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This is a sneak peek of our March 2021 True CrimePatreon Exclusive content. You can hear the full episode here. Starting at the $3 level of our Patreon membership! March is Women’s history month! And in that vein, Megan tells the story of the massacre of 14 women engineering students at École Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada in 1989. Another 10 women and 4 men were injured. The murderer had a long-standing hatred of women, and during the massacre told his victims “I hate feminists.” Content Warning: School Shooting, Mass Fatalities, suicide Links Discussed in Episode: Episode 35 (the murder of Jun Lin) - more background on Montreal Episode 27 (Isla Vista Shooting) - conversations on misogyny --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

Last week we saw Abigail be voted off the island (please ignore Danielle, you know her new obsession is Survivor). Abigail is the first deaf contestant to be on the show, we love to see ability diversity. This week Danielle talks about Gallaudet University, a school for the education of the deaf and hard of hearing, located in Washington, D.C. She also details the on-campus murders of freshman students Eric Pluckett and Benjamin Varner. To be more inclusive, we have transcribed this episode using Otter.ai for you! You can see that transcription here. Links Discussed in the Episode: Free ASL online classes with Gallaudet University Promo: Crimes and Closets Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

Megan brings it back to Forsyth County, Georgia this week for this unsolved case. Tamla was a “supermom” of five boys, and a bonus mom to one daughter and the circumstances of her death are quite mysterious. She went to a birthday party slumber party with friends and was found dead outside the next morning. Links discussed in this episode: Behind Her Eyes Trailer (Danielle’s newest show to watch) Always Time for True Crime - Lynne Harper and Steven Truscott Pt 1 (a Danielle recommendation) Crime and Roses Episode 75: The History and Black Expulsion of Forsyth County, a Sundown Town Understanding Chris Harrison and Rachael Kirkconnell Racial Issues & Growing in your Allyship Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Promo: This episode is sponsored by Podcorn! It's an awesome platform for podcasters to connect with brands for potential sponsorships. Check them out here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

It is hometown date week, and our final four women are: Michelle, Bri, Serena P, and Rachael. Michelle’s hometown gave us all the feels, it included her students and dad (who is our dad now). We saw Rachael fall for Matt … LITERALLY. Bri’s mom is a saint and a BADDIE. We learn about Canadian culture and tasty food things from Serena P, before she sends herself home. Sweet reminder, FIRE CHRIS HARRISON! Our POC highlight of the week goes to Michelle Young, of course! Michelle is the 27 year old, elementary school teacher from Edina, Minnesota. She is the Division I basketball player, foodie and is ready to find love and start a family! Links discussed in the episode: Understanding Chris Harrison and Rachael Kirkconnell Racial Issues & Growing in your Allyship Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

On week 5 of The Bachelor, Sarena C. called Katie out for all the drama she seemed to be inserting herself in. Sarena called Katie an arsonist and says she is setting little fires everywhere. Danielle tells the twisted story of another person setting actual fires all over the Seattle, Washington area (where Katie is from). Paul Kenneth Keller was obsessed with setting fires since he was 8 years old. The criminal profile, created by John Douglas, is right on the money. Paul’s fires did take the lives of thee people at the Four Freedoms Retirement Home and he is a possible suspect in many more fire-related deaths. Links discussed in this episode: Forensic Files Season 7 Episode 28 Fire Proof (free on Tubi TV) Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

WOW. It has been a week for the history books in Bachelor Nation. There is so much going on, and honestly have to talk about it. We discuss recent events with friends Ash from Ash Talks Bach and Julia from Bachelor Theory. Megan created a summary guide for those interested, with many links to sources and further listening, watching, or reading. This guide is specifically to help white listeners to grow in their Allyship of the BIPOC community. That guide is available HERE and below, under “Links discussed in the episode.” (Conversation starts at 33:42). Given these recent events, and a call for a boycott of this episode, we did not want Matt’s season’s ratings to be affected and the franchise to use that as an excuse to not have another Black male lead. We also wanted to focus on the amazing women of color contestants that have been cast on this season. With that in mind, we have decided to only talk about the POC in this episode. We see a one on one with Serena P, a group date, and a one on one with Jessenia. Our POC highlight of the week go to BOTH Chelsea and Abigail, who both go home. Other POC going home include: Serena C, Jessinia, and Pieper. Links discussed in the episode: Understanding Chris Harrison and Rachael Kirkconnell Racial Issues & Growing in your Allyship Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

This is a sneak peek of our February 2021 Bachelor Patreon Exclusive content. You can hear the full episode here. Starting at the $3 level of our Patreon membership! In this Patreon exclusive episode, we sit down with Revian Chang from the Bachelor, Season 23 (Colton Underwood) and Bachelor in Paradise, Season 6. We chat with Revian about Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, and what life currently looks like for her. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

