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56 minutes | 7 days ago
Welcome to the New Christian Minority
Disciple Up #206 Welcome to the New Christian Minority By Louie Marsh, 4-7-2021 Articles Referred to or Read: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/march/gallup-church-membership-decline-minority-nones-us.html https://www.christianpost.com/news/1-in-5-churches-face-closure-within-18-months-due-to-covid-19-shutdowns-barna-president.html http://democracyweb.org/majority-rule-principles https://religionnews.com/2021/03/24/the-nones-are-growing-and-growing-more-diverse/
58 minutes | 14 days ago
Christians & Cohabitation
Disciple Up # 205 Christians & Cohabitation By Louie Marsh, 3-31-2021 Article I read from: https://tipsyredfox.com/news/2021/03/22/the-cohabitation-dilemma-comes-for-americas-pastors/ At least three ways to look at marriage: Legal Traditional Biblical 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. Gen. 2:22 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. Ephesians 5:25-27 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Eph. 5:32-33
39 minutes | 21 days ago
Greater Than - Jesus the Greatest of All Time!
Disciple Up #204 Greater Than – Jesus the Greatest of All Time! By Louie Marsh, 3-23-2021 “1Therefore, holy brothers, you who share in a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, 2who was faithful to him who appointed him, just as Moses also was faithful in all God’s house. 3For Jesus has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses—as much more glory as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself. 4(For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.) 5Now Moses was faithful in all God’s house as a servant, to testify to the things that were to be spoken later, 6but Christ is faithful over God’s house as a son. And we are his house, if indeed we hold fast our confidence and our boasting in our hope.” (Hebrews 3:1–6, ESV) Partakers (μετοχοι [metochoi]). See Luke 5:7 for “partners” in the fishing, elsewhere in N. T. only in Hebrews (1:9; 6:4; 12:8) in N. T. Of a heavenly calling (κλησεως ἐπουρανιου [klēseōs epouraniou]). Only here in the N. T., though same idea in 9:15. See ἡ ἀνω κλησις [hē anō klēsis] in Phil. 3:14 (the upward calling) - Robertson, A. T. (1933). Word Pictures in the New Testament (Heb 3:1). Nashville, TN: Broadman Press. Consider (κατανοησατε [katanoēsate]). First aorist active imperative of κατανοεω [katanoeō], old compound verb (κατα, νους [kata, nous]), to put the mind down on a thing, to fix the mind on as in Matt. 7:3 and Luke 12:24. - Robertson, A. T. (1933). Word Pictures in the New Testament (Heb 3:1). Nashville, TN: Broadman Press. The apostle and high priest (τὸν ἀπόστολον καὶ ἀρχιερέα). In calling Jesus apostle, the writer is thinking of Moses as one sent by God to lead Israel to Canaan. Comp. LXX, where ἀποστέλλειν to send is often used of Moses. See Ex. 3–7. Often of Jesus - Vincent, M. R. (1887). Word studies in the New Testament (Vol. 4, p. 410). New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons. The Apostle and High Priest of our confession (τον ἀποστολον και ἀρχιερεα της ὁμολογιας ἡμων [ton apostolon kai archierea tēs homologias hēmōn]). In descriptive apposition with Ἰησουν [Iēsoun] and note the single article τον [ton]. This is the only time in the N. T. that Jesus is called ἀποστολος [apostolos], though he often used ἀποστελλω [apostellō] of God’s sending him forth as in John 17:3 (ἀπεστειλας [apesteilas]). This verb is used of Moses as sent by God (Ex. 3:10). Moffatt notes that ἀποστολος [apostolos] is Ionic for πρεσβευτης [presbeutēs], “not a mere envoy, but an ambassador or representative sent with powers.” - Robertson, A. T. (1933). Word Pictures in the New Testament (Heb 3:1). Nashville, TN: Broadman Press.
48 minutes | a month ago
A Disciple’s Identity, Pt. 6; A Singular Heart
Disciple Up # 203 A Disciple’s Identity, Pt. 6; A Singular Heart By Louie Marsh, 3-15-2021 Intro. A quiet week – windy day as I record – sorry! My YouTube Wargaming Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGrYPesAp1eiXgGRjfxnQw Other episodes in this series: Part 1: #185. Part 2: #188, Part 3: #193, Part 4: #197, Part 5: #199 8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Matthew 5:8 (ESV) Blessed are those whose thoughts are pure. They will see God. - GOD’S WORD Translation. 8 ‘Happy the clean in heart—because they shall see God. Young, R. (1997). Young’s Literal Translation 1) What does it mean to be pure in heart? Pure = SINGLENESS, ONE THING. καθαρὸς τῇ καρδία - Greek Pure- Katharos - cathartic, cleansing, “the purging of the emotions or relieving of emotional tensions” – Dictionary.com Hebrew - bar lebab - בַּר לֵבָב 4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24:4 (ESV) Not being PERFECTor a goody-two-shoes, holier than thou, etc. The History of Little Goody Two-Shoes is a children's story published by John Newbery in London in 1765. The story popularized the phrase "goody two-shoes" as a descriptor for a person or do-gooder who constantly virtue signals. Goody Two-Shoes is a variation of the Cinderella story. The fable tells of Goody Two-Shoes, the nickname of a poor orphan girl named Margery Meanwell, who goes through life with only one shoe. When a rich gentleman gives her a complete pair, she is so happy that she tells everyone that she has "two shoes". Later, Margery becomes a teacher and marries a rich widower. This earning of wealth serves as proof that her virtue has been rewarded, a popular theme in children's literature of the era. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Little_Goody_Two-Shoes Heart is the center or CORE OF MY BEING, the center of my soul. Pure in heart = singleness of heart– living for an AUDIENCE OF ONE http://www.parkerliveonline.com/2021/03/12/column-pastor-louie-gets-the-vaccine/ singleness of heart, the honesty which has no hidden motive, no selfish interest, and is true and open in all things “2looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.” (Hebrews 12:2, ESV) 2) When & how do I see God? When Christ returns or I die then I’ll see Him. 2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 (ESV) Being focused on Jesus I SEE HIMworking in my life. 27 Indeed he was ill, near to death. But God had mercy on him, and not only on him but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. Philippians 2:27 (ESV) 8 For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. Galatians 2:8 (NIV)
54 minutes | a month ago
Do I Have a Soul Or Am I a Soul?
