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ABA on Tap
65 minutes | Aug 16, 2022
Rethinking Maladaptive Behavior
As ABA professionals, we are often called upon to reduce the occurrence of so-called 'maladaptive' behaviors. Terms like protest, tantrum, elopement or escape are all too common though they don't provide clean description of the behavior or its function. Often times, what we mean is that a child or client spent a certain amount of time crying, for example, and suddenly we run the risk of missing the adaptive value of an instinctive and reflexive behavior. While we don't want our clients to 'cry' extensively, we can't simply cite the emission of such behavior as undesired or lacking value. In this episode, Dan and Mike explore the premise of understanding the full function of such behaviors historically deemed for reduction only. In other words, what might be the communicative value of leaving the designated area or crying? While a solely adult-directed, more traditional approach to ABA intervention might see interference, the idea presented here is more about seeing the shift in motivating operations present in such occurrences of behavior, and re-evaluating our procedures in response. Sit back back, behave and always analyze responsibly.And if you are ready to start your own podcast today, please try Buzzsprout by following the link below.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=721496
59 minutes | Jun 12, 2022
Jointly Attend to Verbal Behavior
Following the two part series on Joint Attention, Dan and Mike extend the discussion to include verbal behavior. Dan takes a lead to expand and make an important distinction between verbal and vocal behavior. Herein comes a strong connection with joint attention given that eye gaze and pointing for example, are both fundamentally sound verbal behaviors. While at times we focus on the vocalization or words, we must pay close attention to all communicative behaviors. Sit back, jointly attend to our vocal behavior and always analyze responsibly.And if you are ready to start your own podcast today, please try Buzzsprout by following the link below.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=721496
61 minutes | Apr 11, 2022
Joint Attention Part II
The brew continues in Joint Attention Part II. Mike and Dan review research on the correlation between joint attention, imitation, language development (verbal/vocal behavior) and play. From this, they focus on a specific research-based method designed to promote joint attention--namely following a point (both proximal and distal) as well as gaze shift, then leading others with point and gaze shift. The idea of joint attention as a constant mode of presentation, along with contingent imitation and linguistic mapping, in creating a dynamic, child-directed, play-based environment is elaborated. This allows for more and more adult-directed instruction as needed toward specific targets and goals, like imitation, while maintaining the most important motivating operation--play. Sip slowly, enjoy a fresh taste from the tap. And always analyze responsibly.And if you are ready to start your own podcast today, please try Buzzsprout by following the link below.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=721496
45 minutes | Apr 11, 2022
Joint Attention Part I
Better late than never, Mike and Dan kick off the 3rd season of ABA on Tap. Thank you all out there for your continued support and listenership. In an effort to advance the 'lab to living room' approach, Mike and Dan give a historical account of their current practices in early intervention. Given that these particular programs take a 'preventative' edge in their purpose and objective, the idea of blending ABA technologies and methodologies with best practices in Early Childhood Education takes the forefront. Young children in these early intervention programs, at least in this case, are not diagnosed with any condition, just identified as 'at-risk'. Without careful and considerate pause from professionals, these children might receive traditional, standard ABA treatment otherwise cultivated and specified for children on the spectrum. This situation is examined closely as the impetus to innovate and progress the idea of ABA and what it looks like in planning, practice and further data collection. Part I will provide a more personal and historical account of the references, experiences and concepts that led to joint attention as an important correlate to imitation, but lacking focused examination or useful implementation as an important aspect of programming thus far.Sit back, relax and always analyze responsibly.And if you are ready to start your own podcast today, please try Buzzsprout by following the link below.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=721496
56 minutes | Dec 20, 2021
Collaborative Treatment, Part II