Last week, we saw a 1-on-1 date with Rachael Kirkconnell, who now seems to be a front runner. Rachael is from Cumming, Georgia, in Forsyth County. Forsyth County has a long history of racial tensions, including running approximately 1,100 black people out of the county. Megan does a deep dive into the sundown towns, the history of Forsyth County, the 1912 Black Expulsion, and more recent events in the county’s history. CONTENT WARNING: lynching, sexual assault. Links discussed in this episode: Sundown Town Map - database of sundown towns Oprah in Forsyth County - clip of Oprah in Forsyth County (1987). Content Warning: Racial Slurs Books/Media Mentioned in this Episode: -Blood in the Root: A Racial Cleansing in America by Patrick Phillips -Sundown Towns: A Hidden Dimension of American Racism by James Loewen -Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How our Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein -Banished (PBS Documentary) Directed by Marco Williams - check your local listings! --- Promo: This is Gonna Sound Weird Podcast Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

One week 5 of The Bachelor we saw Matt, our first black male lead, go on dates with racist Rachael and Kit. In reflecting on Black History Month, and the “progress” the ABC franchise has made with a POC lead, Danielle covers the case of Loving v. Virginia. Mildred and Richard lived in Virginia and wanted one simple thing, to get married under the law. But that wasn’t possible and they found themselves in jail and pleading guilty to criminal miscegenation laws. Anti-inbreeding laws that brought them all the way to the United States Supreme Court of the United States, defending their right to be lawfully married and paved the way for many to marry those who they love. Links discussed in this episode: Loving trailer on Netflix NPR Loving vs. Virginia audio clips  Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrate Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

There’s honestly so much that happens in this episode. We get the resolution of the Jessenia/MEREDITH 2-on-1 date, a one-on-one date for Katie, a bowling group date, and a one-on-one date for Pieper! We spend a lot of time discussing Katie, her edit, and a confrontation between her and Serena C. We agree that the toxicity in the house needed to be addressed, but we also fully believe that Katie was complicit in a lot of the bad things happening in the house. Also, a cast member from Colton’s season returns and demands to speak with the manager, it’s Karen time! (the contestant formerly known as Heather Martin) Our POC Highlight of the week is Magi! She is honestly better than Matt and this show. Magi is the Ethiopian pharmacist and model. She’s gorgeous and smart and funny. And we will certainly miss her. Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrates the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

On last week’s episode, we saw the theft of a true Queen’s crown. It was a crime in it of itself. In this episode, Megan covers the 2018 heist of Sweden’s crown jewels by thieves who speed away on a boat, just like the movies. Megan apologizes in advance for any mispronunciations of any and all Swedish words.  Also, we go on a tangent about Alexander Skarsgard. If you don't know who is he is (or if you do) go check him out, you'll thank us later.  Promo: This ad is sponsored by Podcorn! It's an awesome platform for podcasters to connect with brands for potential sponsorships. Check them out here. Links discussed in this episode:  Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrate the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. You can hear the full episode of the Rosewood Massacre starting at the $1 level of our Patreon page, link here. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

Danielle is all the way here for Black History Month, so be prepared! This week there is a LOT to cover! We first see Victoria be stripped of her crown, a one on one date with Rachael who gets a pair of Christian Louboutin heels, and then a group date on a farm with some poo. Things heat up with MJ and the house, and we see the start of a 2 on 1 with MJ and Jessinia. Our POC Highlight goes to our lady lawyer friend Lauren Maddox. We have enjoyed getting to know Lauren and her Instagram is worth a follow! Lauren is the 29-year-old from Miami, Florida. She lives for this Christmas season and we hope to see her on our screen very soon. Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrate Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

This is a sneak peek of our February 2021 True Crime Patreon Exclusive content. You can hear the full episode here. Starting at the $1 level of our Patreon membership for the month of February! Happy Black History Month! Remember, Black history is OUR history. Rosewood was a prominent black community in Florida, that was destroyed by a lie, by a white woman, regarding an assault by a black man. The stories of rape, murder, looting, arson, and neglect by elected officials became a hushed secret, not spoken in public, but passed down at dinner tables from survivors to their children. It wasn’t until 1982 that survivors of the massacre spoke up and 1993 until their stories were publicly acknowledged. Content Warning: Lynching, Sexual Assault, Animal Cruelty. Watch the trailer of the movie based on the massacre called Rosewood, directed by the late John Singleton and starring Jon Voight, Ving Rhames, and Don Cheadle. Join us in celebrating Black History Month and participate in the 28 Days of Black History. A virtual exhibition of 28 works that celebrate the Black legacy in the United States, sent to you via email. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

On week 2’s group date, the women wrote their own romance stories of their love story with Matt. Each story was HEAVY on the erotica, I might add. Because of that, Megan covers the story of a murdered author, Helen Bailey. Helen was a young adult author in England who went missing and was discovered in a septic tank, three months later. Her murder may be connected to the seemingly natural death of Diane Stewart. Content Warning: Animal Cruelty (Story starts at: 1:43). We also saw Sarah interrupt time Katie was having with Matt during the group date cocktail party. Sarah was not even on that date. Katie told the women about the intrusion and they confronted Sarah,which Bachelor Nation had a lot to say about it and, In true Bachelor fashion, the words bully and attack were used. Danielle covers the story of Amy Joyner-Francis who was bullied and attacked by fellow high school classmates, which ultimately led to her death. (Story starts at: 29:41). Promo: OK Drugs - CBD gummies! (Use promo code CRIMEANDROSES for 10% off!) Shout out to The Blckchelorettes with Vic and Mi Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

