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Curious Fox

106 Episodes

56 minutes | Feb 23, 2022
103: Colorism, Featurism, Texturism and Sexual Self-Esteem with Dr. Donna Oriowo
This week Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla are curious about colorism, featurism, and texturism and they are joined by Dr. Donna to chat about:What are colorism, texturism, and featurism? Where does it come from? How does it show up day today?How does it impact sexual self-esteem?How does this impact relationships between people of color?What can we do now that we know this?To guide us in our exploration, our guest this week is Dr. Donna Oriowo:Dr. Donna Oriowo (oreo-whoa!) LICSW, CST, is international speaker and certified sex and relationship therapist in the Washington D.C. metro area. The owner of AnnodRight, Dr. Donna specializes in working with Black women on issues related to colorism and texturism and its impacts on mental and sexual health. She is the author of Cocoa Butter & Hair Grease: A Self Love Journey Through Hair and Skin. Dr. Donna is an advocate for sexual freedom, self-love, acceptance, and accomplishment for WoC, especially Black women. She collects inspiring quotes, eats donuts, loves pasta, & stays home--cuz COVID aka Rona. Dr. Oriowo currently serves as co-chair of the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion committee with AASECT, Communications Steering Committee Chair, too. She can be found on Facebook and Instagram @Annodright. OR you can visit her on the interwebs at TheCBHG.com or AnnodRight.comYou can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
57 minutes | Feb 16, 2022
102: Couple Privilege, Hierarchy, and Valentines' Day
This week Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla are curious about couple privilege and hierarchical relationships: What is couple privilege?How does it differ from hierarchy in relationships? How does it affect relationships?How can we design our relationships with privilege and hierarchy in mind?  You can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
64 minutes | Feb 9, 2022
101: Jealousy, Biological Sex Differences, and Mate Selection with Prof David Buss (Interview)
This week Effy and Jacqueline are curious about the purpose of jealousy: What is jealousy? How do you characterize it?What are the evolutionary roots of jealousy? And what purpose does it serve in the emotional portfolio of the human species? What are the distinctions between the biological sexes and jealousy, based on existing research?We are challenging the status quo that jealousy is bad and something that non-monogamous people should not feel. To guide us in our exploration, our guest this week is Prof David BussDavid Buss is a Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. Buss previously taught at Harvard University and the University of Michigan. He is considered the world’s leading scientific expert on strategies of human mating and one of the founders of the field of evolutionary psychology. His books include The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating; Evolutionary Psychology:  The New Science of the Mind; The Dangerous Passion:  Why Jealousy is as Necessary as Love and Sex; The Murderer Next Door:  Why the Mind is Designed to Kill; and Why Women Have Sex (with Cindy Meston). His new book: When Men Behave Badly: The Hidden Roots of Sexual Deception, Harassment, and Assault (2021) uncovers the evolutionary roots of conflict between the sexes. Buss has more than 300 scientific publications. In 2019, he was cited as one of the 50 most influential living psychologists in the world.To find more about Prof David Buss,  go to her website  or follow him on Twitter  @ProfDavidBussYou can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
57 minutes | Feb 2, 2022
100: Friendship, Jealousy, and For the 100th Time with Dr Jaimie Krems
This week Effy and Jacqueline are curious about friendships and jealousy: What defines a friendship? What distinguishes a friendship over other relationships? Are female friendships different from male friendships? Is friendship jealousy different from romantic jealousy? We want to challenge the status quo that romantic relationships are more important than friendships and female friendships are ultimately about rivalry and threat. To guide us in our exploration, our guest this week is Dr. Jaimie Arona Krems: Dr. Jaimie Arona Krems is a social psychologist who uses interdisciplinary theories--from evolutionary biology, animal behavior, behavioral ecology--to explore friendship, those often-understudied friendly and competitive interactions among women, and the stereotypes and prejudices that shape people's social landscapes. She received her Ph.D. from Arizona State University, M.Sc. from the University of Oxford, M.L.A. from the University of Pennsylvania, and her A.B. in Classical and Near Eastern Archaeology from Bryn Mawr College.To find more about Dr. Jaimie Arona Krems,  go to her website (www.kremslab.com) or follow her on @JaimieKremsYou can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
