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How'd You Get That Job?

22 Episodes

19 minutes | Oct 25, 2021
Women in STEM Featuring Juanita Dawson
What is it like being a woman in STEM? Listen in as Juanita Dawson (MS, Information Systems & Technology, ’05) shares her journey of going from the only woman in her math and sciences classes to becoming the director of cybersecurity and compliance at Raytheon Technologies.
31 minutes | Sep 27, 2021
Inside the Digital World of The Smithsonian with Matthew MacArthur
What happens when you combine history with technology? Matthew MacArthur (MA, History, ’97) combined his enthusiasm for the past with digital media to get his dream job. As the director of digital experience at the National Museum of American History at the Smithsonian, listen in for tips on taking inspiration from other fields to expand your job opportunities. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
33 minutes | Jul 6, 2021
Thriving in Graduate School featuring Stewart Donaldson
How do you make the most out of your graduate experience? Listen in as Stewart Donaldson, distinguished university professor and executive director of Claremont Evaluation Center, gives tips on thriving in graduate school and gaining lifetime connections. Discover how Donaldson––along with professors Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Jeanne Nakamura––developed the first research-focused PhD and MA programs in positive psychology. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
36 minutes | Jun 9, 2021
A Transdisciplinary Path featuring Eve Oishi
Rather than focus on a single field, Eve Oishi took a transdisciplinary approach to designing her college path, letting all of her interests guide her. Share her course to becoming the chair of Cultural Studies at CGU. Gain tips on how to make the most of your college experience. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
32 minutes | May 11, 2021
Discovering the Meaning of Life with Zack Bodner
What do you want to do? Who do you want to be? What is your purpose? Zack Bodner (MA, Philosophy of Religion and Theology, ’98), CEO of the Oshman Family Jewish Community Center, tells us his remarkable journey in attempting to answer those questions for himself. Listen in as he talks about making a difference and not ruling out any possibilities that led to him interning for American social and political activist, Tom Hadden, before becoming a writer and discovering the “meaning of life.” Also, be sure to check out Zack’s book "Why Do Jewish? A Manifesto for 21st Century Jewish Peoplehood" when it comes out this summer. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
53 minutes | Apr 13, 2021
From Google, Gallup, and Deloitte to Becoming an Entrepreneur featuring Kevin Campbell
How does one go from barely passing high school to having a six-figure job in the mortgage industry to working at Fortune 500 companies like Google, Gallup, and Deloitte? Listen to this episode as Kevin Campbell (MA, Organizational Psychology, ’15) shares his story and gives tips on what he learned from each company. Stay until the end to hear how he eventually founded Lifted Leadership, which helps inspire others to find their own path. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
37 minutes | Mar 4, 2021
The Art of Teaching with Shamini Dias
CGU Director of Preparing Future Faculty Shamini Dias (PhD, Education, ’13) gives tips on engaging and leading people using each individual’s unique skillset. Enjoy hearing her path to becoming, as she calls it, “a teaching artist.” Dias uses her theatre experience to blend pedagogy methods and innovate and engage students in new ways. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
46 minutes | Feb 2, 2021
An Unexpected Path to Education with Dean DeLacy Ganley
How do you go from wanting to be a large-animal veterinarian to eventually becoming the Dean of the School of Educational Studies at Claremont Graduate University? Find out as DeLacy Ganley shares her remarkable journey and her work in educational reform. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
34 minutes | Nov 30, 2020
Employed by Apple: The Insider’s Lowdown with Saori Casey
What’s it like to work for Apple, a pioneer of innovation? Saori Casey (MBA, ‘95), is Apple’s vice president of corporate financial planning and shares her stories from working at the tech giant and offers advice on the skillsets you need to get in at Apple. Gain tips from Casey’s 30 years of experience in the finance and tech fields! For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
49 minutes | Oct 8, 2020
Unexpected Turns: From Single Mom to the Dean of the School of Arts & Humanities, featuring Lori Anne Ferrell
Not every professor’s path leads directly to teaching. Lori Anne Ferrell shares a remarkable saga of a single mom and nurse, turned distinguished humanities professor and ultimately the dean of CGU’s School of Arts & Humanities. Listen for an inspiring story of how your current situation does not have to dictate your future. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
