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64 minutes | Dec 6, 2022
Co-Created Media and Collective Wisdom with Kat Cizek and William Uricchio
We begin to talk about the story between MIT’s Open Doc Lab and our guests’ book Collective Wisdom with Kat’s experiences working for the National Film Board of Canada and how this provided a precious chance for her to dig into collective wisdom. William Uricchio brings in the Comparative Media Studies program at MIT and two major characteristics of its cross-media study: remarkable community and applying humanity to work. Then we talk about the diversity of co-creation, and our guests’ definitions of some key terms, including the difference between co-creation and collaboration. Looking at the deep roots of these practices from long before the modern notion of single-authorship, Kat & William’s book lifts up alternatives for dealing with today’s “wicked problems.” It also dispels the concept of a fixed narrative for an open one, making way for participatory culture. Through examples like MIT Co-Creation Studio’s Worlding initiative, AI, and Art/Science experimentation, we talk about decentralized decision-making, the ownership/authorship of co-creation, and re-think existing models of co-creation between arts and science. Finally, our guests are careful not to present co-creation as a panacea, and that accompanying strategies are necessary to make it productive. Katerina Cizek is an Emmy-winning documentary director working across many media platforms: digital media, broadcasting (radio and television), print, and live presentations/installations. Her work has documented the Digital Revolution and has itself become part of the movement. As a filmmaker-in-residence, she has helped redefine the National Film Board of Canada as one of the world’s leading digital content hubs for a community-based and globally recognized documentary. William Uricchio revisits the histories of old media when they were new; explores interactive and participatory documentary; writes about the past and future of television; thinks about algorithms and archives; and researches narrative in immersive and interactive settings. He is Professor of Comparative Media Studies, founder and Principal Investigator of the MIT Open Documentary Lab, and Principal Investigator of the Co-Creation Studio. He was also Professor of Comparative Media History at Utrecht University in the Netherlands and has held visiting professorships at the Freie Universität Berlin, Stockholm University, the Georg-August-Universität Göttingen (Lichtenberg-Kolleg), China University of Science and Technology, and in Denmark where he was DREAM professor. He has received Guggenheim, Humboldt, and Fulbright fellowships, the Berlin Prize, and the Mercator Prize. His publications include Reframing Culture; We Europeans? Media, Representations, Identities; Die Anfänge des deutschen Fernsehens; Media Cultures; Many More Lives of the Batman; Collective Wisdom: Co-Creating Media Within Communities, across Disciplines and with Algorithms, and hundreds of essays and book chapters, including a visual "white paper" on the documentary impulse (momentsofinnovation.mit.edu). He is currently leading a two-year research initiative on augmentation and public spaces with partners in Montreal and Amsterdam. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Collective Wisdom National Film Board of Canada - Highrise George Stoney Colin mentioned “Bear 42,” but meant Bear 71 (and apologizes for failing memory). Here’s a short article on that film and the newer VR version of the original screen-based film. Henry on Archive of Our Own J.R.R. Tolkien on Subcreation Waves of Buffalo and other MIT Co-Creation Studio Worlding projects ISeeChange collective climate change study Stephanie Dinkins, AI artist Gina Czarnicki Artwork - Heirloom Google Smart City Experiment in Toronto Goncharov: The Fake Martin Scorsese Film the Internet Brought to Life Check out our previous episode with Mike Monello Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
82 minutes | Nov 30, 2022
New Media and Politics with Whitney Phillips and Sulafa Zidani
We start by digging into each of our guests’ definitions of “meme” (in contrast to Richard Dawkins), zeroing in on the agency of the meming process, how it connects with politics, and the need to be responsive to the way popular culture and the participating communities are using and defining these terms. Whitney offers “trolling” as an example to show how terms can be conflated and the consequences that result. Our guests talk about their recent research focuses: Sulafa has been looking at multilingual memes in the global south for an upcoming book, and Whitney’s early work on subcultures has led her to study mainstream political discourse. This leads to a rich discussion about current political discourse over new media platforms in the US and across the globe. Finally, Whitney and Sulafa each offer their strategies for media literacy in this interconnected media ecosystem.   A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Whitney PhillipsYou Are Here: A Field Guide for Navigating Polarized Speech, Conspiracy Theories, and Our Polluted Media LandscapeThe Ambivalent Internet: Mischief, Oddity, and Antagonism OnlineThis Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture Sulafa Zidanichapter in: Popular Culture and the Civic Imagination: A CasebookHow to Conduct Internet Meme ResearchGlobal Meme Elites: How Meme Creators Navigate Transnational Politics on the Multilingual Internet (forthcoming)Global Meme Project The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins ROFLCon Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
