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For the Defense with David Oscar Markus

29 Episodes

57 minutes | May 31, 2022
Barry Pollack for Ric Blake (Chicken Antitrust)
DOJ’s antitrust division has gotten crazy aggressive in recent months, bringing criminal cases with new theories never tested before in federal court. These new cases haven’t done well, however. In a recent case alleging that 10 defendants agreed to fix prices for chicken, all defendants proceeded to trial. The jury hung as to all the defendants. In trial number 2, yet again the jury hung. Should the government get a third chance? The head of the antitrust division says yes because he is not part of “chicken shit club.” In this bonus episode, David Oscar Markus discusses these two lengthy trials as well as DOJ’s aggressive tactics with Barry Pollack, one of the nation’s top trial lawyers, who tried the first two cases.
55 minutes | Mar 29, 2022
Ed Shohat for Carlos Lehder
The 1980s was the wild west of drug trials. And there was no bigger cocaine cowboy than Carlos Lehder, who co-founded the Medellin Cartel. Lehder turned to Edward Shohat to represent him in a 7-month trial in which the prosecutor, nicknamed Mad Dog, called 29 snitches. In this episode, the finale of Season 4, David Oscar Markus takes Ed through the sprawling trial and the crazy turn of events after the trial ends. 
83 minutes | Mar 15, 2022
John Gleeson for the Holloway Project
John Gleeson has done it all. He’s been a federal prosecutor. A federal judge. And now he’s a criminal defense lawyer. Having seen the injustices in the criminal justice system, Gleeson started the Holloway project in which he and a team of lawyers are trying to free defendants who have been crushed by the system and minimum mandatory sentences. In fact, Holloway himself was a defendant that Gleeson sentenced when he was a judge. Gleeson and David Oscar Markus discuss this project, prosecuting John Gotti (who was represented by Albert Krieger), presiding over the Wolf of Wall Street case, and other fascinating stories.
82 minutes | Mar 1, 2022
Brian Heberlig for Ali Sadr
There's prosecutorial misconduct and then there's what happened in the case of Ali Sadr in the Southern District of New York. Sadr's lawyer, Brian Heberlig, sits down with David Oscar Markus at his White Collar Law seminar at the University of Miami School of Law to discuss the absolutely insane misconduct committed by federal prosecutors in this trial and what -- if anything -- can be done about it. 
43 minutes | Feb 15, 2022
Geoffrey Fieger for Dr. Jack Kevorkian
Dr. Jack Kevorkian, also known as Dr. Death, was the center of debate at every dinner table – should a doctor be permitted to assist a patient in committing suicide if that’s what the patient wanted because of excruciating pain and a terminal illness. Prosecutors in Michigan said no and went after Dr. Kevorkian, who turned to Geoffrey Fieger to represent him. Fieger sits down with David Oscar Markus to discuss the fascinating criminal cases and the moral implications of Kevorkian’s actions. 
38 minutes | Feb 1, 2022
Gerry Goldstein for "Deep Throat"
Back in the 1970s, prosecutors started to go after what they deemed to be “obscene.” They went absolutely crazy when the movie Deep Throat was released. So they decided to arrest the projectionist, Richard Dexter, to send a message. Gerry Goldstein was a young firebrand lawyer who took on the case to trial and even all the way to the Supreme Court. Listen to him discuss all the twists and turns of the defense with host David Oscar Markus. 
61 minutes | Jan 18, 2022
Juanita Brooks for John DeLorean
Everyone knows of DeLorean cars, which were made famous in Back to the Future. What folks may not know is that the car's namesake -- John DeLorean -- was charged in two different federal cases in the 1980s. In one case in Detroit, he was charged with racketeering and embezzlement. Enter Juanita Brooks, who was one of the few women criminal defense lawyers to have her own practice at the time. Juanita is now known as the "jury whisperer" for her ability to convince jurors even in the most difficult cases. She did so here as well. Check out her strategies in jury selection through cross examination through closing argument as she discusses the case with fellow criminal defense lawyer David Oscar Markus.
43 minutes | Jan 4, 2022
Mark Geragos for Susan McDougal
Mark Geragos, trial lawyer and fellow podcaster, discusses the Susan McDougal trials with host David Oscar Markus. In the 90's, Ken Starr was pursuing Bill Clinton. And anyone who got in Starr's way became a target. This included Susan McDougal, who refused to testify against Clinton because she believed that Starr was pressuring her to lie. Enter Mark Geragos, who was thrust onto the national stage with back to back trials involving McDougal -- one in state court in Santa Monica and one in federal court in Little Rock, Arkansas. The California case involved allegations of embezzlement from a famous conductor and his wife. But many believed that Starr was using this case as pressure to get McDougal to fold in the federal case. He miscalculated both McDougal and Geragos, who proceeded to trial in both cases, and won. Enjoy the discussion between two real trial lawyers -- Geragos and host David Oscar Markus -- who discuss the enormous risks clients face when taking on the government and their strategic decisions along the way.
46 minutes | Dec 21, 2021
Bruce Rogow for Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew
Season 4 of For the Defense premieres with Bruce Rogow who sits down with David Oscar Markus to discuss the groundbreaking criminal trial against 2 Live Crew and its front man Luther Campbell. Bruce Rogow discusses the 2 Live Crew case, an only in South Florida story in which a rap band was prosecuted because of its dirty lyrics.  Rogow and David Oscar Markus get into the backstory of the case, how it put 2 Live Crew on the map, and how Rogow ultimately defended 2 Live Crew in the Supreme Court on another matter. Cardi B and other megastars have recently thanked 2 Live Crew for paving the way on the First Amendment's protection of their songs.
