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Future Law Podcast
37 minutes | Jul 15, 2021
Ep. 39 - Jordan Furlong, on Future Law, Re-regulation, Access to Justice, and the Rule of Law
Jordan Furlong brings an unusual sharp and critical eye to conversations about the future of law, as a consultant, author, and former lawyer. He pulled no punches in this wide-ranging conversation with host Michael Madison, covering lawyer licensing, legal literacy, the rule of law, and the fundamental values that characterize the best of the legal profession, from ancient times to the present. Links Law21, Jordan Furlong's consultancy The Law21 blog Jordan Furlong on Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
35 minutes | Jul 1, 2021
Ep. 38 - Michael Sears, on Leadership Innovation in the Military, Silicon Valley, and Law
Michael Sears spent three decades as an investor and CEO in Silicon Valley after a first career as an officer in the Marine Corps, followed by law and business degrees. Now he is back at the United States Naval Academy, leading a leadership innovation lab as part of the Academy's continuing requirement that all midshipmen advance through a curriculum in leadership, ethics, and law. His distinctive background offers fertile ground for reflection in this episode, on cross-pollination among cultures and practices of tech innovation, military service, and the legal profession. Links Michael Sears at the Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership The Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership The Boeing Leadership Innovation Laboratory Interactive Leadership Simulations Radio Stockdale: podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
37 minutes | Jun 15, 2021
Ep. 37 - Vikram Mansharamani, Trend Spotter, not a Lawyer
Future law means understanding worlds beyond law. Lawyers spend a lot of time talking to other lawyers. This episode features a fascinating conversation with Vikram Mansharamani, a consultant, author, and importantly, not a lawyer, about macro trends in the economy and society that will inevitably come to affect legal professionals and legal systems. Link Vikram Mansharamani, Think for Yourself: Restoring Common Sense in an Age of Experts and Artificial Intelligence (Harvard Business Review Press, 2020)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
35 minutes | Jun 1, 2021
Ep. 36 - Joy Heath Rush, CEO of the International Legal Technology Association
Joy Heath Rush is the CEO of the ILTA, a global volunteer-led membership organization that develops and shares information about technology in law practice, supporting lawyers and other professionals in law firms, law departments, governments, and academic organizations. In this episode, she and host Mike Madison reflect on the evolution of legal tech since the mid-1980s and bring the story up to the present, with insight into critical contemporary topics and takeaways. Link International Legal Technology AssociationSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
35 minutes | May 15, 2021
Ep. 35 - Joan Heminway, on Corporate Law and Leadership
Joan Heminway brings long experience as a corporate lawyer in BigLaw to her work researching and writing about securities law and corporate finance at the University of Tennessee. Now she is assuming a key role at the head of the university's well-known Institute for Professional Leadership, building on those experiences to help law students and new lawyers acquire leadership skills and navigate the future of law. Links Joan MacLeod Heminway at the University of Tennessee Institute for Professional Leadership at the University of TennesseeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
45 minutes | May 1, 2021
Ep. 34 - Andrea Matwyshyn, Penn State Professor of Law and Innovation
How can law and lawyers move the public policy process? Dr. Andrea Matwyshyn is a law professor at Penn State University who is on a mission to bring lawyers, policymakers, and engineers together to solve complex social problems at the edges of law and technology. (She has a faculty appointment at Penn State's College of Engineering to go with her law faculty role.) Future Law Podcast host Mike Madison talks with her about grounding that mission in her "lab" work with her students, and how that "lab" projects come out of her research on technology, computer security, gender and ethics, and history. Dr. Andrea Matwyshyn's home page The PILOT Lab at Penn State Law A PILOT Lab project: the Computer Herstory Museum The Manglona Lab at Penn State Law Dr. Andrea Matwyshyn on Twitter Article about "The Internet of Bodies"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
34 minutes | Apr 15, 2021
Ep. 33 - Michele Pistone, Training Allied Professionals at Villanova Law