Disciple Up Episode 202 Do I Have a Soul or Am I a Soul? Louie Marsh, 3-10-2021 Intro: This episode sparked by an e-mail from a listener named John, who wrote: Please check out my biggest and best book – Everyday in the Spirit - https://tinyurl.com/3fct42zn I was listening to a podcast called "The Bible Project" and the guys on there bring up a point about the word in Hebrew that is translated into English as "soul" doesn't really mean what we think. They say we are translating it wrong and that we don't have a soul if you translate the word correctly it means the throat. The gateway to your innermost part of your body. I am confused about what that means as far as if I go to heaven or not when I die or what Great question and indicative of a lot of what some people are saying these days about the soul and after life. So on this episode we’re going to dive in and check out what some scholars say about this and how in the end the Bible Project guys and I agree, but we disagree with how to get there. Link are in the show notes to what I’ll be referencing as well as a link to the Bible Project so you can listen and decide for yourself. Links: Exegetical Fallacies by D.A. Carson, Baker Books - https://tinyurl.com/25635e3z Commentary on the Old Testament by Keil-Delitzch, - https://tinyurl.com/pbdyyach The Bible Project; https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-bible-project Bible Project Episode Description (bold & underlining is mine) You Are A Soul This is our first episode related to our new word studies video on the Hebrew word “Nephesh” which often gets translated as “soul” in English bibles. In Hebrew the most basic meaning of the word is “throat.” Which seems weird to us. So how did we get “soul” from “throat”? Tim and Jon discuss. In the first part of the episode (0-12:30), Tim and Jon outline where the word “soul” comes from (Old English), and why most people think that a core teaching of the Bible is people “having souls.” Jon asks how much you can really separate the ideas of a person’s “mind, soul, and body.” In the second part of the episode (12:30-41:20), Tim explains that the Hebrew word “Nephesh” is an extremely common word in the Hebrew Old Testament. It occurs over 700 times, but less than 10% of the time is it translated as “soul.” It also gets translated as “life”, “heart”, “you”, “people” and several other words. Tim outlines some famous verses in the Old Testament that use the word soul. Like Psalm 42 “ As the deer pants...My soul thirsts for you” the original meaning is Hebrew is “my throat thirsts for you.” Tim explains that the word Nephesh is designed to show the essential physicality of a person. Whereas “soul” connotes the non-physicality of a person. In the third part of the episode (41:20-end), Tim says “Nephesh” isn’t just used to describe humans, but also used to describe animals and what the land produced in Genesis. “And God said ‘Let the waters teem with living Nephesh.’” The bottom line, biblically, is that people don’t have souls. They are souls. They don’t have “nephesh” they are “nephesh.” And the ultimate hope for Christians is not a disembodied existence living as souls, but an embodied existence living in their Nephesh. Thank you to all our supporters! Check out more free resources on our website: www.thebibleproject.com Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary. Hebrew Word: נֶפֶשׁ Transliteration: nepesh Phonetic Pronunciation: neh'-fesh Usage Notes: English Words used in KJV: soul 475 life 117 person 29 mind 15 heart 15 creature 9 body 8 himself 8 yourselves 6 dead 5 will 4 desire 4 man 3 themselves 3 any 3 appetite 2 miscellaneous translations 47 [Total Count: 753] from (naphash); properly a breathing creature, i.e. animal or (abstract) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental) :- any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, × dead (-ly), desire, × [dis-] contented, × fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, × jeopardy of) life (× in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (× she) will, × would have it. Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old Testament and New Testament Words. Life Usage Number: 1 Part Of Speech: Noun Strong's Number: Original Word: נֶפֶשׁ, nepesh Usage Notes: "soul; self; life; person; heart." This is a very common term in both ancient and modern Semitic languages. It occurs over 780 times in the Old Testament and is evenly distributed in all periods of the text with a particularly high frequency in poetic passages. The basic meaning is apparently related to the rare verbal form, nāpash. The noun refers to the essence of life, the act of breathing, taking breath. However, from that concrete concept, a number of more abstract meanings were developed. In its primary sense the noun appears in its first occurrence in Gen. 1:20: "the moving creature that hath life," and in its second occurrence in Gen. 2:7: "living soul." However, in over 400 later occurrences it is translated "soul." While this serves to make sense in most passages, it is an unfortunate mistranslation of the term. The real difficulty of the term is seen in the inability of almost all English translations to find a consistent equivalent or even a small group of high-frequency equivalents for the term. The kjv alone uses over 28 different English terms for this one Hebrew word. The problem with the English term "soul" is that no actual equivalent of the term or the idea behind it is represented in the Hebrew language. The Hebrew system of thought does not include the combination or opposition of the terms "body" and "soul," which are really Greek and Latin in origin. The Hebrew contrasts two other concepts which are not found in the Greek and Latin tradition: "the inner self" and "the outer appearance" or, as viewed in a different context, "what one is to oneself" as opposed to "what one appears to be to one's observers." The inner person is nepesh, while the outer person, or reputation, is shēm, most commonly translated "name." In narrative or historical passages of the Old Testament, nepesh can be translated as "life" or "self," as in Lev. 17:11: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for [yourselves]…." Needless to say, the reading "soul" is meaningless in such a text. But the situation in the numerous parallel poetic passages in which the term appears is much more difficult. The Greek Septuagint and the Latin Vulgate both simply use the Greek and Latin equivalent "soul," especially in the Psalms. The first occurrence is in Psa. 3:2: "Many are saying of my soul, There is no deliverance for him in God" (nasb). The next occurrence is in Psa. 6:3: "And my soul is greatly dismayed; But Thou, O Lord, how long?" (nasb). In both passages the parallel contrast is between nepesh and some aspect of the self, expressed as "him" in Psa. 3:2 and not expressed but understood in Psa. 6:3. There is no distinction as to whether it appears as an "A" or "B" word in the parallelism. However, since Hebrew rejects repeating the same noun in both halves of a poetic line, nepesh is often used as the parallel for the speaker, primary personal subject, and even for God, as in Psa. 11:5: "The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence [he himself] hateth." Such passages are frequent, and a proper understanding of the word enlightens