55 minutes | Jan 21, 2022
99: Celebrating Relationships, Break-ups, and Queering Weddings with Ambyr D'Amato
What happens when a traditional ceremony like a wedding honors the queerest of relationships? What are some other ways to celebrate a relationship(s)? What is it like to celebrate a break-up?In this episode, Effy and Jacqueline hang out with queer wedding planner Ambyr D'Amato to challenge the status quo that Weddings are the only types of relationship ceremonies Only traditional relationships have and deserve to celebrate with a ceremony We should only celebrate when we merge into a relationship This week's guest Ambyr D'Amato: Hi, I’m Ambyr. I’m a wedding planner. My mission is to help create a meaningful time for you on your special day and throughout your wedding planning process. What would it feel like to breathe or meditate a little before working on your wedding budget? How can we create a positive experience for you, your family, and all of your guests? What would it feel like to be taken care of, listened to, and coached every step of the way? I want the weddings I do to be inclusive and joyful. I welcome all types of couples especially LGBTQ+, multi-relationship, and multicultural families. I am a queer, intersectional feminist woman. My family is Catholic, Muslim, and Hindu, so in whatever way love has brought you together, I’m sure it’s something I can get on board with.  To find more about Ambyr D'Amato,  go to her website www.weddingsbyambyr.com or follow her on IG @weddingsbyambyr You can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
61 minutes | Jan 14, 2022
98: Magic, Embodiment, and Sexuality with Haylin Belay (Interview)
Is magic and witchcraft for fairy tales? Can magic, witchcraft, and rituals be a way to connect with our bodies and tap into our intuition? Can tarot be used to help us get clarity on the choices we have and the decision we have to make? Effy and Jacqueline hang out with Pleasure Witch Haylin Belay to talk about how magic and tarot can provide a framework for us to get in touch with what we know intuitively and  To find more about Haylin Belay, go to his website www.haylin.co or follow her on Instagram @haylin.co. Curious Fox listeners can enter code CURIOUS at checkout for 15% off a 30-minute Tarot reading. You can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
51 minutes | Jan 7, 2022
97: Foxy Listeners' Questions
How can a couple in an open relationship deal with a new crush or new relationship energy? How can someone deal with the shame/guilt of exploring a non-traditional relationship or sexual path?How can you figure out if someone is a good match for a kink experience?How to make addressing fears fun?How can I tell my child that I/ we are opening up our relationship? Effy and Jacqueline kick off the year by answering questions from our foxy listeners. To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
6 minutes | Dec 25, 2021
Holiday Message and a Well Deserved Rest 2021
Effy, Jacqueline, and the Foxy team are taking a break for the holidays. Listen for their holiday wishes and some recommendations on what to listen to while they are away. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
56 minutes | Dec 17, 2021
96: Human Evolution, Relationships, and Playboy Covers with Dr. Adar Eisenbruch (Interview)
How much does evolutionary wiring impact the types of relationships we seek? Does it really come down to nature vs nurture? How much of whom we are attracted to impacted by our ancestors? Is there such a thing as free will? Effy and Jacqueline get nerdy with evolutionary psychologist Dr. Adar Eisenbruch - whose research centers around cooperation, friendship, and behavioral endocrinology - to talk about how much of our relational choices are contemporary and how much is written deep into our source code over millions of years ago. To find more about Dr. Adar Eisenbruch, go to his website adareisenbruch.com. You can find out more about  Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla by following them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
60 minutes | Dec 10, 2021
95: Relationship Math and the Equal Division of Effort
What does it mean to put effort into relationships? Does one person always show up more than the other? Is relationship maths is as simple as 50+50 makes 100%? Effy and Jacqueline sit down to work out what is the right maths when it comes to the division of effort that goes into a relationship while comparing parental relationship dynamics to adult romantic relationship dynamics.  Not all relationships are created equal. To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