77 minutes | Aug 17, 2021
Billy Corben and Alfred Spellman on Willy & Sal
The trials and tribulations of Willy Falcon and Salvador Magluta are the stuff of legal legend in Miami. Billy Corben and Alfred Spellman of http:///www.rakontur.com (rakontur) are the producers of https://www.netflix.com/title/80996810 (Cocaine Cowboys: The Kings of Miami), a six-part documentary miniseries that recently premiered on Netflix. The filmmakers join David Markus on For the Defense to discuss the rise and fall of “Los Muchachos,” the behind the scenes making of the series, and the prosecutors and defense lawyers who appeared on the show.
72 minutes | Jul 20, 2021
Judge William Pryor
Eleventh Circuit Chief Judge William H. Pryor joins David Oscar Markus on the Finale of Season Three of For the Defense.  Judge Pryor brings a totally different perspective to the show, as he is the former Attorney General of Alabama, is on the conservative wing of the Eleventh Circuit, and even made President Trump's short list for the United States Supreme Court. Please join David and Judge Pryor in this engaging, back and forth discussion about the criminal justice system.
70 minutes | Jul 13, 2021
Judge Robin Rosenbaum
Eleventh Circuit Judge Robin Rosenbaum joins David Oscar Markus in this mini-season of judges in For the Defense. Judge Rosenbaum has a unique perspective on the criminal justice system as she has been a federal prosecutor, a magistrate judge, a district judge, and now an appellate judge. As a member of the more liberal wing of a court that is predominantly conservative, Judge Rosenbaum will also discuss the dynamics of appellate decision-making, reaching consensus, civility, and writing.
66 minutes | Jul 6, 2021
Judge Charles Breyer
Northern District of California Judge Charles Breyer joins David Oscar Markus in the premiere episode of Season 3 of For the Defense to discuss how the criminal justice system works from the perspective of a federal trial judge. In this mini-season, David will speak to three judges, including Breyer, the younger (and much cooler!) brother of Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, and two 11th Circuit Court of Appeals judges -- Robin Rosenbaum and William Pryor. These follow up on the well-received bonus episode with SDNY Judge Jed Rakoff.
60 minutes | Apr 13, 2021
Judge Jed Rakoff
Southern District of New York Judge Jed Rakoff has been a prosecutor, a defense lawyer, and a federal judge, so he has a unique perspective of the criminal justice system. He has written a fascinating book about the system and its issues. In this bonus episode, David Oscar Markus discusses some of the main problems with the system and how to fix them. 
79 minutes | Mar 16, 2021
Michael Tigar for Terry Nichols
The Oklahoma City Bombing is one of the deadliest domestic terrorism cases in U.S. history and it struck right at the heart of the criminal justice system. Would anyone represent Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols? Not only did Nichols get a lawyer, he got one of the very best in history, Michael Tigar.  Tigar is a renowned trial lawyer, appellate lawyer, scholar, and author. His memoir, https://nyupress.org/9781583679227/sensing-injustice/ (Sensing Injustice), is a must read.  Also featured in this episode is original music by Omondi Nyong’o, A Call to Arms. His music can be found at http://www.omotionmusic.com/ (www.omotionmusic.com).  Finally, if you are a Florida lawyer and have listened to all of Season 2, there is a CLE course code at the end of the episode. Thanks for listening to Season 2. 
85 minutes | Mar 9, 2021
David Gerger for Robert Kaluza (Deepwater Horizon)
The Deepwater Horizon explosion was arguably the worst environmental disaster in United States history.  In its effort to assign blame, the government scapegoated an innocent man - Robert Kaluza, the off-duty rig supervisor who was filling in for a few days. David Gerger discusses his successful defense with David Markus in this episode of For the Defense.
58 minutes | Mar 2, 2021
Abbe Lowell for Sen. John Edwards
Senator John Edwards was a rising star in the Democratic party. He was a popular senator from North Carolina. He was John Kerry’s running mate in 2004 and then a presidential candidate in 2008. But he was also a flawed candidate as he was having an affair while his wife was dying from cancer and while he was campaigning for the highest office in the land. Was the cover up of the affair and Rielle Hunter’s pregnancy a federal crime or simply a sin? You’ll hear David Markus discuss the fascinating federal trial with famed criminal defense lawyer Abbe Lowell, who successfully defended Edwards.
55 minutes | Feb 23, 2021
Jayne Weintraub for Yahweh Ben Yahweh
Yahweh Ben Yahweh had been convicted in federal court of conspiracy and sentenced to 17 years. But that was not enough for prosecutors who viewed him as an evil cult leader who ordered gruesome murders in South Florida. So they charged him with first degree murder in state court. The case involved tales of beheadings, cutting people's ears, and even a Temple of Love. Jayne Weintraub took over the defense and won.
72 minutes | Feb 16, 2021
Rob Cary for Sen. Ted Stevens
Senator Ted Stevens was charged in federal court right before his election. He turned the famed criminal defense firm of Williams & Connolly to defend him. Rob Cary, who tried the case with Brendan Sullivan, discusses defending a well-known political figure at trial and also what turned into one of the biggest cases of prosecutorial misconduct in this Nation's history. 
63 minutes | Feb 9, 2021
Ron Sullivan for Aaron Hernandez
Harvard Law Professor Ron Sullivan has spent his career teaching trial advocacy. In this episode of For the Defense, he shares with David Oscar Markus the techniques he used in defending NFL star Aaron Hernandez in his second murder trial. No one thought the case was winnable after Hernandez has previously been found guilty of another murder. That's when true defenders like Sullivan shine. 
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