10 minutes | Nov 22, 2022
Minisode: Future of Online Communities
Kevin discusses possible futures of the internet and online communities. Be sure to check out the original episode at https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-101-kevin-driscoll/
70 minutes | Nov 15, 2022
Transforming Media Pedagogies with Paul Mihailidis, Sangita Shresthova, Megan Fromm
This week, we have Paul Mihailidis, Sangita Shresthova and Megan Fromm talking about their insights, stories, and theories in their book Transformative Media Pedagogies. We start with the three authors’ inspirations for their book, and then our guests share their definition of transformation, before discussing more detailed contexts for transformative media pedagogies and their mutual and crucial experiences at the Salzburg Academy which inspired them to write the book. Last but not least, we specifically talked about three sections in the book: care, imagination, and agency, and their importance for transformative media pedagogies, commenting on how to build those transformative experiences into teachers’ specific teaching contexts. Paul Mihailidis's research explores the nexus of media literacies, community activism and engagement in civic life. He is the Founding Graduate Program Director of the newly launched MA in Civic Media: Art and Practice, a 12-month applied masters program that pairs students with organizational partners to solve problems at scale, and Faculty Chair and Director of the Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change, a program that annually gathers scholars and students from around the world to investigate media and global citizenship. His most recent books, Civic Media Literacies (Routledge), Civic Media: Technology, Design, Practice (w/ Eric Gordon, MIT Press) and Media Literacy and the Emerging Citizen: Youth, Engagement and Participation in Digital Culture (Peter Lang) explore the ways in which citizens use media to meaningful participate in civic life in the digital age.   Sangita Shresthova is a writer, thinker, speaker, researcher, and doer.  She is an expert in online learning, media literacies, popular culture, cross-cultural performance, digital media, and civic engagement.  Megan Fromm is an affiliated faculty member in Emerson College and got her PhD in the University of Maryland.  A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Transformative Media Pedagogies Max Reinhardt Margaret Mead on Original Salzburg Academy on American Civilization Spreadable Spectacle in Digital Culture: Civic Expression, Fake News, and the Role of Media Literacies in “Post-Fact” Society Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change Student Press Law Center Paolo Freire: Pedagogy of the Oppressed Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
8 minutes | Nov 8, 2022
Minisode: Meanwhile in France... Minitel
Kevin talks about what was happening in the 80s in France with Minitel
71 minutes | Nov 1, 2022
Zeki Müren Hotline with Beyza Boyacıoğlu & Jeff Soyk
As one of the most influential musicians in Turkish history and the first modern pop star of Turkey, Zeki Müren gained huge popularity beginning in the 1950s across all different communities in Turkey, in spite of his groundbreaking behaviors like cross-dressing, and can be seen as an LGBTQ+ trailblazer. Even now, Zeki Müren continues to have a profound influence on Turkish society and on the Turkish people. We begin discussing how he became so popular with such a wide audience, then Beyza and Jeff talk about their own experiences with Zeki Müren, and what led them to create the interactive documentary Zeki Müren Hotline. After that, we compare the pop culture background while Zeki was performing with the current Turkish pop culture environment, and also discuss how Zeki kept the balance of pushing boundaries and also being conservative, how he used some survival behaviors, and what made him a national hero. Finally, our guests Beyza and Jeff share some stories from the Zeki Müren Hotline.  Beyza Boyacıoğlu is an award-winning documentarian and film editor from Istanbul, currently based in Brooklyn. Her work has been exhibited at MoMA, IDFA, Anthology Film Archives, RIDM, MoMA PS1, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Venice Biennial, Creative Time Summit, Barbican Centre, UnionDocs, Maysles Cinema, Morelia International Film Festival, !f Istanbul and many others.She created the interactive documentary Zeki Müren Hotline at the MIT Open Documentary Lab with Jeff Soyk. Jeff Soyk is an award-winning media artist with experience in storytelling, direction, UX design, UI design, front-end development, animation, and film/video. His credits include co-director and UI & UX designer on Zeki Müren Hotline (2022 Webby Award Honoree: NetArt, 2017 !f Istanbul exhibit, 2017 RIDM exhibit, 2016 IDFA DocLab nominee), co-creative director and UI & UX designer on PBS Frontline’s Inheritance (2016 News & Documentary Emmy Award winner, 2016 Peabody-Facebook Award winner), and art director, UI/UX designer and architect on Hollow (2014 News & Documentary Emmy Award nominee, 2013 Peabody Award winner). A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Zeki Müren HotlineZeki Müren Hotline Kickstarter (w/ background info) The Republic of Love: Cultural Intimacy in Turkish Popular Music Turkey as Major Television Exporter"Letter of Sorrow" MIT Open Documentary Lab Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