70 minutes | Dec 3, 2021
94: Pegging and Butt Stuff with Lola Jean (Interview)
What is pegging and what is it not? Why does it intrigue many of us? How can we introduce this subversive yet fun play into our sexfolio? Effy and Jacqueline chat with sex educator and pro-domme Lola Jean to get into the whats, hows, and whys of pegging. From brains to bowels they spare no details.  Here are the links promised: Effy’s fave harness: Spareparts Joque HarnessLola’s toy suggestion: Perfect Fit The Bumper Thrust Buffer, BlackPerfect Fit The Bumper Thrust Buffer, ClearPerfectFit Brand The Bumper Add-On Donut Buffer Cushion, BlackPerfectFit Brand The Bumper Add-On Donut Buffer Cushion, ClearLola’s classes: PeggingJackie’s fave bedside table toy that glows: Dame Eva (Go to dameproducts.com/curiousfox for a discount.)To learn more about Lola Jean, follow her on Instagram @lolajeandotcom, or via her website: lolajean.com.To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us on social media for further resources on this topic:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation: fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
48 minutes | Nov 26, 2021
93: Tea & Jam, The Holiday Cluster F**k and Black Friday (Revisited)
When society and cultures pack so much meaning to certain times of the year, what does it look like for those who have multiple relationships? When a simple premise of "spending the holidays with loved ones" seems not so simple, how do avoid putting your relationship(s) on trial?In this throwback episode, Effy and Jackie talk about ways to navigate holidays when you are managing multiple relationships in your life. They share tips on how to schedule, have conversations, and make sure everyone feels loved and cared for. And how to make amends if it all ends up in a cluster f**k.To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us on social media for further resources on this topic:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation: fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
73 minutes | Nov 19, 2021
92: Trauma, Sense of Safety and the Soma with Rida Kıraşı (Interview)
How does our sense of safety affect the way we show up in relationships? What happens in our nervous system when we feel safe vs unsafe? What can we do to promote a sense of safety?Effy and Jackie hang with sound healing therapist, meditation facilitator, and Somatic Experiencing practitioner Rida Kıraşı to talk about how we can heal trauma, cultivate a sense of safety, and learn to regulate our emotions through the soma with the use of sound, breath, meditation and embodiment practices. To learn more about Rida Kıraşı, follow her on Instagram @soundalatherapy, or via her website: soundalatherapy.com.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
67 minutes | Nov 12, 2021
91: Passivity is not the same as Peace
Is it ok to be in a relationship when you are chronically dissatisfied if there are no arguments? Why do people end up staying in relationships that are not making them happy? What do we need to make us pull the plug on lifeless relationships? Effy and Jacqueline jump on the airwaves to challenge the idea that passivity is the same as peace. They discuss what Esther Perel calls stable ambiguity or what Effy calls relationship purgatory where people remain in a holding pattern in relationships where things are undefined, lines are blurred, and desires go unsaid even though they are soaking in dissatisfaction, disharmony, and disconnection. They explore what stable ambiguity looks like, why people choose to remain in purgatory, and what are some of the strategies to break the holding pattern. To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxIf you are feeling unsafe in your relationship and need support, these resources can help:National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-7233 (1-800-799-SAFE)You can text LOVEIS to 22522 or call 1-800-799-7233 (1-800-799-SAFE) or 1-800-787-3224 any day or time to speak to an advocate to discuss your situation and develop a safety plan.National Dating Abuse Hotline: 1-866-331-9474You can text LOVEIS to 22522, call 1-866-331-9474 or 1-866-331-8453 any day or time, or go on thehotline.org to speak to an advocate.National Sexual Assault Hotline: 1-800-656-4673 (1-800-656-HOPE)You can contact the Sexual Assault Hotline any day or time.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
64 minutes | Nov 5, 2021
90: Psychedelics, Therapy and Healing Sexual Trauma with Dee Dee Goldpaugh (Interview)
