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27 minutes | May 25, 2022
Comparing Faith in Marriage
Just like there is pressure to have Instagram-worthy devotions everyday, there can be a pressure to have family devotions--with your husband leading. Gretchen and Katie both affirm male headship in the home, but how can that be twisted to put huge expectations on husbands to do certain things, a certain way? They talk about the common hesitation for women to teach their children, or even step forward in other areas of church life, because they're afraid they will be somehow getting ahead of their husbands, spiritually speaking. Many women even feel either guilt or superiority if they study their Bibles more than their husbands. This can lead to them trying to figure out ways to manipulate or pressure their husbands to stay one step ahead of them, to somehow maintain his leadership. These invented expectations and pressures we put on our marriages can be so harmful. This conversation comes down to the doctrine of vocation, and serving one another as co-laborers for the gospel. It's not a competition, and it's not a comparison. We are in this mission together. We are looking for 100 new donors for the 1517 podcast network. If you'd like to support this ministry, in any amount, please visit here: http://www.1517.org/celebrate
23 minutes | May 19, 2022
Is America a Christian Nation?
In this episode, we bring on Dr. Dan van Voorhis, professor in the "History of Christianity in America" 1517 academy course, to talk to him about how our history affects our theology. We talk about migration patterns in America, as different people groups emmigrate here throughout the centuries, and how different denominations affect each other regionally. The circumstances of history often push the church to ask questions it wouldn't ask with such intensity otherwise: such as during Covid, when the church started asking the question: what is church, and why do we need it? This facinating discussion is not long enough, but fortunately, his whole course on it is free, and available on the 1517 academy page. https://1517-academy.thinkific.com/courses/christianity-in-america Dan also does a short, daily podcast on Church history, "The Christian History Almanac." https://www.1517.org/podcasts/the-christian-history-almanac The promo video for this course: "Is America a Christian Nation?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMZZWfGIZQ&t=14s Support the work of 1517
30 minutes | May 12, 2022
Vocation and Human Flourishing
If we are saved by faith, not by works...then do our works matter? In this episode Gretchen interviews Mike Berg, author of "Vocation: the Setting for Human Flourishing" and teacher of the free academy course, "Masks of God: The Lutheran Doctrine of Vocation." We discuss how when we have the doctrine of justification established, we are reoriented--not to try to use our works to earn God's favor, but turned outward toward loving our neighbor. We talk about various areas of vocation, from family, job, civic, and church, as well as how vocation extends to understanding the craft of a job--a job well done. The doctrine of vocation even ties into human dignity, and how we treat others, and treat their work. The next few weeks, we will continue to interview a few of the teachers of our free academy courses. These courses are great for individual, or even small group use. 1517 puts out such a variety of quality produced, free resources that we just wanted to make you aware of more of them. If you would like to donate to 1517, and partner with us that way, you can do that here: https://www.1517.org/donate Also, we would love to see you at our national conference in San Diego this fall. Registration for that event is here: https://www.1517.org/events/hwss-2022
27 minutes | May 5, 2022
Theology in the Home
We recently had the chance to meet in person with our podcast producer: Caleb Keith, and so we took the opportunity to have a conversation with him about catechizing children. In other words: what do you want your kids to know about God before they grow up and leave the home? Caleb is a young dad with 3 kids, and as catechism was important in his home growing up, it's something that's important as he's raising his kids. He talks about Luther's Small Catechism, as well as just having regular conversations with your kids about God as a part of your family culture. These conversations and theological pegs serve as a foundation for preparing children for life. Caleb is a regular at the "Thinking Fellows" podcast, as well as "Outlaw God"--both part of the 1517 network. If you'd like to support 1517, and all the free content they produce for individuals and churches, you can do that here: https://www.1517.org/donate
25 minutes | Apr 27, 2022
Theology of the Body for the Sinner/Saint