32 minutes | Sep 11, 2020
Let Them Know Your Name with Angel B. Pérez
Do you know when to say ‘yes’ to opportunities? Do you know when to say ‘no’ and enjoy the moment? Angel B. Pérez (PhD, Education, ’15) is the CEO of the National Association for College Admission Counseling. In this episode, Pérez offers tips on when to say ‘yes,’ when to say ‘no,’ and how to make your name known. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
48 minutes | Jul 20, 2020
Irreplaceable at the Smithsonian with Kerri Dean-Bridges
You need to hear this: Her biggest tip is how to make yourself irreplaceable. Alumna and current PhD student in history Kerri Dean-Bridges (MA, History, ’15) is the DIY project manager at the Smithsonian Institution—her dream job. They create remote exhibitions easily installed in any location. Listen and learn. Episode Transcript: Kerri: I was about to move to DC with my husband who had gotten a job in the city, knowing that we wanted to work there and knowing that my dream was Smithsonian, I just needed to get closer to it. In my speech, though, when I was leaving, I said, "I am going to work at the Smithsonian." I put it out there in the universe. I never have done that before ever in my life and one of my best friends told me "Just start putting it in the universe." It was the first time I said it out loud, and three weeks later they called me for the interview. So, I just feel like there was some cosmic energy to work there. Rachel Jimenez: I'm Rachel Jimenez. Megan Elledge: And I'm Megan Elledge. Rachel Jimenez: Welcome to How'd You Get That Job, a podcast from Claremont Graduate University about successful careers and the stories behind them. Rachel Jimenez: Kerri, I'm so excited to have you on our show today. Thank you so much for being here and being willing to share your story with us. Kerri: Thanks, Rachel. I'm excited to be here with you guys and talk to you about my time at CGU and how it led me to where I'm at. Rachel Jimenez: Awesome. So, you are currently the exhibitions assistant/project manager for DIY at the Smithsonian Institution, which is the National Museum of Natural History. Can you talk about what that super-long title means and what you do in your role there? Kerri: Yeah. So, it's a super long title. That's kind of on my part that it's super long. I started there in March 2018, so a little over two years, and because the Smithsonian is a quasi-government museum complex, research institution, that there are different ways of hiring, so [inaudible 00:01:36] backstory on how I got the position: I'm hired on as a contractor and, when I got the SOW, which is a statement of work, I applied for an exhibits assistant position, and then I had to bid for it. Once I got the interview, we were ready to move to DC anyway, and I got to do that interview right when I moved there, so very lucky that worked out, timing-wise. Kerri: They interviewed me for the exhibits assistant position and it's mostly just admin tasks. I help install exhibits, if there's anything that needs to be done, anything under other project managers, anything under other exhibit developers in the exhibits department and natural history. It's a department of 32 people which is quite large. We are one of the bigger museums of the Smithsonian brand. Kerri: I work directly under the assistant director of exhibits, Mike Lawrence, and when he hired me, he actually just had been promoted to that position, and so I was his first assistant. He and I get along very well, as we were both kind of Type A personalities and he realized he really didn't need much of an assistant, so they needed to give me some other task to do to keep me busy to continue to work full time, and it just happened to be, when I started there, they were starting this brand new program that's never been done at the Smithsonian and, from my knowledge, not broadly at other institutions either. Kerri: We call it the Do It Yourself exhibits, and from this, I kind of was able to transform my position from mainly just being an exhibits assistant and doing admin work to being a project manager or a program manager. We're still working on the title, so it might even be longer, who knows? It's not actually official yet. Well, it's official, but it's such a new program, we don't know if it's a program yet. We just got it on the website. Very huge accomplishment from myself and my team I was working with to do that about three weeks ago, but we're calling it a program and I'm the project manager for the Do It Yourself exhibits that have been developed. Kerri: How that came about was, in my interview, I actually mentioned how much I really like museums without walls concept, and that's actually something that came from a CGU class that I really got into this idea of a team project where we were looking at doing a museum exhibit