many well-known passages, such as Psa. 119:109: "My life is continually in my hand, Yet I do not forget Thy law" (nasb). The versions vary widely in their readings of nepesh, with the more contemporary versions casting widely for meanings. Usage Number: 2 Part Of Speech: Verb Original Word: נָפַשׁ, nāpash Usage Notes:Nāpash means "to breathe; respire; be refreshed." This verb, which is apparently related to the noun nepesh, appears 3 times in the Old Testament (Exod. 23:12; Exod. 31:17). The other appearance is in 2 Sam. 16:14: "And the king, and all the people that were with him, came weary, and refreshed themselves there." Genesis 2:7 “7then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.” (Genesis 2:7, ESV) “7Then the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the earth and blew the breath of life into his nostrils. The man became a living being.” (Genesis 2:7, GW) “7And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7, ASV 1901) “7Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.” (Genesis 2:7, NASB95) “7And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7, KJV 1900) “7And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.” (Genesis 2:7, NKJV) “7God formed Man out of dirt from the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life. The Man came alive—a living soul!” (Genesis 2:7, The Message) Psalm 42:1-2 Terrible suggested translation: Like Psalm 42 “ As the deer pants...My soul thirsts for you” the original meaning is Hebrew is “my throat thirsts for you.” “1As a deer pants for flowing streams, so pants my soul for you, O God. 2My soul thirsts for God, for the living God. When shall I come and appear before God?” (Psalm 42:1–2, ESV) The Root Fallacy: (D.A. Carson) Soul – GW, NASB, YLT, NIV, KJV, ASV, Darby, I – HCSB, NLT, LB, The Message, Vol. 5, Page 55: “The poet compares the thirsting of his soul after God to the thirsting of a stag.” Aside from the root fallacy there’s the fact this is a metaphor. The writer is comparing a deer’s thirst for water need to survive with his soul’s (self, inner person, etc.) need for God. The physical is contrasted with the spiritual. Literally it was never intended as “throat,” That’s horrible and reflects a misunderstanding of metaphor and language as well. BOTTOM LINE: My soul is saved because I am saved! In the end I’ll be reunited with my body, but that body will be changed. The bottom line, biblically, is that people don’t have souls. They are souls. They don’t have “nephesh” they are “nephesh.” “42So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. 43It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. 44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual.” (1 Corinthians 15:42–46, ESV) So yes, you ARE a soul who inhabits a body and in the end Christ will redeem both!
48 minutes | a month ago
Disciple Up # 201 Christian Skepticism By Louie Marsh, 3-3-2021 Intro. Where this came from – the forbidden episode?? This episode came from two Mike Rowe posts on his FaceBook page and a lot of things that have been rattling around in my head from nearly day one. Because let’s face it – Hello my name is Louie and I’m a skeptic, and I don’t think I’ll ever recover or want too! Define the Term: skepticism noun skep·ti·cism | \ ˈskep-tə-ˌsi-zəm \ Definition of skepticism 1: an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object 2a: the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain b: the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics 3: doubt concerning basic religious principles (such as immortality, providence, and revelation) Basic Premise: We All Need to Be Christian Skeptics! “…certainty and truth have nothing to do with each other, and credibility is a very fragile thing.” – Mike Rowe “16“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. 17Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues, 18and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles. 19When they deliver you over, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say, for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour.” (Matthew 10:16–19, ESV) “24But Jesus on his part did not entrust himself to them, because he knew all people” (John 2:24, ESV) “20Do not despise prophecies, 21but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22Abstain from every form of evil.” (1 Thessalonians 5:20–22, ESV) “1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.” (1 John 4:1–3, ESV) “10The brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived they went into the Jewish synagogue. 11Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.” (Acts 17:10–11, ESV) Links In This Episode: https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe His February 26th and March 2nd posts.
50 minutes | 2 months ago
Looking Back To Look Forward
Disciple Up #200 Looking Back To Look Forward By Louie Marsh, 2-24-2021 Intro – Open, then play opening of episode #1. The Value of History – a Christian view of history – watching God and man act, as God slowly works out his plan for the age in spite of our sin and folly. First Episode Discussion of the word Disciple DISCIPLE (1) Usually a substantive (μαθητής, mathētés, "a learner," from manthánō, "to learn"; Latin discipulus, "a scholar"): The word is found in the Bible only in the Gospels and Acts. But it is good Greek, in use from Herodotus down, and always means the pupil of someone, in contrast to the master or teacher In all cases it implies that the person not only accepts the views of the teacher, but that he is also in practice an adherent. A disciple is a “follower,” someone who adheres completely to the teachings of another, making them his rule of life and conduct. The word has several applications. In the widest sense it refers to those who accept the teachings of anyone, not only in belief but in life. Thus the disciples of John the Baptist (Matthew 9:14; Luke 7:18; John 3:25); also of the Pharisees (Matthew 22:16; Mark 2:18; Luke 5:33); of Moses (John 9:28). But its most common use is to designate the adherents of Jesus. (a) In the widest sense (Matthew 10:42; Luke 6:17; John 6:66, and often). “42And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”” (Matthew 10:42, ESV) It is the only name for Christ's followers in the Gospels. But (b) especially the Twelve Apostles, even when they are called simply the disciples (Matthew 10:1; Matthew 11:1; Matthew 12:1, et al.). In the Acts, after the death and ascension of Jesus, disciples are those who confess Him as the Messiah, Christians (Acts 6:1-2, 7; Acts 9:36 (feminine, mathétria); Acts 11:26, "The disciples were called Christians"). Even half-instructed believers who had been baptized only with the baptism of John are disciples (Acts 19:1-4). The disciple of Christ today may be described in the words of Farrar, as "one who believes His doctrines, rests upon His sacrifice, imbibes His spirit, and imitates His example." Jesus used the term disciple but never Christian. The first instance of the word Christian is found in the book of Acts: “The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch” (Acts 11:26). Most Bible scholars agree that it is unlikely that the believers themselves thought up the name “Christians.” The early church had other names for themselves, such as “disciples” (Acts 13:52; 20:1; 21:4) and “saints” (Romans 1:7; 1 Corinthians 16:1; Ephesians 