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This week we talk about some of the crazy things we didn't see coming and how we are adapting. We also share insights on goals, hiring new people, and making the best out of what seemed like a huge flop.

We talk about our not so well-attended workshops, our latest social media campaign, and practical money.

We talk about why it's important to give your product away.

We talk about how wingin it in business is necessary, but at times, it's important to call in the experts. We talk money, software, and all the ways we are building the business by wingin it and being methodical.

In this episode, Kathleen and Caryn talk about new elements of the business and how they got here.