60 minutes | Oct 25, 2022
Episode 103: Counterhistories and Countermemories of TV with Lynn Spigel
In this episode, Lynn Spigel, Chair of Screen Cultures in the Department of Radio/TV/Film at Northwestern University, and our hosts discuss her research and new book, TV Snapshots: An Archive of Everyday Life, on snapshot technology and TV history. While working on a research grant for smart houses, Lynn began researching the ways in which everyday people pose with computers and TV sets. From there, she went on a journey of scouring thrift stores, vintage shops, and Ebay for more examples of these home photos of people posing with their televisions. According to her, these photos are not just evidence of conspicuous consumption but rather a myriad of other things: a backdrop of self-presentation, an erotic stage, a portal object, etc. These snapshots combine the snapshot camera and the television, two dominant technologies of middle and working class life during the mid-twentieth century, and expose a new counterhistory or countermemory of television that is more diverse and inclusive than we are used to seeing. To view these photos or upload your own examples, visit Lynn’s website, tvalbum.com. Selected photos are also available on this episode’s webpage. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
71 minutes | Oct 18, 2022
Parenting and media technology with Sonia Livingstone & Lynn Schofield Clark
A lot of parents nowadays are concerned about their children spending too much time on screens. We begin by discussing how screen time is inevitable in this post-pandemic era and that screen time itself might not be the problem. Lynn shares her own parenting experiences to state that parents also can use screen time and technology to build a good children-parent relationship and bond the family together. We then discuss the relationship between screen time and young people’s mental health, pointing out that the problem lies somewhere else instead of timing itself and we should consider other contexts like personal life when it comes to young people’s mental health. Also, regarding issues like “policing” and children’s rights, the key is the balance, and how parents use technology to create a wholesome societal environment are discussed.  Sonia Livingstone is a professor in the Department of Media and Communication at London School of Economics and Political Science. Much of Sonia’s research focuses on children’s rights in the digital age. Sonia has published 20 books on media audiences, especially on children and young people’s risks and opportunities, media literacy and rights in the digital environment, including The Class: Living and Learning in the Digital Age  (New York University Press, with Julian Sefton-Green) (view here). Her new book is Parenting for a Digital Future: How hopes and fears about technology shape children's lives (Oxford University Press), with Alicia Blum-Ross (view here).  Lynn Schofield Clark is a media critic and researcher focused on media studies and film studies. She is a prize-winning author of several books and articles on the role social and visual media play in the lives of diverse U.S. adolescents. In her 2017 book co-authored with Regina Marchi, Young People and the Future of News, Clark and Marchi utilize an ethnographic approach to tell the stories of how young people engage with social media and legacy media both as producers and consumers of news. The book received the 2018 Nancy Baym Book Award from the Association of Internet Researchers and the 2018 James Carey Media Research Award from the Carl Couch Center for Social and Internet Research  Clark's book regarding parenting in the digital age is titled The Parent App: Understanding Families in a Digital Age (Oxford University Press, 2012). Clark’s main contributions are in the areas of family media studies, media rich youth participatory action research and the mediatization (media) of world religions. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Parenting in the Age of Screen Parental mediation theory for the digital age The parent app: Understanding families in the digital age Young People and New Media: Childhood and the Changing Media Environment Gradations in digital inclusion: Children, young people and the digital divide Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Music: In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet   https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream:  https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental Music promoted by Audio Library  https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
70 minutes | Oct 11, 2022
BBSs and Early Internet Communities with Author Kevin Driscoll