1:1) and “brothers” (1 Corinthians 1:9; 1 Peter 3:8). The name “Christian,” meaning “belonging to Christ,” appears to have been invented by those outside of the church. It was most likely meant as a derogatory term. Only two other times does the word appear in the New Testament (Acts 26:28; 1 Peter 4:16). The idea that the term Christian was originally a pejorative finds some support in 1 Peter 4:16: “However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.” Thoughts on: Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ What does this mean to me? What does this mean to my listeners? How can I improve on this – how can I communicate this better? THE “DISCIPLE UP LOW DOWN” From Ep. 1 The Low Down on the “Christian Ghetto.” When it comes to engaging culture as a Disciple or followers of Jesus there’s several errors that we see over and over again in church history. You can sum them up in three words – Capitulation, Isolation, Communication. Capitulation. This is probably the most common response of the church to culture. It’s common because it’s unconscious. We are so absorbed by our culture that we don’t even see how we are surrendering the Gospel to the culture. You can see this in the church of the south that taught slavery for blacks was God’s will. You can see it in the churches in Germany who supported Hitler. Today we see this in churches that almost automatically accept and seek to advance whatever the cause of the moment is. From women’s lib to ecology all the way to gay marriage it’s most common in theologically liberal churches but can be seen everywhere as well. Isolation is the exact opposite of Capitulation. This occurred quickly in church history. All the monks and people who fled into the desert to live alone or in a small community are examples of this. All of the pole sitting monks – like Simon the Stylite (now a saint in the Catholic church) who lived on top of a pole for decades. They were known as Pillar Saints and were deemed holy because they disengaged from their culture as much as possible. Ironically in so doing they created their own culture of asceticism. Links on this in the show notes on Discipleup.org. Isolation comes in degrees of course. There aren’t many people who can completely disengage and live in a monastery. But we can create a subculture within our own and that’s exactly what we do. We have Christian versions of just about any business you can think of. From Christian music, books and movies, to Christian stores, people are pressured to only partake of those and shun all the bad stuff the world is putting out. Steve Taylor captured this brilliantly in his song, “Guilty By Association” on his Meltdown album way back in 1984 – when they still made albums by the way - when he said… “Only drink milk from a Christian Cow”… what else can I say to that but halle-moooo-yah! Links to Steve’s music are in the show notes at discipleup.org. My name for this is the Christian Ghetto. By cutting ourselves off from the culture we make it all but impossible to obey Christ’s commands to “make disciples.” Now you might respond, “Hey if we build it they will come.” I say not only is that unscriptural but it’s been tried for centuries and has failed for centuries as well! And then there’s communication. This of course is what we’re supposed to be doing. Being in the world but not of it. Engaging our culture, understand and taking part in it when and where we can with a clear conscience. Being light in the ever increasing darkness instead of hiding our light under a basket that’s hidden inside our little Christian Ghetto. Communication is rare because it’s hard and complicated. We won’t always agree with each other about what we should be doing. How do we show our world that God loves them but does not approve of what they do? We must engage and engage with them in way that they find meaningful. If that makes us feel uncomfortable then that’s the price we must pay to really love the world that way Jesus does. The incarnation and redemption on the cross was anything but comfortable or acceptable for that matter. If we really are followers of Jesus then we must be willing to go to any length to, in the words of an old hymn, “Rescue the perishing, care for the dying, Jesus is merciful, Jesus will save.” In the end engaging the culture isn’t about the culture or you and me at all. It’s all about them, those outside of Christ. They are ones we must bring to Jesus. Their souls are what’s at stake. We cannot and will not be able to do that if we choose to remain safe, sound and comfortable in our little Christian Ghettos. So disciple – are you willing to Disciple Up, what are you willing to do to rescue the perishing? And that’s my Disciple Up Low Down on the Christian Ghetto. Let me know what you think by e-mailing me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
50 minutes | 2 months ago
Mercy, Tolerance & a Loss of Focus
Disciple Up # 199 Mercy, Tolerance & the Loss of Focus By Louie Marsh, 2-17-2021 7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. Matthew 5:7 (ESV) Synonyms for merciful according to Thesarus.com: Charitable, compassionate, forgiving, gracious, humane, lenient, beneficent, bleeding heart, indulgent, liberal, softhearted, tenderhearted, tolerant. To Stay focused I must think MATURELY. “20Brothers, do not be children in your thinking. Be infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature.” (1 Corinthians 14:20, ESV) “8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. 9For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8–9, ESV) Three Ways Not to Think: Tribally Emotionally Faddishly 3) I need to learn how to think BIBLICALLY. God calls disciples to think Biblically not culturally and not to simply follow my feelings or to go by my instincts. No, God calls all disciples to think clearly, critically (I mean analytically not to be critical of others). 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 (ESV) Our first impulse should not be to either accept or reject but to test! Word test here is one of Paul’s favorites. It was used of testing coins or metals in order to see whether they were genuine and of full weight. Test everything – especially things that make me feel good while sending me off in a slightly different direction in life. This kind of testing, comparing everything to Scripture – needs to become a deeply ingrained habit that the disciple does automatically! 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1 (ESV) I become merciful through Jesus’ GIFT OF MERCY. 7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. Matthew 5:7 (ESV) God is angry at my sin (so I need mercy) because he’s a God of love, not because he isn’t. 18 Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. Micah 7:18 (NIV) I don’t want to accept this because I’ll lose control of my life. 16 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16 (ESV) You will never feel accepted till you know you are accepted at your worse. I admit I’m dying for acceptance – unconditional acceptance – that can come only from God. I give the mercy I received from Jesus but do not deserve to others because I know I don’t deserve it. 4)I FREELY GIVE to others the mercy I receive but do not deserve from Jesus 7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. Matthew 5:7 (ESV) Shyness and bragging are both gone.