in [inaudible 00:03:55]. It was during the Bath Spa class, and my classmates and I ... this was our group project at the end of the semester, and it really inspired me five years ago, six years ago, to start really thinking about museums without walls and how we can reach communities and not in a normal museum setting. Kerri: So, since I mentioned that in the interview and this program was just getting started, they thought I was the perfect person to kind of spearhead it when the first Do It Yourself exhibit came up. At first, we called it a pop-up exhibit, but then I did some title testing with the visitors and we landed on Do It Yourself. Now, we just call it the DIY program. It started with Outbreak, which is our exhibit that's in-house. It's called Outbreak: Epidemics in a Connected World. We took this exhibit that's 4,200 square feet, it's a very timely exhibit right now, and we pared it down into 18 content panels that we distribute for free around the world, and people can print on demand and create these exhibits to be popped up in their own museums, in their own libraries, in airports, wherever. Kerri: That's how my position has now transformed to being more of managing these Do It Yourself exhibits. I'm super excited about it because it's so exciting to see, especially Outbreak. We translated it into five languages. It's been to over 140 locations in just over two years, and I've been personally the person who contacts these people where it's gone and I've helped them get these exhibits up. I get to do specific outreach on museum content I never thought was imaginable before. So, yes, it's a very long title and it's a very long story on how I got the title, and I'm super excited on how it just kind of keeps forming into this new position and it never really existed before, so I'm excited about that. Rachel Jimenez: I love it, and I think that's so interesting. So, we know each other. You worked in the office of advancement when you were a student, so I know that the Smithsonian is your dream job. Can you give us a breakdown? I would love to hear the story of why is that your dream company to work for, and then how do you go from being an undergraduate student and then to where you are now? Even in high school. I don't know when you came up with the dream of wanting to work there, but how did that dream get established and then how do you actually make something like that come true? Kerri: So yes, we do know each other, and I've loved working with you and everyone in marketing, communications and advancement. I miss everyone, but I do love being in DC, and it is where I wanted to be. I didn't even realize that's where I ... I always knew the Smithsonian was the dream place to me and, as a kid, we grew up going to ... my parents got me really into history and I was not a history undergrad major, I was a poli sci major and I thought I wanted to be a lawyer. Then, I decided I liked myself too much, and I decided not to do that, or not to go to law school. Kerri: So, I took some time off. I took five years off. I worked at a bank, and then hated that. Then, I went and I taught at a community college. I taught at Chaffey in the writing center, and I did that for three years. That's when I decided to go back to grad school and let's get into Claremont after some people have started to tell me ... some people I'd worked with at Chaffey had also gone to CGU and they recommended looking into their program. Then, I spent a summer in China the year before I decided to apply to CGU to kind of see what I really wanted to do. Kerri: Then, that's when I got this idea, like "You know, museums have always been what I wanted to do. I've always been interested in history. I'm going to go to school for history and then do museums because I don't really want to be a professor because that's just not ... " I mean, I got the teaching experience, I taught in China, I taught at Chaffey, I led workshops at Chaffey, and it wasn't really where my passion was. I like things and what things can tell people when they go to see them in a museum setting, but I'm also the person who reads every label. So, I do love museums. Even as a kid, watching Indiana Jones and him being part of the National Museum was always inspiring. Kerri: That's how I knew the Smithsonian was the crème de la crème, right? It is the crème brûlée of museums. People think of museums, that's usually the one they think of, the institution they think of. I didn't realize it would ever happen. I was very skeptical that it would ever happen, but I had a job at a local museum in Upland, California, the Cooper Regional History Museum, for a little over a year before I left. Started as a ... to finishing up an RA position I had with Dr. Janet Brodie, and she introduced me to them. Kerri: Once I was there, I literally worked at the tiniest museum you could think of. It is so tiny, it's only five minutes from CGU but it is so tiny, and I spent a lot of time reworking