Mike and Dan discussed collaboration with SLP and OT. Now they explore current and prospective efforts with psychiatric care, use of medication from said psychiatric care, as well as future efforts in primary medical care, an 'off-label' use of ABA, per the current treatment model. ABA provision and related data could easily provide a wealth of information to treatment with medication, addressing side-effect management and possible enhancement of treatment effects, given fidelity to both medication and ABA treatments. So, take your recommended dose of ABA on Tap in this ameliorating episode, preferably with a full glass of water, or any other reasonable libation. And always analyze responsibly.And if you are ready to start your own podcast today, please try Buzzsprout by following the link below.https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=721496
47 minutes | Nov 11, 2021
Collaborative Treatment, Part I
Behavior encompasses a wide range of activity from talking, to moving around to just about anything that makes us animate as human animals. Yet ABA is often quickly boiled down to the 'bad behavior' science, addressing the tantrums, excessive crying, dropping to the ground, self-injurious behavior, etc. This general overview can be so pervasive that we can easily forget the need for other professionals to get a child to sit down and attend, both super important learning behaviors, not misbehaviors, that ABA attends to readily. Hence, there is an active collaboration that should occur across these expansive so-called 'transdisciplinary teams,' whether educationally or medically based, to ensure the child in the middle is getting everyone's best, and in well-choreographed orchestration that supplements and complements, avoiding internal contradictions--that's a tall order. An order that should be easily filled no less. In this episode, Mike and Dan open up the conversation on collaborative treatment, discussing services like SLP (speech/language) and OT (occupational therapy) that are often active for a child along with ABA. They also begin to discuss more mainstream applications of ABA in areas like psychiatry and the prospective and elusive behavioral pediatrics, both topics that will be explored in greater detail in Part II of this episode on collaborative treatment. Sit back, relax, and drink this one in, as a refill awaits you. Cheers--always analyze responsibly.
55 minutes | Jul 26, 2021
"Let's make some visuals" or "that child would benefit from sensory" are two commonly heard phrases in ABA intervention yet they sound strange and overall lack meaning. In this episode, Mike and Dan take time to explore technologies like 'sensory,' 'visuals', social stories, tangible/edible reinforcement and more. These technologies were adapted with good intent, no doubt, but over the years have lost their power and purpose due to user error or the like. Many may be part of outdated premises in ASD or may be suppositions that have been outright debunked and further, corrected in theory, but not yet in practice. So sit back, reflect on our strange habits in ABA, and let's find ways to improve our practice. Always analyze responsibly.
53 minutes | Mar 31, 2021
Is Alfie Kohn's Assessment of ABA Accurate?
Ready to learn more and engage in philosophic doubt, Mike and Dan take on a recent opinion published by the well-known education writer, Alfie Kohn. Kohn lends an eloquent criticism of ABA, pointing to recent meta-analyses that aim to question, if not eliminate, any socially significant effects and benefits of ABA-based interventions, as used with individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder, for example. Kohn's arguments are carefully examined, credited where deserving, and aptly corrected in an effort to preserve their value, while rectifying errors in terms. That said, ABA has a wealth of empirical research and validation highlighting its effectiveness and value. However its implementation, like any other active system, can always benefit from examination, improvement and evolution toward a perpetually stronger ethical integrity. Mike and Dan offer thoughts, insights and discussion to posit ABA, its current strengths and future directions. ABA on Tap is committed to providing you with a clean 'pour' on this philosophy of a science in practice, ABA, and the facts surrounding its active implementation given our daily study and professional experience. We invite Alfie Kohn to join us and discuss his views further on a future episode and we value his prospective effort in listening and exchanging knowledge. His article, as discussed in this episode, can be found at https://www.alfiekohn.org/blogs/autism/. Thank you for tuning in. Please do send us your comments and questions on Facebook. Finally a quick THANK YOU to LANTERN GIRLS for our new outro music. And always analyze responsibly.