We interviewed Kelsi Klembara after she spoke at the recent "Here We Still Stand" Regional Conference in Bentonville, Arkansas. She spoke about the embodiment of our redemption, and how our theology of the body can effect how we view eating disorders, chronic health issues, various health improvement programs and even the body positivity movement. She points to the story of the bleeding woman who touches Jesus' cloak, and brings it all back to Christ. This episode was recorded during the tear-down and hang out time after the conference, and there's a bit more background noise than usual, but the voices come through just fine. It was too good of a conversation to not share. Book referenced: "Wonderfully Made: A Protestant Theology of the Body" By John Kleinig. Kelsi's article on 1517: "Can Body Positivity Overcome Our Bodies of Death?" Want to come to the big national Here We Still Stand Conference in San Diego this fall? Register at https://www.1517.org/events/hwss-2022 Support 1517
26 minutes | Apr 21, 2022
As Gretchen and Katie are traveling to the Here We Still Stand regional conference today, they prepared a special podcast for today, talking about upcoming things, both professionally and personally. They talk about retreats, substitute teaching, working with teenagers, the farm seasons, and more. Most of all, this episode is just for fun--to pull up a coffee with the 2 of us and come sit with us as we talk about life. Support the ministry of 1517 at http://www.1517.org/donate
26 minutes | Apr 14, 2022
Spring, Seasons, and Expectations
It might say "spring" on the calendar, but it doesn't say it yet when you look outside the window. In this episode, Gretchen and Katie talk about anticipating seasons in our lives, as well as looking back with nostalgia--for good or for bad. They talk about the modern expectations in different seasons, the pressure to enjoy every season you are in to the fullest. Join us for the Here We Still Stand Conference in San Diego (if you can't come to Arkansas next week!) Support the ministry of 1517.
24 minutes | Apr 6, 2022
This episode we have Michelle Diercks to talk about her new book "Promised Rest: Finding Peace in God's Presence." This is an 8 week study on the names of God that can be done individually or with a small group. These names of God lead us to a place of peace and rest, especially in times of hardship and anxiety. You can find more about Michelle at her website: https://michellediercks.com You can find all of the 1517 podcasts HERE. Support the ministry of 1517.
23 minutes | Mar 29, 2022
Women at the Resurrection
What was the significance of the women at the tomb? Did they just happen to be in the right place at the right time, or did Jesus intentionally seek them out first? The reason this is important doesn't have as much to do with women exactly, but it goes back to the Garden of Eden and points to the purpose of the resurrection, and what it means for Jesus to break the curse of sin. Don't forget to rate and review our podcast if you have not yet! Both Gretchen and Katie will be hanging out at the "Here We Still Stand" Arkansas Conference. Come hang out with us! Support the ministry of 1517
26 minutes | Mar 23, 2022
Talking about Bruno...
We are sitting down to talk about Bruno, and the other characters in the movie "Encanto." There's several spoilers in this episode, but we wanted to dig into some of the redemptive themes of this movie, as it can be a great starting point to have conversations (even with little ones!) about faith. We talk about how the miracle starts when a life is laid down to save the family. The miracle gifts the family with supernatural gifts for the purpose of blessing the community. But there is trauma involved, and the family feels like they have to keep the miracle strong, and it starts to warp their identity, and their understanding of the free gift. The striving for perfection for the family comes from a place of trauma and fear, and blinds them from understanding the concept of a free gift. Sound familiar? We thought so too. This month we are asking all of our listeners to rate and review our podcast on Apple podcasts, if you have not already. It helps so much. We'd also like to invite you to the Here We Still Stand Regional Conference in Arkansas coming in April. Register HERE! Here is the article Gretchen wrote on Encanto. Support the ministry of 1517.
25 minutes | Mar 16, 2022
Wrestling with God (with Chad Bird)
We asked Chad Bird about what it means to wrestle with God. Later this summer, he's coming out with his book on Jacob: "Limping with God." Our discussion went from Jacob being renamed to "Israel" which means "wrestles with God" and how wrestling with God was a keyhole to the crucifixion. We pivot a bit to the Psalms, where God actually puts bold words in our mouths that we are allowed to say to him, and then move onto Job, who asked God the hard questions, and what God has to say about that. Join us in Arkansas for the Regional Here We Still Stand Conference Chad Bird's books can be found HERE. You can also find him in the podcasts: 40 Minutes in the Old Testament Hidden Streams, devotions on the Psalms. Chad's academy course on "Christ in the Old Testament" (free) Support 1517.