their collections management policy, working on curating an exhibit, and I knew if I could do small things [inaudible 00:08:46] I doubt I could be a little fish in a big pond, but I still wanted the Smithsonian. Never would have thought it'd be the second big job I had. Kerri: My last day of working at that museum, we had an opening reception for the exhibit I curated, and the board of directors asked me to do a speech. I was about to move to DC with my husband, who had gotten a job in the city, knowing that we wanted to work there and knowing that my dream was Smithsonian, I just needed to get closer to it. In my speech, though, when I was leaving, I said, "I am going to work at the Smithsonian." I put it out there in the universe. I never have done that before ever in my life and one of my best friends told me "Just start putting it in the universe." It was the first time I said it
24 minutes | Jun 5, 2020
Finding Your Purpose with Aragna Ker
Aragna Ker (MFA, ‘04), adaptive design manager at United Cerebral Palsy of Los Angeles, Ventura, and Santa Barbara counties, describes how he found his purpose in creating and building adaptive tools for people who have disabilities. Get inspired in listening to the journey of how Ker is making a difference in the world. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
33 minutes | May 6, 2020
Owning Your Career with Ia Ko, PhD
As senior people science consultant at LinkedIn’s Glint Inc., Ia Ko (PhD, Organizational Behavior, ‘11) describes what it was like to have been a CGU international student and talks about her passion for helping people succeed in the workplace. Listen in as Ko offers insightful tips on how to translate academic theory into real practice. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.  
66 minutes | Apr 2, 2020
Lean into Your Authentic Self with Vivian Nguyen
Vivian Nguyen (MA, Organization Behavior & Evaluation, ’14), manager of talent operations & analytics for events promoter LiveNation, describes the steps she took in pursuing her dream career. Switching her path from pharmacy to psychology, and fighting the parental expectations that often face young Asian Americans, Nguyen leaned into her authentic self in landing her dream job.
30 minutes | Mar 2, 2020
Landing the Job of Your Dreams with Gar-Wei Lee
Gar-Wei Lee (MPH, Applied Epidemiology & Biostatistics, ’14), epidemiologist for the California Department of Public Health, describes her year-long process of interviews and rejections. When the outcome seemed dire, Lee took her setbacks as a way to learn, improve, and gain the skills she needed to land her CDPH job. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
37 minutes | Feb 5, 2020
Creating Your Own Opportunities with Iliana Perez, PhD
Iliana Perez (MA, Economics, ’15; PhD, Education Policy, Evaluation & Reform, ’18), is the director of research and entrepreneurship at Immigrants Rising, a nonprofit organization through which undocumented young people can get an education, pursue careers, and build a brighter future for themselves and their community. Perez, born in Hidalgo, Mexico, immigrated with her family at the age of eight. She navigated the educational system as an undocumented student for 18 years until she became a DACA recipient in 2013. Perez inspires in her personal story as well as in her life’s work. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
50 minutes | Jan 7, 2020
From Germany to Poland to PhD to Walmart with Maren Dollwet Waggoner, PhD
Maren Dollwet Waggoner (PhD, Organizational Behavior, ’13), senior director of human resources at Walmart, talks with “How’d You Get That Job” and examines what it was like growing up in Germany and Poland, immigrating to the U.S., and earning her PhD in just three-and-a-half years. Draw from her experience as she explains how she worked her way up the corporate ladder. Gain insightful tips on being a self-starter, thriving as a student—international or domestic, and seizing new opportunities. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
44 minutes | Dec 4, 2019
Two Simple Questions to Negotiate a Better Salary with Aleina Wachtel
Interested in learning how to get a job at a major tech company like Microsoft? Join us as we chat with Aleina Wachtel, program manager II at Microsoft. In this episode, Aleina shares how she excelled during her interview with a highly competitive company. Listen as she shares specific tips on how she negotiated her offer to get over $75,000 in additional benefits by simply asking a few easy questions. Episode Transcript: Page 1 of 18 Aleina Wachtel: It's so important for all us, women especially but I think everybody, to talk about these kinds of things because it's only in the benefit of the employer that we all keep it taboo. So I've coached so many people, I've actually helped about five to eight people who have now come into Microsoft after me to negotiate with their offers, and they all 100% have been successful. Rachel