56 minutes | 2 months ago
The Christian Faith & Freedom
Disciple Up # 198 The Christian Faith & Freedom By Louie Marsh, 2-10-2021 Articles Quoted in this Episode: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2016/09/17405/ https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/chuck-colson/weve-been-lied-christians-not-enlightenment-invented-modern-science What About Myanmar (Burma)? What Does the Bible Say About This? Not much. What the New Testament has to say about Government isn’t a lot. The main passage on this topic, fittingly enough, is in the book of Romans. Paul, writing to Christians in the capital city of the Empire, talks for a bit about what Government is for, why God wants it and what our attitude towards it should be. “1Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.” (Romans 13:1–7, ESV) Notice that Paul says government exists to establish justice, punish wrong doers and reward those who do good. So we must pay out taxes so that it can do these vital things. But what if they cease to do these things, or indeed do the opposite? As an American I have a point of view on this since my country was created by a violent revolution against the government of that time – the British. Is There Something Special About Freedom? I believe there is and that this verse, and probably others as well, hint at it. “1For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.” (Galatians 5:1, ESV) The word free of 4:31 is the translation of the same Greek word rendered liberty in this verse. The word is dative of advantage. The teaching is that Christ died on the Cross to give us the advantage of having this liberty or freedom. This liberty consists of the Christian’s freedom from the law. Under the law, the person has no more liberty than a child in its minority under a guardian. The child has no freedom of action nor right of self-determination. He must move within a set of rules prescribed by his guardian. He is not old enough to act alone. He must always act under the restrictions of his guardian. So is it with the person under the law. Here were these Galatian Christians, free from the law, having been placed in the family of God as adult sons, indwelt by the Holy Spirit who would enable them to act out in their experience that maturity of Christian life in which they were placed, now putting on the straight-jacket of the law, cramping their experience, stultifying their actions, depriving themselves of the power of the Holy Spirit. They were like adults putting themselves under rules made for children. - Wuest, K. S. (1997). Wuest’s word studies from the Greek New Testament: for the English reader (Vol. 3, p. 136). Grand Rapids: Eerdmans. Christ didn’t set us free to be self-actualized, or happy or to have a good self-image or be rich or healthy or any number of other things. No He set us free for the very sake of freedom! What does that mean? How does this tie into what’s happening around the world and especially Myanmar right now? FAILURE IS THE ADVANTAGE OF FREEDOM!!
56 minutes | 2 months ago
Disciple's Identity Pt. 4: Staying Hungry
Disciple Up # 197 A Disciple’s Identity Pt. 4: Staying Hungry! (Plus the Coup In Burma) By Louie Marsh, 2-3-2021 1) I seek God’s righteousness NOT MY OWN since I have forsaken self. 6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. Matthew 5:6 (ESV) This is the key stone in the arch of the Beatitudes. A Christian mourns his own righteousness and seeks that which only comes from Jesus. If I have His righteousness then no one else’s matters 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: Romans 3:21-22 (ESV) What is righteousness? Righteousness = approved; Rightness = accepted I don’t hunger for BLESSINGSbut for righteousness. We hunger for a righteousness we don’t have. It is not our own. This cannot be part of my character if I’m a moralist. Moralist – very upright, smug, self-righteous Christian – meek and moral, humble and at peace with God and others Moralists can do the first 3 beatitudes but not the 4th. 2) My hunger is huge – I want ALL GOD’S RIGHTEOUSNESS. Accusative case here = whole loaf Genitive = of - this mean perfect righteousness not just partial. 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:21 (ESV) 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 1 Corinthians 1:30 (ESV) 35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. John 6:35 (ESV) We all sense the truth of this passage before we’re taught to ignore it. Article Sited: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/january/covid-19-religion-survey-pew-pandemic-strengthened-faith.html
54 minutes | 3 months ago
50 Most Dangerous Countries to Follow Jesus In 2021
Tales From the Scrypt # 196 50 Most Dangerous Countries to Follow Jesus In 2021 By Louie Marsh, 1-27-2021 Links to articles read from in show: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/january/christian-persecution-2021-countries-open-doors-watch-list.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/christian-persecution-rises-as-people-refused-aid-in-covid-crisis-report Next Week – Stay Hungry, Disciple’s Identity “18“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. 21But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates me hates my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin, but now they have seen and hated both me and my Father. 25But the word that is written in their Law must be fulfilled: ‘They hated me without a cause.’” (John 15:18–25, ESV)
49 minutes | 3 months ago
Dealing with Failure
Disciple Up # 195 Dealing with Failure By Louie Marsh, 1-20-2021 Websites I found helpful for this episode: http://www.bridgetothebible.com/What%20does%20Bible%20say/11%20Coping%20with%20Failure.htm https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/widows-guide-healing/201606/5-ways-cope-failure https://www.biblesprout.com/articles/christian-life/overcome-failure/ “2For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.” (James 3:2, ESV) “16for the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity. 17Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, 18lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him.” (Proverbs 24:16–18, ESV) “14The Lord upholds all who are falling and raises up all who are bowed down.” (Psalm 145:14, ESV) How to respond to failure? Examine the truth. This burns and isn't fun; yet, healing and recovery generally start when the truth is exposed. Lies keep you in the dark and however you try to spin your situation the bottom line is that the truth matters. Too often people attempt to dilute the situation with fancy words or a cute story, but this only delays the pain. And delaying the pain can cause more conflict. For example, if you see your recent financial decision causes a decrease in the weekly household income, be truthful about this. Become transparent with yourself. Transparency is necessary. When mistake occur, there is emphasis on forgiving others, including yourself. However, you can't forgive yourself for that which you are not transparent with. And you can't fully forgive yourself as long as you minimize the error. This doesn't mean that you are overly critical of yourself, but it means being honest. Instead of telling yourself that your business is closing because one manager made poor decisions, be truthful and examine your role in this situation. Ask yourself: Did you look the other way when there was business conflict? Were you overly harsh in meetings so that it made communication difficult? Give yourself permission to feel the pain. After a failure occurs, the immediate mode for many is moving onward because very few desire to be present with pain. This is why when pain exists people often use a substance to dilute the intensity of the hurt. Some people use work to avoid the pain. However, learning to be present with the pain is critical in healing. This is not a sign of weakness. Commit to being open to the bigger lessons. This is when being willing to be a student of life is so important. When you think you are certain of everything and that life has nothing to teach you, then you will repeat your mistakes. Learning a new way to see situations can be the very key to your next success. Learning is a humbling experience. You become aware of all that you didn't know. When you see the deficits in your knowledge base, use this as an opportunity to grow and change. “12Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. 13No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” (1 Corinthians 10:12–13, ESV) “9Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. 10For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up!” (Ecclesiastes 4:9–10, ESV)