24 minutes | Mar 9, 2022
Proverbs 31 with Chad Bird
We invited Old Testament and Hebrew scholar, Chad Bird, to talk to us about Proverbs 31. This passage talking about a wife of noble character is often discussed in women's Bible studies or events. It's used to inspire, accuse, exhaust, or at least show us some kind of standard that we feel we can never reach. Chad explains how we can look at this text--and other texts, asking the question "what is Christ doing in this passage?" He shares that looking at the Bible through a "moralistic ego-centric" lens leads to legalism, and leads us to ask the wrong questions. He explains how the book of Proverbs points to Christ as "wisdom" and when we see that, it's a key to looking at the whole book. He shares 3 layers or tiers to look at Proverbs 31: it's about Christ, it's about the church (his body), and finally it's about wives. Where is Christ in Proverbs 31? Listen into to this mind blowing episode. You'll never be able to look at Proverbs 31 the same again. Come hear Chad at the Here We Still Stand Regional Conference in Arkansas this April! To hear more about Christ in the Old Testament, we recommend his book "The Christ Key." Support the work of 1517.
23 minutes | Mar 2, 2022
Remembering We Are Dust
We get to hear about the parable of the sower in this episode, as we continue to talk to Daniel Emery Price and Erick Sorensen about their book "Scandalous Stories: a Sort of Commentary on the Parables." In this parable we talk about the way that things grow, the gardener, the seed, and how all of this applies to us (not just some of it.) As Katie is married to an agronomist, and Gretchen is married to a farmer, they give their opinion on the value of dirt, and how God sees its potential. Dan and Erick's podcast: 30 Minutes in the New Testament Come see Dan, Erick, and Gretchen and many others at the 1517 regional conference in Arkansas coming up soon! Register HERE. Support the ministry of 1517.
30 minutes | Feb 24, 2022
Pharisees and Prostitutes
We are talking about the abundance of forgiveness today, with special guests, Daniel Emery Price, and Erick Sorensen from the "30 Minutes in the New Testament" podcast. We are talking about how Jesus tells parables, and what we can learn about confession, forgiveness, and repentence from all of this. This relates a lot on our spiritual friendships, what it is to be accountable to one another, and what are we actually accountable to say? It all comes down to spreading the message of Jesus coming to forgive sinners, and the power that is behind that message to change everything. Dan and Erick's book: "Scandalous Stories: a Sort of Commentary on Parables" Support the ministry of 1517.
25 minutes | Feb 17, 2022
Love and Forgiveness
Gretchen and Katie talk about love and forgiveness, particularly when it comes to marriage. They talk about what forgiveness does and doesn't do, and how forgivness enables us to be our honest selves with our spouse. Forgiveness is something that does not come from inside us, but from God himself. Forgiving is not saying what happened is ok--quite the opposite. It means when we forgive, we are pointing the other person to the work of Christ that is done on their behalf. Sources cited: Seculosity by David Zahl "Grace for When You Can't Forgive" by Gretchen Ronnevik Support the ministry of 1517
20 minutes | Feb 8, 2022
Strategy and Theology
In this episode, Gretchen and Katie discuss their recent interview with Aimee Byrd, and talk about how some of the issue is the "growth mindset" that can sometimes get us targeting certain demographics in order to get your church to grow. It's thinking that if we can get this specific demographic in our church, and pour into them, we will grow. One of the prime symptoms that this is happening to the women in your church is that no one wants to teach the women's Bible study, and no one feels qualified to teach or mentor other women. We talk about ways we can support women teaching other women, and investing in them for the edification of the whole church. If you haven't signed up yet, register for the "Here We Still Stand Regional Conference" in Arkansas this April. If you would like to support the ministry of 1517, you can do so HERE.