Kevin Driscoll, author and associate professor of Media Studies at University of Virginia, discusses the history of BBSs, or bulletin board systems, and how they have been overlooked as part of the history of the internet. Developing out of his early experiences with local online communities, Kevin approaches the history of the internet from a grassroots perspective, offering up true stories and examples of how everyday people developed communities online. He outlines how BBSs, from the late 1970s to the 1980s, develop from a space for computer club members to share information to a place where marginalized groups, for example gay men, could gather online. Using BBS lists that were either regional or interest-oriented, Driscoll has been able to uncover the various communities and practices of early online interactions that laid the groundwork for contemporary online social groups and platforms. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Kevin Driscoll BioBook, The Modem World Fred Turner’s Research on The WellHoward Rheingold’s Research on The WellByte Magazine Vol. 3 number 11 featuring Christensen and Suess Article on CBBSsKristen Haring’s Work on Postwar Ham Radio CultureSusan Douglas’ Work on Ham Radio CultureCharlton McIlwain’s Work on AfroNet Relevant Background Information: WIRED Article on The WellMinitelQuartz Article on Stacy Horne and EchoMIT  Project Athena Internet as Third SpaceSherry Turkle Amy Bruckman Check out our previous episodes with Howard Rheingold and Sherry Turkle Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
59 minutes | May 9, 2022
Museum Curation with Jacqueline Stewart and Tyree Boyd-Pates
This week we are joined by archivist Jacqueline Stewart and historian Tyree Boyd-Pates to discuss the power of museum curation. The role of the museum curator is critical to the way that museums are experienced. We begin by discussing museums as “safe spaces for dangerous ideas” – in other words, how museums can be harbingers of racist and colonialist rhetoric when spaces are improperly curated. Museums can not only present history through materials, but also have the power to represent the present materials. We then discuss how museums can be spaces of change through seeing not only more presentation of anti-colonial materials, but also seeing those materials represented through an anti-colonial gaze. The guests stress the importance of having more African American curators in order to not only tell the history of a people, but of the community as well. Jacqueline Stewart is film scholar, archivist, curator and a Professor in the Department of Cinema and Media Studies and the College, Director of Arts + Public Life at the University of Chicago. She is also the Chief artistic and programming officer at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles. She also serves as an appointee to the National Film Preservation Board and hosts Silent Sunday Nights on Turner Classic Movies. Stewart is also the author of Migrating to the Movies Cinema and Black Urban Modernity and William Greaves Filmaking as Mission, and is an editor of L.A. Rebellion Creating a New Black Cinema. Tyree Boyd-Pates is a historian, speaker,  and museum curator at the Autry Museum of the American West as the Associate Curator of Western History. He previously held the position of History Curator and Public Program Manager at the California African American Museum. He began his career as a Professor of Africana Studies at California State University Dominguez Hills. He has curated shows for notable institutions such as the Smithsonian, the LA Philharmonic, The Getty, and more.  A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: “Where Are the Jews?” Black Films at TCM Black Cinema at the Academy Museum “Oscars So White” Iris Barry Lewis Jacob Oscar Micheaux Anna May Wong ; Academy Series  Academy Museum Podcast Making  film history more inclusive Racism in Animation Gene Autry Community Curation Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
53 minutes | May 2, 2022
Audience is part of IP, with Diana Williams
Our guest this week is Diana Williams, who, after 30 years in the entertainment media industry working on premier content like the Star Wars Marvel Cinematic universes, has founded a new company, Kinetic Energy Entertainment, focused on partnering with creatives to build new intellectual property (IP) for today’s rapidly changing media landscape. Starting with a clear and holistic definition of IP as being a story world with multiple points of entry for an audience, Diana sees this as a way to honor rich content by developing the ABC’s – Audience, Business, Creative – in tandem with specific media formats, thus building authentic engagement with the audience from the start, rather than marketing to them after a product is developed. We look at how entertainment revenue models have changed with streaming, and how business is struggling to change to fit that reality. Talking through one of her current projects, a PC game called Political Arena developed with pundit Eliot Nelson, we get a closer look at some of the strategies that guide this venture, and also the changing role of entertainment as a source of education. Without having the primary goal to educate, entertainment increasingly, if unwittingly, fills that gap, but does that make it a responsibility? While audience demand may still be dragging the legacy entertainment industry kicking and screaming toward changes in representation, that is the tide, and Diana is betting that building entertainment around audience truth is the way to develop solid and loyal fan relationships that will in turn feed into better content. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Diana’s company, Kinetic Energy Entertainment More about the Peabody Interactive BoardAnd the inaugural Winners for Digital and Interactive Storytelling, which were announced on 3/24/2022 Some of the press coverage of Political Arena game: Washington PostNPRWashingtonianMarketWatchMicThe Times UKCheddar Steam page, including the "attack ad" trailer for the game Political Arena creator and HuffPost columnist Eliot Nelson (book, The Beltway Bible) Science and Entertainment Exchange Controversy over whether to recast T’Challa (Black Panther) in the MCU For more on games-based learning, see: Kurt Squire James Paul Gee Zoe Corwin Katie Salen Takinbas For more about building out story worlds, check out our previous episodes with Nonny de La Peña, Alex McDowell, and Ann Pendleton-Julian We’ve also done several episodes about Transmedia Storytelling For more on games-based learning, listen to our episode with Kurt Squire and Katie Salen Tekinbas. … and for more discussion of Fast & Furious fandom, check out our previous episode with Sue Ding! Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
68 minutes | Apr 28, 2022
A closer look at the banning of Maus, with Hillary Chute
This week we are further diving into the recent banning of Art Spiegelman’s Maus by a school board in TN by speaking with comics scholar Hillary Chute, Distinguished Professor of English and Art + Design at Northeastern University and associate editor of MetaMaus. She discusses the history of the original publication of Maus and Spiegelman’s roots in the Underground Comics movement, which led to the elevation of the graphic novel. Then we move on to looking at why the book has been banned by the McMinn County, TN education board and situating those reasons within a larger context, including issues of otherizing Jewish histories and complicated parent/child relationships. She also uses examples from Maus to explain the power of comics as a teaching tool, and a way of processing trauma. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Our previous episode on the broader context of recent comics censorship, with critic Jeet Heer & Jeff Trexler of the CBLDF MausMetaMausOriginal publication of Maus in 1972 Funny Aminals anthology Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary (Justin Green, who passed away just before we released this episode) History of Raw magazine, Art Spiegelman & Françoise Mouly Zap Comix, Robert Crumb McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus Other Holocaust narratives taught in schools (and banned):Night and Fog (1956 film)Banning Anne Frank – A Case of Censorship Spiegelman and Sendak Collab Strip about kids reading Maus Spiegelman’s Support for Children Comics:Toon Books ImprintLittle Lit anthology series Gender Queer, Maia Kobabe Hillary’s forthcoming book of essays about Maus, Maus Now Our previous episode with comics theorist Scott McCloud Hillary’s recommendation: Joe Sacco Our previous episode with Carol Tyler & Mimi Pond and the emergence of female-centered underground comics In the Shadow of No Towers (Henry’s own writing on No Towers can be found here) Reprinting classic comics – Sunday Press Fantagraphics (NSFW or kids!) Wally Wood’s “Disneyland Memorial Orgy” Will Eisner Classics Illustrated comics Librarians and Comics Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
72 minutes | Apr 18, 2022
Context around the Censorship of Comics with Jeet Heer and Jeff Trexler
This week Henry and Colin are joined by writer and comics critic Jeet Heer and Jeff Trexler, Interim Director of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, to discuss the broader context for the censorship of graphic novels in schools. Jumping off from the recent censorship of Art Spiegelman’s Maus by a TN school board, we review the long history and reasoning of censorship, policing, gatekeeping of comics – from early newspaper strips, to the first magazine books sold to kids in drug stores, the Senate investigation and self-censorship code of the 50s, and on to the Underground comics movement for adults and the independent comics of the 80s. Recently, we’ve seen the same concerns arise anew as equal protection laws have brought things that were once considered private into the public sphere, and the pandemic brought the classroom and its educational use of graphic novels into the home. We point out the changes that have led teachers and librarians to “switch sides” in this argument and become proponents of comics as literature, and talk about the role comics can play in engaging readers of all ages, as well as helping to express the full diversity of American culture. We end with some thoughts about how individuals can respond to the challenges comics are once again coming under and support their role in this dialogue. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Jeet Heer, columns in The Nation, The New Republic books: Arguing Comics, A Comic Studies Reader, The Superhero Reader, In Love with Art Jeff Trexler, Interim Director, Comic Book Legal Defense Fund McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus; Jeet’s writing immediately afterLeander, TX school district banning of graphic novel versions of The Handmaid’s Tale & The Lottery Early newspaper comics: Katzenjammer Kids, Mutt & Jeff Comics for older youth:Duck Comics, Carl BarksCrime Does Not Pay, Charles BiroEC Horror comics, William GainesFor more about the history of horror comics, see Episode 74: Horror, Social Change, andExperimentation with Michael Monello and Qiana WhittedFrederic Wertham and Moral Panic around Horror and Crime ComicsFrederick Wertham speechThe Comics Code Underground Comics and the origins of the CBLDF:Friendly Franks comics shopDennis Kitchen, comics publisherZap Comix, Robert CrumbRaw, Art Spiegelman & Françoise MoulyFilm, Comic Book Confidential Independent comics of the 80s aimed at adults:WatchmenThe Dark Knight The new wave of graphic novels aimed at youth again:Bone, Jeff SmithTOON Books, Françoise MoulyMangaBooks By Raina Telgemeier Other critically-acclaimed yet controversial graphic novels:Gender Queer, Maia Kobabe Persepolis, Marjane Satrapi Fun Home, Alison Bechdel Early proponent of comics for children Josette FrankAnd today: Graphic Novels and Comics Round Table of the American Library Association Henry’s book Comics and Stuff Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
61 minutes | Apr 11, 2022
Bringing Storytelling to Academia through Afrofuturism with Stephanie Toliver
In this episode Stephanie Toliver, Assistant Professor of Literacy and and Secondary Humanities at University of Colorado Boulder and lifelong sci-fi nerd chats with Henry and Colin about her experience writing her hybrid PhD dissertation. As part of her PhD, Stephanie got the opportunity to work with the DEEP Center’s Block to Block Program teaching middle-school age black girls how to write science fiction. Her now published dissertation combines the stories written by those girls with theory and methodology to outline how Stephanie centers Black girls in her academic research. In this conversation they discuss how Stephanie’s leading style during the workshop was informed by the girls’ own interests and their storytelling instincts rather than the typical teacher-student model. As a group they engaged with afrofuturist stories from Black authors like Octavia Butler, Sherri L. Smith, Tracie Baptiste, and Nnedi Okorafor and used those stories to inform their own work. In detailing her own process, she explores with the hosts how academia should encourage storytelling, especially for scholars of color, rather than enforcing that they write in a more standard voice and tone. As a professor she encourages educators to use young adult literature to bridge the gap between learning and storytelling and more information about that can be found on her blog readingblackfutures.com.  A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Documentary on the DEEP Center’s Block by Block Program: Block by Block's Guide to Resilience 21-22 USC Annenberg’s Civic Media Fellowship Henry’s Civic Imagination Project On Spiritual Strivings, Cynthia Dillard’s Book that inspired Toliver’s teaching methods Stephanie’s Blog Post Defining AfrofuturismAfrofuturism Defined Elsewhere:Afrofuturism: From the Past to the Living Present | UCLAA Beginner's Guide To Afrofuturism: 7 Titles To Watch And Read (Essence)How Afrofuturism Can Help the World Mend | WIREDAfrofuturism: From Books to Blockbusters | It's Lit! (PBS) Afrofuturist Texts Mentioned in the Episode: Orleans by Sherri L. Smith Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler The Jumbies by Tracie Baptiste Octavia’s Brood edited by Adrienne Maree Brown and Walidah Imarisha “Sera” by Nicola Yoon from Because You Love to Hate Me edited by Amerie  For more visit Stephanie’s blog here: https://readingblackfutures.com/black-girl-sffh/, https://readingblackfutures.com/black-boy-sffh/, https://readingblackfutures.com/black-sffh-anthologies/ Raymond Williams, “Culture is Ordinary” Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
86 minutes | Apr 4, 2022
Participatory Civic Media with Cathy Cohen and Jen Humke
This week Henry and Colin are joined by Cathy Cohen, a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago and Jen Humke, a senior program officer at the MacArthur Foundation to discuss Participatory Civic Media. Cohen discusses her work with The Black Youth Project and GenForward, projects that are focused on building independent institutions and influencing media institutions, respectively. These projects are supported by Humke through the MacArthur Foundation. We discuss the work introduced by the guests as they focus on engaging youth of color, predominantly Black youth in how they are represented and the way they represent themselves within digital media. Participatory civic media allow marginalized groups who have not had a voice in media, particularly in the political sphere, to now have one. We then consider the danger in focusing on voice more than power. More and more people may find their voice through a growing democratic digital media landscape, but that does not mean they are sharing in the power. How do we enact a power shift to give an equal playing field to all voices? A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Cathy Cohen is the David and Mary Winton Green Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago. She is also the creator of The Black Youth Project and the GenForward Survey. Cohen is the author of Democracy Remixed: Black Youth and the Future of American Politics and The Boundaries of Blackness: AIDS and the Breakdown of Black Politics. She is also a co-editor of Women Transforming Politics: An Alternative Reader. Jen Humke is the Senior Program Officer for the Journalism and Media program at the MacArthur Foundation. Her grantmaking work focuses on participatory civic media.  Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Henry Jenkins, What Is Civic Media? Black Youth ProjectgenForward Survey Civic Imagination ProjectAtlas of the Civic Imagination Civic Media Fellowship Danielle Allen on Reconciliation From Voice to Influence: Understanding Citizenship in the Digital Age Robin Kelly, Freedom Dreams Alissa Richardson: Bearing Witness While Black: African-Americans, Smartphones and the New Protest Journalism Megan Stielstra Color of Change Define American Darnell Moore Nicholas Negroponte – Being Digital Crystal Echo HawkReservation DogsIlluminative Podcast  Illuminative Netflix program Connie Yowell danah boyd Mimi Ito Digital Media and LearningYouth and Participatory Politics Joe Kahne March for Our Lives Q-Anon Confronting the Challenges of Participatory Culture (Fifteen Years Later)  Podcasting  Origin StoriesBBC’s Noise: A Human History, “Radio Everywhere” (14:37)FDR fireside chat 1 (12:57)Norman Corwin (56:28)Edward R. Murrow Podcast and DiscordRadio Free GeorgiaEar HustleNancyHow to Be a Girl; Peabody Award Plus, check out these earlier earlier episodes:Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo HawkEpisode 22: Benjamen Walker and Wu MingEpisode 81: Warren Hedges on the Fantasy Roots of the Capital InsurrectionEpisode 48: Digital Diversity with Craig Watkins, Mimi Ito and Katie SalenEpisode 82: Bridgit Antoinette Evans and Tracy Van Slyke on the Intersection of Art and ActivismEpisode 69: The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
68 minutes | Mar 28, 2022
Curious Conversations Across the Divide with Mónica Guzmán
Mónica Guzmán, author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times, is the Director of Digital and Storytelling at Braver Angels which is a cross-partisan nonprofit organization dedicated to bridging America's widening political divide. Mónica’s background in journalism and her own life experiences brought her to Braver Angels as a person interested in conversation without judgment. As a daughter of Mexican immigrants who considered themselves Republicans and a journalist, Mónica understands political party differences on a personal and professional level. In the episode she describes her journey to Braver Angels and details how the organization creates spaces, through workshops, where citizens across party lines can have difficult conversations. As she and Henry explore divides within family structure she notes how family ties put more at stake in these political conversations but how that can be extremely powerful even though it is uncomfortable. Trust and listening are more important than people may think when trying to have these conversations and Braver Angels helps people develop those skills. The end of the episode also addresses some of the controversy the organization has had recently surrounding the conservative opinions related to the January 6th Capitol attack and Henry and Colin discuss how Braver Angels transparently discussed their podcasting practices in relation to misinformation and conspiracies.  A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Mónica Guzmán Book: I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times Braver AngelsMónica’s earlier journalism for The Evergrey (Seattle)Interview with The Daily Kos (“you don’t have to talk to a Nazi tomorrow”) Braver Angels’ list of roles we play in family conversations about politics USC Norman Lear Center research on media consumption among liberals, moderates and conservativesJonathan Haidt: The moral roots of liberals and conservativesAnd more about his book, The Righteous Mind Braver Angels podcast and controversy:Depolarization in the Age of Misinformation | Jonathan Rauch with David Blankenhorn & Ciaran O'Connor (our clip starts around min 7) A Conservative Perspective on January 6th & the 2020 Election | Peter Wood with Ciaran O'Connor (our clip starts around min 17:00) Braver Angels national debate to open up the larger question—"Should we draw lines?"—to hundreds of people. President David Blankenhorn chimes in toward the end of the video Braver Angels Podcast host Ciaran O'Connor’s op-ed in the Deseret News with more of the product of Braver Angels’ reflection on what happened, and also YouTube's role Mónica’s own reflection on the issue in an interview with the American Press Institute asking "what might journalism learn from 'bridging'?." Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
9 minutes | Mar 21, 2022
Josie Duffy Rice: Defund the Police
For more with Josie Duffy Rice, listen to Episode 93!