55 minutes | 3 months ago
Tradition & Change
Disciple Up #194 Tradition & Change By Louie Marsh, 1-13-2021 Intro. Tradition and me Let’s begin with this… We stay because Anatevka is our home... And how do we keep our balance? That I can tell you in one word... Tradition." (Chorus) Tradition, tradition... tradition (Tevye) "Because of our traditions, we've kept our balance for many, many years. Here in Anatevka we have traditions for everything... how to eat, how to sleep, even, how to wear clothes. For instance, we always keep our heads covered and always wear a little prayer shawl... This shows our constant devotion to God. You may ask, how did this tradition start? I'll tell you - I don't know. But it's a tradition... Because of our traditions, everyone knows who he is and what God expects him to do." By Joseph Stein My history with Tradition: High School and College days, early ministry and gradual changes, probably brought about by finally winning some and making some progress. Great Historical Example: The year was 1492, a mere 37 years after Johannes Gutenberg invented movable type. Already, the new technology of printing books was threatening old ways. The Benedictine abbot Johannes Trithemius published a book entitled In Praise of Scribes, in which he defended the use of pen, ink, and vellum. "Printed books will never be the equivalent of handwritten codices," he argued. Ironically, Trithemius took his book to a printer in Mainz and had it published for wider distribution. Like Trithemius, evangelical Christians have been both media conservationists and media innovators. We love our leather-bound Bibles, yet eagerly use Biblegateway.com's full text-search capabilities to compare 20 English translations. Positive Uses of Tradition in Scripture: “2Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.” (1 Corinthians 11:2, ESV) “6Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.” (2 Thessalonians 3:6, ESV) Negative Uses of Tradition in Scripture: “13thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”” (Mark 7:13, ESV) “2“Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” 3He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ 5But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,” 6he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God.” (Matthew 15:2–6, ESV) “14And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers.” (Galatians 1:14, ESV) “8See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” (Colossians 2:8, ESV) Biggest change in my life – I’m able today to view tradition from a much more balanced and mature and objective position.
55 minutes | 3 months ago
The Disciple's Identity - The Mighty Meek
Disciple Up #193 The Disciple’s Identity Part 3: The Mighty Meek By Louie Marsh, 1-6-2021 INTRO: What’s happening, where from here? Etc. 200th episode coming up! I am on Parlor - @discipleup. Previous Disciple’s Identity – Episodes 185, 188. “5“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” (Matthew 5:5, ESV) Meek Not Weak The meek (οἱ πραεις [hoi praeis]). Wycliff has it “Blessed be mild men.” The ancients used the word for outward conduct and towards men. They did not rank it as a virtue anyhow. It was a mild equanimity that was sometimes negative and sometimes positively kind. But Jesus lifted the word to a nobility never attained before. In fact, the Beatitudes assume a new heart, for the natural man does not find in happiness the qualities mentioned here by Christ. The English word “meek” has largely lost the fine blend of spiritual poise and strength meant by the Master. It is the gentleness of strength. - Real tough guys don’t act tough, they don’t have too. Special Forces guys I know – Marine Raiders! Robertson, A. T. (1933). Word Pictures in the New Testament (Mt 5:5). Nashville, TN: Broadman Press. My strengths are my weaknesses. The Christian word, on the contrary, describes an inward quality, and that as related primarily to God. The equanimity, mildness, kindness, represented by the classical word, are founded in self-control or in natural disposition. The Christian meekness is based on humility, which is not a natural quality but an outgrowth of a renewed nature. To the pagan the word often implied condescension, to the Christian it implies submission. The Christian quality in its manifestation, reveals all that was best in the heathen virtue—mildness, gentleness, equanimity—but these manifestations toward men are emphasized as outgrowths of a spiritual relation to God. - Vincent, M. R. (1887). Word studies in the New Testament (Vol. 1, p. 37). New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons. 1) Meekness is great strength under the total control of another. “29Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.” (Matthew 11:29, ESV) “3Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.” (Numbers 12:3, ESV) All of His great strength - the power of God - was under the control of another - the Father! 2) Meekness is the result of confessing our spiritual poverty, mourning it, and receiving in power God's Kingdom and Comfort. a, Remember the Spirit is the Comforter. 3) The Meek – I RELY on & LIVE THRU God’s Power alone. 5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 (ESV) 11 But the meek shall inherit the land and delight themselves in abundant peace. Psalm 37:11 (ESV) I find God’s Power in the HOLY SPIRIT ALONE. 4 And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me; 5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”…8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:4-5; 8 (ESV) 14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. Luke 4:14 (ESV) Inherit the Earth: By “the earth” (την γην [tēn gēn]) Jesus seems to mean the Land of Promise (Psa. 37:11) though Bruce thinks that it is the whole earth. Can it be the solid earth as opposed to the sea or the air? - Which brings us to the promise of verse 5 - inherit the earth. Meek get it because we'll still be here after all those not in the Kingdom are long gone! Meek have the earth now, because they’re the only ones who really know how to enjoy it. These pre-Christian meanings of the word exhibit two general characteristics: They express outward conduct merely. They contemplate relations to men only. A huge Theme of the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus Ministry and Christianity in general is going below the surface. We are always tempted to use only measurable items -outward, things that can be seen – to gauge growth. Jesus drives straight into the heart. “21“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ 22But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.” (Matthew 5:21–22, ESV) “27“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Keep the Context of heart in mind 29If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.” (Matthew 5:27–30, ESV) “34And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.”” (Matthew 18:34–35, ESV)
50 minutes | 4 months ago
Persecution Disillusion & the End of 2020
Disciple Up #192 Persecution, Disillusion & the End of 2020 By Louie Marsh, 12-30-2020 North Korean Persecution: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/december/north-korea-persecution-christians-human-rights-report-kfi.html Ravi Zacharias’ Sin: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/december/rzim-evidence-confirms-ravi-zacharias-sexual-misconduct.html https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-updates/update-from-rzim-board-allegations-against-ravi-zacharias https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/2020-12-22+LMB+Ltr+to+Special+Cmte.pdf Your Calendar Won’t Save You! Don’t set yourself up for failure by expecting things to magically get better just because we won’t be in 2020 anymore!