27 minutes | Feb 1, 2022
Co-Laborers for the Gospel
This is the end of our conversation with Aimee Byrd to discuss the discipleship of women. We discuss the mixed messages often given to women, that they are a part of the great commission, and yet they should remain quiet. Then there's the different messages in "men's devotional Bibles" and "women's devotional Bibles" that take several passages that refer to both men and women, and make it about just men, or just women, essentially interpreting passages that aren't about manhood or womanhood gender exclusive. Then we discuss the common practice of outsourcing the discipleship of women to parachurch organizations (even outside the denomination) to put a "safety barrier" between the pastor and the women of the church. In the end, it's not about promoting women to leadership positions, or trying to appear inclusive, but it's about making sure the women are getting the same gospel--and the same access to discipleship that the men are getting, so that the whole church- the united co-laborers for the gospel moving in the same direction in the great commission. If you would love to support the ministry of 1517, you can partner with us at www.1517.org/donate Also, Gretchen will be at the Here We Still Stand Regional Event in Arkansas, not speaking, but just there to hang out! If you would like to come hang out, and listen to some amazing speakers on the topic of sinners/saints, you can register here: https://www.1517.org/events/hwss-regional-event-in-bentonville-arkansas
28 minutes | Jan 24, 2022
Equipping Women in Theology with Aimee Byrd
We have special guest, Aimee Byrd, on today to talk about her journey in being a woman who studies theology. She shares the purpose on each of her books and how they build off of one another, leading up to her most recent book that we are discussing today on Biblical manhood and womanhood. Aimee wanted to be a godly wife, and a godly mother, and read everything that was available to equip herself in that endeavor. When red flags started coming up, and terms were being defined by cultural instead of the Bible, she dismissed them for awhile in an effort to be the "most godly" wife and mother. It wasn't until she started studying theology that she looks back on those resources and realized there are some large errors we fall into when we fix women's eyes on their ability to uphold their gender's stereotypes to the upmost, instead of fixing their eyes on Christ. In the end, she talks about how Jesus had theological conversations with women, and what she learned from that.
29 minutes | Jan 19, 2022
Titus 2 in the Context of Christ
In one more episode before our interview, we wanted to go over Titus 2, which is often the prooftext given for the false idea that men and women are sanctified differently. This episode could fit both in our discussion of womanhood in the Bible, as well as verses frequently taken out of context. The misunderstanding in this passage comes when we start reading only when it references women. We must go back further, where the context is teaching sound doctrine. This episode dips into Gretchen's online course on "Gospel Mentoring" which looks at this passage within the context of law and gospel distinctions, and the gets to the heart of sharing the gospel with the next generation. Link to Gospel mentoring: www.gospelmentoring.com Support the ministry and podcast network of 1517
27 minutes | Jan 13, 2022
Womanhood and the Gospel
In this episode we introduce the topic of gender in regard to justification and sanctification. In other words, women aren't saved any differently than men. It was revolutionary back in New Testament times and in some circumstances, it's still revolutionary today. Gretchen and Katie talk who both love and work in women's ministry, talk about the confusion that comes when that theology is tweaked so slightly so that sanctification is no longer defined as being conformed to the image of God, but men are conformed to act more masculine, and women are conformed to act more feminine. In this tweaked theology, men can comfortably be conformed to the image of Christ--another man. Women are conformed to...some Biblical heroine perhaps. Male and female are both very good. But sanctification, like justification, isn't a gendered issue. There is not a male version of justification, and a female version of justification, and the same goes for sanctification. Mankind--both male and female, are conformed to the image of God. While God has laws that are particular to both men and women, God's gospel is not directed at a specific gender. What this discussion essentially boils down to is the practice and difficulties of discipleship of women within the church. This tender episode introduces the heart of the issue--are women in churches getting the meat of the gospel, and is this simply a women's issue?
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