On the latest episode of Date Night, Jake and Page sit down with Michelle Icard (@michelleicard), a speaker, author and educator who helps kids, parents, and teachers navigate the complicated social world of early adolescence. Her latest book, Fourteen Talks by Age Fourteen guides readers through the fourteen essential conversations parents need to have with their kids before they start high school. Her first book, Middle School Makeover: Improving the Way You and Your Child Experience the Middle School Years, is a primer for the social and emotional changes parents and kids navigate when mid-life meets middle school under one roof. Michelle is a member of the TODAY Show parenting team and NBC News Learn. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, CNN, Time, and People Magazine. Her middle school leadership programs, Athena’s Path & Hero’s Pursuit, have been implemented at schools across the country and she speaks around the globe at schools and parenting events. For past episodes of Date Night with Jake and Page please visit jakeandpage.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Please comment, like and share your favorite episodes. Check out our new book as well: “Holy Crap, We’re Pregnant!” While some people learned how to bake banana bread during the pandemic, we finally finished a book we started 10 years ago. It’s a she said/he said look at pregnancy. Buy it for yourself or someone you know who’s about to have a baby! Thanks for listening!