This week we are once again joined by a friend of the pod, Kelcee! She is a fellow lady lawyer from Georgia. Listen to the last time Kelcee joined us on the pod for Episode 43! There is so many things to say and so little time! We see the effects of Sarah leaving on Matt and the women. Five new women arrive, and with it, drama and sex worker shaming (insert HARD eye roll here). Check out the new women’s bios here. We also saw a one on one date with Michelle, a new contestant FROM MINNESOTA (Danielle is overly excited), and we are here for it! Michelle and Matt go on a scavenger hunt and it ends in a hot air balloon ride. We see a second group date and the women are physically fighting each other, in a boxing ring. No shocker here, we hate it, thanks. Our POC Highlight for the week goes to Pieper James. Pieper is the graduate student from Happy Valley, Oregon. She has a bold personality and super sweet face that we want to see more of! Promo: Pink Ivy (Use promo code CRIMEANDROSES for 15% off!) Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

Surprise Shawty! We’re back with more cast bio information, we couldn’t leave you hanging! Matt’s season will have five additional women tonight (all women of color). We did a mini deep dive on who they are, so you can get a feel for them prior to tonight’s episode. The women are: Michelle Young, Kim Li, Brittany Galvin, Ryan Claytor, and Catalia Morales. Links discussed in this episode: Kim Li on David Alvarez's YouTube Channel Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

On week 2 of The Bachelor we saw Queen Victoria’s reign of toxic terror continue. Danielle gives us a definition of toxic behavior. She also tells the story of toxic love and murder and the first murder by cancer that took the lives of Duane Johnson and Chad Shelton in Omaha, Nebraska. Content Warning: Child Victims and Animal Cruelty (Story starts at: 1:23). We also saw Sarah Trott, from San Diego, California, get a 1-on-1 date this week; Sarah talks about her family. Megan covers a story of the McStay family (Joseph Sr., Summer, Gianni, and Joseph Jr.) who lived in San Diego County, and were missing for nearly two and a half years before their remains were found. Content Warning: Child Victims. (Story starts at: 36:58). Promo: OK Drugs - CBD gummies! (Use promo code CRIMEANDROSES for 10% off!) Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

It’s week 3 of Matt James’ season and we are exhausted.  We see a group date that Ashley Iconetti and Chris Harrison host, all to promote Chris’s erotic novel? On this date, the women have to write a romance (er, mainly sex) story for Matt and perform this story in front of everyone.  We also see a 1-on-1 date with Serena P, and they go horseback riding and have a picnic. But unfortunately, most of this episode is focused on drama. Last week the focus was Queen Victoria. This week’s drama is focused on Sarah, who interrupted the group date. Like we said, we’re exhausted.  Our POC highlight of the week goes to Kristin Hopkins! She’s a fellow attorney and practical queen (she wore a shower cap during last week’s date with the paint throwing!) She did not get enough screen time this season, and we hope to see you on a beach soon, Kristin!  Promo: Pink Ivy (Use promo code CRIMEANDROSES for 15% off!) Music: “Grateful” by Kitrano (license obtained via Artlist.io) Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

This is a sneak peek of our January 2021 Bachelor Patreon Exclusive content. You can hear the full episode here. Starting at the $3 level of our Patreon membership! In this Patreon exclusive episode, we sit down with Tahzjuan Hawkins from the Bachelor, Season 23 (Colton Underwood) and Bachelor in Paradise, Season 6. We chat with Tahzjuan about Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, and what life currently looks like for her. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support

This week we cover stories based on Matt James’ premiere episode! Bachelor Matt James is originally from North Carolina, so Megan covers the story of the unsolved murder of Faith Hedgepeth. Faith was an Indigenous college student at the University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill. We also talk about the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls (MMIWG) crisis that both the United States and Canada are currently facing. This case is unsolved, there is a $40,000 reward available for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible for the murder of Faith Hedgepeth. If you have information about this case, call the Chapel Hill Police Department (919) 969-2001, or the N.C. State Bureau of Investigation, (800) 334-3000. (Story starts at 14:27). During the premiere of The Bachelor, we saw Matt James lead his opening speech to the women with a prayer. Bachelor Nation had mixed feelings about the forced religious participation. This week we cover a case that starts with a prayer and ends with murder. Madalyn Murray O'hair is known as the most hated woman in America after she sued Baltimore Public Schools for forcing her son to recite the Lord’s Prayer in school. Madalyn went on to form the Atheists of America, gaining fame and money, money that someone else wanted to take from her and her family. (Story starts at 51:05). We also address the acts of domestic terrorism taken out on the US Capitol building on January 6, 2021. Links discussed in the episode: Episode 20 - Peaches and Cherries Doe (More info on Parabon NanoLabs) Chapel Hill, North Carolina Crime Stoppers (If you have info on Faith Hedgepeth's Murder)  Urban Indian Health Institute Toolkit - More info on MMIWG Crime and Crime Again Podcast (she covers many MMIWG cases!) Promo: 3 Spooked Girls Connect with us at linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/crimeandroses/support