Jimenez: Wow. Aleina Wachtel: So I have a pretty good track record, but for me it's about knowing your worth and using some sort of leverage point. Rachel Jimenez: I'm Rachael Jimenez Megan Elledge: And I'm Megan Elledge. Rachel Jimenez: Welcome to How'd You Get That Job, a podcast from Claremont Graduate University about successful careers and the stories behind them. Rachel Jimenez: Aleina, I'm so excited to have you on our show. Thank you so much for being here today. Aleina Wachtel: Thank you so much for the opportunity. Rachel Jimenez: Oh, no problem. So, you're an alumn from Claremont Graduate University's mathematics program and you are currently a program manager II at Microsoft. Can you talk about what that means and what you do as a program manager at Microsoft? Aleina Wachtel: Absolutely. So, program managers, as I've spoken to people before about this, there isn't a major for that, and so it's kind of one of those disciplines that you learn a little bit or a lot of it on the job. But essentially what a PM does, abbreviated PM, is the liaison between the technical side of the business and the business side of the business. So, it can manifest in a lot of different forms, but the way that we talk about the PM role is you have to do everything that you can to make the program or the initiative successful, and so I'm often working with engineers and data scientists to enable some sort of capability, depending on the team. Aleina Wachtel: This transcript was exported on Apr 02, 2021 - view latest version here. S1E0420Two20Simple20Questions20to20Negotiate20a2... (Completed 03/25/21) Transcript by Rev.com Page 2 of 18 So, I'm on the data insights in growth org, so the data team for Microsoft Office, and what we do is build platforms and tools to enable the rest of Office to be data-driven. So, in my job we are working with both the partner teams, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, et cetera, and getting their requirements, and then we're working with the engineers and data scientists to make that happen, all in service of our customers at the end who are using Office products. So PMs are the little mini CEOs of different capabilities or features of whatever tooling that we have at Microsoft. Rachel Jimenez: Okay, and then how do you use what you studied at CGU on the job, or do you? Aleina Wachtel: That's a great question. So am I writing equations on a whiteboard? Not exactly, but I absolutely have to use my problem solving, critical thinking and technical skills as a PM, and it really helps that I'm on a data team specifically because it feels like I have the vocabulary to be able to speak eloquently on the things that I'm working on with data scientists and engineers. So, if they're building something for example that allows specific metrics and different pivoting of data sets for a particular capability or feature that's being created in Word, for example, I can then say, "Yes, we need to work with the experimentation team and say that we need to have a bigger sample size for this to be statistically significant." And I know what that means because of the math background that I have. Also, just as a side note, having a master's degree I think has really helped me in my career both in negotiation and being able to kind of come in to the entry level position with a little bit more background than I would've if I just stopped after going to Harvey Mudd. Rachel Jimenez: So you mentioned negotiation. Can you talk a little bit more about that? What kind of negotiation? What did you do to leverage? Aleina Wachtel: Absolutely. So, that's an area that I'm really passionate about because when I was lucky enough to be a student at Harvey Mudd where I did my undergraduate studies they talked a lot about how women historically are less likely to negotiate their offers than men are. I don't want to necessarily spend time on going into the why, but I felt obligated on behalf of women to make sure that I negotiated my offer. Rachel Jimenez: Not this woman. Aleina Wachtel: Right, exactly. Yeah, exactly. It was crazy because I'm the first person in my family to go to college, and when I got the first offer from Microsoft to work full-time, and it was six figures, and there was like a signing bonus, and stock. I was blown away, there was a lot of happy tears and crying, and I couldn't believe it because I was going to be making essentially more money than both of my parents combined, but I knew I needed to negotiate because that was something that had been instilled in me as incredibly important. My parents thought I was crazy. They were like, "What are you doing? Don't do that." But I said, "No." I'm lucky enough to have a lot of mentors in the career services both at CGU and Mudd who were like, "You got to do this." This transcript was exported on Apr 02, 2021 - view latest version here. S1E0420Two20Simple20Questions20to20Negotiate20a2... (Completed 03/25/21) Transcript by Rev.com Page 3 of 