The future of law includes more than the future of lawyers. At Villanova University, Professor Michele Pistone has launched a pioneering online program to train non-lawyers as authorized advocates in immigration law. Professor Pistone talked about her plans on an earlier episode of the Future Law Podcast. Now she's back, sharing stories of her surprising results, with host Mike Madison. Michele Pistone at Villanova Law The VIISTA program at Villanova Michele Pistone on TwitterSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
32 minutes | Apr 1, 2021
Ep. 32.0 - Colin Levy, Legal Tech Evangelist
As a law student, Colin Levy saw the future of legaltech, and after graduating he set about building himself a career in the field. Ten years later, he's navigated through in-house roles, built out his skill set, and networked his way to a position as Director of Marketing and Business Development for WordRake, which produces editing software for professionals, including lawyers. For the Future Law Podcast, Mike Madison talked with Colin about his path to his identity as a self-described "Legal Tech Evangelist." Colin Levy at Linkedin Colin Levy at TwitterSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
34 minutes | Mar 15, 2021
Ep. 31.0 - Eimear McCann, Director of Strategy at Summize
Does the legal profession have a place for creative and imaginative people? How does the future of law differ from its past? Hear an unusual conversation between Future Law Podcast host Mike Madison and Eimear McCann, now Director of Strategy at UK-based LegalTech firm Summize and also a former immigration and human rights lawyer, and also a teacher and writer. Links: Eimear McCann SummizeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
32 minutes | Mar 1, 2021
Ep. 30.0 - Christophe Roquilly, Director of the Augmented Law Institute at EDHEC
"Future Law" is a global phenomenon with multiple local applications. What's different about the French experience, and what does the French experience share with the future of law elsewhere? The EDHEC Business School in Lille is the home of the new Augmented Law Institute, a purposeful blending of training in law, business, and technology that builds on EDHEC's long-standing investment in multi-purpose professional preparation. In this episode of the Future Law Podcast, Mike Madison interviews Christophe Roquilly, the Director of the Augmented Law Institute and the architect of EHDEC's law-plus-business programming. Links: The Augmented Law Institute at EDHEC Business School Professor Christophe RoquillySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
31 minutes | Feb 15, 2021
Ep. 29.0 - Ed Walters, Co-Founder and CEO of Fastcase
Fastcase is now 20 years in to its mission to transform legal publishing and access to legal information. Fastcase co-founder and CEO Ed Walters joins Mike Madison to talk about the origins of the company (beer and softball contributed, along with a research challenge from an unexpected source), the journey to date, and visions and implications of the future of law. Links: Ed Walters FastcaseSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
32 minutes | Feb 1, 2021
Ep. 28.0 - LegalTech in London: Giles Thompson and Amy Conroy of Avvoka
Our tour of LegalTech takes The Future Law Podcast to London and this conversation with Giles Thompson and Amy Conroy. Giles and Amy are two early-career lawyers who stepped quickly off the path to a conventional law practice career and, in very different respects, onto the team at Avvoka, which offers a document automation platform. Mike Madison talks with Giles and Amy about what Avvoka is up to, how that fits in the evolving LegalTech landscape, and how each of them came to be where they are today. Links: Avvoka Giles Thompson Amy ConroySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
35 minutes | Jan 15, 2021
Ep. 27.0 - Marlene van Nelson, Solo Practitioner in a Tech Era
In this episode of the Future Law Podcast, Mike Madison talks with Marlene van Nelson, a recent law graduate who followed a classic path: she hung out a proverbial shingle and launched a solo practice. A few short but fast-paced years later, she's expanded her practice and found her niche, delivering "people law" services to small business and individual clients while nimbly blending the personal with the technological. Marlene tells her own story, from her dream of becoming a lawyer, to the detours along the way, to her current firm: Trellis Legal. All about Trellis Legal.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
31 minutes | Jan 3, 2021
Ep. 26.0 - Lisa Leong, Innovating and Collaborating During the Pandemic