44 minutes | Jan 7, 2021
Welcome to Season 2 of ABA on Tap--Happy New Year! Mike and Dan jump right back in where they left off. Following the natural progression and discussion thus far, they happen upon differential reinforcement in order to promote a more multivariate application of ABA than seems the norm. Given the perpetuation of 3-part contingencies, the so-called ABCs of behavior, ABA in practice is often an amalgam of single, linear contingencies as opposed to a dynamic evocation of many behaviors subject to shaping and differential reinforcement in a more naturalized environment. As always, the quest from lab to living room continues. Cheers! And always analyze responsibly.
46 minutes | Jan 7, 2021
Antecedent Based Strategies
The brew continues to mature as Mike and Dan evolve the discussion naturally into the next flavor, antecedent based strategies. Given ABA has been driven largely by a consequence base, the discussion leads into how to prepare for certain behaviors ahead of time, knowing they are actively being emitted. The idea becomes not to preempt or avoid the behavior, but to prepare for it in terms of learning potential toward the next time the same circumstance arises. In this manner, consequence approaches are fortified, given the effort to redirect the behavior prior to emission as well as prepare for the consequence base. Enjoy! And always analyze responsibly.
62 minutes | Dec 3, 2020
After entertaining Chloe's criticisms and doing so seriously, Dan and Mike take a chance to explore ABA clichés--all those little overused misconceptions and stereotypes we hear out in our daily work about why ABA doesn't work. All the while, ABA touts empirical validation. How do we reconcile between what is proven and the possibility of user-error--how does ABA work for many and yet have such a vocal opposition? What are the grievances and which are legitimate? Which grievances are more based on misunderstanding and user-error? Sit back, relax and sip on something good as you imbibe this episode.
49 minutes | Oct 15, 2020
Criticisms of ABA Part II
Dan and Mike take time to reflect further on criticisms of ABA as lent by Chloe Everett in her TedTalk, The Problem with Applied Behavior Analysis (https://youtu.be/pCqEb0aG7tg). More importantly, in part II of this episode, they respond on said criticisms. Lastly, future directions and changes to ABA practice are discussed, from the lab to the living room. Sit back, relax, enjoy and always analyze responsibly.
47 minutes | Oct 9, 2020
Criticisms of ABA
While ABA rightfully touts empirical validation, social validity may not always reflect as strongly. One need not go further than Google to find a plethora of harsh criticism against ABA. Such a vocal critic is found in Chloe Everett and her TEDTalk entitled "The Problem with Applied Behavior Analysis" (https://youtu.be/pCqEb0aG7tg). Chloe is a well-spoken young woman who shares her experience as a 'patient' of ABA intervention given her diagnostic experience. In her talk, Chloe gives honest and useful criticism but also lends a number of misconceptions that warrant discussion, correction and ultimately, resolution. In what promises to be the first of many episodes dedicated to criticisms of ABA, we give Chloe the floor first and explore and explain her concerns. Stay tuned for Part II of episdoe 7, where we further explore her criticism and offer solutions for future practice, in addition to our humble corrections of some of the more egregious claims relayed in her talk.
54 minutes | Jul 26, 2020
ABA on Tap: Q-ABA, Reopening to Never Closed
ABA on Tap excitedly welcomes our first guest ever to the podcast. Kadi Jones is a longtime practitioner and licensed BCBA residing and working in Arizona. Unlike some practitioners in California (e.g., your esteemed hosts Mike and Dan), Kadi has been practicing as usual throughout the entire pandemic thus far, delivering in-home ABA services and adapting essential safety parameters. We have spent some time examining new ideas learned from 'TeleHealth' delivery of ABA services. In this episode, we learn about safe in-home, ABA practice as we continually define risk-management and prevention of contagion during service delivery. Stay home if you can, wear a mask, deliver SDs from at least 6 feet away, and always analyze responsibly.