42 minutes | 4 months ago
Slaughter of the Innocent
Disciple Up # 191 Slaughter of the Innocent By Louie Marsh, 12-23-2020 Old Episodes About Christmas: Episode 35: Should Disciples Celebrate Christmas? Episode 36: Tales From the Scrypt – the Christmas Story Episode 87: The Non-Pagan Roots of Christmas Episode 88: Christ IS In X-Mas Episode 139: The Real Meaning of Christmas and Other Christmas Stuff Websites Referenced: https://www.christianpost.com/news/1202-nigerian-christians-killed-in-first-6-months-of-2020-ngo-report.html https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/09/christian-victims-in-nigeria-fear-future-attacks/ https://www.christianpost.com/news/nigeria-christian-murdered-fulani-extremists-ambush-attack.html
47 minutes | 4 months ago
False gods & the Church at Odds
Disciple Up # 190 False gods & the Church at Odds By Louie Marsh, 12-16-2020 Intro. What’s coming up for the next two weeks. Link to the Article Read: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/december/idols-worshiping-false-god.html QUOTE: Our hearts still fall into that same satanic groove, quickly moving from confessing “I believe in God” to talking about “the God I believe in,” to making the most dire and pretentious utterance of all: “I could never believe in a God who...” The problem of idolatry “23Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts! 24And see if there be any grievous way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting!” (Psalm 139:23–24, ESV) Grievous way = way of an idol. “21Little children, keep yourselves from idols.” (1 John 5:21, ESV) “5Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.” (Colossians 3:5, ESV) I do not believe that the big problem for the Bible believing church in the United States and around the world even, is legalism. Yes, these idols are problems for sure. But there are far larger ones and more dangerous ones in our current era. As would be expected these idols flow from the culture we live in. You can see them slowly, almost imperceptibly in many cases worming their way into the church and our beliefs and practices. I’m thinking of people who have somehow arrived at the conclusion that God is on their side politically and that whatever changes their party makes, God suddenly has always been behind that even when they themselves believed something different just hours or days earlier! Take for example the huge shift in public opinion when Barak Obama said he had “evolved” on the issue of homosexual marriage. Now it was good where as before the election it had been bad. Immediately this was seized upon as the only right and moral position you could have, even though most of those doing the seizing had held the older positions mere moments before! Many of these people would self-identify as Christians and yet they immediately jumped into this new moral standard with hardly a moments hesitation. (Yes, I’m aware many struggled with this choice, but the vast majority of those who changed did not. And of course all of us who didn’t change our beliefs because of what one politician said didn’t hesitate either.) I don’t want to get off point here which I may already have by bringing up that topic. My point is if you are going to pontificate upon moral issues and you want your opinion to carry some weight you ought to be really seeking to live out what your belief system teaches you to do and not do. If you don’t, then here’s what you can expect from me. In the United States you have the right to speak. However you do not have the right to be listened too. In other words you can’t demand that I, or anyone else, pay attention to what you are saying or give it any weight at all in our lives. If you aren’t active in a church, and at least seeking to find a ministry, and aren’t prayerfully trying to share the Gospel and live out your faith in everything you say and do then say what you will, I won’t be paying much attention to you. After all, why should I? If you don’t know and seek to live out God’s Word then all your professions of spiritual wisdom are simply an expression of hypocrisy. Nothing more and nothing less. That doesn’t mean you might not be right – even a stopped clock is right twice a day. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to be paying much attention to it! There’s a term for this – virtue signaling. Virtue signaling is hypocrisy.
43 minutes | 4 months ago
Disciple Up #189 Celebrity Pastors By Louie Marsh, 12-10-2020 Article Link: https://www.christianitytoday.com/pastors/2020/december-web-exclusives/celebrity-pastor-entitlement-church-culture-humility.html Celebrity Definition: 1: the state of being celebrated : FAME The actress lived a life of celebrity. 2: a famous or celebrated person. Many celebrities attended the awards ceremony. Given that definition the Pope is a celebrity, Billy Graham was the biggest Christian celebrity of the last century, etc.
44 minutes | 4 months ago
A Disciple's Identity Pt. 2 - Mourning
Disciple Up # 188 A Disciple’s Identity Pt. 2 – Mourning By Louie Marsh, 12-2-2020 Intro. First in this series was back in Episode 185. Today we’ll continue with part two. “4“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.” (Matthew 5:4, ESV) I) THE ROCK BOTTOM REALITY A) Blessed. 1, Can be translated "Happy", but that is misleading, since happiness is a subjective emotion dependent on circumstances 2, In the Bible blessing is something a greater does for a lesser, it is an objective reality, and it's given as a gift it's not earned. 3, Perhaps the best way to think of blessed is the translation "Congratulations." a, Jesus is saying that God thinks these things are good, even tho we might disagree! II) Happy Are the Unhappy? 1, This follows on the heels of the 1st Beatitude and can only be understood in light of it. 2, Once we see and confess our spiritual poverty, that isn't the end of it. a, We are also called to mourn over it. b, The extent of sin in our lives should be a cause of great grief to us. 3, In our rush to become "Happy Christians" we usually rush past this and hurt ourselves in several ways... a, We make light of sin, and never take the time to see how deep it's hold on us really is. b, By papering over our weaknesses we set ourselves up for future failure. c, By belittling sin we also never really understand the true extent of God's comfort - His Grace. Those who Mourn – I ADMIT my problem is sin. 4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Matthew 5:4 (ESV) Problems are spiritual and in the Bible spiritual problems are called sin. Sin is my core problem in life and it impacts everything. I must admit it’s sin! Like a 4 year old child who refuses to hold his parents hand to cross the street and instead darts out into traffic. The child dies because he refused to admit he needed his parents to control and guide him. Spiritual mourning is REPENTANCE. 10 For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death. 2 Corinthians 7:10 (ESV) I can go two ways with this: o Focus on SELF – God has forgiven me but I can’t forgive myself. This is self pity o Focus on JESUS – forgiven, lifted up, empowered 4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? Romans 2:4 (ESV) COMFORTED A form of the word Jesus used for the Helper or Comforter in John: “16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.” (John 14:16–17, ESV) So we are comforted not by mere words or emotions, but by the presence and ministry of the Spirit of God Himself.