Can psychedelics be more than a party drug? How are they used in therapy and why are they so effective? What does it take to get into a psychedelic treatment program? Effy and Jackie are joined by the Community Support and Integration Director of the Hudson Valley Psychedelic Society,  psychotherapist, and clinical supervisor Dee Dee Goldpaugh to discuss their work with psychedelics and their effective use in treating and healing trauma psycho-chemically as well as spiritually. To learn more about Dee Dee Goldpaugh, follow them on Instagram @deedeevega, or via their website: deedeegoldpaugh.com. You can find Dee Dee's article on tandfonline.com.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
37 minutes | Oct 29, 2021
89: Halloween Special: Haunted House of Relationships Fears
In this Halloween Special episode, Effy and Jacqueline create a house of horrors made up of their relationship fears. From negative body image to feeling stuck on a relationship escalator, they imagine a terrifying room after a terrifying room of the gruesomest, the creepiest, and the most disturbing contraptions that represent their deepest dreads. To find more about Effy Blue and Jacqueline Misla, follow them at @wearecuriousfoxes, @coacheffyblue, and @jacquelinemisla on Instagram.If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
66 minutes | Oct 22, 2021
88: Creative Take on Talking About Sex with Jennifer Beman (Interview)
Why is talking about sex so hard? How can we use creativity to approach these conversations so we don’t have to navigate through shame, defensiveness, insecurity, and general awkwardness? Can talking about sex creatively result in more interesting sex life?Effy and Jackie sit down with Jennifer Beman to discuss her work, the Graphic Sex Project where Jennifer offers a simple and creative methodology that helps people tell the story of their sexuality. They discuss how this approach cuts through the barriers and encourage a more open dialogue about sex and sexuality as well as personal desires, fantasies, wishes, and interests.  You can learn more about Jennifer Beman and the Graphic Sex Project at graphicsexproject.com to make your own graph and on Instagram @graphicsexproject If you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
68 minutes | Oct 15, 2021
87: Daddy, BDSM, and Gender Fckry with Lucy Sweetkill (Interview)
From the shadows to the red carpet, how did the term Daddy, often used in BDSM, become so popular? What does the Daddy role in power exchange embody? Why is it a hot turn-on for some and abhorrent for others? Effy and Jackie are joined by Professional and Lifestyle Dominatrix, BDSM Educator, Kinky Life Coach, and Purveyor of Mindful Domination Mistress Lucy Sweetkill. In this week's episode, they challenge the notion that ‘Daddy’ is for those with daddy issues. To learn more about Lucy Sweetkill, follow her on Instagram @lucy.sweetkill, or via her website: lucysweetkill.comIf you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
65 minutes | Oct 8, 2021
86: How to Find a Sex Worker with Miss Shayla (Interview)
Can sex work be a viable alternative for those who want to open up an existing relationship because they are looking for a specific sexual experience? How do you safely and ethically connect with a sex worker who’s not trafficked or coerced?  What is the best way to determine if someone is the right person to work with? Effy and Jacqueline are joined by pro-domme, kink educator and owner of Chez-La, Miss Shayla to discuss what sex work is and what it is like to work with a sex worker, the impact of SESTA/FOSTA on the industry and the individuals, and bust some common myths about sex work.  To learn more about Shayla, follow her on Instagram @yesmissshayla, or via her website: yesmissshayla.wordpress.comIf you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
56 minutes | Oct 1, 2021
85: Culture, Identity and Polyamory with Michelle Hy (Interview)
What is intersectional polyamory and how to find meaningful representation in the community? What is the impact of prescribed cultural identity on our relationships? How can we find and connect with online communities for support? Effy and Jacqueline are joined by Michelle Hy of Polyamorous While Asian to discuss how different parts of our identity impact the way we practice non-monogamy, how representation matters within polyamory, and the importance and the risks of online communities.  To learn more about Michelle, follow her on Instagram @polyamorouswhileasian, or via her website: polyamorouswhileasian.comIf you have a question that you would like to explore on the show, reach out to us and we may answer your question on one of our upcoming episodes. Leave us a voicemail at 201-870-0063 or email us at listening@wearecuriousfoxes.comFollow us:fb.com/WeAreCuriousFoxesinstagram.com/wearecuriousfoxesJoin the conversation:fb.com/groups/CuriousFoxSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/wearecuriousfoxes)
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