How do you build and re-build collaborative and innovative cultures in a virtual environment? The future of law isn't all face-to-face. In this reunion episode, original Future Law Podcast host Lisa Leong returns to talk with Mike Madison about pivoting her broadcasting and consulting practices in response to COVID shutdowns, what practicing lawyers and law teachers can borrow from her experience, and about shifting mindsets from "me" to "we." Links and references: Lisa Leong at LinkedIn Robert Putnam, "The Upswing" Otto Scharmer and PresencingSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
32 minutes | Dec 15, 2020
Ep. 25.0 - Dan Linna, Teaching at the Intersections of Law Practice and Technology
Daniel W. Linna, Jr. is Senior Lecturer and Director of Law and Technology Initiatives at Northwestern University's Pritzker School of Law, with an additional appointment in Northwestern University's McCormick School of Engineering. He's also a former litigation partner in a large law firm in Detroit. He joined Mike Madison for an energetic conversation about legal system innovation and change, what law schools and law firms are doing right and wrong today, and about the need to ground innovation on all sides in evidence. Dan Linna at Northwestern Law. Dan hosts the LegalTech Lever blog. And he has his own podcast, Law Technology Now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
32 minutes | Dec 1, 2020
Ep. 24.0 - Michele DeStefano, Leader of Law Without Walls
Michele DeStefano is the founder and leader of Law Without Walls, or LWOW, a pioneering program for team- and project-based legal education that gathers students and partners from around the world. She is a full-time professor of law at the University of Miami who has also documented her methods and published research on their effectiveness. Mike Madison talks with Michele about the origins and impacts of LWOW. Michele DeStefano's biography at the University of Miami. The Law Without Walls website. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
33 minutes | Nov 18, 2020
Ep. 23.0 - Cat Moon, Law Professor Making Law Better
Cat Moon leads the Program on Law and Innovation (PoLI) at Vanderbilt University's law school, a role that she took on after practicing law for nearly 20 years in Nashville, Tennessee. At PoLI and beyond, for the last several years she has become a passionate voice for making lawyers - and law - better. Mike Madison talks with Cat about PoLI, her vision for future lawyers, and her work helping to build and promote the Delta Model for lawyer competence. Cat Moon's biography at Vanderbilt Law. The Program on Law and Innovation at Vanderbilt. The Delta Model.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
27 minutes | Nov 1, 2020
Ep 22.0 - Thomas Aertgeerts, CEO and Co-Founder of European LegalTech startup Aeco
Thomas Aertgeerts is the co-founder and CEO of a Belgium-based LegalTech startup offering tax law services today and on a mission to transform the legal industry tomorrow. He talks with Mike Madison about the legal entrepreneur's life, transitioning out of a classic law practice career, and the future of legal services. He is the author of a provocative essay in the American Bar Association (ABA) Journal in April 2020 titled, "Is my law firm preparing me for success in the next decade?" His company, Aeco, can be found here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
28 minutes | Oct 15, 2020
Ep. 21.0 - Lizzy Shackelford, Lawyer, Diplomat, and Author
Elizabeth "Lizzy" Shackelford took her law degree and followed her dream to serve internationally, eventually spending more than seven years with the US Department of State in a series of posts in Eastern Europe and in Africa. Now retired from her diplomatic service and the author of a recent book on US foreign policy and diplomacy, in this podcast she reflects with Mike Madison on what it means to be a lawyer in a rapidly-evolving world. Link to the book: Elizabeth Shackelford, The Dissent Channel: American Diplomacy in a Dishonest Age (PublicAffairs, 2020)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
29 minutes | Oct 1, 2020
Ep 20.0 - Tom Dreyfus, CEO and Co-Founder of Josef, an Australian LegalTech Startup
Dean Dan Hunter chats with Tom Dreyfus, CEO and co-founder of the Melbourne-based legal technology firm Josef. Josef gives both practitioners and law students a leg up in creating bots - automated processes for legal analysis - without expecting lawyers to know how to code and without expecting that legal experts should be cut out of the professional loop. Dan and Tom talk about Tom's path to leadership: a law degree, followed by an early career in law practice, and then the world of entrepreneurship in robotics and legaltech - all without a computer science background. Find Josef here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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