46 minutes | Mar 7, 2022
Reimagining Criminal Justice with Josie Duffy Rice
This week Henry and Colin catch up with AnnLab Civic Media Fellow Josie Duffy Rice to talk about the stories we hear and tell about our criminal justice system, and how we can reframe them to focus on people, not punishment. Josie recalls how her early experiences as a journalist covering public prosecutors quickly made her realize how opaque the system was and how she continues to work to humanize issues of criminal justice reform and abolition through her work as a writer and podcast host on What a Day. We discuss how fictional narratives, like the myriad police procedurals on television, inform much of our common understanding (and mis-understanding) of the issues, and wonder what abolition media might look like, and how it can play a central role in the real work of transitioning our culture toward one where we don’t need police and prisons. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: Josie Duffy Rice, Twitter, InstagramWhat a Day podcastVanity Fair article, The Abolition MovementThe AppealJosie’s earlier work on Daily Kos 60 Minutes story about Glenn Ford, wrongly convicted to Death RowProsecutor Marty Stroud’s public apology David Foster Wallace - This is Water Progressive policing imagined on The WireHarvard Law School’s class on The Wire Becoming Abolitionists by Derecka PurnellAbolitionist Mariame Kaba Conflict on Star Trek Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk This episode features clips from:Friends: Season 7 Episode 11 "The One with all the Cheesecakes" and Season 6 Episode 9 "The One Where Ross Gets High."Law & Order SVU: Season 15 Episode 7 "Dissonant Voices"The Wire: Season 3 Episode 4 "Hamsterdam"Scandal: Season 4 Episode 14 Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
71 minutes | Feb 28, 2022
Disney Theme Parks with Rebecca Williams and Lauren Sowa
Rebecca Williams and Lauren Sowa discuss Disney theme park fandom from Disneyland California to Disney theme parks across the globe. Williams and Sowa share their history with Disney films and how that love has translated into their love for the theme parks as adults. We then dive further into the theme park as a space of play for adults and why being a childless adult at Disney has been unjustly stigmatized. Even with strict rules and regulations, Disney theme parks offer spaces of play for adults who have very little safe spaces to play outside the parks. We also discuss the Disneyfication of adult source material and how that further translates into the transmedia brand universe that is specific to Disney theme parks. Disney theme parks have been spaces of ritual and transformation for both children and adults. As Disney continues to consume our fantasies with its continual purchases of franchises such as Star Wars and Marvel, how do children and adults alike contend with the rapidly expanding trans media universes that come together within the Disney theme parks while the outside world contends with its own racist, sexist, and culturally insensitive past and present. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: About Lauren Sowa About Rebecca Williams; Faculty PageBooks: A Fan Studies Primer Theme Park Fandom: Spatial Transmedia, Materiality and Participatory Cultures Post-Object Fandom Everybody Hurts Torchwood Declassified How to Properly Dress at Disneyland’s Galaxy’s EdgeWhat is DisneyBounding?Disney Bounding Fan documentary Janet Wasko, Disney Project Henry Jenkins, Transmedia Storytelling 101 Splash Mountain revampYou Must Remember This on Splash MountainBrides for Sale on Pirates of the Caribbean rideRevisions to Jungle Cruise Lauren Sowa on Disney Princesses as Feminist Icons Mickey Mouse Monopoly: Disney, Childhood and Corporate Culture – critical documentary on Disney culture Sparks Program The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World ride theme musicWalt Disney's Tour of DisneylandDisneyland - Lands - Wonderful World of Color - Walt DisneyThe Disneyland Story (Disneyland Episode #1): October 27th, 1954 Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
60 minutes | Feb 21, 2022
How the Arts Can Save Education with Erica Halverson
This week we’re joined by a whoopensocker of a guest - Erica Halverson. After telling us all what a “whoopensocker” is, she brings us up to speed on her education intervention of the same name, where teaching artists employ the rules of improv to encourage kids to express themselves and engage in collaborative storytelling. Those stories are then presented back to them in the form of a professionalized vaudeville show on the Whoopensocker podcast and YouTube channel. We discuss how these methods confront some of the failings of traditional learning environments and assessments in the classroom today, as well as honor the importance of The Arts in education in a way that seems absent from most STEAM programs. A full transcript of this episode will be available soon! Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: More about Erica Halverson, past and present projects: https://www.ericahalverson.com/Book: How the Arts Can Save EducationThe Whoopensocker ProjectWhoopensocker PodcastWhoopensocker YouTube What the heck is a Whoopensocker? Playmakers Laboratory, ChicagoBossypants by Tina Fey (see: “the rules of improv and how they can change your life”) Henry’s blog series on his open-laptop exam:The QuestionKnowledge CommunityWhat Happened Part One Part TwoOpen Laptop Activities Part One  Part Two Baking ImpossiblePortlandia: Put a Bird On It!Making It with Amy Poehler & Nick Offerman Carole King - Really Rosie Kids’ pop culture references:Giannis Antetokounmpo | Milwaukee BucksFortniteDabbingFive Nights At Freddy'sJohn Cena Seymour PapertMitch ResnickComputer ClubhouseShirley Brice Heath Constructionism - constructivist theory of learning Six, the musical Sputnik CrisisMargaret Mead - A Creative Life for Your ChildrenAmy Ogata – Designing the Creative Child Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com. Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
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