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And The Next Thing You Know
87 minutes | Jul 1, 2021
Dana Morrigan Sings in Her Own Voice
Photo credit: Tristan Crane, from their series Here Portraits.hereportraits.com Today, I talk with Dana Morrigan, wonderful human, wry wit, queer nonbinary transfeminine spoken word artist, writer, performer, and epic karaoke host! It’s about her quest for self-knowledge across many parts of her life: in her cultural affiliations, in her work, in her relationships, in her...
101 minutes | Apr 2, 2021
I Was a Conservative Christian. Now, I’m a Polytheist Clown Nun.
Kurt Granzow came into himself as a gay man at the same time that he found conservative Lutheranism in the San Francisco Bay Area in the early 90s. What came next was a decade of communion and pursuit of ministry within the church, all the while denying his own need to express his true sexuality...
97 minutes | Nov 25, 2020
When I pitched my guest, Shawn, about coming onto the show, my original idea was just talking to her about her career change from being a lawyer to becoming a psychotherapist. She counter-pitched me a story that I couldn’t resist. She said, and I’m paraphrasing, “Let me tell you about that time I drank from...
89 minutes | Sep 25, 2020
A Cruisible of Sorts with Amelia Ray
*I was oblivious to the pun when I said it in the episode! Today’s episode marks the one-year anniversary of the podcast! I posted the very first episode in September, 2019, way back in the Before Times. I feel really proud of And The Next Thing You Know, and I’m so, so grateful for everyone...
111 minutes | Jul 30, 2020
The Real Drug Was Checking Out.
In this episode, I talk to my guest, Cisco, about how being sober isn’t just about not drinking booze. Cisco’s exploration of sobriety is no less than a spiritual quest, and it’s a daily examination of how he can be of better service not just to himself, but to the people in his life. We...
93 minutes | Apr 15, 2020
Julia Serano Likes Scare Quotes
Julia Serano is the author of the nonfiction books Whipping Girl, Excluded and Outspoken. She also just published a work of fiction called 99 Erics: a Kat Cataclysm faux novel. But wait, there’s more! She’s a biologist. She’s an activist. She’s a musician. And as you will be reminded in this conversation, Julia Serano is a “Notable Feminist Theorist.” And I’m...
35 minutes | Mar 27, 2020
Panic in a Grocery Store Parking Lot
In this episode: Me, freaking out in a parking lot. About COVID-19, naturally. Intro, and me reading reflections from other folks. Voice recordings from even more folks. Outro, links, resources. Summary: I can’t imagine business as usual right now at a podcast about how our lives can change on a dime. So I reached out...
105 minutes | Feb 9, 2020
Nancy Au Can’t Sew a Straight Line, or It’s Weird When Death Feels Familiar.
Nancy Au and I talk about growing up, and growing into ourselves, with dead parents. We also discuss her story How To Become Your Own Odyssey, or The Land of Indigestion.
103 minutes | Nov 27, 2019
There’s Blood In My Stool.
Summary This is my conversation with Jenessa Schwartz. She’s 37 years old, and she’s living with stage 4 colon cancer. She’s also my niece, my sister Cyndi’s daughter. Jenessa has two kids under 10. She was the Womb For Hire (her words) for two adorable surrogate kids, which is one of the menschiest things a...
91 minutes | Nov 7, 2019
Making Death Plans, Petting Bunnies
Nannette Mickle’s work life is a surprising and diverse series of next-things. She’s been a candy and cigarette girl, she’s worked in social services providing housing opportunities for unhoused folks. Back in the 90s, she once understudied as Bobby Brady in a notorious live show directed by Jill Soloway. And these days, she sits bedside...
77 minutes | Oct 15, 2019
All At Once, All At Once
Today I’m talking with my guest, Keith, about a time in his life not so long ago, when shit went totally off the rails. He had a psychotic break and a set of experiences that blew up his marriage, his relationship with his kid, his job. Basically, nothing’s the same for him since that experience....
58 minutes | Sep 12, 2019
Paragons of Nothing!
Welcome to the first episode of the podcast! I’m really excited to share these stories with you about how our missteps and disappointments and serendipity lead us smack-dab into our life plans. Today, I’m talking with my guest Becca about creative actualization: how our drives for self expression and creativity get derailed whether by internal...
3 minutes | Sep 3, 2019
And The Next Thing You Know…The Trailer
And The Next Thing You Know is a podcast about how our lives go exactly not as we planned them. No matter how hard we cling to our plans for college and career and relationships and creative goals, it’s actually the disruptions in our lives, the wrenches and the tangents, that throw us in a...
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