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Not so much an item, but after reading Reni Eddo-Lodge's brilliant 'Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race', we wanted to talk more about the role of race in our lives and our role in discussions about racism. This episode is a little less 'conversation with my sister', a little more 'talking at my sister for long periods of time'. When she does speak however, it's a welcome break.

We talk all things money. How we didn't grow up with much of it. How one of us is now nice and stable and the other (guess who) still doesn't know when things will get easier. We've also started to notice a theme emerging, so in this episode we introduce the *ding ding ding* BITTER BELL!

A lighthearted chat about tweezers and hair removal has a few dark twists but mainly Hajar and Raahil talk about how important eyebrow shape was growing up - and what to do about Hajar's grey moustache. (It's hyperpigmentation!!)

Hajar J. Woodland talks to her older sister Raahil about what a CV means for them - mainly a sense of regret and inadequacy along with horrendous memories of awful interviews. They don't want to complain about their lack of preparation for adult life or their career disappointments, but they do... a lot. Listen along if like us, you share similar regrets and have a lot of blame to hand out over your poor decisions.

Sisters Raahil and Hajar talk about what a tape measure represents to them about weight loss, body positivity and school PE lessons...

Hajar J. Woodland talks to her older sister Raahil about the humble tea towel, and why, growing up as mixed race British Muslims, it represents so much more for them than the washing up.