54 minutes | 5 months ago
Repentance, Works & Salvation
Disciple Up # 187 What About Repentance, Works & Salvation? By Louie Marsh, 11-25-2020 Intro. Happy Thanksgiving! An E-mail comes in: Hello louie this is josh again and I have been struggling to understand this topic that I have came apon concerning ones salvation. The topic is a few questions, are we saved in just believing in christ or Is repentance required for salvation? Roman's 10:9-13. In this passage Paul does not mention repentance as a need for salvation. Is believing enough or is there more we need to do to be saved? What got me thinking about this was this video I watched on this topic, which I would like for you to watch and see if what his is saying is right Mike, holdingfirmly channel on YouTube If You Do Well Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAdqrvjUn0&feature=youtu.be “The Great deception among most Professed Christians is they refuse to recognize that Patient Continuance in Doing Well is the determining factor on whether or not they will enter the Kingdom of God. They think Salvation is a Package deal, that once they 'receive Jesus forgiveness of past, present and future sins is assured and nothing they do or don't do from that point forward has any bearing on the outcome of their inheritance of eternal life. Under the 'not of works', collective reasoning 'doing well' may be a by-product of Faith, but its never a necessity in that 'NOT doing well will disqualify them form the Kingdom.” Mistakes – “he told Cain to do well which he wouldn’t have done if he had a sin nature.” BUT Jesus regularly told people who were fallen to “go and sin not.” Plus later he says the whole structure of the Scriptures is God telling us to do well, but that contradicts which said about Cain. “God expects an increase of His grace.” What does that even mean? How can you or I increase God’s grace since that comes from him and is a part of him? This is based on a misunderstanding of the Old Testament Covenants (yes, there were more than one) and the New Testament covenant of Jesus. He only quotes part of this passage and then concludes that the disciples were able to deal with sin – “21And he said to her, “What do you want?” She said to him, “Say that these two sons of mine are to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.” 22Jesus answered, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am to drink?” They said to him, “We are able.” 23He said to them, “You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”” (Matthew 20:21–23, ESV) - when the passage proves the opposite! Great example of Is eisegesis – forming an opinion and then forcing it upon the text. This man cannot properly interpret Scripture. He either doesn’t know about or ignores one of the primary rules of interpretation of Scripture which is: You interpret the Old Testament in light of the New Testament. Not the other way around, which is what he does. He points out that in the OT you had to work to be saved or in the kingdom, then he quotes Jesus to support this (mangling His words as seen above) and then concludes he’s right. He forgets or ignores that Jesus lived under the Old Covenant and spoke to people who lived under it too! It’s not till He rises from the grave that the New Covenant takes effect. They FAILED when they betrayed Christ! I’m not saying he’s bad or evil or is deliberately trying to mislead. I am saying he’s wrong, woefully wrong and in a way that anyone who’s taken even ONE class on how to interpret the Bible ought to be able to see. Josh’s Questions: Are we saved in just believing in Christ or Is repentance required for salvation? Roman's 10:9-13. In this passage Paul does not mention repentance as a need for salvation. Is believing enough or is there more we need to do to be saved? Does God expect an increase of his grace? Can you be saved in your sin by faith alone? Are there deeds required in faithfulness. Watch out for Proof Texting A proof text is a passage of scripture presented as proof for a theological doctrine, belief, or principle. Proof texting (sometimes "proof-texting" or "proof texting") is the practice of using isolated, out-of-context quotations from a document to establish a proposition in eisegesis (introducing one's own presuppositions, agendas, or biases). Such quotes may not accurately reflect the original intent of the author, and a document quoted in such a manner, when read as a whole, may not support the proposition for which it was cited. The term has currency primarily in theological and exegetical circles. “8But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”” (Romans 10:8–11, ESV) Notice that this doesn’t mention repentance. So is it really necessary? Proof texters would say this proves it’s not important! But they taking the wrong approach. You need to look at all the verses on this subject and see what they say. Note that this verse doesn’t say you have to ask God to forgive your sins either. Is that now something we don’t do? Repentance is one of the things we do, along with believing, confessing and being baptized, that we do when we make Jesus the Lord of our lives. Does God expect an increase of his grace? Honestly and sincerely I don’t know what this means. “20Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,” (Romans 5:20, ESV) “15For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.” (2 Corinthians 4:15, ESV) “6which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth,” (Colossians 1:6, ESV) Can you be saved in your sin by faith alone? I already answered this. Are there deeds required in faithfulness. “14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!” (James 2:14–19, ESV) “26For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.” (James 2:26, ESV) You aren’t saved by works, but your works prove your faith. That’s it and that’s all. This guys “Doing Well” stuff has another fatal flaw in it that I’ve save for now – HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU’VE DONE WELL ENOUGH TO BE SAVED? He gives no standard for us to look too. There’s nothing about that in the Bible. So you are left up on your own never being sure if you are accepted by God or not. You don’t have to have read much of the NT to see that this kind of insecurity isn’t typical of the language used about salvation. If he’s right then no one can ever know they are saved since they cannot know if they done well enough.
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