how this affects us The anti-inflammatory effects of pasture-raised food How these other key nutrients differ in grass-fed versus grain-fed meats Comparing saturated fat levels in meats How soil health effects the nutrient profile in meat What happened to the nutrient profile of bison when they had a choice of what to eat Resources mention in this episode: Dr. Stephan van Vliet’s Google Scholar page Dr. Stephan van Vliet’s Twitter Dr. Stephan’s Beef Nutrient Density Project The research slides mentioned in the episode Stephan’s analysis of plant-based meats versus grass-fed meats Additional resources: The Natural State Podcast Episode 150: Richard Perkins - Creating Regenerative Agriculture Ecosystems The Natural State Podcast Episode 139: Eric Perner - Optimizing Regenerative Agriculture for a Better Future for Our Planet The Natural State Podcast Episode 122: Ed Byrne - Making Regenerative Agriculture Mainstream The Natural State Podcast Episode 109: Anya Fernald - Why Regenerative Farming is the Future of Meat  
47 minutes | Oct 17, 2022
157: Joe and Serenity Carr - Upending the Baby Food and Formula Space With Nutrient-Dense, Meticulously-Sourced Ingredients
In this podcast episode, Dr. Anthony Gustin, along with his guests Joe and Serenity Carr of Serenity Kids, answers the question - is there a clean baby formula brand out there?   You’ll likely be shocked to learn that 99% of baby formulas on the market contain harmful ingredients like GMO corn and industrial seed oils.   When Joe and Serenity realized that, they set out to make a healthier version that was nutrient-dense and much closer to the actual nutrient breakdown of breastmilk.   You’ll hear all about their journey in this episode where they discuss how they discovered that the formula options on the market were terrible for you and why they set out to make a healthier, more nutrient-dense alternative.   They’ll also share why they chose specific ingredients, why other formula manufacturers aren’t doing the same, how large amounts of heavy metals get into baby foods, and more.   You’ll also learn the difference between A1 and A2 protein in formula and why that matters and how formula manufacturers are cutting costs at the expense of our health.    If you don’t know Joe and Serenity Carr, they’re a husband and wife duo behind the clean baby food brand Serenity Kids.   After seeing how bad the baby food options were on the market, they decided to create their own using nutrient-dense proteins, healthy fats, and savory vegetables instead of sugar, grains, and other harmful ingredients.   Joe and Serenity recently launched their toddler formula and they share all about it in this episode.   Here’s a peek at everything Joe, Serenity, and Dr. Gustin get into: Joe and Serenity’s background and how they found themselves in the baby food space The first food product Joe and Serenity launched and why How they chose the specific ingredients in their first baby food product The principles their baby food products and company live by Heavy metals in baby food and how this came to light Other foods high in metals and why this is a problem for growing babies What Serenity discovered with infant formula during her own search as a mother How Joe and Serenity found themselves making their toddler formula Why other companies are still using harmful seed oils in their infant formula The differences between A1 and A2 protein found in milk How Joe and Serenity’s toddler formula compares to those on the market Why they chose to add a natural folate instead of a synthetic one like most formulas on the market do Population studies on breastmilk Why Joe and Serenity have a toddler formula (vs. infant formula) Why Joe and Serenity chose palm oil in their toddler formula Mentioned in This Episode  Serenity and Joe Carr’s website Serenity and Joe Carr’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Serenity and Joe’s blog with recipes and helpful articles More Resources  The Natural State Podcast Episode 128: Katie Wells - Creating a Toxin-Free Healthy Home, Raising Independent Children, Self-Exploration, and More The Natural State Podcast Episode 136: Brad Marshall - How PUFAs and Vegetable Oils Negatively Impact Health The Natural State Podcast Episode 144: Tucker Goodrich - The Science Behind Vegetable Oils and Why They’re Terrible For You
44 minutes | Sep 28, 2022
156: Brian Richards - The Benefits of Zero EMF Near Infrared Saunas and What Makes Them So Powerful for Health and Lifespan
Brian Richards, founder of SaunaSpace, found himself sick and struggling with insomnia, adult acne, and adrenal fatigue.   After months of research and working with an alternative medicine doctor, he discovered that near infrared saunas could offer him a non-medicated solution.   Within days of using a near infrared sauna, he noticed an immediate change in his symptoms and he saw such positive benefits that he continued with his sauna practice for the past 13 years — it’s been that life-changing for him.   Over the course of that time, Brian dove into the research and he comes on the podcast to share everything he’s learned along the way with listeners and Dr. Anthony Gustin.   When you tune in, you’ll discover the ancestral connection, why we need exposure to heat now more than ever, and the benefits that come with this practice.   On top of those topics, Brian shares practical use cases and whether you should use a wet or dry sauna, how long you should stay in a sauna, should you do it before or after a workout, how many times per week you could use a sauna, and more.   So not only will you learn about the benefits of using saunas, you’ll also find a practical guide for how to do just that to reap the biggest health perks when you check out the episode.   Here’s a breakdown of what’s in store: Brian’s journey and how he went from working in rental real estate and on fixer uppers to creating SaunaSpace, a zero EMF near infrared sauna  Why Brian chose to use incandescent light instead of heat in his saunas The three things to achieve with each sauna session Dynorphins, including what they are and how they can be beneficial What the research shows when combining sauna and exercise  Should you do a workout, then do a sauna session, then expose yourself to cold temperatures? The protocol Brian recommends when it comes to hot and cold therapy How a sauna session can help before bed 5G frequency bands and why this matters