38 minutes | Jul 6, 2020
ABA on Tap: Lessons from Quarantine
As people prepare to re-enter the workplace, having been 'sheltered-in-place,' ABA professionals, educators and parents alike are compelled to consider the past 4 months. What have we learned? Prior episodes have examined the exciting advancements made for our understanding of 'TeleHealth' as it pertains to ABA, especially as surfaced by quarantine. So as we contemplate re-opening our ABA services here in California--not all providers stopped in-home service--Dan and Mike lend some insight in an effort to optimize ABA services as well as the safety of the environments in which they are delivered. So, sit back in your 6-foot radius (or otherwise wear a face covering), and enjoy a nice pour of ABA on Tap. Always analyze responsibly--cheers!
45 minutes | Apr 27, 2020
Q-ABA: Quarantine Screen Time
Quarantine, or perhaps more accurately stated 'shelter in place,' has certainly put a new spin on our daily lives, to phrase it mildly. We find ourselves taking stock and placing new value on every day stimuli. In this episode, Mike and Dan work to redefine 'screen time' for parents now contending with school content, as well as for professionals considering aspects of stimulus control and socialization on this so-called 'social-media' platform. Where many weeks ago we clamored to limit screen time, we now find ourselves seeking better ways to apply it, if not downright enforce it--who knew?! As always, the discussion provides as many new questions as prospective and absolute answers, but concludes with some practical concepts and suggestions that are easy to consume. Stay safe, stay well and always analyze responsibly. Cheers!*ABA on Tap is recorded live in front of a virtual studio audience. **Please bear with us during shelter in place as we record this audio over a video conference--and sometimes you can hear it ; )
41 minutes | Apr 27, 2020
Q-ABA: Routinely Building Schedules
After several weeks of working with parents and clients alike, all under quarantine, Dan and Mike offer points of relief for listeners learning to balance several roles under one roof. Specifically, today's pour is rich with redefining ingredients in our day to day routines and schedules. In order to soon arrive at a smooth and successful 'finish' to the day, parents are balancing professional duties on top of adapting to school at home. The episode offers various talking points and suggestions toward actively constructing and expanding adaptive routines such that the idea of a schedule can be achieved.
45 minutes | Apr 2, 2020
Q-ABA: Practicing Under Quarantine
In only their second published episode, Mike Rubio and Daniel Lowery are compelled to deal with quarantine and the current COVID-19 circumstance as they keep their distance and connect remotely. They posit many topics for discussion and consideration, covering new 'levels of service' in ABA during this era of social distancing, as well as suggesting many themes for future dialogue. Dan and Mike invite you to post your questions and comments. This is but the beginning of many discussions on what promises to be an important shift in ABA services. Though temporary, the current 'shelter in place' order across many states is creating a motivating operation for pros and parents alike, to redefine ABA practice and implementation. Welcome to Q-ABA. Let's make good use of the time and learn something together. Cheers! Always analyze responsibly...and for now, do so at least 6-feet apart. Be well and stay safe out there.
32 minutes | Feb 18, 2020
More than 'MORE'
Mike and Dan take you back to the beginning of ABA on Tap to share a studio out-take not published at the time of production. After some review, they have decided the information in this previously unreleased episode needs to be heard. In "More than MORE", a thorough discussion regarding the use of some 'starter' verbal behaviors like signing 'more', is presented. While helpful and exciting, such simple signs can often be overused and become overgeneralized, hindering progress in vocal and verbal behavior instead of promoting it. As always your comments and questions are encouraged. Please find us on Facebook and connect. Always analyze responsibly--cheers!*Please note that this episode does not show as most recent but is listed by date of upload (not date of publication, 11-10-2021).
68 minutes | Feb 15, 2020
ABA on Tap -- Why 40 Hours? (Inaugural Episode)
Behavior Analysts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery kick off their podcast adventure by pouring a user-friendly, unfiltered, smooth and easy to consume discussion on Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). In this inaugural episode, Mike and Dan sort through the idea of 40-hours a week of in-home ABA treatment--a common pairing on the ABA treatment list for individuals (usually younger children) diagnosed with ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). Pedagogy, professionalism and parenting alike are invited to toast and learn with Mike and Dan. Cheers! And remember, always analyze responsibly.
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