18 Aleina Wachtel: So essentially all I did, and I give a lot of coaching on this, is you go into your call with the recruiter. They've given you the offer, this is the opportunity for them to answer all your questions, and I always say start off with some warmup questions. What team am I going to be on? What's the manager like? What's it like to live in the Seattle area? Write down a bunch of things that make you comfortable, you're warming up, you're able to kind of make sure that you're at a good place to actually do this conversation, and it also puts the recruiter in a place where they're thinking, "I'm so helpful, I'm just answering questions." And then you ask the pivot question. Aleina Wachtel: So you've asked all the easy questions and then you do the pivot. So I was wondering, how exactly were the figures determined? And then the recruiter will say something along the lines of blah, blah, blah business needs, standardizes the salary for level, blah, blah, blah, it doesn't really matter what it is, but they'll give an answer. Then you say, "Well, I just wanted to know if my, insert leverage here, is being taken into account." And so that was literally all I did. It was two questions. It was how were the figures determined, and I wanted to know if my master's degree was being taken to account since I know that many other applicants are coming in with a bachelor's degree. The recruiter was like, "Oh, you know what? Let me go double-check. Don't sign anything. I'll get back to you in a couple of days." And they had come back and that offer, I'm going to be super transparent here, so it was a salary that was nonnegotiable because, again, that is standardized for the level, but that's fine, but the incoming stock award went from $60,000 to $120,000. Rachel Jimenez: It doubled, wow. Aleina Wachtel: Just because I said, "Hey, I have a master's. What are you going to do about that?" And the signing bonus went from $10,000 to $25,000. So the reason I, one, am super transparent about the numbers is because it's so important for all of us, women especially but I think everybody, to talk about these kinds of things because it's only in the benefit of the employer that we all keep it taboo, and so I've coached so many people. I've actually helped about five to eight people who have now come into Microsoft after me to negotiate with their offers, and they've all 100% been successful. So I have a pretty good track record, but for me it's about knowing your worth and using some sort of leverage point. That can be a master's degree, that can be a dual degree. I have a friend of mine who did the 3-2 Program with Harvey Mudd and Claremont McKenna where they studied business and engineering. So I said, "Hey, that's awesome. Bring that up." Sometimes it's a competing offer, sometimes it's your minor, you have this other capability that maybe other applicants don't have. So, try to be creative on what the leverage point is and it never ever hurts to ask, because the worst thing that they can do is say, "Sorry, it's nonnegotiable but we're still really excited to have you." They're not going to rescind the offer. Rachel Jimenez: Exactly. Aleina Wachtel: Which is I think one of the fears that my parents had. So, I get very excited about that topic. This transcript was exported on Apr 02, 2021 - view latest version here. S1E0420Two20Simple20Questions20to20Negotiate20a2... (Completed 03/25/21) Transcript by Rev.com Page 4 of 18 Rachel Jimenez: That's amazing, that was so insightful. I really appreciate you sharing that with our audience and being transparent about the numbers. Aleina Wachtel: Absolutely. Rachel Jimenez: One quick question about that. Were you afraid? Were you nervous at all going in, asking that question or were you ... I mean, you seem like a very confident woman, were you just like, "I got this, I'm going for it"? Had you practiced with anyone? Aleina Wachtel: I'm going to be honest, of course I was nervous. This is the only full-time offer that I had. I didn't have leverage of specifically other offers, but I think I was lucky enough, again, from my education and the resources here at CGU and Mudd that I had confidence during the call. Rachel Jimenez: Right. Aleina Wachtel: Leading up to the call, yes, incredibly nervous, but once ... I'm also a singer, so an analogy that I'll bring is right before you actually are on stage singing, it's gigantically
43 minutes | Nov 5, 2019
Conversation with a Rockstar Featuring Ian Fowles, Guitarist of The Aquabats!
Have you ever dreamed of being a rockstar? Are you curious about what it takes to make it as a musician? Join us as we chat with Ian Fowles, guitarist of The Aquabats! about his unique and interesting career path and how he has managed to make a living doing what he loves since joining The Aquabats! in 2006. For a transcript of this episode, email cgupodcasts at gmail.com and include the episode title.
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