In this episode, the ladies are back to break down Ian McKellen's delightful blog about his time filming LOTR and recent casting news out of the Cube (Amazon.) Then, for the meat of the episode, the salted pork if you will, we speak with yet another bona fide very smart person, Sarah's good bud Rachel, whose dissertation included an interesting discussion of madness in LOTR. We also make the case for Pippin in this episode, and Hobbit wisdom more generally. Then to close out, our Shadowfact deals with the Rings of Power and the Unseen - spooky. Thanks for listening!