60 minutes | Sep 19, 2022
155: Dr. James DiNicolantonio - Improving Athletic Performance, Bioavailability of Food, Improving the Nutrient Density of Meat, Three Foods to Remove From Your Diet, and More
Cardiovascular research scientist, author, and doctor of pharmacy at Saint Luke’s Mid America Heart Institute, Dr. James DiNicolantonio discusses everything from what to remove in your diet, how much salt to consume, how to improve your athletic performance, the biodiversity of food, grass-fed versus conventional meat, and so much more in this episode.   Dr. James DiNic also compares the carbon impact and soil health from growing monocrops versus multi paddock systems, how to properly hydrate before an athletic event, and he shares more about his background and how he found himself in this space.   On top of everything mentioned so far, Dr. James DiNic has also testified in front of the Canadian Senate regarding the harms of added sugars and he serves as the Associate Editor of Nutrition and British Medical Journal’s (BMJ) Open Heart.   Dr. James DiNic is also on the editorial advisory boards of several medical journals and he’s shared his expertise on The Dr. Oz Show, The Doctors, and international news media outlets.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll learn about the following topics: Dr. James DiNicolantonio’s story and how he found himself in the health space What happens when you put salt back into people’s diets The three most important foods to remove from your diet for better health The bioavailability of food and why you can’t just go by how high a food is in specific nutrients Why, as a society, we’re depleted of important nutrients and minerals and what can be done about it The craft meat movement and why this is a good thing The dramatic difference in nutrients from conventionally grown meat versus grass-fed and grass-finished and wild meats How you can be malnourished on a high calorie diet The carbon impact of grass-fed, grass-finished meat versus conventionally grown meat How conventionally grown crops and meat affect our soil health and what can be done to fix this How we only have 60 years left of fertile soil  More about Dr. DiNicolantonio’s latest book Five factors that can improve athletic performance How to properly fuel and hydrate before an athletic performance Why you need just the right amount of water intake before an athletic event and how to do that
61 minutes | Aug 29, 2022
154: Evan Brand - Getting Mold, Mycotoxins, and More Out of Your Body and Environment
Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner and Functional Nutritional Therapy Practitioner, Evan Brand, comes on the show to discuss what it’s like to have mold and toxins in your system and how to get rid of them.    Evan and Dr. Anthony Gustin also share their experiences with having mold in their homes, what it did to their bodies, and the symptoms that surfaced as a result.   They also dive into the real issues with glyphosate and how this manifests in adults and kids, how someone can go about testing for mold in their system, what to do if you have mold in your body, and why a negative reading should be retested (using a different test in many cases).   You’ll also hear about how these harmful mycotoxins get into your system, how mold can trigger mast cell activation and inflammation, and how kids can be affected by mold.   Here’s a breakdown of the topics Dr. Gustin and Evan discuss: How much glyphosate is being sprayed The connection glyphosate has to cancer to rates How glyphosate seeps into your body and wreaks havoc How do you go about addressing symptoms when there’s so much to look at? Two areas Evan says should be your top priority for improving health Dr. Gustin’s experience with testing for mold False negatives on mold tests The problem with mycotoxins and how they get into the air you breathe The symptoms Evan experienced before he discovered he had a mold problem in his newly built home Evan’s journey getting the mold out of his house and system The problem with pier and beam built homes and how to address it How mold can trigger mast cell activation and what that is What to do if you think you have a mold problem The tests to run if you suspect you have a mold problem How a PANDAS diagnosis can be connected to mold problems
65 minutes | Aug 22, 2022
153: Jeff Nobbs - Cultured Oil: The Veggie Oil Replacement That’s Healthier And Better for the Environment
Serial entrepreneur Jeff Nobbs is on a mission to solve one of the world’s biggest problems: getting rid of harmful vegetable and seed oils once and for all.   Not only are they detrimental to our health, they’re also quickly destroying the environment and the health of our planet, as Jeff show’s in this episode with Dr. Anthony Gustin.   Because of that, he decided to address the issue head on with a solution that’s backed by science and, even though it’s not technically new, it’s making incredible headway into becoming the solution we needed.   In this episode, you’ll hear all about Jeff’s Cultured Oil, what that is, what it’s made from, how it’s better for your health and the environment, and so much more.   You’ll also discover why it’s a better solution, why we can’t just replace veggie oils with animal fats, how the fat breakdown compares, and when it makes sense to use Cultured Oil.   Here’s a peek at the topics Dr. Anthony Gustin and Jeff Nobbs chat about: Jeff’s thought process and journey of starting to make and sell Cultured Oil The reasons why you can’t just use other fats instead The other reasons why animal fats wouldn’t work and why they’re not as scalable as Cultured Oil What Jeff’s process looks like to create Cultured Oil More about the fermentation process Are you eating bugs if you consume Cultured Oil? Does Jeff’s Cultured Oil contain genetically modified ingredients? Why this is not a new food and how it compares to other oils on the market What Jeff feeds the microorganisms The biggest variables to consider when producing Cultured Oil How the oil is extracted in Cultured Oil and how this compares to other oils on the market How Cultured Oil impacts the environment compared to seed oils Why not just use olive oil or avocado oil instead? The fat breakdown of Cultured Oil and why that is The qualities that make Cultured Oil better for cooking certain foods
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